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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 11, 2017 21:37:50 GMT -5
The last single Jo Dee Messina released while still under Curb Records evil grasp is "Shine," which we see follow in the footsteps of two of her other final releases with the label to be her third official country single out. The sunny and uplifting number is pure bottle optimism, one of her signature styles over the years. An ill-fated single pushed by her mediocre label after her star had already faded at country radio, it failed to make any impact and wind up on any of her Unmistakable-era EPs, and was probably the most unknown radio offering in the rankdown. Still, it received one Top 10 and six additional Top 20 ranks, but an unusually high number of #28 ranks dimmed this one's shine.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 11, 2017 21:41:30 GMT -5
"Shine" is amazing and I don't understand why Curb pulled it. (It didn't fail to chart they pulled it :( )
I love this song so so much. Shame on Curb for not even tacking it on one of the Unmistakable eps.
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Post by LBTrocks on Oct 11, 2017 21:43:14 GMT -5
"Shine" is incredible. Dang y'all.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 11, 2017 22:09:42 GMT -5
"Shine" is amazing and I don't understand why Curb pulled it. (It didn't fail to chart they pulled it :( ) I love this song so so much. Shame on Curb for not even tacking it on one of the Unmistakable eps. The Unmistakable: Love EP had 7 original songs on it and the other two only had 6 on them, and "I'm Done" would've fit perfectly on Drive and "Shine" on Inspiration.... so since Curb didn't do that, I did it myself in my own music library, lol. I didn't know it was pulled though, oop. That must explain why it's impossible to find now.
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.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 11, 2017 22:17:13 GMT -5
That's it for now, but now that we've blown through all the non-singles and most of the singles that weren't included on an album, who wants to take a stab at what our first elimination from one of Jo Dee's albums will come in at #24?
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 11, 2017 22:21:14 GMT -5
"Do You Wanna Make Something Of It" or "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry" would be my guess. They're very forgotten among her singles.
I'd think "He's Messed Up" or "A Woman's Rant" may also be in trouble.
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Post by LBTrocks on Oct 11, 2017 22:22:02 GMT -5
I feel like "Delicious Surprise (I Believe It)" is about done.. hope I'm wrong, but I can't see it lasting much longer. I'll say that's next.
I wonder how "My Give A Damn's Busted" will do. I have no idea if that's liked or disliked on Pulse.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 11, 2017 22:31:29 GMT -5
My thinking is "He's Messed Up", "A Woman's Rant", "Do You Wanna Make Something Of It", "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry" and "Delicious Surprise" are most likely the most in danger of leaving soon. I'd add "I'm Done" but you did say it was a song from an album and that song is not on an album.
Also I'm not sure how "Downtime" or "Dare To Dream" are gonna do but am gonna guess they are coming sooner than later.
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Post by LBTrocks on Oct 11, 2017 22:35:15 GMT -5
My thinking is "He's Messed Up", "A Woman's Rant", "Do You Wanna Make Something Of It", "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry" and "Delicious Surprise" are most likely the most in danger of leaving soon. I'd add "I'm Done" but you did say it was a song from an album and that song is not on an album. Also I'm not sure how "Downtime" or "Dare To Dream" are gonna do but am gonna guess they are coming sooner than later. Is "Dare To Dream" really not well liked? It's an INCREDIBLE song! I am going to be so upset if it lands anywhere outside of the top 10.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 11, 2017 22:43:10 GMT -5
My thinking is "He's Messed Up", "A Woman's Rant", "Do You Wanna Make Something Of It", "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry" and "Delicious Surprise" are most likely the most in danger of leaving soon. I'd add "I'm Done" but you did say it was a song from an album and that song is not on an album. Also I'm not sure how "Downtime" or "Dare To Dream" are gonna do but am gonna guess they are coming sooner than later. Is "Dare To Dream" really not well liked? It's an INCREDIBLE song! I am going to be so upset if it lands anywhere outside of the top 10. its not that it is not well liked but I cannot see it doing better than "Heads Carolina Tails California", "You're Not In Kansas Anymore", "I'm Alright", "Bye Bye", "Stand Beside Me", "Lesson In Leavin', "Because You Love Me", "That's The Way", "Bring On The Rain", and "My Give A Damn's Busted". It could be in the running for top 10 over "Burn", "Not Goin' Down, "Was That My Life" or "Peace Sign" but I still don't see it making it that far.
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Post by LBTrocks on Oct 11, 2017 22:48:04 GMT -5
Is "Dare To Dream" really not well liked? It's an INCREDIBLE song! I am going to be so upset if it lands anywhere outside of the top 10. its not that it is not well liked but I cannot see it doing better than "Heads Carolina Tails California", "You're Not In Kansas Anymore", "I'm Alright", "Bye Bye", "Stand Beside Me", "Lesson In Leavin', "Because You Love Me", "That's The Way", "Bring On The Rain", and "My Give A Damn's Busted". It could be in the running for top 10 over "Burn", "Not Goin' Down, "Was That My Life" or "Peace Sign" but I still don't see it making it that far. I ranked it higher than all of those songs you listed except for one of them lol. I hope it can beat the odds and make it farther than expected <3
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 11, 2017 22:49:06 GMT -5
My thinking is "He's Messed Up", "A Woman's Rant", "Do You Wanna Make Something Of It", "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry" and "Delicious Surprise" are most likely the most in danger of leaving soon. I'd add "I'm Done" but you did say it was a song from an album and that song is not on an album. Also I'm not sure how "Downtime" or "Dare To Dream" are gonna do but am gonna guess they are coming sooner than later. Is "Dare To Dream" really not well liked? It's an INCREDIBLE song! I am going to be so upset if it lands anywhere outside of the top 10. To be fair, it was the only real flop during her heyday from like 1998 to 2003, so it's probably less remembered than all of the classics she had during that time-frame. It definitely deserved better on the charts.
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Post by d3vin44 on Oct 11, 2017 23:02:06 GMT -5
He'd never seen Julie cry or Dare to Dream will be next. All y'all predicting Delicious Surprise super suck!
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Post by codyj100 on Oct 12, 2017 0:19:54 GMT -5
"Shine" is amazing and I don't understand why Curb pulled it. (It didn't fail to chart they pulled it :( ) I love this song so so much. Shame on Curb for not even tacking it on one of the Unmistakable eps. The Unmistakable: Love EP had 7 original songs on it and the other two only had 6 on them, and "I'm Done" would've fit perfectly on Drive and "Shine" on Inspiration.... so since Curb didn't do that, I did it myself in my own music library, lol. I didn't know it was pulled though, oop. That must explain why it's impossible to find now. Jo Dee once said during her Make Something Of It podcast (pre-Curb departure, 2010) that she hopes “Shine” never sees the light of day after what Curb put her through with that song. Apparently the situation involved her pregnancy and a threat to her contract. I believe there is still video of that somewhere. So so sad.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Oct 12, 2017 0:56:56 GMT -5
I don't know why I placed Here one spot higher than Noel - Here it's just so different from here other songs and not in a good way. I don't like production and instrumentation at all and overall feeling I get from it is not good either. Another song that I won't listen again.
Shine on the other hand is great song. It's one of those songs that would easily end up ten spots higher on my list. Instrumentation and lyrics more typical for her and melody on chorus is addictive. Great song.
I think that the next songs to be eleminated are Delicious Surprise and He'd never seen Julie Cry. I hope that A Woman's Rant won't be eliminated anytime soon.
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Post by tim on Oct 12, 2017 0:58:52 GMT -5
Looking back I probably would've placed "Here" lower than I did; I don't like it as much now as I did even a month or so ago.
And I guess I'm the only left with their last place ranking...it's just a hot mess IMO.
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Post by austin on Oct 12, 2017 6:42:27 GMT -5
Do You Wanna Make Something Of It is next. For sure.
Shine was way too low.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 12, 2017 22:06:39 GMT -5
The first radio single from one of Jo Dee's albums to bite the dust here is "He's Messed Up." tim didn't have to wait too long past everyone else to lose his #32 as it departs here, taking with it three other bottom 5s! On the flipside, another person loses a Top 10, and five more Top 20s as well. Her most recent country radio release as of this rankdown, it didn't seem that Jo Dee left us on a high note for most of you. Good job to Kanenrá:ke and castleoblivion26 for being the only posters to even suggest this one would be coming up soon.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 12, 2017 22:38:58 GMT -5
All of our eliminations up to this point had fallen on the back half of Jo Dee's career ("A Joyful Noise" being the one exception), but we finally see a shot taken at her 1990s output with the departure of "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry." We lose an impressive tally of #19s, and it's Kanenrá:ke who takes the first blow to his Top 10 this time. The spread for this one was pretty small, with a lot of rankings right around the cusp of Top 20 (either just inside or just out), with only one poster with this in their Bottom 5. "Julie" features a pretty vocal from Jo Dee, but it flopped on the charts just before she was propelled into superstardom and it appears most of y'all didn't see this one as a standout.
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Post by LBTrocks on Oct 12, 2017 23:10:13 GMT -5
I always forget "He's Messed Up" exists lol but I do really like it.
"He'd Never Seen Julie Cry" is beautiful and I may have underranked it a bit, but it's tough because her catalog is so strong. If I had ended up ranking it higher, I think it would have only been by a few spots.
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Post by d3vin44 on Oct 13, 2017 0:02:37 GMT -5
I LOVE "He's messed up". It's a bit of a guilty pleasure. As far as "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry", to me is a tad boring, but I love the things she does with her voice on it. Nothing like anything else in her catelog.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Oct 13, 2017 12:09:37 GMT -5
I LOVE "He's messed up". It's a bit of a guilty pleasure. As far as "He'd Never Seen Julie Cry", to me is a tad boring, but I love the things she does with her voice on it. Nothing like anything else in her catelog. While I love it so the first part of your assessment I can't agree with, the latter half about how she uses her voice on it I totally agree with! It's a standout for me because of that. I'm pleasantly suprised it wasn't gone in the first few so I can live with my first top 10 loss. Love it though!
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Oct 13, 2017 14:17:57 GMT -5
He's Messed Up is great! That instrumental part before verses is awesome and I like chorus very much - especialy melody and the way she sings it.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 13, 2017 16:33:26 GMT -5
For me personally, "He's Messed Up" is the worst thing she's given country radio to date. It would've been my 32 if it weren't for her also having some irrelevant non-singles in this list (like "Unbreakable"). The call-and-response with the crowd is grating to me and the production is pretty weak on it, especially whatever that awful robot noise is that happens over her voice in the second verse, lol. The melody is catchy, so I can give it that, but it's easily one of my least-favorite songs on her Me album, which had a handful of great songs that would've been much better radio options (not that she was destined to get much airplay anyway, but still).
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Post by austin on Oct 13, 2017 23:58:32 GMT -5
For me personally, "He's Messed Up" is the worst thing she's given country radio to date. It would've been my 32 if it weren't for her also having some irrelevant non-singles in this list (like "Unbreakable"). The call-and-response with the crowd is grating to me and the production is pretty weak on it, especially whatever that awful robot noise is that happens over her voice in the second verse, lol. The melody is catchy, so I can give it that, but it's easily one of my least-favorite songs on her Me album, which had a handful of great songs that would've been much better radio options (not that she was destined to get much airplay anyway, but still). I absolutely adore He’s Messed Up But they definitely should have released Love On A Maybe.
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Post by someguy on Oct 15, 2017 1:16:40 GMT -5
In hindsight, I probably overranked "He's Messed Up". She doesn't really have any bad singles though, save a couple.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 16, 2017 18:45:13 GMT -5
After a weekend off for me because I kept getting too busy, I'm back for more reveals to get us to the Top 20!
Here's a clue for what's next:
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Post by d3vin44 on Oct 16, 2017 19:11:47 GMT -5
I hope you are tricking me because I can not lose DELICIOUS SURPRISE this soon!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 16, 2017 19:19:51 GMT -5
We lose another single from the Me era to bring it down to just 1 song standing from that era. This time it's "A Woman's Rant" that is cut short shy of the Top 20. I take the third loss to my Top 10 here, and BackwoodsBarbie also sees her first high rank out with this reveal. A lot of posters lose a mid-20 rank with this one, with a couple of bottom 5s in the mix.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 16, 2017 19:20:16 GMT -5
I hope you are tricking me because I can not lose DELICIOUS SURPRISE this soon! How'd you get "Delicious Surprise" from that?
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