Billboard Hot 100: 10/21/2017

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Tuesday, October 10, 2017

AN OPEN LETTER TO JOHN AMATO

Dear Mr. President Amato:

We all know the Bible has two assets: its charts and its cover. Other than that, it's basically a throwaway that nobody cares about. So why are you headed down a path to devaluating your most important asset? Increasing the influence of YouTube on your charts would do just that.

Neither Billboard nor YouTube is in the music business. YouTube says music is a small part of its ecosystem and claims it pays a reasonable price for its use, which is patently absurd. To see you teaming up with such an entity to make decisions that will be hugely counterproductive for the music business is dismaying, to say the least.

Making YouTube more important to artists by increasing its chart influence is simply reckless—not merely because they don’t pay, but also because they say 80% of their views come from what they push to their users. Which begs the question: Do you really want Lyor and his team to have that kind of marketing pull? Do you want to give them that kind of firepower?

Currently the Hot 100 is determined by dividing sales by six, BDS “audience impressions” by 7k, on-demand streaming by 1.25k and radio streaming by 2.5k. A download now equals 1,167 audience impressions, 208 on-demand streams and 416 radio streams. That’s tortuous enough; now, inexplicably, the Bible team is apparently considering giving YouTube more weight as it recalculates how to weigh paid and ad-supported streams, radio and sales.

Why not just dump the Tube, given that they are unregulated, easily manipulated, open to massive fraud and a major bone of contention to the music business? Isn’t it time to be part of the solution? Give your music partners some help in their struggle against LyorTube. Why further sink the reputation of your business, which is already widely seen as a probem? You have the opportunity here to listen to your constituents and be the good guy. Why not take it?

The alternative, for the Bible, is grim. The industry is now seriously considering making its own chart, as is done in the U.K., and getting out of business with you. Tick tock.

[forg]

Looks like this is the final week for Redbone, great run

[Deleted]

Oct 10, 2017 18:24:03 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Only 4 of the top ten songs at radio are top ten on the Hot 100 (and not even the number one radio hit). Radio is dead.

Radio is dead and sales have pretty much died, too (just see the comment above for proof). Streaming truly is the future of music; no wonders it's worth about half of the Hot 100's formula now.

[CF15]

Oct 10, 2017 18:34:55 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

Oct 10, 2017 13:18:06 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

What do the top ten best selling (digital) songs look like this year (rounded)?

From oldbloke:

SONG SALES WEEK 39 - 10/14 Billboard charts

songs selling over 2,000,000 - this year - 2 / last year - 3
songs selling over 1,000,000 - this year - 10 / last year - 26
songs selling over 500,000 - this year - 46 / last year - 77

Rank - Estimated Sales - TITLE - Artist ( Estimated Total Sales )

01 - 2,482,000 - DESPACITO - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber ( 2,482,000 )
02 - 2,396,000 - SHAPE OF YOU - Ed Sheeran ( 2,396,000 )
03 - 1,680,000 - BODY LIKE A BACK ROAD - Sam Hunt ( 1,680,000 )
04 - 1,595,000 - THAT'S WHAT I LIKE - Bruno Mars ( 1,625,000 )
05 - 1,362,000 - BELIEVER - Imagine Dragons ( 1,362,000 )
06 - 1,241,000 - SOMETHING JUST LIKE THIS - The Chainsmokers & Coldplay ( 1,241,000 )
07 - 1,115,000 - SAY YOU WON'T LET GO - James Arthur ( 1,244,000 )
08 - 1,084,000 - I DON'T WANNA LIVE FOREVER (FIFTY SHADES DARKER) - Zayn / Taylor Swift ( 1,373,000 )
09 - 1,052,000 - I'M THE ONE - DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber/Quavo/Chance The Rapper/Lil Wayne ( 1,052,000 )
10 - 1,022,000 - ISSUES - Julia Michaels ( 1,022,000 )
11 - 958,000 - HUMBLE. - Kendrick Lamar ( 958,000 )
12 - 891,000 - 24K MAGIC - Bruno Mars ( 1,722,000 )
13 - 880,000 - CONGRATULATIONS - Post Malone feat. Quavo ( 890,000 )
14 - 879,000 - STAY - Zedd & Alessia Cara ( 879,000 )
15 - 877,000 - SLOW HANDS - Niall Horan ( 877,000 )
16 - 821,000 - CASTLE ON THE HILL - Ed Sheeran ( 821,000 )
17 - 810,000 - ISPY - KYLE feat. Lil Yachty ( 831,000 )
18 - 805,000 - IT AIN'T ME - Kygo x Selena Gomez ( 805,000 )
19 - 789,000 - ROCKABYE - Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul & Anne-Marie ( 829,000 )
20 - 785,000 - THERE'S NOTHING HOLDIN' ME BACK - Shawn Mendes ( 785,000 )
21 - 783,000 - I FEEL IT COMING - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk ( 888,000 )
22 - 763,000 - IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW - Brett Young ( 919,000 )
23 - 741,000 - MILLION REASONS - Lady Gaga ( 1,056,000 )
24 - 738,000 - ATTENTION - Charlie Puth ( 738,000 )
25 - 736,000 - BAD AND BOUJEE - Migos feat. Lil Uzi Vert ( 957,000 )

26 - 694,000 - PARIS - The Chainsmokers ( 694,000 )
27 - 678,000 - CAN'T STOP THE FEELING - Justin Timberlake ( 3,173,000 )
28 - 659,000 - LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO - Taylor Swift ( 659,000 )
29 - 655,000 - THE FIGHTER - Keith Urban feat. Carrie Underwood ( 792,000 )
30 - 643,000 - STRIP THAT DOWN - Liam Payne feat. Quavo ( 643,000 )
31 - 643,000 - LOVE ON THE BRAIN - Rihanna ( 1,043,000 )
32 - 631,000 - REDBONE - Childish Gambino ( 660,000 )
33 - 626,000 - MASK OFF - Future ( 626,000 )
34 - 613,000 - HOW FAR I'LL GO - Auli'i Cravalho ( 739,000 )
35 - 609,000 - MERCY - Shawn Mendes ( 969,000 )
36 - 608,000 - CLOSER - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey ( 2,876,000 )
37 - 590,000 - CHAINED TO THE RHYTHM - Katy Perry feat. Skip Marley ( 590,000 )
38 - 572,000 - PLAY THAT SONG - Train ( 766,000 )
39 - 567,000 - SIGN OF THE TIMES - Harry Styles ( 567,000 )
40 - 567,000 - DOWN - Marian Hill ( 574,000 )
41 - 558,000 - WILD THOUGHTS - DJ Khaled feat. Rihanna & Bryson Tiller ( 558,000 )
42 - 553,000 - LOCATION - Khalid ( 565,000 )
43 - 532,000 - MALIBU - Miley Cyrus ( 532,000 )
44 - 527,000 - UNFORGETTABLE - French Montana feat. Swae Lee ( 527,000 )
45 - 524,000 - BAD THINGS - Machine Gun Kelly x Camila Cabello ( 887,000 )
46 - 505,000 - DIRT ON MY BOOTS - Jon Pardi ( 698,000 )
47 - 480,000 - HURRICANE - Luke Combs ( 614,000 )
48 - 477,000 - NOW OR NEVER - Halsey ( 477,000 )
49 - 474,000 - COLD - Maroon 5 feat. Future ( 474,000 )
50 - 469,000 - FEEL IT STILL - Portugal. The Man ( 469,000 )

I find it funny how "Bodak Yellow" isn't even in the top 50, lol.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Thanks areyoureadytojump!

[Glove Slap]

Cold sold almost 500k? Where was I at? Get that Gold-selling and eventual Platinum-certified underperformer Queen Levine!

[Au$tin]

Oct 10, 2017 17:42:36 GMT -5 flextamcsignals said:

Tom Petty has six consecutive songs on the rock chart between Believer (#11 on the Hot 100) and Wish I Knew You (just fell off from #99), and none of them made the Hot 100. That is bulls**t.

How is it bullshit? Obviously it means none of them had enough points to be top 50.

Also, we can't even assume that they'd even be top 100 since the song they're all above isn't in the top 100 either.

[Gary]

4 songs made the recurrent chart leading with I Won't Back Down at #4. It finished behind 3 songs that have already fallen off the top 50 and this did not make the top 50 itself

[85la]

Oct 10, 2017 18:37:27 GMT -5 areyoureadytojump said:

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Tuesday, October 10, 2017

AN OPEN LETTER TO JOHN AMATO

Dear Mr. President Amato:

We all know the Bible has two assets: its charts and its cover. Other than that, it's basically a throwaway that nobody cares about. So why are you headed down a path to devaluating your most important asset? Increasing the influence of YouTube on your charts would do just that.

Neither Billboard nor YouTube is in the music business. YouTube says music is a small part of its ecosystem and claims it pays a reasonable price for its use, which is patently absurd. To see you teaming up with such an entity to make decisions that will be hugely counterproductive for the music business is dismaying, to say the least.

Making YouTube more important to artists by increasing its chart influence is simply reckless—not merely because they don’t pay, but also because they say 80% of their views come from what they push to their users. Which begs the question: Do you really want Lyor and his team to have that kind of marketing pull? Do you want to give them that kind of firepower?

Currently the Hot 100 is determined by dividing sales by six, BDS “audience impressions” by 7k, on-demand streaming by 1.25k and radio streaming by 2.5k. A download now equals 1,167 audience impressions, 208 on-demand streams and 416 radio streams. That’s tortuous enough; now, inexplicably, the Bible team is apparently considering giving YouTube more weight as it recalculates how to weigh paid and ad-supported streams, radio and sales.

Why not just dump the Tube, given that they are unregulated, easily manipulated, open to massive fraud and a major bone of contention to the music business? Isn’t it time to be part of the solution? Give your music partners some help in their struggle against LyorTube. Why further sink the reputation of your business, which is already widely seen as a probem? You have the opportunity here to listen to your constituents and be the good guy. Why not take it?

The alternative, for the Bible, is grim. The industry is now seriously considering making its own chart, as is done in the U.K., and getting out of business with you. Tick tock.

Hmm, I hardly think they would listen to advice from what they probably see as a crackpot website competitor. The claims also seem oversimplified and grossly exaggerated. The charts aren't just about how much revenue is generated and how it's distributed, but overall popularity and consumption numbers. Interesting about the formula though, I wonder if it's really correct and how they got hold of it?



As for the topic of radio's contribution to the charts, radio definitely isn't dead, it's just the ratio of how it contributes to the formula that has changed. Overall terrestrial audience numbers are about the same or definitely not much lower than their peak, and if you add in radio listenership from internet and streaming-based sources, the idea of radio, regardless of how it's mediated, is actually increasing in popularity.

And as for the question I asked earlier about Attention this week possibly holding the record for lowest-ranking airplay #1 on the Hot 100 (ever since airplay singles could chart in 98), I did some more research on this, and it seems it might actually hold the record. I was thinking some R&B songs from the late 2000's like Lloyd's You or Mary J. Blige's Be Without You, or maybe Don't Wanna Know recently might hold it, but from what I gleaned, they don't (although I didn't actually look through all the chart runs of every single airplay #1 and their corresponding Hot 100 positions, so if someone wants to help me out with that, be my guest!).