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Post by harvie on Oct 23, 2017 22:51:59 GMT -5
I never thought the super bowl incident ruined Janet's career....I thought the way she tried to spin it was the problem.
It was 100 % obvious the JT planned to rip off part of Janet's top to expose her breast. She should have embraced it. Turned it into a stand for female empowerment and asked "why do we sexualize breasts"? I always thought if Madonna had done the same thing...she would have OWNED it and turned it into a positive career defining moment of her careeer; Janet didn't do that.
Janet's (and JT'S) prob is they spun and spun and lied, instead of of just admitting it. It just became so tired. But I agree after all these years I don't care if JT is performing or not. I'm sure if he wanted to bring Janet on he would be able to.
Also even if the super bowl had never happened....Just A Little While was no where nere as strong as any single from AFY. IMO there was nothing on DJ as strong as AFY, STCML, SOAG, TAT OR COGU. So I think DJ was probably going to start to be Janets commercial downfall anyways.
I hope JT has some country guests, as I thought it should have been a country artist headlining this year.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 23, 2017 23:16:31 GMT -5
I never thought the super bowl incident ruined Janet's career....I thought the way she tried to spin it was the problem. It was 100 % obvious the JT planned to rip off part of Janet's top to expose her breast. She should have embraced it. Turned it into a stand for female empowerment and asked "why do we sexualize breasts"? I always thought if Madonna had done the same thing...she would have OWNED it and turned it into a positive career defining moment of her careeer; Janet didn't do that. Janet's (and JT'S) prob is they spun and spun and lied, instead of of just admitting it. It just became so tired. But I agree after all these years I don't care if JT is performing or not. I'm sure if he wanted to bring Janet on he would be able to. Also even if the super bowl had never happened....Just A Little While was no where nere as strong as any single from AFY. IMO there was nothing on DJ as strong as AFY, STCML, SOAG, TAT OR COGU. So I think DJ was probably going to start to be Janets commercial downfall anyways. I hope JT has some country guests, as I thought it should have been a country artist headlining this year. So you're just going to skip over the part where Justin was allowed to flourish and received a minimum amount of backlash while Janet was barred from attending the Grammy ceremony, blacklisted on radio, all the while after making a public apology THE NEXT DAMN DAY after the SB.
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Post by Disco🌶️📖 on Oct 23, 2017 23:20:07 GMT -5
Nipplegate was staged and it wasn't Justin's fault. Who told you this? Where did you read this? Do you really believe that they would do that? I know you love Justin and feel he can do no wrong but this is totally inaccurate. Who would seriously expose a nipple on international TV like that given that they probably signed contracts stipulating wholesomeness and values and stuff? Look at all the mess over M.I.A. showing her middle finger during Madonna's 2012 halftime show. The NFL threw that contract at her. It's serious business. Although IMO, I think the people crying and screaming about how an exposed nipple actually ruined their lives are probably sitting behind their computers watching GIFs of it and are masturbating furiously to it so they have no moral high ground to stand on. They liked what they saw. They need to take several seats and fuck off.
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Post by harvie on Oct 23, 2017 23:24:08 GMT -5
I think Justin was at a totally different place in his career. His solo career was hot and he was young at the time. They wanted him at the grammys! And yes he was a man and she was a woman. They both participated in a publicity stunt and were held to different standards....and that wasnt fair.
But people gotta get over it and quit trying to act like it's about race. Or Janet was a victim. She showed the world her boob and then handled it poorly.
The good thing is...she has finally found her footing as a legacy artist and is doing just fine! Currently on the BEST tour of her careeer!
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Post by harvie on Oct 23, 2017 23:30:17 GMT -5
Nipplegate was staged and it wasn't Justin's fault. Who told you this? Where did you read this? Do you really believe that they would do that? I know you love Justin and feel he can do no wrong but this is totally inaccurate. Who would seriously expose a nipple on international TV like that given that they probably signed contracts stipulating wholesomeness and values and stuff? Look at all the mess over M.I.A. showing her middle finger during Madonna's 2012 halftime show. The NFL threw that contract at her. It's serious business. Although IMO, I think the people crying and screaming about how an exposed nipple actually ruined their lives are probably sitting behind their computers watching GIFs of it and are masturbating furiously to it so they have no moral high ground to stand on. They liked what they saw. They need to take several seats and f**k off. I really try to avoid arguing with people on here and do my best to avoid "hot bttn issues". So this will be my last post of this topic. Bc the Janet's Super Bowl, Kelly vs Clive and R Kelly are 3 of the biggest things in music that people can't even try to see opposing view points on. Anyone who thinks that Janet's breast getting exposed at the superbowl was not intentional.... I think is delusional. OK . That's my last post on this issue. Please don't quote me or anything bc I won't be reading anymore messages from this thread. I wish everyone else contining the conversation good luck though!
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 23, 2017 23:48:31 GMT -5
I think Justin was at a totally different place in his career. His solo career was hot and he was young at the time. They wanted him at the grammys! And yes he was a man and she was a woman. They both participated in a publicity stunt and were held to different standards....and that wasnt fair. But people gotta get over it and quit trying to act like it's about race. Or Janet was a victim. She showed the world her boob and then handled it poorly. The good thing is...she has finally found her footing as a legacy artist and is doing just fine! Currently on the BEST tour of her careeer! Who told you this? Where did you read this? Do you really believe that they would do that? I know you love Justin and feel he can do no wrong but this is totally inaccurate. Who would seriously expose a nipple on international TV like that given that they probably signed contracts stipulating wholesomeness and values and stuff? Look at all the mess over M.I.A. showing her middle finger during Madonna's 2012 halftime show. The NFL threw that contract at her. It's serious business. Although IMO, I think the people crying and screaming about how an exposed nipple actually ruined their lives are probably sitting behind their computers watching GIFs of it and are masturbating furiously to it so they have no moral high ground to stand on. They liked what they saw. They need to take several seats and f**k off. I really try to avoid arguing with people on here and do my best to avoid "hot bttn issues". So this will be my last post of this topic. Bc the Janet's Super Bowl, Kelly vs Clive and R Kelly are 3 of the biggest things in music that people can't even try to see opposing view points on. Anyone who thinks that Janet's breast getting exposed at the superbowl was not intentional.... I think is delusional. OK . That's my last post on this issue. Please don't quote me or anything bc I won't be reading anymore messages from this thread. I wish everyone else contining the conversation good luck though! You brought nothing to the conversation. Peace.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 23, 2017 23:53:09 GMT -5
People are really reading way too much into this. Janet Jackson is an icon, everyone (sane) knows this. Sadly, her career was on its way out regardless of the SB. Justin was still new and thriving and defeating the odds of going from boy band to headline star. There may have been some shadiness through out this, and maybe Justin was in the wrong, but it was over a decade ago. Janet is fine, everyone is over this. Janet was on her way out ...yet she opened with her highest debuting album to date with over 600K+ with All For You. It was the 2nd biggest opening for a female EVER at the time. EVER. I had to bold that so you could give it a second glance to get the scope. A first single of the same name broke radio records by being added across the board on Urban, Rhythmic, and Pop Radio. FIRST/ ONLY ONE TO DO IT AT THE TIME. The song remained at the top of the Hot 100 for 7 weeks. Yeah but none of the tracks off Damita Jo would have been big crossover hits in 2004 on the scale of her past ones. No, not even the flawless Island Life. It's hard, I know, but you can accept it like I did. Most that would have happened was a slightly longer life for the first single, and slightly higher album sales maybe (though it should be mentioned that it did sell over a million anyway against all this, and much more negative reviews than her previous projects, which is more than what Madonna and Whitney (the latter of which had a December release) had done with their recent efforts then, and just below Mariah). And the stunt that led to nipplegate was planned. The mishap was that the lace underneath wasn't suppose to come off with the leather. If you (not you BMAC, "you" as in general) think the act of him ripping off a piece of clothing was something out of the blue, well...I guess someone somewhere may be studying the effects of stan culture on logical thought, so in the name of science, you should call them up and volunteer your brain for that study after you die. Either way, that's not the issue here. The issue was the degree to which the blame was put on Janet, and how virtually only she got the brunt of the criticism, to the extent that it overshadowed her entire career until we were well into Obama's second term. It exemplified all the negatives of society that have been mentioned here. All she should have gotten was the same criticism as everyone else for taking part in a stunt that didn't go the way it was supposed to, which is by far not what happened. Which brings back my point from my original post in this thread, which is that it's just not in Janet's best interest at all to be part of this (which is separate from the issue of JT doing this at all). After over a decade, when she finally started to get good contemporary press for her career in the past few years, why should she go back to this, when she clearly won't be treated fairly again no matter how it goes, and where there's a 99% chance of it just being pushed out of the news cycle after a day?
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Post by Disco🌶️📖 on Oct 24, 2017 0:03:53 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that Janet's breast getting exposed at the superbowl was not intentional.... I think is delusional. OK. I do think the fabric ripping thing was part of the choreography but I don't think they actually expected the breast to be completely exposed as others have also said.
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Post by dwhite725 on Oct 24, 2017 1:46:50 GMT -5
It was all planned. Let's be real. They both knew it. I knew it before it happened. Wasn't the last line "I'll have you naked by the end of this song?" I don't think either are innocent at all. Do I think it was a big deal to start with? NO. What child has not sucked on their mothers tit? Granted it's not called that at that time in life, but it's not like his dick was exposed. I hope Janet does do it and least rips his shirt off exposing his bare chest. Justin started his solo career being a sexpot with shirtless photo shoots just like Nick Jonas did but hasn't been like that since nipplegate.
I don't think he'd allow her or ask her to be honest. I think it would be a good move on her part if asked. Who knows. The NFL has gotten a lot of scrutiny bc of the kneeling and deflate gate over the past few years maybe they want to take the spotlight off of the organization and that's why Justin is there and maybe he has to have Janet??
I honestly thought it would be JLo since I do believe NBC is airing the SB this year and she obviously has good standing with NBC.
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Post by music89 on Oct 24, 2017 3:49:14 GMT -5
I don’t understand why many people blame Justin. Janet said she decided to change the performance after the final rehearsal. Justin was supposed to rip off the leather piece to show just that red thing but something went wrong. Janet decided to take the risk.
Btw she said Justin tried to reach out to her. They both apologized to America on TV. The truth is that America is full of fake moralists. They should have banned manyyy music videos then.
Anyway I’m happy JT is performing mostly because it means a new album is on the way (I actually hope it drops before the SB). JT is a great performer and has many classics. He will kill it.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 24, 2017 4:29:51 GMT -5
The incident itself is not the issue, it's about what happened afterwards.
Justin was welcomed to Grammys, Janet wasn't
Justin wasn't banned from NFL, Janet was.
Justin is going to perform at the Super Bowl for THIRD time, Janet is not.
So we all know who the villain here is according to decision makers
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Post by music89 on Oct 24, 2017 5:17:32 GMT -5
The incident itself is not the issue, it's about what happened afterwards. Justin was welcomed to Grammys, Janet wasn't Justin wasn't banned from NFL, Janet was. Justin is going to perform at the Super Bowl for THIRD time, Janet is not. So we all know who the villain here is according to decision makers But still it isn’t JT fault if all that happened. It’s America fault. Of course she didn’t deserve to be treated like that. Btw JT is bigger than Janet now and that’s why they wanted him to perform.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 24, 2017 6:59:48 GMT -5
This whole "bring back" Janet mess ya'll are trying to pull is honestly not needed. Justin has been popular for the past decade or so. Janet is without a doubt an icon, but they are NOT going to ask her to perform at the Superbowl in 2018 because she's not the draw she once was, and there's many artists more profitable to the NFL than her nowadays. I do not want Janet anywhere near that stage. The point is not her being allowed to be a guest or not, the point is the double standard.
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Post by Relaxing Cup on Oct 24, 2017 8:48:36 GMT -5
The incident itself is not the issue, it's about what happened afterwards. Justin was welcomed to Grammys, Janet wasn't Justin wasn't banned from NFL, Janet was. Justin is going to perform at the Super Bowl for THIRD time, Janet is not. So we all know who the villain here is according to decision makers But still it isn’t JT fault if all that happened. It’s America fault. Of course she didn’t deserve to be treated like that. Btw JT is bigger than Janet now and that’s why they wanted him to perform. The fact that you’re unable to place any blame onto Justin for the treatment of Janet post Super Bowl, despite him deliberately throwing her under the bus, is a perfect example of white privilege and exactly why so many people are up in arms about him performing. Janet Jackson, being the class act that that she is, took complete responsibility for an incident she was not completely responsible for. Justin left her in the cold and actually made a public effort to shift the blame completely onto her. If you’re unable to see how Justin had any fault in the situation, you’re intentionally trying not to.
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Post by Gary on Oct 24, 2017 9:22:34 GMT -5
No Super Bowl halftime show ban for Janet Jackson, who has interest in performing Could Janet Jackson make an appearance with Justin Timberlake at Super Bowl LII?
After the NFL officially announced on Sunday that Justin Timberlake would be headlining the Super Bowl LII halftime show in February, most people on the internet wanted to know if that also meant that Janet Jackson would be returning to the world's biggest stage.
Alright if Justin Timberlake gets to come back and get a second chance at the Super Bowl so should Janet Jackson. — Alyssa Fisher (@alyssabfisher) October 23, 2017
Most people were wondering that because the last time Timberlake performed at halftime of the Super Bowl came in February 2004 when he exposed Jackson's nipple to the world in what will likely go down as the most infamous "wardrobe malfunction" in history.
The fallout from that performance was brutal for Jackson, who immediately saw her career take a turn for the worse. The NFL was so upset with the performance that MTV was banned from producing any future halftime shows.
"We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show," NFL executive vice president Joe Browne said at the time. "They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show. It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
The NFL reacted to to malfunction by giving up on the younger music demographic and targeting older performers for their next five halftime shows, though the trend has reversed in recent years.
After the "Wardrobe Malfunction," the next 5 Super Bowl halftime performers were at least 48 years old.
The last 6 are 38 or younger: pic.twitter.com/oJbbpWBqMD — Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) October 23, 2017
With Timberlake set to return the halftime show for the first time since the 2004 controversy, the NFL made it clear that Jackson isn't banned from the Super Bowl and that she would be welcomed back if that's the route the producers of the concert want to take with the Super Bowl LII show, which is slated for Feb. 4 in Minneapolis.
"There's no ban [on Jackson]," the league told Entertainment Tonight in a statement. "We are not going to comment on any speculation regarding potential guests. There may be no guests. Along with Pepsi, we're excited to have Justin Timberlake. Like the elite NFL players who can run, catch, and block, Justin can do it all -- sing, dance, act and entertain. He's the ultimate global superstar who we know will put on an entertaining and unifying show that will appeal to the massive worldwide audience."
If Timberlake decides to reach out to Jackson, it's almost a guarantee that she would accept an offer to take part in the show.
"The door is wide open," a Jackson source told ET. "If Justin or his team did reach out, Janet would perform with him again in a minute."
Jackson's wardrobe malfunction was such a big deal that it actually led to the creation of YouTube. Although pretty much everyone in the country knew about the Jackson incident, it was almost impossible to rewatch because the video wasn't readily available on the internet.
By the way, if there was any sort of "wardrobe malfunction" at any future Super Bowl, there would likely be a large fine involved for the artist. After singer M.I.A. flashed his middle finger during halftime of Super Bowl XLIV, the NFL filed a lawsuit for $16.6 million. Although the two sides eventually settled out of court, the NFL was able to file the lawsuit because every artist who does the halftime show has to sign a contract stating that their "performance and wardrobe" will comply with NFL standards, according to ESPN.com.
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Post by music89 on Oct 24, 2017 10:23:53 GMT -5
But still it isn’t JT fault if all that happened. It’s America fault. Of course she didn’t deserve to be treated like that. Btw JT is bigger than Janet now and that’s why they wanted him to perform. The fact that you’re unable to place any blame onto Justin for the treatment of Janet post Super Bowl, despite him deliberately throwing her under the bus, is a perfect example of white privilege and exactly why so many people are up in arms about him performing. Janet Jackson, being the class act that that she is, took complete responsibility for an incident she was not completely responsible for. Justin left her in the cold and actually made a public effort to shift the blame completely onto her. If you’re unable to see how Justin had any fault in the situation, you’re intentionally trying not to. Not everything is about white privilege. It was more about sexism. You all forgot when Madonna’s American Life (original) music video was banned? Madonna is a white woman.
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Post by Caviar on Oct 24, 2017 11:03:07 GMT -5
The fact that you’re unable to place any blame onto Justin for the treatment of Janet post Super Bowl, despite him deliberately throwing her under the bus, is a perfect example of white privilege and exactly why so many people are up in arms about him performing. Janet Jackson, being the class act that that she is, took complete responsibility for an incident she was not completely responsible for. Justin left her in the cold and actually made a public effort to shift the blame completely onto her. If you’re unable to see how Justin had any fault in the situation, you’re intentionally trying not to. Not everything is about white privilege. It was more about sexism. You all forgot when Madonna’s American Life (original) music video was banned? Madonna is a white woman. Madonna also got into the Rock & Roll HAF before Janet and Whitney. It's obvious at this point.
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Post by Choco on Oct 24, 2017 11:14:05 GMT -5
I can see her being a "surprise guest" This. I'm sure he'll bring her to the show, even if it's just to avoid the controversy.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 24, 2017 11:27:26 GMT -5
People are deflecting. It doesn't matter if it were planned or not. The difference in response each party is the issue here. He faced no repercussions. Janet faced actual, documented repercussions. It doesn't matter if her album would've flopped regardless. They took direct, quantifiable actions to ensure she paid for this incident. Justin got off scot-free.
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Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson have both survived 'Nipplegate' Lisa France-Profile-ImageBy Lisa Respers France, CNN Updated 6:39 PM ET, Mon October 23, 2017 (CNN)The internet still wants Justin Timberlake to apologize to Janet Jackson for Nipplegate, but it looks like she's doing just fine. The announcement that Timberlake will perform in Super Bowl LII's halftime show on February 4 in Minneapolis has reignited criticism that the "Cry Me A River" singer didn't do right by Jackson after her "wardrobe malfunction" during their halftime Super Bowl XXXVIII performance in 2004. Related: Justin Timberlake to perform at his first Super Bowl since 'Nipplegate' For those who need a refresher, Timberlake ripped off Jackson's bodice and revealed her right breast while the two were performing his hit "Rock Your Body" at the end of the halftime show. The stunt occurred just as Timberlake sang the last line,"I'm gonna have you naked by the end of this song." Jackson said in a statement at the time that it was a "costume reveal" gone awry and issued an apology. Timberlake also apologized for the incident and said it was "not intentional and is regrettable." "Nipplegate" was born, with Jackson bearing the brunt of the criticism and fallout, which included a staggering $550,000 fine levied against CBS by the Federal Communication Commission. The Supreme Court tossed out the fine in 2012. Timberlake didn't come out unscathed. He faced criticism from those who believe he has appropriated black culture with his music but didn't do enough to defend Jackson during the media hailstorm that followed the Super Bowl incident. Last year, Kendra James wrote an essay for Cosmopolitan magazine about a dust up over a Timberlake tweet in which the pop star said he was "#inspired" by a speech made by black actor Jesse Williams at the BET Awards. James wrote that "Despite a career-long fascination with (and use of) black pop culture, Justin Timberlake has never done or said anything to prove he's in any way connected to or concerned with black Americans — at least not black Americans who exist outside of the recording studio." "He did not defend Janet Jackson when she was unfairly dragged for the exposure of her breast at the Super Bowl in 2004 (even though it was he who exposed it)," she wrote. "He has not spoken out about Black Lives Matter." James' piece renewed calls for Timberlake to apologize to Jackson over Nipplegate, a sentiment seen all over Twitter again on Sunday when news broke that he will appear on the Super Bowl stage for the second time, 14 years after his first performance. Is it a twelve minute apology speech to Janet Jackson? t.co/vq5hEssUAn — Phillip Henry (@majorphilebrity) October 23, 2017 Justin Timberlake officially doing Super Bowl halftime. Dream setlist: - "Lovestoned" - 9-minute Janet Jackson apology - "Gone" (w/ *NSYNC) — Jason Lipshutz (@jasonlipshutz) October 23, 2017 Unless Justin Timberlake starts his set by introducing Janet Jackson with an apology and then continues watching quietly while she does 12 minutes of her catalog solo, the Super Bowl can keep this halftime show. — Crystal Methanny (@rafidangelo) October 23, 2017 It's safe to say that both stars have bounced back personally and professionally from the fiasco. While Jackson kept a low profile for a minute, including reportedly dropping out of playing the legendary Lena Horne in a TV project, albums "Damito Jo," "20 Y.O." and "Discipline" were well received in 2004, 2006 and 2008 respectively. She went on to star in Tyler Perry's 2007 box office hit, "Why Did I Get Married" and its 2010 sequel. The singer emerged from the grief of losing her superstar brother Michael Jackson in 2009 to write about her struggles with body image in the 2011 book "True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself." It shot to No. 1 on the New York Times bestsellers list. In 2012, Jackson quietly married Qatari billionaire Wissam Al Mana. Three years later, Jackson postponed the remainder of her "Unbreakable" tour, which was tied to her album by the same name, for another life changing moment: The singer said she and her husband were "planning a family." Jackson announced later that year that she was pregnant with her first child at the age of 50. Son Eissa Al Mana was born in January 2017 and Jackson and her husband split a few months later. She is back on the road with her 56-city "State of the World" tour.
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 24, 2017 12:22:05 GMT -5
That article is so fucking absurd. "but it looks like she's doing just fine." "Timberlake didn't come out unscathed." "It's safe to say that both stars have bounced back personally and professionally from the fiasco. While Jackson kept a low profile for a minute..."
What shitty, irresponsible journalism.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 24, 2017 12:32:58 GMT -5
That Janet part of the article is disgusting
I am not 100% against Janet being part of the set because it's a good promo for her too but some kind of apology needs to be addressed and he and NFL must acknowledge their double standard.
And if Justin allows Janet to perform, she'll totally steal his show
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Post by Duca on Oct 24, 2017 12:48:35 GMT -5
Someone PM'd me to remind me that Clear Channel BANNED Janet's music following the incident and that she was scheduled to perform with JT at the Grammys, but was BANNED - while he performed. So it's even worse than I remembered. Yeah, I have to say that any backlash is understandable. Except Justin had nothing to do with this since Janet refused to apologize on air which was required from both in order to attend. Timberlake apologizes for revealing Super Bowl
A statement from CBS said Timberlake's apology was a requirement for his participation in the broadcast. The network said Jackson declined the invitation to appear and apologize. CBS is a major player and she gave them the middle finger. At the very least, she should have taken a break to let the controversy die down if she decided to stay mum but she released the lead single from her upcoming album immediately after the halftime show instead. Justin took two and a half years off after the Super Bowl, keeping a low profile. The only thing he released during his break was Signs in 2005, which was a major global hit (on par with Janet's biggest hits internationally) that the US didn't touch -- it missed the top 40 there and peaked lower than Janet's first single from Damita Jo. When comparing their post-Super Bowl careers, I think it's important to acknowledge the fact that Justin's music kept getting better while Janet's just kept getting worse (until Unbreakable) and very likely played a big role in her decline.
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Post by Duca on Oct 24, 2017 12:57:44 GMT -5
Nipplegate was staged and it wasn't Justin's fault. Who told you this? Where did you read this? Do you really believe that they would do that? I know you love Justin and feel he can do no wrong but this is totally inaccurate. Who would seriously expose a nipple on international TV like that given that they probably signed contracts stipulating wholesomeness and values and stuff? Look at all the mess over M.I.A. showing her middle finger during Madonna's 2012 halftime show. The NFL threw that contract at her. It's serious business. Although IMO, I think the people crying and screaming about how an exposed nipple actually ruined their lives are probably sitting behind their computers watching GIFs of it and are masturbating furiously to it so they have no moral high ground to stand on. They liked what they saw. They need to take several seats and f**k off. Janet said that Justin was supposed to pull away the bustier and leave the red lace bra but she wasn't wearing a bra at all during the performance. There was just red lace trim sewn to the bustier: There are so many articles about it. She was also seen buying a nipple ring one day before the show and photographers said that her handlers warned them in advance to be ready for a surprise. The fact that you’re unable to place any blame onto Justin for the treatment of Janet post Super Bowl, despite him deliberately throwing her under the bus, is a perfect example of white privilege and exactly why so many people are up in arms about him performing. Janet Jackson, being the class act that that she is, took complete responsibility for an incident she was not completely responsible for. Justin left her in the cold and actually made a public effort to shift the blame completely onto her. If you’re unable to see how Justin had any fault in the situation, you’re intentionally trying not to. Justin has literally never said that what happened was Janet's fault or anyone else's. He kept apologizing without shifting blame.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Oct 24, 2017 14:40:41 GMT -5
Someone PM'd me to remind me that Clear Channel BANNED Janet's music following the incident and that she was scheduled to perform with JT at the Grammys, but was BANNED - while he performed. So it's even worse than I remembered. Yeah, I have to say that any backlash is understandable. Except Justin had nothing to do with this since Janet refused to apologize on air which was required from both in order to attend. Timberlake apologizes for revealing Super Bowl
A statement from CBS said Timberlake's apology was a requirement for his participation in the broadcast. The network said Jackson declined the invitation to appear and apologize. CBS is a major player and she gave them the middle finger. At the very least, she should have taken a break to let the controversy die down if she decided to stay mum but she released the lead single from her upcoming album immediately after the halftime show instead. Justin took two and a half years off after the Super Bowl, keeping a low profile. The only thing he released during his break was Signs in 2005, which was a major global hit (on par with Janet's biggest hits internationally) that the US didn't touch -- it missed the top 40 there and peaked lower than Janet's first single from Damita Jo. When comparing their post-Super Bowl careers, I think it's important to acknowledge the fact that Justin's music kept getting better while Janet's just kept getting worse (until Unbreakable) and very likely played a big role in her decline. Janet had already made an apology the next day with a video explaining everything. Why make her go through that again on-air at the Grammy's? That is embarrassing while that dry ass apology Justin gave was enough to whet their appetite.
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Post by deepston on Oct 24, 2017 15:36:34 GMT -5
Bah this will be boring as hell
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 22:16:07 GMT -5
Who told you this? Where did you read this? Do you really believe that they would do that? I know you love Justin and feel he can do no wrong but this is totally inaccurate. Who would seriously expose a nipple on international TV like that given that they probably signed contracts stipulating wholesomeness and values and stuff? Look at all the mess over M.I.A. showing her middle finger during Madonna's 2012 halftime show. The NFL threw that contract at her. It's serious business. Although IMO, I think the people crying and screaming about how an exposed nipple actually ruined their lives are probably sitting behind their computers watching GIFs of it and are masturbating furiously to it so they have no moral high ground to stand on. They liked what they saw. They need to take several seats and f**k off. Janet said that Justin was supposed to pull away the bustier and leave the red lace bra but she wasn't wearing a bra at all during the performance. There was just red lace trim sewn to the bustier: There are so many articles about it. She was also seen buying a nipple ring one day before the show and photographers said that her handlers warned them in advance to be ready for a surprise. The fact that you’re unable to place any blame onto Justin for the treatment of Janet post Super Bowl, despite him deliberately throwing her under the bus, is a perfect example of white privilege and exactly why so many people are up in arms about him performing. Janet Jackson, being the class act that that she is, took complete responsibility for an incident she was not completely responsible for. Justin left her in the cold and actually made a public effort to shift the blame completely onto her. If you’re unable to see how Justin had any fault in the situation, you’re intentionally trying not to. Justin has literally never said that what happened was Janet's fault or anyone else's. He kept apologizing without shifting blame. Stan! You came with illustrations and conspiracy theories and everything lol! m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY
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Post by think pink. on Oct 25, 2017 23:36:38 GMT -5
I really hope Janet doesn't join him on stage..she's Janet Jackson. She is nobody's special f**kin guest. Especially not Justin's. In a perfect world she'd be doing the SB next year. All by herself, no guests needed. And remind the public just who in the f**k Janet Jackson is.
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Post by Gary on Oct 26, 2017 7:07:10 GMT -5
but yet reports are out that she will perform, if he asks.
It is still early yet but I have a feeling he will ask as we get closer to put an end to the issue
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Post by Caviar on Oct 26, 2017 7:22:06 GMT -5
but yet reports are out that she will perform, if he asks. Those are unverified sources.
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