Taylor Swift - "Delicate"

[born]

Her second #1 hit on Pop! HAC and AC hold on for a little while longer please!

[rickroller]

Here's to the success of a true organic smash of reputation era - "Delicate".
I followed this jam through its run, since when it almost entered top 50 on pop. That eternal masterpiece deserves so MUCH better than just cute #1 there, but top 10 on Hot 100 for example! #ORGANICNESS #TAYLORSTAYSRELEVANT #MUGS #STREAMDELICATE

[leonagwen]

Congrats on the The Pop #1 Taylor Swift!!! Now it just needs to get in the hot 100 top 10.

[Mylo13 💜]

YAY YAY YAY Congrats Taylor, you earned it!

[Joe1240]

Congrats Taylor on another #1 on Pop Radio!! It was worth the wait but glad it has finally come. Overall her 10#1.

Past Pop #1's for Taylor-
Love Story
You Belong With Me
I Knew You Were Trouble
Shake It Off
Blank Space
Style
Bad Blood
Wildest Dreams
Look What You Made Me Do

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Jul 20, 2018 5:37:05 GMT -5 rickroller said:

Here's to the success of a true organic smash of reputation era - "Delicate".
I followed this jam through its run, since when it almost entered top 50 on pop. That eternal masterpiece deserves so MUCH better than just cute #1 there, but top 10 on Hot 100 for example! #ORGANICNESS #TAYLORSTAYSRELEVANT #MUGS #STREAMDELICATE

The "true organic smash" of the era. LoL Is this to descredit "Look What You Made Me Do" as an organic smash? It was already top five before it recieved a final huge "unnatural" push to #1 on pop radio when people clamored to call payola and cry foul. Otherwise, it is still streaming well considering and has a video with nearly a billion views. People can argue its longevity was poor, sure, but it was a smash, and an organic smash at that (given its sales and streaming numbers, everything considered, are solid and without manipulation). The ONLY thing inorganic about "Look What You Made Me Do" at the end of the day was its final one-week push to #1 the week before it peaked on pop radio EXACTLY like, wait for it, "Delicate". All things considered I just find your statement ironic.

So weird how people used the one-week "scandalous" push of "LWYMMD" to completely discredit its success, while celebrating "Delicate" hitting the top while benefiting from the same exact situation. lol

[Ragin]

Am I the only one amused that the same people touting the power of "the mug" are calling this an "organic" hit?

#wordshavenomeaninganymore

[rickroller]

Jul 20, 2018 5:50:34 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Jul 20, 2018 5:37:05 GMT -5 rickroller said:

Here's to the success of a true organic smash of reputation era - "Delicate".
I followed this jam through its run, since when it almost entered top 50 on pop. That eternal masterpiece deserves so MUCH better than just cute #1 there, but top 10 on Hot 100 for example! #ORGANICNESS #TAYLORSTAYSRELEVANT #MUGS #STREAMDELICATE

The "true organic smash" of the era. LoL Is this to descredit "Look What You Made Me Do" as an organic smash? It was already top five before it recieved a final huge "unnaturl" push to #1 on pop radio that people clamored to call payola and cry foul. Otherwise, it is still streaming well considering and has a video with nearly a billion views. People can argue its longevity was poor,but it was a smash, and an organic smash at that (given its sales and streaming numbers everything considered are solid). The ONLY thing inorganic about "Look What You Made Me Do" was its one-week push to #1 the week before it peaked on pop radio EXACTLY like, wait for it, "Delicate", so I just find your statement ironic. lol

I've counted the weeks LWYMMD and Delicate spent to earn the crown. Like 7 for former and 17 for later. That's the difference between those two: longevity. I'm not discrediting lead only for just being paid out. That's my point.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Jul 20, 2018 5:56:52 GMT -5 rickroller said:

Jul 20, 2018 5:50:34 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

The "true organic smash" of the era. LoL Is this to descredit "Look What You Made Me Do" as an organic smash? It was already top five before it recieved a final huge "unnaturl" push to #1 on pop radio that people clamored to call payola and cry foul. Otherwise, it is still streaming well considering and has a video with nearly a billion views. People can argue its longevity was poor,but it was a smash, and an organic smash at that (given its sales and streaming numbers everything considered are solid). The ONLY thing inorganic about "Look What You Made Me Do" was its one-week push to #1 the week before it peaked on pop radio EXACTLY like, wait for it, "Delicate", so I just find your statement ironic. lol

I've counted the weeks LWYMMD and Delicate spent to earn the crown. Like 7 for former and 17 for later. That's the difference between those two: longevity. I'm not discrediting lead only for just being paid out. That's my point.

You're surprised a lead from an artist of Taylor's stature would take less time to reach the summit than her fourth release following two misfires? It should be no surprise her lead reached the top very quickly. It was always going to charge and thus have less collective weeks than most typical singles. I will give you the collapse FOLLOWING the peak, but it climbing fast shouldn't be a factor in discrediting its legitimacy as an organic hit. Argue the weeks after it peaked, not the seven before to make a better point. Longevity isn't just determined by the rise of a song, but by its peak and its rate of decent following said peak.

[leonagwen]

Jul 20, 2018 5:50:34 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Jul 20, 2018 5:37:05 GMT -5 rickroller said:

Here's to the success of a true organic smash of reputation era - "Delicate".
I followed this jam through its run, since when it almost entered top 50 on pop. That eternal masterpiece deserves so MUCH better than just cute #1 there, but top 10 on Hot 100 for example! #ORGANICNESS #TAYLORSTAYSRELEVANT #MUGS #STREAMDELICATE

The "true organic smash" of the era. LoL Is this to descredit "Look What You Made Me Do" as an organic smash? It was already top five before it recieved a final huge "unnatural" push to #1 on pop radio when people clamored to call payola and cry foul. Otherwise, it is still streaming well considering and has a video with nearly a billion views. People can argue its longevity was poor, sure, but it was a smash, and an organic smash at that (given its sales and streaming numbers, everything considered, are solid and without manipulation). The ONLY thing inorganic about "Look What You Made Me Do" at the end of the day was its final one-week push to #1 the week before it peaked on pop radio EXACTLY like, wait for it, "Delicate". All things considered I just find your statement ironic.

So weird how people used the one-week "scandalous" push of "LWYMMD" to completely discredit its success, while celebrating "Delicate" hitting the top while benefiting from the same exact situation. lol

So your discrediting Delicate hitting #1?

[Ragin]

None of Taylor's songs from this era or any recent era could be considered "organic". Organic hits are few and far between. Although they have made a bit of a comeback in the social media age.

[rickroller]

Jul 20, 2018 6:01:19 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Jul 20, 2018 5:56:52 GMT -5 rickroller said:

I've counted the weeks LWYMMD and Delicate spent to earn the crown. Like 7 for former and 17 for later. That's the difference between those two: longevity. I'm not discrediting lead only for just being paid out. That's my point.

You're surprised a lead from an artist of Taylor's stature would take less time to reach the summit than her fourth release following two misfires? It should be no surprise her lead reached the top very quickly. It was always going to charge and thus have less collective weeks than most typical singles. I will give you the collapse FOLLOWING the peak, but it climbing fast shouldn't be a factor in discrediting its legitimacy as an organic hit.

I'm not very surprised by that fact at all. Anyway, Look had vanished away from the charts (including pop radio) at the speed of light, as fast as it turned out to be a BIG thing. I'm not dismissing its impact. It's just the smash lead single, which was no longer to stay popular among gp, but did a lot of buzz being a lead. That's it.
By praising Delismash, I wanted to say this one past an uphill battle to just sit there "because of" three polarizing themes two of which could never climbed higher than number 9, never ever liked by radio. And even without any payola Delicate actually did it.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Jul 20, 2018 6:16:19 GMT -5 rickroller said:

And even without any payola Delicate actually did it.

Sending incentives (like coffee mugs) or making promises or favors to radio stations IS "payola". People like to believe it is money exchanging hands, but rarely, if ever, is that the case IMO. "Delicate" absolutely earned much of its success on its own merits, but to say it didn't benefit from "payola" in the same way say "Look What You Made Me Do" (and I would argue a lot of big-named singles) did, right down to the final push to #1, is totally innacurate. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it either way, just don't like the hypocrisy of people disparaging one single, while praising the other for a practice they both mutually benefied from (and that has benefited many other recent hits like "Mine" and "No Tears Left To Cry").

Still, as I said earlier, congrats on her second #1 pop hit from Reputation. Not bad for a "slump" era.

[Leo ✔]

Congrats "Payolacate"

[justlurkingaround]

Jun 18, 2018 8:59:51 GMT -5 justlurkingaround said:

You guys don’t love the drama, it loves you. This is clearly going to be #1.

And here’s to my real friends, they don’t care ‘bout the he said she said.

[Ling-Ling]

I mean, we can argue about what an "organic" hit is all we want. But at the end of the day, this song smashing is a way bigger deal and a way bigger feat than "LWYMMD" being a hit. That was the lead single to a freaking Taylor Swift album, the curiosity spins, views, streams and downloads alone would have taken it top 5. Taylor could have released anything as the lead single and it would have done some damage on the charts (and quite frankly, she did release "anything," because that song is still rancid). This is the fourth single after two underperformers and a polarizing first single that came and went super fast. It slowly climbed the charts very much on it's own merit and with very little promo outside of a video and some damn coffee mugs (and seriously, you think DJs are playing a Taylor song because of a mug? Get real). So yeah, this is a more "natural" hit in the fact that it relied more on the sheer quality of the song than being a hyped up lead single that was always going to be big for at least a couple of weeks.

And holy shit, I didn't even realize I created this thread (whoops, I totally would have updated the first post if I knew).

[wavey.]

👀👀 at that jump

[Dylan :)]

Lol, I’m sure most #1s have been pushed to #1 in some way or another by the label, we just don’t notice. This false outrage at Taylor doing it is funny. Anyway, congrats on another #1 hit from this era, Taylor!

[SPRΞΞ]

I knew it was going to be the biggest hit off the album.

[Deleted]

Jul 20, 2018 8:06:58 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Lol, I’m sure most #1s have been pushed to #1 in some way or another by the label, we just don’t notice. This false outrage at Taylor doing it is funny. Anyway, congrats on another #1 hit from this era, Taylor!

Exactly - most are.  Going #1 isn't even the big deal, imo, it's the fact that it became a big hit.  Hard to argue it wasn't organic when there was very little promo (or any?) and it slowly worked it's way into the top 5 at radio and top 20 on the Hot 100.  The label's push to #1 is more than typical.

I'm not even going to read the last couple pages I missed.  It's the same petty stuff that happens all the time - so predictable.  

[g8erboi]

This conversation happens every other week lmao.

YASSS @ DELICATE BEING #1.

[mattcatlover456]

This song is garbage how did it make it to number 1

[Mylo13 💜]

Jul 20, 2018 8:39:54 GMT -5 mattcatlover456 said:

This song is garbage how did it make it to number 1

#Themug  :))

[rickroller]

Jul 20, 2018 8:39:54 GMT -5 mattcatlover456 said:

This song is garbage how did it make it to number 1

Are we chit-chatting about the same song?

[Leo ✔]

"Muglicate"

[austin]

Let's all take a moment to celebrate what was done here.

First, she goes all snake viral video and releases a polarizing single few enjoy, but the curiosity spins and name alone get the buzz out (plus an amazing video). It goes #1 after a payola push.

Then they fumble three promo releases confusing everyone what the second single is.

The second radio single ends up being one of the PROMO singles, which is already charting in the teens from unsolicited play. It then peaks like 3 weeks after being released officially as the single, and an AWFUL, HORRID, STUPID video is released after it has peaked.

They then ship out a "surefire" smash featuring Pop Radio darling Ed Sheeran and an unfortunately terrible collab with Future, and it also stalls short of the summit because it is too hard-sounding for her, and the video again, is AWFUL, HORRID, and STUPID.

Sales begin to plummet (by Taylor Swift standards.)

Then Big Machine spends $2.99 to ship #themug and now we are strutting around Pulse with our cocks out again like it is 1989.



It's a great time to be alive. I can't wait to celebrate #thefrisbee or whatever item we get for the next single.

[Mayman]

#07 - Teardrops On My Guitar
#19 - Our Song
#01 - Love Story
#01 - You Belong With Me
#12 - Fifteen
#07 - Two Is Better Than One
#19 - Today Was A Fairytale
#22 - Half Of My Heart
#11 - Mine
#12 - Back To December
#21 - The Story of Us
#20 - Eyes Open
#22 - Both of Us
#02 - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
#01 - I Knew You Were Trouble
#10 - 22
#13 - Everything Has Changed
#01 - Shake It Off
#01 - Blank Space
#01 - Style
#01 - Bad Blood
#01 - Wildest Dreams
#13 - Out Of The Woods
#16 - New Romantics
#02 - I Don't Wanna Live Forever
#01 - Look What You Made Me Do
#11 - ...Ready For It?
#45 - Gorgeous
#10 - End Game
#01 - Delicate

[cjay]

Yay! This song deserves #1. I'm glad my #3 peak prediction was wrong. But I will say that was a warp speed rise to #1 from #5.

[blanksnake17]

It holds in the 160s on spotify!

[g8erboi]

I can see this pulling a Scars To Your Beautiful, where it gets sucked into the top 10 (mostly from airplay points) and stays there for a few weeks before dropping.