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Post by Caviar on Aug 22, 2017 20:19:35 GMT -5
Ridiculous streaming makes up 50% of the points. Since it's the dominate format it needs to be lowered and sales raised! Pop divas must survive or pop music will collapse!
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 22, 2017 21:07:37 GMT -5
I must be the only person to not think Taylor will be debut at number one Well, it likely won't debut #1 because it will have a few days of airplay that could lead to a low chart debut. The question is more if it then moves to #1 the next chart week when downloads and streams kick in. |
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Post by fhas on Aug 22, 2017 21:26:45 GMT -5
Ridiculous streaming makes up 50% of the points. Since it's the dominate format it needs to be lowered and sales raised! Pop divas must survive or pop music will collapse! It's not ridiculous, it's fair. Streaming is much bigger than sales. It seems like pop fans are still in 2011. |
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 22, 2017 21:29:31 GMT -5
The sales weight has already been increased, twice. It's a pointless solution when Streaming continues to increase.
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Post by forg on Aug 22, 2017 21:35:29 GMT -5
Go for Week #16 Despacito! And hopefully we have nail bitter if Week #17 is happening or not
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 21:40:53 GMT -5
It doesn't matter since the only female at top 10 on sales is Demi (cuz of a discount), what a conspiracy - yeah I know Bonnie still #1, but I'll ignore it
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Post by jarhys on Aug 22, 2017 22:07:23 GMT -5
Mama is #1 and Symphony is #3 on Bubbling Under chart. Will they enter the chart eventually?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 22:13:36 GMT -5
Symphony must be the biggest hit that was never a Hot 100 hit - not including the airplay only songs from 90s
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Post by forg on Aug 22, 2017 22:15:15 GMT -5
Symphony has been on Bubbling Under for months! They even discounted it on iTunes but nothing
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Post by Gary on Aug 22, 2017 22:17:56 GMT -5
Symphony must be the biggest hit that was never a Hot 100 hit - not including the airplay only songs from 90s how do you figure? |
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Post by forg on Aug 22, 2017 22:51:27 GMT -5
Demi's Sorry Not Sorry is top 5 on iTunes and still top 10 on Spotify. Airplay needs to pick up though, I hope it can eventually crack the top 10 soon
Louis Tomlinson's Back to You in on the rise on Spotify, maybe just an iTunes discount away to potentially get a new peak.
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 23, 2017 2:23:41 GMT -5
Pearl Jam's Alive is the biggest bubbling under hit of all time (61 weeks)
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Aug 23, 2017 3:28:07 GMT -5
Pearl Jam's Alive is the biggest bubbling under hit of all time (61 weeks) What even is that? Never heard that song |
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Post by rainie on Aug 23, 2017 4:37:02 GMT -5
Pearl Jam's Alive is the biggest bubbling under hit of all time (61 weeks) What even is that? Never heard that song ...fix that. Right now. I'm honestly surprised that music followers haven't heard that song, it's one of the most iconic songs by one of the most iconic 90s bands. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 4:46:24 GMT -5
What even is that? Never heard that song ...fix that. Right now. I'm honestly surprised that music followers haven't heard that song, it's one of the most iconic songs by one of the most iconic 90s bands. He's probably heard it, but didn't know what it was. That's how it was with me until I streamed Ten. |
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 23, 2017 5:02:50 GMT -5
Alive is also interesting because it charted mainly years later than Ten was released when the cd single came out in 1995. It was a hit in 1991-92 but was only released as a promo to radio which is one of the reasons why Ten was such a success. The only Hot 100 hit from Ten was, and still is, Jeremy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 7:19:33 GMT -5
Guys, just because Taylor Swift is releasing soon doesn't mean that Despacito won't get a 17th week. Sure, she'll have pretty high numbers for the first couple weeks, but there's no guarantees that she'll debut at #1. Although Despacito is falling in airplay pretty fast, its streaming and sales (the discount) numbers are still pretty good. There's still that part of me that wants to see Despacito break the record.
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Post by Gary on Aug 23, 2017 7:23:50 GMT -5
In more recent times, Cinema by Benny Benassi, spent 48 weeks on Bubbling and sold 1 million downloads in 2012, without ever making this chart
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Post by Someone on Aug 23, 2017 7:43:42 GMT -5
simmnfierzig's Predictions from ATRL
1 Despacito 511 (=) -4%
2 Wild Thoughts 394 (=) -13%
3 Bodak Yellow 338 (=) +9%
4 Unforgettable 313 (=)
5 Believer 304 (=)
6 Attention 301 (=)
7 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back 289 (=)
8 That's What I Like 244 (=)
9 Bank Account 237 (+3)
10 Shape Of You 232 (-1)
11 Body Like A Back Road 230 (-1)
12 Strip That Down 221 (+1)
13 Slow Hands 216 (+2)
14 I'm The One 200 (-3)
15 Congratulations 196 (-1)
16 Redbone 188 (=)
17 Sorry Not Sorry 186 (+8)
18 Humble 186 (-1)
19 Rake It Up 184 (+5)
20 Feels 176 (=)
21 Friends 175 (debut)
22 Mi Gente 175 (-1)
25 Feel It Still 169 (-1)
28 Praying 145 (-6)
31 Love Galore 120 (+4)
36 1-800-273-8255 110 (+1)
39 Versace On The Floor 107 (-6)
41 What About Us 104 (-12)
42 No Promises 99 (+1)
69 Younger Now 64 (debut)
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Post by Harx on Aug 23, 2017 7:59:59 GMT -5
simmnfierzig's Predictions from ATRL 25 Feel It Still 169 (-1) >:( |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Aug 23, 2017 8:05:29 GMT -5
simmnfierzig's Predictions from ATRL 25 Feel It Still 169 (-1) That should be +1, not -1. "Feel It Still" is currently at #26, so if it is at #25 next week, it should jump one spot. |
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Post by scrohr424 on Aug 23, 2017 8:07:57 GMT -5
39 Versace On The Floor 107 (-6) Noooooooooooooooo :( |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 23, 2017 8:19:50 GMT -5
^VotF's boost was due to video release. Unfortunately, it has been doing that well on radio ...
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Post by badrobot on Aug 23, 2017 8:25:48 GMT -5
The gap between Despacito and #3 (Bodak, the fastest rising challenger for #1) is bigger than the gap between #3 and #25. That's amazing. If it weren't for Taylor we could be looking at weeks 17, 18, 19...
(I am generally one of the people who doesn't buy into "guaranteed" #1s for big artists, but I'm betting Taylor will manage it.)
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Post by jebsib on Aug 23, 2017 8:30:05 GMT -5
That is really low for Bieber.
I thought 2U was a fluke (David Guetta lead), but I guess his hot streak is weakening?
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Post by Someone on Aug 23, 2017 8:56:22 GMT -5
That is really low for Bieber. I thought 2U was a fluke (David Guetta lead), but I guess his hot streak is weakening? think it's just because he's overexposed right now. I mean he has 3 other songs on the radio right now. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Aug 23, 2017 8:59:26 GMT -5
Guess the oversaturstion has hit JB HARD. I think some of rather underestimating how big of a first full week Taylor is gonna have. Yeah it's no "guaranteed number one debut" but neither is Shape Of You's 33rd week in the top 10 but there's a pretty good chance it happens.
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Post by Choco on Aug 23, 2017 9:03:19 GMT -5
Releasing generic EDM collaborations is bound to backfire after a while.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Aug 23, 2017 9:13:32 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format so their updates are completely incorrect Overall AI (2017/08/23) - Top 201. (=) DJ KHALED F/RIHANNA/B. TILLER- Wild Thoughts (180.866) (+1.448) 2. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (175.685) (+1.818) *** 3. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (167.448) (+1.470) 4. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (160.089) (-0.191) 5. (=) LUIS FONSI - Despacito f/Daddy Yankee (155.670) (-2.642) 6. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (127.854) (-0.457) 7. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (121.990) (-0.807) 8. (+1) SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road (117.472) (-0.300) 9. (-1) ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay (117.156) (-0.942) 10. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (111.620) (+1.640) 11. (=) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (108.607) (-0.644) 12. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (102.454) (+1.756) 13. (=) CHILDISH GAMBINO - Redbone (90.670) (-0.587) 14. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (87.375) (+0.876) 15. (=) KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me (83.355) (-0.933) 16. (=) JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Won't Let Go (78.071) (+0.187) 17. (=) CALVIN HARRIS - Feels f/Pharrell/Katy/Big Sean (76.334) (+0.251) 18. (=) HALSEY - Now Or Never (69.246) (-2.124) 19. (+2) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (65.142) (+1.340) 20. (=) OLD DOMINION - No Such Thing As A Broken Heart (64.339) (+0.314) Others: 25. (-2) JUSTIN MOORE - Somebody Else Will (59.111) (-2.459) 27. (=) LADY ANTEBELLUM - You Look Good (56.116) (+1.056) 28. (+1) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (52.523) (+1.527) 40. (+3) KHALID - Location (43.208) (+1.446) 43. (+2) P!NK - What About Us (42.247) (+1.900) 74. (+15) JUSTIN BIEBER & BLOODPOP - Friends (26.214) (+4.641)
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Aug 23, 2017 9:49:09 GMT -5
19. (+2) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (65.142) (+1.340) :) |
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