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Hello and welcome to: On the eve of Sercies' final day in New York City, his friend Adam, the only competent planner and honorary "I've lived here a year now so I'm a local" has decided to take everyone to the Rosemont in Brooklyn for a gay fundraiser for "Change". Gay in the actually gay way, not the offensive Hillary Duff 2010 commercial way. Not one to turn down a good time, Sercies is affirmatively down. As the night progresses, however, it becomes increasingly apparent to our hero that this place is an absolute shitshow and sobriety is not an option. But WAIT! Some evil fuckshits are out to ruin his good time! It's up to you, the PEOPLE, to make sure that he can successfully finish his third Long Island, or at least make it through Carly Rae Jepsen's 'Fever', conscious and not over it.
Sercies' Sobriety, Independent Jester has been found dead at the door.
Sercies' Financial Security, Independent Myth died years ago, but that's another story.
RULES AND EXPLANATIONS:
1) Please enjoy this game and do not act in a manner that would make the game unenjoyable for others. 2) The Game Moderator is @touch (Sercies) and all official information and rulings will come directly from the Game Moderator. Any appointed Co-Moderators by the Game Moderator may do so as well (Moderator's note: there are no Co-Moderators at this time). 3) Editing and Deleting your posts is not allowed, and multi-posting is instead encouraged in its place. Liking and Quoting posts is permitted as long as a player has not been removed from the game. 4) If you are allowed to communicate with another player outside of this thread, please follow the communication instructions within your role PM. 5) Do not quote role PMs or any other form of communication with the Game Moderator unless your role PM explicitly states that you can. You may paraphrase your role PM as you see fit, but keep everything in your own words. 6) All votes must follow the format of "Vote: NAME". You may change your vote at any time, for any reason, throughout the day phase unless otherwise stated in your role PM. 7) You are not required to unvote to change your vote. However, if you do, then please follow the format of "Unvote: NAME". 8) No Lynch is a valid vote target. 9) A lynch will occur when a majority of votes has been reached, triggering Twilight Phase. Once a majority vote has been reached, votes may not be changed. 10) If a majority has not been reached by Deadline, then No Lynch is forced as the lynch target. 11) Deadline for the Day Phase will equal a time of four days. 12) Deadline for the Night Phase will equal a time of one day. 13) During any Day Phase, a player may perform the command "Request: Deadline Extension". The deadline will be extended by two days only if a majority vote is reached before deadline. 15) Twilight Phase will occur between Day Phase and Night Phase for a variable period. All living players, including those who have been lynched, will be allowed to communicate in thread until a death scene is posted. Any changes in voting made during Twilight Phase will be disregarded. 16) After your death, you are no longer allowed to post in the game thread or like any posts unless your role PM states otherwise. 17) You are expected to maintain a healthy level of activity in this game. If you expect to have a pre-planned absence, then please notify the game mod ahead of time and you will not be prodded. However if your absence is for an unreasonable amount of time, you may be forcibly replaced regardless of any prior agreement. You will receive a prod every 24 hour period you do not post without note of Vacation/Limited Access. If you go for a period of 72 hours without posting or acknowledging prods, you will be replaced or modkilled at the moderator’s discretion. The 3 day grace period will be shortened by 1 day, to a minimum of 1 day, for every 2 prods you receive. 18) Please avoid using HTML and coloured font in your posts. All colours used in this post are strictly forbidden for use as they are the colours the game moderator will be using. 19) You may ask questions to the game moderator using the command: "@moderator: QUESTION". You may also tag the moderator (@touch, @touch ) directly. 20) Please do not post in code or hidden text. 21) You may not post screenshots or anything resembling a screenshot until the game is completed. 22) You may not directly quote logs of communication with other players if your role PM allows you to communicate with other players outside of this thread. You are free to paraphrase, however. 23) If you have an issue with any of these rules you may privately appeal for a rule's removal via PM. 24) You may privately notify me via PM if you feel another player has violated any rule. 25) Any and all technical data (including PM ID#, Time Sent, View Count, etc...) is considering private information and cannot be quoted or referenced. Post ID#s for posts made in the game thread are public and can be referenced, however. 26) The game mod will create QuickTopics for all communication purposes (for any roles that allow discussion outside of the thread). When you are killed, you may no longer post in these discussions; however you will be given access to a Green Room QuickTopic where you will be able to talk with other dead players (unless otherwise noted in your role PM) 27) Activity outside of the game thread, including login times and dates, is considered private information and may not be discussed in thread. Any references to a player's activity outside of the game thread is a warnable offense. 28) Failure to adhere to any rules herein will result in replacement or modkill based on the moderator's discretion, unless a rule has been modified or removed. Any and all changes to the ruleset will be made in public updates to the game thread.
SETUP AND PLAYERS:
This is an OPEN SETUP for 9 players, designed after the Twin Trap setup as approved by the team at mafiascum. As such, I can confirm the following roles are present in this setup: 1 Town Watcher (The Watcher will see any players who visit a player they target during the Night Phase.) 1 Town Tracker (The Tracker will see when the player they target visits another player during the Night Phase, as well as who they visited.) 5 Vanilla Townies (Vanilla Townies only have their voice and their vote.) 1 Watch-Immune Mafia (The Watch-Immune Mafia is immune to appearing on The Watcher's nightly report.) 1 Track-Immune Mafia (The Track-Immune Mafia is immune to appearing on The Tracker's nightly report.) I can confirm that all roles were determined at random.I can confirm that all flavors were determined at random, and do not relate to a player's role or alignment. I can confirm that the mafia were not provided safe claim roles.I can confirm that all information relayed to players in their Role PM and the Game Thread is accurate. I can confirm that the above list of roles present in the game is accurate and complete.Players:
1. greentoo 2. Myloninja13 (Lynched Day 2) 3. Libra 4. Sambalada 5. @antigonerising 6. Albie (Killed Night 1) 7. BackwoodsBarbie (Lynched Day 1)8. Coco (Lynched Day 3) 9. Surfboardt (Killed Night 2) SAMPLE ROLE PMs:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 23:59:01 GMT -5
It is now Night 0. Deadline has been set for 01/08/2018 at 11:59 PM EST
Not Voting: greentoo, myloninja13, Libra, Sambalada, Cynthia, Albie, BackwoodsBarbie, Coco, Surf
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#mod: you may not post in the thread until Day 1 begins.
Edit: #mod: an error in the opening post regarding the Tracker's abilities has been corrected. If any other errors are present, please contact me using your Role PM.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 10:35:15 GMT -5
#mod: Everyone has checked in. The game will begin on schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 0:00:46 GMT -5
The time is 11:59 EST, and the hero of this epic has just acquired his first Long Island of the night. His endorphins are surging as the voice of the greatest black female entertainer of our generation, Ciara, enchants the room. The bar is at peace. He's trying desperately to mime the words to Missy's verse as he's too white to remember.
People are staring, but not because of that. Rather, his dancing looks like an inflatable tube man caught in hurricane Katrina. -- It is now Day 1.Deadline has been set for 01/12/2018 at 11:59 PM ESTNot Voting:greentoo, myloninja13, Libra, Sambalada, Cynthia, Albie, BackwoodsBarbie, Coco, Surf -- #mod: as a reminder, unlike some recent games, the day phase will automatically resolve once a majority is reached and that player will be lynched unless an action would otherwise prevent this* (refer to rule 9 here). The deadline will be ignored, thus triggering the following Night phase early. Once this has occurred, all votes or unvotes made after the final vote will also be ignored. This will henceforth be referred to as a "Hammer Policy".
*I can confirm that no such actions exist in this setup.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 0:48:45 GMT -5
#rolltide everyone!
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 9, 2018 1:13:06 GMT -5
Hello guys! I'm pumped and ready for my third game!
I'll have a post in maybe ten minutes or more discussing my thoughts on the set-up, but for now I'll do an RVS vote just to get things started.
Vote: Myloninja13 because he was scum last game.
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Post by surfy on Jan 9, 2018 1:38:51 GMT -5
HAIIII EVERYONE
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Post by Libra on Jan 9, 2018 2:32:44 GMT -5
I'll have a post in maybe ten minutes or more discussing my thoughts on the set-up Over an hour later. In the meantime tho Vote: CynthiaLike I know her rooting for the Tide hardly comes as a shock but I'm not that convinced that their even being let into the playoff wasn't influenced by a kind of "favored" status as of late, nor am I convinced that their win makes them an undisputed champion. But hey, what do I know? I'm f**king Chapin after all*. *"f**king Chapin" is my flavor role, for those not used to flavor-claiming in this game.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Jan 9, 2018 5:28:07 GMT -5
After reading opening post about 7 times and twin trap wiki page 5 times I think I finally understand basic concept. So the bad guys - Each night just one of them go and kill one of the town players. So even If the town tracker picks the right player to track - Watch-Immune Mafia Goon and this player do nothing on this particular night he will come as innocent (didn't do nothing in the night time) even if he is indeed mafia. So it's very hard to say someone is town even if tracker tracked him and he appeared as innocent. Town Watcher - he can watch any player in the game (even one of the mafia guys - not that this would benefit town in any way) and see who targeted him. Again if the killing is performed by Watch-Immune Mafia Goon Watcher won't see anything. The one thing that I'm a little confused about is if town tracker pick town watcher to track will town tracker get the information that town watcher did something at night? If this is the case that Town tracker not only can make a type 2 error but can also make type 1 error. okay so please correct me if any of my assumption/conclusions are wrong. Vote: Libra Next time you try to start a conversation about football pick the real football and not the American kind. Oh and Patriots are going to win anyway ...
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 9, 2018 6:10:49 GMT -5
After ten minutes of hard thinking, here's my thoughts:
This is a basic set-up (Which obviously isn't a bad thing, the simplest of set-ups can make the best games) which will mean that there should be far more focus on people's actions and words than role involvements.
In fact, there's only two ways that the special roles can effect the game:
1. Watcher/Tracker discovers a mafia member 2. Process of elimination.
For 1, A watcher would have to correctly choose a player that got visited. From that, they'd find out if it were tracker or mafia by the person dying in the morning or someone else dying. If the said person died that night, there would be zero questions that the person is the tracker immune-mafia, who performed the kill.
The tracker has to also correctly choose a player, and if it is the watcher-immune mafia and they perform the kill, they'll also immediately know that person is mafia.
For 2, things become more complicated, but bear with me. Let me provide a hypothetical example:
Night 1: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person B Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person D.
From this one night, we can conclude that Person D can't have been the watch-immune mafia, if he performed the kill.
Night 2: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person D Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person F
From here, you know that person D both didn't kill twice in a row. Let's say that person E was tracker-immune, and he got lynched this turn.
Night 3: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person F Person B is tracker and finds no activity from Person B
From here, you know Person B can't be mafia.
Etc.
Okay, that was confusing. I even confused myself trying to sort that out. Here's some simple advice:
If you are town watcher or tracker, and you claim with both mafia still in, you will almost certainly die that night.
Because if you were watcher, mafia would simply kill you with the tracker-immune mafia. You won't tell your result because you're dead, and the tracker can't see any results. And it happens for tracker too, you'd be killed by the watch-immune mafia member.
This is not to say you shouldn't claim, but you should be careful about it. If there are two mafia in, and you can't be sure one will die by lynching, then you will die by claiming if it's town.
Anyway, overall I do really like this set-up. The lack of doctors mean one person should die every night, unless there's one mafia left and they think their best chance is not killing.
Also, please stop talking about football.
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 9, 2018 9:12:48 GMT -5
The setting is very confusing.
So if the tracker or the watcher investigate someone, they will have different results every night? Damn.
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Post by Albie on Jan 9, 2018 10:11:10 GMT -5
Hi all!
Well damn this is seemingly a simple setup but really its not. I commend the following posters for trying to reason it out but I might be even more confused after reading these posts.
After reading opening post about 7 times and twin trap wiki page 5 times I think I finally understand basic concept. So the bad guys - Each night just one of them go and kill one of the town players. So even If the town tracker picks the right player to track - Watch-Immune Mafia Goon and this player do nothing on this particular night he will come as innocent (didn't do nothing in the night time) even if he is indeed mafia. So it's very hard to say someone is town even if tracker tracked him and he appeared as innocent. Town Watcher - he can watch any player in the game (even one of the mafia guys - not that this would benefit town in any way) and see who targeted him. Again if the killing is performed by Watch-Immune Mafia Goon Watcher won't see anything. The one thing that I'm a little confused about is if town tracker pick town watcher to track will town tracker get the information that town watcher did something at night? If this is the case that Town tracker not only can make a type 2 error but can also make type 1 error. okay so please correct me if any of my assumption/conclusions are wrong. Vote: Libra Next time you try to start a conversation about football pick the real football and not the American kind. Oh and Patriots are going to win anyway ... Does he/she come up as "innocent" or do they get "no result"? Does this actually mean the same thing and I'm just confusing myself already?
Also, great point re: Town tracker tracking the Town watcher. Shit, this will is tricky.
Am I understanding this correctly then: if the Town tracker tracked the Watch-Immune Mafia, they would get a result of who they targeted assuming they targeted anyone at all. And if the Town watcher watched the Track-Immune Mafia, they would get a result of who they targeted assuming they targeted anyone at all? So, ideally the town powers investigate their opposite mafia but that's like impossible to know so...ok. This will be interesting then lol.
After ten minutes of hard thinking, here's my thoughts: This is a basic set-up (Which obviously isn't a bad thing, the simplest of set-ups can make the best games) which will mean that there should be far more focus on people's actions and words than role involvements. In fact, there's only two ways that the special roles can effect the game: 1. Watcher/Tracker discovers a mafia member 2. Process of elimination. For 1, A watcher would have to correctly choose a player that got visited. From that, they'd find out if it were tracker or mafia by the person dying in the morning or someone else dying. If the said person died that night, there would be zero questions that the person is the tracker immune-mafia, who performed the kill.
The tracker has to also correctly choose a player, and if it is the watcher-immune mafia and they perform the kill, they'll also immediately know that person is mafia.For 2, things become more complicated, but bear with me. Let me provide a hypothetical example: Night 1: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person B Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person D. From this one night, we can conclude that Person D can't have been the watch-immune mafia, if he performed the kill. Night 2: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person D Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person F From here, you know that person D both didn't kill twice in a row. Let's say that person E was tracker-immune, and he got lynched this turn. Night 3: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person F Person B is tracker and finds no activity from Person B From here, you know Person B can't be mafia. Etc. Okay, that was confusing. I even confused myself trying to sort that out. Here's some simple advice: If you are town watcher or tracker, and you claim with both mafia still in, you will almost certainly die that night.Because if you were watcher, mafia would simply kill you with the tracker-immune mafia. You won't tell your result because you're dead, and the tracker can't see any results. And it happens for tracker too, you'd be killed by the watch-immune mafia member. This is not to say you shouldn't claim, but you should be careful about it. If there are two mafia in, and you can't be sure one will die by lynching, then you will die by claiming if it's town. Anyway, overall I do really like this set-up. The lack of doctors mean one person should die every night, unless there's one mafia left and they think their best chance is not killing. Also, please stop talking about football. I thought I was getting somewhere after reading Barbie's post but then this one took me back to square one. The bolded part was helpful though and I think I've reached the same conclusion.
One other thing I will say is that this is not a game where claiming is really going to be helpful, at least not until way at the end.
Oh and Vote: Cynthia because how dare you not post a wordwall.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:19:01 GMT -5
The Rosemont Madame has arrived from her sleep *yawn
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Post by Albie on Jan 9, 2018 10:21:40 GMT -5
Vote: Coco for picking that person for her gif
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:43:10 GMT -5
Vote: Albie for having bad tastes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 10:56:47 GMT -5
Also lol ever since that one game Popstop was a cop and shooting people down one after the other i was introduced to the technical shit like tracker/cop/watcher whatever you call it. My mind never works technical, i go by gut instincts and let people fuck themselves over. Watch habits, and interrogate folks till they crack like real life.
so 9 people, i assume either 6 town, 3 mafia or 7 town, 2 mafia but do we think there are independents or is that not a thing anymore?
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Jan 9, 2018 11:14:57 GMT -5
Hi all!
Well damn this is seemingly a simple setup but really its not. I commend the following posters for trying to reason it out but I might be even more confused after reading these posts.
After reading opening post about 7 times and twin trap wiki page 5 times I think I finally understand basic concept. So the bad guys - Each night just one of them go and kill one of the town players. So even If the town tracker picks the right player to track - Watch-Immune Mafia Goon and this player do nothing on this particular night he will come as innocent (didn't do nothing in the night time) even if he is indeed mafia. So it's very hard to say someone is town even if tracker tracked him and he appeared as innocent. Town Watcher - he can watch any player in the game (even one of the mafia guys - not that this would benefit town in any way) and see who targeted him. Again if the killing is performed by Watch-Immune Mafia Goon Watcher won't see anything. The one thing that I'm a little confused about is if town tracker pick town watcher to track will town tracker get the information that town watcher did something at night? If this is the case that Town tracker not only can make a type 2 error but can also make type 1 error. okay so please correct me if any of my assumption/conclusions are wrong. Vote: Libra Next time you try to start a conversation about football pick the real football and not the American kind. Oh and Patriots are going to win anyway ... Does he/she come up as "innocent" or do they get "no result"? Does this actually mean the same thing and I'm just confusing myself already?
Also, great point re: Town tracker tracking the Town watcher. s**t, this will is tricky.
Am I understanding this correctly then: if the Town tracker tracked the Watch-Immune Mafia, they would get a result of who they targeted assuming they targeted anyone at all. And if the Town watcher watched the Track-Immune Mafia, they would get a result of who they targeted assuming they targeted anyone at all? So, ideally the town powers investigate their opposite mafia but that's like impossible to know so...ok. This will be interesting then lol.
After ten minutes of hard thinking, here's my thoughts: This is a basic set-up (Which obviously isn't a bad thing, the simplest of set-ups can make the best games) which will mean that there should be far more focus on people's actions and words than role involvements. In fact, there's only two ways that the special roles can effect the game: 1. Watcher/Tracker discovers a mafia member 2. Process of elimination. For 1, A watcher would have to correctly choose a player that got visited. From that, they'd find out if it were tracker or mafia by the person dying in the morning or someone else dying. If the said person died that night, there would be zero questions that the person is the tracker immune-mafia, who performed the kill.
The tracker has to also correctly choose a player, and if it is the watcher-immune mafia and they perform the kill, they'll also immediately know that person is mafia.For 2, things become more complicated, but bear with me. Let me provide a hypothetical example: Night 1: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person B Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person D. From this one night, we can conclude that Person D can't have been the watch-immune mafia, if he performed the kill. Night 2: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person D Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person F From here, you know that person D both didn't kill twice in a row. Let's say that person E was tracker-immune, and he got lynched this turn. Night 3: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person F Person B is tracker and finds no activity from Person B From here, you know Person B can't be mafia. Etc. Okay, that was confusing. I even confused myself trying to sort that out. Here's some simple advice: If you are town watcher or tracker, and you claim with both mafia still in, you will almost certainly die that night.Because if you were watcher, mafia would simply kill you with the tracker-immune mafia. You won't tell your result because you're dead, and the tracker can't see any results. And it happens for tracker too, you'd be killed by the watch-immune mafia member. This is not to say you shouldn't claim, but you should be careful about it. If there are two mafia in, and you can't be sure one will die by lynching, then you will die by claiming if it's town. Anyway, overall I do really like this set-up. The lack of doctors mean one person should die every night, unless there's one mafia left and they think their best chance is not killing. Also, please stop talking about football. I thought I was getting somewhere after reading Barbie's post but then this one took me back to square one. The bolded part was helpful though and I think I've reached the same conclusion.
One other thing I will say is that this is not a game where claiming is really going to be helpful, at least not until way at the end.
Oh and Vote: Cynthia because how dare you not post a wordwall.
I think that if town tracker track mafia watcher and watcher is the one who is going to kill someone then town tracker will get the result that mafia watcher was doing something at night + they will also see who the watcher visited (this is the part that I didn't see when i was writting my first post) So because town tracker will know who did mafia watcher-immune visited (It will be the same person who died) there is no way that he would confuse mafia watcher-immune and town-watcher. Because in case town tracker track town watcher the person that will die that night won't be the same that town watcher watched. And Tracker now know that he is watching the town - watcher. What I wrote in my first post is then incorrect ( if town tracker pick town watcher to track will town tracker get the information that town watcher did something at night?)Town watcher pick someone and he see if "that someone" recive visit at night. "That someone" will recive visit at night if 1) town tracker track him - in this case "that someone" stay alive and town watcher know that "that someone" was visited by town tracker. 2) mafia watcher-immune visit him - in this case "that someone" dies and watcher won't know who killed him 3) mafia tracker-immune visit him - in that case "that someone" dies and watcher will know who killed that someone. Unless if it's possible that both mafia player visit someone at night and only one do the killing and the other one do nothing (he just appeared as he was visiting someone). It this case things get even more complicated but I'm not sure if this is even possible.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Jan 9, 2018 11:19:35 GMT -5
Also lol ever since that one game Popstop was a cop and shooting people down one after the other i was introduced to the technical s**t like tracker/cop/watcher whatever you call it. My mind never works technical, i go by gut instincts and let people f**k themselves over. Watch habits, and interrogate folks till they crack like real life. so 9 people, i assume either 6 town, 3 mafia or 7 town, 2 mafia but do we think there are independents or is that not a thing anymore? It's 7 town vs 2 mafia. This is an open set up and if I understand the meaning of this correctly there is no hidden/idependent roles.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 9, 2018 12:09:44 GMT -5
I’m here guys! Don’t really have much to say because this set up is so different from the other one I’ve done. I agree that claiming will be useless here and will end up with you being either killed or lynched by default. It will be so easy for the mafia to hide this game I think. Also, it will be extremely difficult for a mafia to be lynched unless by chance without one of the cops being killed. I understand that I’m not really adding any ideas to the game, I’m just going over it in my mind, plus I have to post here so the mods don’t think I’m inactive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 12:54:37 GMT -5
Hello guys! I'm pumped and ready for my third game! I'll have a post in maybe ten minutes or more discussing my thoughts on the set-up, but for now I'll do an RVS vote just to get things started. Vote: Myloninja13 because he was scum last game. i'm the ONLY one allowed to low key brag hunty!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 12:55:13 GMT -5
vote: Coco for clearly not reading the rules before we started lol
If the tracker targets the watcher, the tracker will find out who the watcher watched. This is where it gets tricky:
1) If the watcher 'watches' the same person that mafia kills that night, the tracker might mistakenly think the watcher is mafia. The tracker will have to tread carefully as charging in the next day with a claim to out a suspected mafia goon might result in a watcher claim instead, outing both of our power roles in the process. If such a scenario happens, I'd advise hanging back for a bit and observing the suspected player in question to see how that person acts the next day. If it seems that their level of suspicion for another player suddenly spikes and becomes more aggressive, there's a chance you tracked a watcher who hit paydirt.
2) The watcher likewise needs to be careful because it is possible for the tracker and the watch-immune goon to target the same person on the same night, and the watcher's results would make it seem as if the tracker is the guilty one when that is not the case. The watcher needs to pay especially close attention to posts and possible ties between posters (or lack thereof) to make the right call if they get a strong lead like this back.
3) With all of that said, if the tracker targets the watcher and whoever was watched is still alive the next day, then that essentially reveals who the watcher is, as there is no protective role in this game. And if the watcher targets someone and gets a result back, but the person watched doesn't die, the watcher will then know who the tracker is. So that is something that should also be kept in mind...once you find the other town power, find subtle ways to pick the other person's brain for thoughts. (If you're the watcher in particular and you accidentally discover the tracker, read back over the tracker's posts as that person will have likely lowkey cleared a person or two. The tracker should be breadcrumbing in case of death.)
4) Probably goes without saying, but just so it's out there, the tracker and watcher need to take different approaches to how they handle their roles - while the tracker should aim for people that seem the most suspect, the watcher should aim for people who seem the *least* suspect/most likely to be nightkill targets.
You know how sometimes you say a word so much it starts to feel like it's not a real word anymore? That is how I feel about 'watch' right now. watch watch watch watch watch watch mumble mumble watch watch watch watch watch watch
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 12:56:50 GMT -5
vote: Coco for clearly not reading the rules before we started lol If the tracker targets the watcher, the tracker will find out who the watcher watched. This is where it gets tricky: 1) If the watcher 'watches' the same person that mafia kills that night, the tracker might mistakenly think the watcher is mafia. The tracker will have to tread carefully as charging in the next day with a claim to out a suspected mafia goon might result in a watcher claim instead, outing both of our power roles in the process. If such a scenario happens, I'd advise hanging back for a bit and observing the suspected player in question to see how that person acts the next day. If it seems that their level of suspicion for another player suddenly spikes and becomes more aggressive, there's a chance you tracked a watcher who hit paydirt. 2) The watcher likewise needs to be careful because it is possible for the tracker and the watch-immune goon to target the same person on the same night, and the watcher's results would make it seem as if the tracker is the guilty one when that is not the case. The watcher needs to pay especially close attention to posts and possible ties between posters (or lack thereof) to make the right call if they get a strong lead like this back. 3) With all of that said, if the tracker targets the watcher and whoever was watched is still alive the next day, then that essentially reveals who the watcher is, as there is no protective role in this game. And if the watcher targets someone and gets a result back, but the person watched doesn't die, the watcher will then know who the tracker is. So that is something that should also be kept in mind...once you find the other town power, find subtle ways to pick the other person's brain for thoughts. (If you're the watcher in particular and you accidentally discover the tracker, read back over the tracker's posts as that person will have likely lowkey cleared a person or two. The tracker should be breadcrumbing in case of death.) 4) Probably goes without saying, but just so it's out there, the tracker and watcher need to take different approaches to how they handle their roles - while the tracker should aim for people that seem the most suspect, the watcher should aim for people who seem the *least* suspect/most likely to be nightkill targets. You know how sometimes you say a word so much it starts to feel like it's not a real word anymore? That is how I feel about 'watch' right now. watch watch watch watch watch watch mumble mumble watch watch watch watch watch watch LOl bitch dont come for lack of paying attention . Youre lucky i even showed up!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 12:59:13 GMT -5
also dead at Cynthia eloquently expressing what I so uneducated said : Read people actions, words, connect the dots and dont get hung up on one or two things and you'll be fine. I was born with the gift of sniffing BS but i lack the ability to pay attention long enough to trust this gift lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 13:02:16 GMT -5
actually no vote: myloninja for openly saying he likes that there's no doc what town player says that
and also because he said to stop talking about football #RTR foreva is u big mad or is u little mad
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Post by Libra on Jan 9, 2018 13:50:07 GMT -5
OK so I need to digest what's been said on this page since the overnight hours, BUT in the meantime
Vote: BackwoodsBarbie for the insinuation that American football is not "real".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 13:59:29 GMT -5
Vote:Libra for being so kind to suggest there is much to digest here
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Post by surfy on Jan 9, 2018 18:04:48 GMT -5
Guys I just got out of class and I have a damn headache from reading this 😂
Vote: BackwoodsBarbie just cause.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 19:13:15 GMT -5
Guys I just got out of class and I have a damn headache from reading this 😂 Vote: BackwoodsBarbie just cause. I have medicines to help with that. Tylenol 3, weed or Percocets? What do you prefer girl!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 19:18:19 GMT -5
Anyways just got home from work, I got food on and drinks on the go. Once I settle in I'll read and as Cynthia dragged me for also read the stupid rules. I didn't become pulse most wanted by reading rules, it usually aggravating and long winded. The only rule should be no rules or rules I like or help create .
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Post by Libra on Jan 9, 2018 21:37:18 GMT -5
You know how sometimes you say a word so much it starts to feel like it's not a real word anymore? That is how I feel about 'watch' right now. watch watch watch watch watch watch mumble mumble watch watch watch watch watch watch Guys I just got out of class and I have a damn headache from reading this 😂 LOL amen to both of these. surfy I'm about to add to your pain by tossing more posts on the pile but for the moment, Vote: Sambalada so he won't feel left out. Actually, Vote: greentoo for the same reason, but no really Vote: Sambalada.
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