Official Country Rankdown Thread

[Cody Wants Out...]

The fire at midnight burns out at daybreak...

You have a daughter, and her eyes are Wilson green...

[taylor is terrified]

This wouldn't happen any time relatively soon, but is anyone interested in Maren Morris' second album GIRL being ranked? I checked the record book and I see that zaclord did the first one, but he's been gone for awhile now and I didn't see a finished placement for the second one. If interest is high and I were to host, I would probably open for submissions in March, which will be a year after GIRL's release.

[bboat11]

Dec 23, 2019 9:48:50 GMT -5 taylor is terrified said:

This wouldn't happen any time relatively soon, but is anyone interested in Maren Morris' second album GIRL being ranked? I checked the record book and I see that zaclord did the first one, but he's been gone for awhile now and I didn't see a finished placement for the second one. If interest is high and I were to host, I would probably open for submissions in March, which will be a year after GIRL's release.

Yeah, somebody definitely still needs to do that one! And nobody has claimed it yet :)

[taylor is terrified]

Dec 23, 2019 11:03:01 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

Dec 23, 2019 9:48:50 GMT -5 taylor is terrified said:

This wouldn't happen any time relatively soon, but is anyone interested in Maren Morris' second album GIRL being ranked? I checked the record book and I see that zaclord did the first one, but he's been gone for awhile now and I didn't see a finished placement for the second one. If interest is high and I were to host, I would probably open for submissions in March, which will be a year after GIRL's release.

Yeah, somebody definitely still needs to do that one! And nobody has claimed it yet

Consider it claimed! (by me of course lol)  :)

[taylor is terrified]

The Jake Owen Album Series is a go:

pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/190688/jake-owen-album-series-american

Wanted to get this one opened up before February became too clogged up

[tim]

I’m going to begin work on the Alan Jackson album series just as soon as I get back home to Texas and I know this has been something that is long overdue. While I know there has been some interest in a singles rankdown for him I think it’s long past time to start jumping into his discography, so as a longtime fan of Alan’s I’m ready to jump into it. Look for the album series to launch within the next couple of weeks!

[Cody Wants Out...]

Here's another thing that's long overdue... I'm aiming to launch the Tanya Tucker singles rankdown sometime in the middle of January, or maybe I should wait until February as I didn't anticipate this avalanche of album rankdowns coming in.

I'm also officially going to give the Alan Jackson singles rankdown to tim; I apologize for not announcing this any sooner.

[taylor is terrified]

Dec 28, 2019 13:34:05 GMT -5 Cody Wants Out... said:

Here's another thing that's long overdue... I'm aiming to launch the Tanya Tucker singles rankdown sometime in the middle of January, or maybe I should wait until February as I didn't anticipate this avalanche of album rankdowns coming in.

I'm also officially going to give the Alan Jackson singles rankdown to tim ; I apologize for not announcing this any sooner.

Oh I'm definitely down for Tanya to get her time in the spotlight! Whenever it opens, I'll be sure to start on my submission for it ASAP.

[bboat11]

Hello friends! Since Zack abandoned us with an un-hosted Kacey Musgraves Extras rankdown, we need to decide what to do with it. I have opened a poll to help us decide what to do democratically.

Should we re-start it and try again?
Should we forget it ever happened?
Should we do something else?

Please feel free to vote and/or jump in with input

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Tagging those on the country tag list:

Adrian C. 🍓 @annebury austin bboat11 bigfan101 taylor is terrified castleoblivion26 cedric HeyHeyHey g8erboi tim LBTrocks @doinktheclown Crimsonio Fancy fearlessarrow .indulgecountry Leo ✔ born Kanenrá:ke The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 kimberly Mylo13 💜 RobbyFlorida Au$tin toomuchboy @xfer  George Strait Junkie collinkottke austin Troublemaker sabre14  Darkest Hour ClevelandRox  ChicaCherry콜라

[bboat11]

Alright, the poll has been open all weekend, and the majority clearly favors deleting Zack's Kacey Musgraves Extras rankdown from the queue and moving on without it. I feel okay with that, since this is a rankdown that doesn't really have a "purpose", at least not in the same sense as a regular album rankdown or a rankdown of an artist's singles. It was a rankdown that was special to Zack (although obviously not enough for him to actually do his job and host it, but I digress ), but doesn't really have the same connection for anybody else. It is a random assortment of leftovers, and tbh nobody seems super enthused about it. The handful of people I have talked to in the last few months about taking it over have all fallen through. On top of that, perhaps the most compelling reason is that the list is just plain outdated now.

So, this is where we say sayonara to Zack's Kacey Musgraves Extras rankdown.



Obviously if anybody ever feels compelled to launch their own Kacey Musgraves rankdown in the future focusing on her collaborations and non-album songs, they would be more than welcome to do so! It just seems that at this point in time it is neither wanted or needed. Especially since the one who had the creative vision for this particular list is no longer here to present it the way he would have wanted to.

Thanks for voting, y'all! Don't forget to participate in some of these open rankdowns There's loooooots of album series right now that are super fun and easy to jump into!!!

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Adrian C. 🍓 @annebury austin bboat11 bigfan101 taylor is terrified castleoblivion26 cedric HeyHeyHey g8erboi tim LBTrocks @doinktheclown Crimsonio Fancy fearlessarrow .indulgecountry Leo ✔ born Kanenrá:ke The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 kimberly Mylo13 💜 RobbyFlorida Au$tin toomuchboy @xfer  George Strait Junkie collinkottke austin Troublemaker sabre14  Darkest Hour ClevelandRox  ChicaCherry콜라  SHOOTER

[bboat11]

Next I'm going to start a poll to help us determine what to do with the LeAnn Rimes rankdown...

[Cody Wants Out...]

Who'd be interested in another personal rankdown from yours truly?

I would've re-entered already, but there's a lot of active RDs open, so I think I'll wait until it's less crowded...

[bboat11]

Sept 25, 2019 18:26:54 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

tim .indulgecountry sabre14 someguy castleoblivion26 LBTrocks Kanenrá:ke g8erboi zaclord 🌈 fearlessarrow Cody Wants Out... and anybody else who is interested in hosting country rankdowns.

I have observed a problematic trend developing for quite some time, but up until now I have not done anything about it in hopes that it would sort itself out. However, as time goes by, it is becoming clear that the solution is not going to happen organically. The problem is that people are claiming rankdowns and then not hosting them. This is a major problem because there are rankdowns on the queue that people are actually really excited about, but they are not happening, and nobody is able to do anything about it. Therefore, I am going to be making a couple rules for the queue.

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Rule 1) From this point forward, if you wish to place a rankdown on the queue, you need to have plans of actually opening that rankdown within 6 months of the date you claim it. For the purposes of this rule, "opening" the rankdown will be defined as "opening the thread, posting the song list, and allowing people to start submitting". It does not mean that reveals must have begun. That's what the next rule is for. If you do not open the rankdown for submissions within that time frame, that rankdown will go up for grabs and another host can claim it. If you know that you will not be able to host it within 6 months, please wait until you have time to do so before you try to claim it.

Some exceptions to that rule would be something like how sabre14 has the remaining years in the early-10s on hold. I feel that he has been making genuine progress towards getting them done, and he also has been doing a good job while hosting them, so he should be allowed to plan to continue with the series.



Rule 2) All hosts will now have a maximum window of 3 months between when the rankdown gets opened, and when reveals actually start. (I will be loose with this rule, however. If the host is still very obviously planning to start it, but has to extend it a little longer in order to maximize participation, that is perfectly fine. This rule is mostly to establish a precedent for when we will define a rankdown to be "abandoned" so that another host can take over.)

We have two rankdowns that I would define as "abandoned" right now. Starting immediately both the Kacey Musgraves Extras rankdown and the Rascal Flatts rankdown are both up for grabs. The Gretchen Peters rankdown is close, but I will cut castleoblivion26 some slack because he is still very much an active host and I trust that he will have a plan to get it done as soon as he has finished Suzy Bogguss.



Rule 3) If you are hosting a current rankdown, you have 1 month from the date of the first reveal to finish all of the reveals. That might seem a little harsh, but I think it is very reasonable. If you cannot host a large rankdown in under a month, you should not be hosting a large rankdown. And if you are spending longer than a month on a smaller rankdown, you should not be hosting rankdowns at all...

If a host spends longer than a month revealing their current rankdown, ALL of their claimed rankdowns on the queue will go up for grabs.

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Notice that these rules are more time-based rather than quantity-based. If you are a fairly quick host who reserves a lot of rankdowns but actually hosts them in a timely manner, by all means keep claiming a lot of rankdowns!

These rules are effective immediately. Time limits will start today regardless of when the rankdown was opened. If you have any rankdowns on the queue that you will not be able to start within 6 months, please let me know and I can remove them or make them available for other people. If you have any open rankdowns, please start reveals within 3 months of today at the latest. And if you are currently revealing a rankdown, please finish it within 1 month of today if you want to avoid Rule 3.

Please note that these rules are not meant to infringe on how most of you host your rankdowns. Most people do a great job, and the rules are designed such that you can continue doing a great job without feeling hampered But those who fall out of compliance with these rules have been making the entire rankdown experience less pleasant for participants for a long time, and the goal is to prevent that from continuing.

Thank you all

tim .indulgecountry sabre14 someguy castleoblivion26 LBTrocks Kanenrá:ke g8erboi fearlessarrow Cody Wants Out... HeyHeyHey and anybody else who is interested in hosting country rankdowns.

I am amending the 3rd rule. It appears there is a loophole where there is no actual course of action for if a host abandons a rankdown in the middle of reveals. This should close that.

Added Clarity For Rule 3) If there is ever any span of time where a rankdown goes an entire month with no reveals, it will be declared abandoned. At that point the host either needs to prioritize their time and finish it immediately, or the rankdown will be given to somebody else. To break it down further: after a rankdown has been declared "abandoned", a host has one week to start making progress again before the rankdown is given to somebody else. If they resume reveals within that week, the rankdown will be considered active again, and be held to the regular rules. If they fail to resume reveals after one week, the rankdown will be given to somebody else.

What to do if the host successfully resumes revealing, but then disappears again: If a rankdown that had previously been declared abandoned goes 2 weeks without a reveal, the rankdown will immediately be declared abandoned for good, without question, and given to somebody else. The original host will no longer have the option of finishing, and tbh it will be strongly recommended that they stop hosting rankdowns for good....

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Thank you all! Like I said last time, most people who host country rankdowns do a great job! If you do any sort of decent job hosting whatsoever, you should be able to keep hosting your rankdowns without having your toes stepped on. However, if you are continuously out of compliance with these rules, you are consistently ruining peoples' rankdown experience, and you probably have been for a very long time.


tl;dr: Host your damn rankdowns, or stop hosting rankdowns.

[tim]

Coming your way March 1st.

[taylor is terrified]

COMING SOON

[taylor is terrified]

Feb 2, 2020 16:37:40 GMT -5 taylor is terrified said:

COMING SOON

Apologies for the double post but...

NOW OPEN

pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/191668/maren-morris-girl-album-march

[bboat11]

I hate to do this, but...

Kanenrá:ke , as of right now, the LeAnn Rimes Rankdown has officially been declared 'abandoned', since there has not been any host activity in well over 4 1/2 months. Additionally, HeyHeyHey as of right now, the Sam Hunt rankdown has also been declared 'abandoned' because it has been more than a month since there was any activity.

If progress is not continued within 1 week of this post, both of these rankdowns will be taken off the queue and your claim to them will be removed. At that point other hosts will be allowed to claim those rankdowns if they would like to start their own versions.

As rankdown hosts, it is important to remember that when people submit lists for a rankdown, they care about the results most right when the rankdown starts. That interest dwindles exponentially as time passes. If you let so much time pass that nobody cares anymore, you are literally doing a disservice to yourself and whatever grand visions you had in mind for your rankdown, as well as whichever artist you are trying to honor. And of course it goes without saying that all the people who invested time and effort into listening to the playlists deserve to see the fruits of their labors. HeyHeyHey I know this is your first rankdown, and I know you are trying to figure out how it all works. As I have said before, if there is anything else I can do to help, please let me know! We all want to see you have a successful rankdown. Kanenrá:ke , you are in a little different boat as somebody with a bit of experience, but if you need any help, there are any number of people who support you that are always just a click away. Email the spreadsheet to someone, take on a co-host, do one reveal per week if you have to... ANYTHING would be better than nothing. I know several people who would be eager to help, if you just ask!

[castleoblivion26]

hey everyone,

I haven't done an update in a while on my plans. I had originally planned to have the Brothers Osborne rankdown due this month but haven't done that yet. Within the next week I plan to open the next set of Patty Loveless albums, Pam Tillis albums and the Brothers Osborne rankdowns. I am planning on doing the 2000 Country rankdown this summer. I may open that soon in order to give everyone time to do it.

The Wilkinsons series I will be doing after I finish some of the current series (Patty, Pam, Lee Ann). I am also gonna open the next Journey and Songwriter series rankdowns in the near future. I also plan to do more Kip Moore rankdowns as well as the latest albums from Brett Young and Carly Pearce. Carly's came out today so that is not on the immediate radar as I'd like to give it more time before we do that album.

also HeyHeyHey if you want any help with the Sam Hunt rankdown please let me know because I'd like to see that one finished. Just got tickets to see him this summer with Kip Moore and Travis Denning (2nd row tickets also!)

Anyway there are a rough sketch of my plans (that never go the way I plan to do them lol)

[bboat11]

castleoblivion26 out of curiosity do you think you want to do one big Brothers Osborne rd, or both of their albums separately?

[castleoblivion26]

Feb 14, 2020 19:58:59 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

castleoblivion26 out of curiosity do you think you want to do one big Brothers Osborne rd, or both of their albums separately?

I was originally gonna do them both together but I think I'm just gonna do them separately though I may add some of their extra songs with their albums instead of doing an extras rankdown. I'll figure it out this coming week

[bboat11]

Feb 14, 2020 20:09:12 GMT -5 castleoblivion26 said:

Feb 14, 2020 19:58:59 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

castleoblivion26 out of curiosity do you think you want to do one big Brothers Osborne rd, or both of their albums separately?

I was originally gonna do them both together but I think I'm just gonna do them separately though I may add some of their extra songs with their albums instead of doing an extras rankdown. I'll figure it out this coming week

Cool! I would personally prefer to separate the albums. I have come to regret pretty much every rankdown that has ever combined albums, unless they were thematic like a Christmas rankdown... Lol

Edit: You can do whatever you'd like, of course. I'm just giving my two cents ;)

[fearlessarrow]

bboat11 Do the country RD rules apply for the Taylor Swift singles redux rankdown that I have planned once the Lover era is over? Idk if it will come in the next 6 months so I was just wondering (I might also want to host a Lover redux RD since the first one happened right after its release - everyone's opinions probably would have changed on certain songs like "False God" but that's outside of country territory). 

Also could you perhaps under a spoiler put the rules in the first post of this thread? I think having it in a place that's easier to get to might be beneficial :)

[.indulgecountry]

castleoblivion26 If you're going to add extra songs that weren't included on either of their studio albums, I'd prefer we just combine the albums + extra songs into one larger rankdown personally. I think it would be much more odd to rank an album with a random unrelated song or two thrown in the mix than to just do a larger rankdown branded as all of their recorded material to date.

[castleoblivion26]

bboat11 .indulgecountry I think I'll just do a mini series, though I may do both albums plus an extras rankdown all at once and reveal one at a time.

[bboat11]

Feb 14, 2020 20:37:44 GMT -5 fearlessarrow said:

bboat11 Do the country RD rules apply for the Taylor Swift singles redux rankdown that I have planned once the Lover era is over? Idk if it will come in the next 6 months so I was just wondering (I might also want to host a Lover redux RD since the first one happened right after its release - everyone's opinions probably would have changed on certain songs like "False God" but that's outside of country territory). 

Also could you perhaps under a spoiler put the rules in the first post of this thread? I think having it in a place that's easier to get to might be beneficial

Yeah, I'll definitely count a Taylor singles redo as part of the country rankdowns! She's only half country, and we might not see a country winner (I'd be shocked if it doesn't come down to either "Blank Space" or "Style", like last time), but I'd say she's country enough to include an overall singles rankdown in the country queue and archive. Just like I have the original singles rankdown in the archive now.

When there is a Lover redo, I will not put that in the country queue or archive, since that is very specifically not country. Which I'm sure you already assumed. Lol

Regarding the rules, the country rules would apply, but honestly they can be kinda flexible. Like, there is a pretty solid understanding that you are the one doing the Taylor stuff, whether that comes 6 months from now or even a little longer. If I put it on the queue now, there is an implicit understanding that you are planning to host it as soon as her current era is done, and I highly doubt any of the country hosts would get butthurt and try to take it from you even if it ends up taking like 9 months... Lol. The whole 6 month rule basically exists just to prevent people from claiming rankdowns and never getting around to hosting them, and that is clearly not your intent here.

And that's a great idea, I'll find the rules and put them in the first post! I've actually been meaning to do that for awhile :)

[bboat11]

fearlessarrow also, have you thought about doing an album tracks rankdown for Taylor??! I think enough of her album tracks are acclaimed enough to where there could be some major interest in that!

You could even do two album tracks rankdowns at the same time if you wanted to; one for her country albums, and one for her pop albums. If you were to do the top 5 highest finishers like we did for Jo Dee and Martina, you would have two rankdowns where one is like 20 songs and the other is like 15, which sounds perfect to me! Or you could do it some other way if you don't think that is enough songs, or if you'd rather hand-select songs, etc. Just an idea I had. I get really excited at the thought of "State Of Grace", "All Too Well", and "Enchanted" duking it out though

[fearlessarrow]

Feb 14, 2020 21:08:37 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

fearlessarrow also, have you thought about doing an album tracks rankdown for Taylor??! I think enough of her album tracks are acclaimed enough to where there could be some major interest in that!

You could even do two album tracks rankdowns at the same time if you wanted to; one for her country albums, and one for her pop albums. If you were to do the top 5 highest finishers like we did for Jo Dee and Martina, you would have two rankdowns where one is like 20 songs and the other is like 15, which sounds perfect to me! Or you could do it some other way if you don't think that is enough songs, or if you'd rather hand-select songs, etc. Just an idea I had. I get really excited at the thought of "State Of Grace", "All Too Well", and "Enchanted" duking it out though

Thanks for bringing that up! I've actually been thinking about it too - I originally had one big rankdown in mind (which will be 35 tracks) but I'm open to suggestions! The thought of "All Too Well", "Enchanted", "State of Grace" etc. duking it out excites me too!

Here's the potential tracklist for that RD then...

Potential Tracklist:
Cold As You
Mary's Song (Oh My My)
The Outside
A Place in This World
I'm Only Me When I'm With You
Forever & Always
You're Not Sorry
Breathe
Hey Stephen
Forever & Always (Piano Version) [unless we want to combine the versions into one song and have "The Way I Loved You" here instead
Enchanted
Haunted
Dear John
Speak Now
Long Live [wait a second... this was a Brazilian single... then "Better Than Revenge" will take its spot? Damn "Last Kiss" wouldn't make it either way :'( ]
All Too Well
State of Grace
Holy Ground
Starlight
Treacherous
Clean
All You Had To Do Was Stay
I Know Places
How You Get the Girl
I Wish You Would
Getaway Car [well this was a radio single in Australia and New Zealand so... I guess "New Year's Day" will fill that spot instead?]
I Did Something Bad
Call It What You Want
Don't Blame Me
Dancing With Our Hands Tied

5 from the Lover redux (or pull from the original Lover RD? Also there might be more singles from Lover so TBA)

However, if we decide to count promotional singles, "You're Not Sorry", "Speak Now", "State of Grace", "Call It What You Want" and "The Archer" would be excluded from "album tracks" so that's another call I'll have to make but I'm leaning towards just pushing the promo singles to album tracks.

[bboat11]

What a fantastic list that is!!!! I would defs only include one version of "Forever & Always". People could just rank based on whichever version is their favorite.

And keep those promotional singles on the album tracks list. They ain't real singles! Lol. But really it's up to whether you put them in the singles rankdown redo or not. Personally I would just stick with her actual radio singles for that rankdown, and keep the promotional stuff as album tracks because they never actually got a real push to radio. But as long as they're included in at least one of them, that is what matters.

And I would be fine with one big country/pop album tracks rankdown! My only worry is that staunch country fans may not participate because it is too much pop, and pop fans may hesitate because the list is more than half country... And of course, we would HATE to see songs like "All Too Well" and "Enchanted" done dirty just because they're country... But then again, those who would participate more than likely have an appreciation for both aspects of her career, and theoretically if a mixed singles rankdown can be successful than why not a mixed album tracks rankdown? So I'm good either way, depending on what you decide or what other people prefer :)

[fearlessarrow]

Feb 14, 2020 21:36:40 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

What a fantastic list that is!!!! I would defs only include one version of "Forever & Always". People could just rank based on whichever version is their favorite.

And keep those promotional singles on the album tracks list. They ain't real singles! Lol. But really it's up to whether you put them in the singles rankdown redo or not. Personally I would just stick with her actual radio singles for that rankdown, and keep the promotional stuff as album tracks because they never actually got a real push to radio. But as long as they're included in at least one of them, that is what matters.

And I would be fine with one big country/pop album tracks rankdown! My only worry is that staunch country fans may not participate because it is too much pop, and pop fans may hesitate because the list is more than half country... And of course, we would HATE to see songs like "All Too Well" and "Enchanted" done dirty just because they're country... But then again, those who would participate more than likely have an appreciation for both aspects of her career, and theoretically if a mixed singles rankdown can be successful than why not a mixed album tracks rankdown? So I'm good either way, depending on what you decide or what other people prefer

The singles RD would come first so I think what I'll do is put a poll up with the thread asking which one people prefer (split album track RDs or one big album track RD)!

[bboat11]

Feb 14, 2020 21:42:09 GMT -5 fearlessarrow said:

Feb 14, 2020 21:36:40 GMT -5 bboat11 said:

What a fantastic list that is!!!! I would defs only include one version of "Forever & Always". People could just rank based on whichever version is their favorite.

And keep those promotional singles on the album tracks list. They ain't real singles! Lol. But really it's up to whether you put them in the singles rankdown redo or not. Personally I would just stick with her actual radio singles for that rankdown, and keep the promotional stuff as album tracks because they never actually got a real push to radio. But as long as they're included in at least one of them, that is what matters.

And I would be fine with one big country/pop album tracks rankdown! My only worry is that staunch country fans may not participate because it is too much pop, and pop fans may hesitate because the list is more than half country... And of course, we would HATE to see songs like "All Too Well" and "Enchanted" done dirty just because they're country... But then again, those who would participate more than likely have an appreciation for both aspects of her career, and theoretically if a mixed singles rankdown can be successful than why not a mixed album tracks rankdown? So I'm good either way, depending on what you decide or what other people prefer

The singles RD would come first so I think what I'll do is put a poll up with the thread asking which one people prefer (split album track RDs or one big album track RD)!

Crox just sent me a pm asking why we wouldn't just include ALL her album tracks. I suppose that is an option too 😂 I don't know why he's scared to post in this thread tho...