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Post by Web on Oct 10, 2017 17:38:43 GMT -5
in the last 22 hours, only four of the ten alive players have posted, and I'm the only one with more than two posts. I can continue to dig back through the game and make some cases on where we should go from here but if no one is actually reacting, responding, offering their own thoughts or pressuring players there isn't anything new to work off of.
Where is everyone? Who do you think is scum? What do you think of my case against Snark Knight? Our wagons are really disorganized and we're coming up on 24 hours to go, this could get really bad really fast for town.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:39:58 GMT -5
I already said all my piece yesterday. Nothing new added yet for me to say, dunno what else to say. But again, I am very very confident that one of Az or Codex is Mafia.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 17:48:08 GMT -5
If we are planning to lynch someone, we need distinct evidence. So far, we have varying levels of authenticity and a whole lot of confusion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:54:01 GMT -5
Codex why not elaborate now just in case you do not survive until tomorrow.
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Post by Web on Oct 10, 2017 17:54:27 GMT -5
gravey and milo, hopefully you guys do recognize that if everyone took your approach and waited around for other players to post that nothing would happen in the game? Sometimes you have to be the ones to look back and find the evidence instead of waiting for it to be brought to you, especially as the number of players in the game is cut down.
So continue to make your cases, try to convince other people to join your wagons, or alternatively look at the cases other players have brought against posters and determine which you agree with and change your votes. Mafia love when no one posts because the game can't move forward and no one gets any extra information to work with in future days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:55:33 GMT -5
Codex why not elaborate now just in case you do not survive until tomorrow. What? Nevermind I confused myself too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:56:03 GMT -5
Oh I read tomorrow as next day in game. Oops
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 18:09:02 GMT -5
gravey and milo, hopefully you guys do recognize that if everyone took your approach and waited around for other players to post that nothing would happen in the game? Sometimes you have to be the ones to look back and find the evidence instead of waiting for it to be brought to you, especially as the number of players in the game is cut down. So continue to make your cases, try to convince other people to join your wagons, or alternatively look at the cases other players have brought against posters and determine which you agree with and change your votes. Mafia love when no one posts because the game can't move forward and no one gets any extra information to work with in future days. Sorry, I just don't have much new thoughts about people. BUT, I have some ideas about tonight's elimination: Mafia is probably going to eliminate you. You are a town seeming player, with a high post count and trying to bring others together. Obviously, this is assuming you are indeed town, but if they don't eliminate you, I would find that suspicious. Aside from the Albie thing, no other player has been almost universally (BTW, Snark Knight's vote against you is giving me some suspicion of him now, but I still give him a town lean for now) accepted as town, and as Albie is almost certain to be protected it would just make sense to eliminate you, right? EXCEPT, one thing. The doctor or deputy. I know the best point of call is to save Albie for now, but the other would try to save the person most likely to be eliminated. Wait, gtg, brb.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 10, 2017 18:19:25 GMT -5
Vote Update Day Three ends Wednesday Oct 11th at 11pm EST
to have a majority vote 6 people must vote for the same person and keep their vote active until the deadline!
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):(1) Galaxy Girl - miloninja (2) gravey - BackwoodsBarbie, Zedd (1) miloninja - Galaxy Girl (3) Snark Knight - thewebinator, zaclord, Codex (1) Zedd - Albie (1) BackwoodsBarbie - gravey (1) thewebinator - Snark Knight NO VOTE:
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 10, 2017 19:51:36 GMT -5
Lol too many people are agreeing that I'm scummy. This should be a massive red flag but this is Pulse so. I mean, I have votes from Webi, Zac and Codex. Galaxy Girl, Barbie and Gravey have also stated me as a scum lean. Albie even seems to be swayed to suspect me. The question marks are Zedd (whom I don't believe has posted a stance on me D3) and Milo, who raises another question for me where they've declared I lean Town yet they're hitting the like button on posts made against me...? 7 out of 10 people agreeing on the same person being scum is too high. Now, that said. Here's where I stand on people: Albie: Town Cop. No duh. Codex: Town. I've tried to think of ways his Doc/Deputy plan re: protecting Albie could be a scum plot in disguise and I don't see it. If done properly then the only way it could be thwarted is if Mafia attempted to NK them instead of Albie, which they can't really afford for every day they let Albie live to potentially catch them out. I don't think Scumdex would have suggested it because the strategy itself is sound, and the Mafia wouldn't want to give Town a tool that would make scum's job more difficult. Galaxy Girl: Town/Null. I don't get the thing about me or Albie 'trying to get people to play/vote their way'. Albie obviously goes without saying; he HAD the information to lead us to a guaranteed hit, so of course he needed to make an effort to get people to go along with him. IDK what's making her think I'm trying to direct people what to do. Is it tagging inactive people to contribute? There is a difference between nudging people to be involved at all in gameplay and trying to browbeat people into falling in line. I could chalk this up to being new to the game. Zedd: Town/Null. I did think there was something more to Zedd because of that one post where he mentioned not wanting to name any names, but by his own admittance he was actually talking about Norm so I've had to abandon any thoughts I had about his role. Despite this I still believe him to be Town. Gravey: Null. I have no scum vibes but I feel like he's just a little bit unaware of proceedings so I can't quite make a call either way. Gun to my head I might say slight[/I] Town lean. Barbie: Null. Maybe a little more aware of what's going on than Gravey, but still not overly active. I should re-read her posts because nothing's really stuck with me. Miloninja: Scummy. I did say that on D2 (and I DID SAY that was just my read as of that day) I had deemed Milo as Town and wasn't pursuing that avenue but as I mentioned in my first paragraph I have questions. For me things don't quite seem to be lining up so I'm tossing out my Town read and bumping Milo up toward the other end of the spectrum. Zac/Webi: Scummy. I see your works of fiction painting me as scummy, and I know full well I've walked into someone's trap. The only question I have here, is who's? You both could be part of the scum team, or one of you is stringing the other along. Webi, I did say initially you were a wildcard, and people are prepared to listen to you so it doesn't seem that farfetched that thescuminator could put together a 'compelling' case to kickstart a mislynch wagon. And if you're both on the same team you could discuss in your scum chat how to build a case between the two of you that wouldn't look like one piggybacking on the other.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 10, 2017 20:01:00 GMT -5
We are all over the place y'all. For those that are the only one on someone, please convince the rest of us why we should pay attention to that vote. If no one else is suspicious of the one person you're suspicious of now, then tell us who your second choice is. There's still two mafia, so fight for your second choice too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:02:39 GMT -5
We are all over the place y'all. For those that are the only one on someone, please convince the rest of us why we should pay attention to that vote. If no one else is suspicious of the one person you're suspicious of now, then tell us who your second choice is. There's still two mafia, so fight for your second choice too. I already have done it and explained why I think that Backwood is a member of Mafia. But no one else seems to agree. :(
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 10, 2017 20:02:56 GMT -5
^ With that in mind, I don't see a wagon against you or Webi forming this Day phase, so I guess next in line would have to be Vote: Miloninja
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 10, 2017 20:03:19 GMT -5
(by 'you' I mean Zaclord)
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 20:11:48 GMT -5
Me voting for things in just natural, btw. i don't necessarily agree with what's said.
Also, saying someone is close to being ridden off as town (If that was only on that day, why make such a definitive statement?), and then swapping it to the other end with no actual information.
And if people seem to all agree you're scummy...
Maybe it's because they believe you are scummy??? Instead of directly thinking you are being targeted by more people than there are mafia, maybe consider why they think you are mafia?
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Oct 10, 2017 20:22:30 GMT -5
Vote Update Day Three ends Wednesday Oct 11th at 11pm EST
to have a majority vote 6 people must vote for the same person and keep their vote active until the deadline!
VOTES (if I miss anything please let me know):(1) Galaxy Girl - miloninja (2) gravey - BackwoodsBarbie, Zedd (2) miloninja - Galaxy Girl, Snark Knight (3) Snark Knight - thewebinator, zaclord, Codex (1) Zedd - Albie (1) BackwoodsBarbie - gravey NO VOTE:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:23:55 GMT -5
Mylo13 💜 why do you still have your vote on Galaxy Girl?
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 20:24:56 GMT -5
Mylo13 💜 why do you still have your vote on Galaxy Girl? Because no one else is more suspicious to me yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:25:49 GMT -5
Mylo13 💜 why do you still have your vote on Galaxy Girl? Because no one else is more suspicious to me yet. Even with normusic who turned out to be Mafia who was trying to get her lynched badly????
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 20:36:24 GMT -5
Because no one else is more suspicious to me yet. Even with normusic who turned out to be Mafia who was trying to get her lynched badly???? ... I voted for her. It's a new day.
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Post by matteeeb on Oct 10, 2017 20:37:38 GMT -5
Hi matteeeb , since Galaxy Girl revealed who she was talking about (Albie/Snark Knight) in her post similar to yours and it's already D3, would you now please elaborate what you meant by the red text? You haven't posted much today and your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Az Paynter , what is the current state of your leans outside of myself? You haven't listed any real thoughts on players D3 other than being against Codex's protective roles plan and voting for me. It was Normusic. I can explain more in detail in a few hours. I figured nobody would guess my vote would be the person I was referring too. It was odd how he was always defending himself when he only got a few votes, it screamed scum to me and im glad you guys saw that. I will check back in in about 4 hours to see where all the votes are, I likely won't be online in the morning so consider my vote in 4 hours to be final. Looks like nobody is going to get lynched though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:38:40 GMT -5
Even with normusic who turned out to be Mafia who was trying to get her lynched badly???? ... I voted for her. It's a new day. So you did not think that the previous day factor of Norm voting and trying to get her lynched nonstop affects if she is Town or Maf? All this makes me believe that she is Town and not Maf. I mean it could happen, but I doubt that norm would have tried to aggressively get Anna lynched if she was Maf. Idk.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 10, 2017 20:53:08 GMT -5
K town let's get it together. Looks like we have Az, miloninja, or gravey as options to lynch. If you're not voting for one of them right now, please choose your next best option so we can actually get one step closer to beating mafia. Miloninja and gravey aren't being much help at all, so I could be convinced to lynch one of them, but Az is still my biggest suspect. If you're not suspicious of him, please give me more reason why!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 20:56:17 GMT -5
K town let's get it together. Looks like we have Az, miloninja, or gravey as options to lynch. If you're not voting for one of them right now, please choose your next best option so we can actually get one step closer to beating mafia. Miloninja and gravey aren't being much help at all, so I could be convinced to lynch one of them, but Az is still my biggest suspect. If you're not suspicious of him, please give me more reason why! Because of the deaths of Kunt and Max. Az knows both of them well and he is experienced, so I feel like he could be a Mafia member. And everything else Albie said about him, I agree. I will wait for tomorrow morning to see how the votes go and see what else he or others have to say, and if Backwood isnt getting any other votes, then I could switch to Az.
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Post by Albie on Oct 10, 2017 21:17:14 GMT -5
Hi guys. Wow just skimming the thread but it doesn't look good today. We don't seem to be able to come to an agreement and I know that I have anything but contributed to that. I'm sorry. My days at work right now are bogged down with actual work and I'm going through something right now personally where my evenings are spent unfortunately focusing on that. I promise I will dive into this tomorrow and get as much discussion going as possible. I truly have only skimmed today so I have nothing new to offer at the moment. But being that we're almost 24 hours out I thought I should at least check in. I promise you will hear from me tomorrow.
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Post by Web on Oct 10, 2017 21:38:10 GMT -5
It was Normusic. I can explain more in detail in a few hours. I figured nobody would guess my vote would be the person I was referring too. It was odd how he was always defending himself when he only got a few votes, it screamed scum to me and im glad you guys saw that. I will check back in in about 4 hours to see where all the votes are, I likely won't be online in the morning so consider my vote in 4 hours to be final. Looks like nobody is going to get lynched though. why do you think no one is getting lynched? We have just over 24 hours left, not 4, but that's still a pretty solid amount of time for people to change votes, especially when we only need 6 to lynch today. If you live in Canada your morning is the same as my morning, so you still have an entire day after the morning to at the very least pop in and change your vote. You haven't said anything about the Snark Knight case on D3, you've only talked about the case against gravey and revealed your normusic suspicions from D2. What do you think about Snark Knight considering the large amount of information that other posters (including myself) have brought against him? You haven't stated many of your opinions on other players so it is worrying to me that you are ready to check out for the rest of the day phase without helping out town by stating your leans and thoughts.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 22:10:31 GMT -5
... I voted for her. It's a new day. So you did not think that the previous day factor of Norm voting and trying to get her lynched nonstop affects if she is Town or Maf? All this makes me believe that she is Town and not Maf. I mean it could happen, but I doubt that norm would have tried to aggressively get Anna lynched if she was Maf. Idk. Sorry, I got messed up. I thought you meant that i hadn't voted for norm at all, but you actually meant to say that normusic found galaxy suspicious, which could mean that galaxy is safe. To that, I have one line that normusic stated after being caught. "I just wanted to pretend I was town, 100%". (Paraphrased) Obviously that could just be a lie, but if it's true he would have simply focused on who was the most suspicious, regardless of affiliation. However, my vote will become wasted from lack of agreement, so i have to move to another person. As I know I'm town, I won't vote for myself. Gravey isn't too helpful, but he hasn't really ever done something suspicious aside from clearing normusic. Snark Knight has continuously gotten more suspicious to me. At first, he was just snarky. Now... he seems to be overshooting defensiveness. Not to mention, he also completely cleared normusic, which links the two big voted people (Aside from me). For now, my vote is on Snark, but it isn't concrete. Vote: Snark Knight
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Post by Web on Oct 10, 2017 22:10:52 GMT -5
Also, saying someone is close to being ridden off as town (If that was only on that day, why make such a definitive statement?), and then swapping it to the other end with no actual information. And if people seem to all agree you're scummy... Maybe it's because they believe you are scummy??? Instead of directly thinking you are being targeted by more people than there are mafia, maybe consider why they think you are mafia? I completely agree with this post. The "everyone thinks I'm scummy, that means I'm not scummy" argument holds a lot more weight earlier in the game when there are more mafia members around. It's hard to lynch mafia in the beginning of the game, mafia can most likely gently push wagons away from scumbuddies and get a somewhat safe mislynch with a newbie/inactive player on D1. This game was a bit different with the traitor but the logic generally applies across games. But it's 8 town v 2 mafia at the moment, so assuming Snark Knight is mafia, there is only one other player (out of 9!) who would want him to be protected from a lynch. If he's mafia being scummy it kind of makes sense that most people suspect him of being scummy. Beyond that, when mafia numbers are low mafia aren't working as a unit during the day, they want to distance themselves from each other so town is confused on who to go for next. If I were a mafia partner with Snark Knight, I wouldn't want to be seen as his defender as that would draw a direct connection between us and lead to pressure on me the next day. I'd probably be sitting in the "scum lean but not my #1 suspect" or "neutral lean" category. No lynching is not an option at this point, we need to come to an agreement. It's not MYLO (mislynch and lose) and it's a huge informational loss to town if we don't find out a player's affiliation today after four days of discussion. If mafia block Albie again and the night kill is blocked we'll be treading water with the same information that we have now. I'm off for the night, but I'll be on for most of tomorrow to answer any questions. Everyone needs to be active in this last 24 hour period.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 10, 2017 22:18:01 GMT -5
^Agreed with this, but mafia cannot block Albie again as castle confirmed last page. But still, your point stands that we could find out very little information if we don't lynch someone
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Oct 10, 2017 23:01:47 GMT -5
So Albie would be best to search someone out of me, Snark, and gravey. Assuming one of us get voted off (At this point it seems to be Snark), then you'd want to search someone else. I would obviously say gravey, but I guess it's up to Albie.
Also, I think that mafia are likely to target either thewebinator or Albie. But, as they both may be protected, maybe they'll go for someone like Backwoods or Zaclord? It's hard to tell who they consider 'most town seeming, but not likely to get saved'.
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