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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jun 26, 2018 13:45:08 GMT -5
That also means only 6 awards will be televised because they are already on time constraints  |
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Post by Caviar on Jun 26, 2018 14:41:03 GMT -5
That also means only 6 awards will be televised because they are already on time constraints Praying Ken gets fired next. We need a tv producer who knows what the hell they're doing. He's too damn old for this shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 15:08:33 GMT -5
I'm undecided on how I feel about this. It could be a good thing but it also runs a major risk of favoring 'big' (commercial) artists even more, particularly those with a history of finessing votes.
I can think of 8 albums off the top of my head that I'd pick over reputation for example, but it's hard to imagine a scenario where Taylor didn't squeak into the final list of 8; and once that happens she will need even less votes to pull off a win than she would in a year with only five nominees. Given Taylor's history with the Grammys this makes her a major threat in a year where we shouldn't have been sweating her much.
On the flip side that might make things easier for someone like Kacey (who I don't see having any competition from another country album).
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Not on the same topic, but I wonder if Donald Glover might be out of major category contention with the recent plagiarism accusations.
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Post by when the pawn... on Jun 26, 2018 16:05:10 GMT -5
I approve IF it means more varied nominations. IMO, they should start including smaller-level/indie artists in the top categories and not make it so focused on chart-toppers. This gives them room to do that without blocking Taylor/Beyonce/Adele/Kendrick/etc.
I'm actually OK w/ the blue ribbon panel. Lord knows Ed would have swept Bruno's top awards if he was nominated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 19:23:27 GMT -5
I approve IF it means more varied nominations. IMO, they should start including smaller-level/indie artists in the top categories and not make it so focused on chart-toppers. This gives them room to do that without blocking Taylor/Beyonce/Adele/Kendrick/etc. I'm actually OK w/ the blue ribbon panel. Lord knows Ed would have swept Bruno's top awards if he was nominated. The more I think about it, I am not so sure that is the case? I think Ed would have taken SOTY, but ironically the committee might have avoided AOTY backlash by letting Bruno and Ed knock each other out, as they would have split pop and label support. Bruno would have had some extra r&b votes to pull from and offset this - Gambino being there clearly didn't hurt him and if Gambino is the person who 'took' Ed's spot that's even more r&b votes freed up - and would probably have resonated more with rock fans and engineers/producers who really loved the instrumental work on 24k. But Ed might have taken country fans and maybe been able to work whatever connections Taylor has by proxy. Putting aside which way I think Atlantic would have pulled, Bruno is clearly well-liked and I'd argue more consistently favored overall than Ed is (in the old Grammy thread someone broke down Bruno and Ed's nominations and wins, and Bruno came out ahead), but Ed would have been just enough to affect his margin of victory. Hindsight is 20/20 though; I wouldn't have called it like that this time last year. re: giving more attention to smaller acts, this expansion only works for that if it also means the performer list will expand to allow all nominees to perform. If Ken is just gonna pull another Lorde on somebody, it's infuriatingly pointless. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 20:27:29 GMT -5
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Post by BDGeek on Jun 27, 2018 12:12:51 GMT -5
New ArtistCardi B Bebe Rexha Camila Cabello Dua Lipa Post Malone --- Jorja Smith Margo Price Lauren Alaina Kane Brown Brett Young (Does Shawn Mendes qualify for this?) Do Lauren or Bebe qualify for this? I could maybe see the argument with Bebe since she didn't release her first album until this year. But Lauren's debut was released in 2011 via Interscope and has near Gold sales. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 27, 2018 13:32:23 GMT -5
New ArtistCardi B Bebe Rexha Camila Cabello Dua Lipa Post Malone --- Jorja Smith Margo Price Lauren Alaina Kane Brown Brett Young (Does Shawn Mendes qualify for this?) Do Lauren or Bebe qualify for this? I could maybe see the argument with Bebe since she didn't release her first album until this year. But Lauren's debut was released in 2011 via Interscope and has near Gold sales. I don't think there's any sort of clause in the rules that disqualify her. Similar situation as Alessia Cara last year. Obviously it'd be a little ridiculous, but if she is eligible, I think she'd have a strong shot at getting nominated. |
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Post by BDGeek on Jun 27, 2018 14:00:49 GMT -5
Do Lauren or Bebe qualify for this? I could maybe see the argument with Bebe since she didn't release her first album until this year. But Lauren's debut was released in 2011 via Interscope and has near Gold sales. I don't think there's any sort of clause in the rules that disqualify her. Similar situation as Alessia Cara last year. Obviously it'd be a little ridiculous, but if she is eligible, I think she'd have a strong shot at getting nominated. Gotcha. I wasn't entirely clear on the rules for BNA - it's always been a super zany category to me (Gaga has never been nominated - wtf?). Not mad at the idea of Lauren getting nominated though. "Road Less Traveled" is a bop. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 14:51:59 GMT -5
I don't think there's any sort of clause in the rules that disqualify her. Similar situation as Alessia Cara last year. Obviously it'd be a little ridiculous, but if she is eligible, I think she'd have a strong shot at getting nominated. Gotcha. I wasn't entirely clear on the rules for BNA - it's always been a super zany category to me (Gaga has never been nominated - wtf?). Not mad at the idea of Lauren getting nominated though. "Road Less Traveled" is a bop. They actually changed the rules b/c of the uproar over Gaga not getting nominated, lol. - you may not have won a Grammy before the eligibility period, but you are allowed to have been previously nominated. This is the main rule that had to be changed due to Gaga - she received (and lost) a lone nomination for Just Dance in 2009 when she was just taking off, and then wasn't eligible for BNA the next year when that was the year she really broke through as an artist. - you must have released at least five tracks or one album, but not more than 30 tracks or three albums, before the eligibility period. It is not clear how mixtapes are factored into this or whether someone is disqualified if they have released two 16-track albums. - you may not have submitted your name to the category more than three times before, including as a member of an established group Bebe is in theory eligible but this also assumes her label has not submitted her name three times before. She's been around long enough now that this might be an issue. Camila shouldn't be eligible for the same reason the One Direction boys weren't ("established group" rule), but I can see Epic trying to work a massive loophole if they didn't submit 5H to BNA more than once while Camila was with them, or if they didn't submit Camila to the 2018 awards. Lauren would be a very tricky situation, but she is technically eligible. However I am thinking it's a moot point? AFAIK the only material she released in this eligibility period was her feature on What Ifs. That's more likely to get Kane nominated than Lauren, whose best shot at BNA was for the 2018 show. (I should add that I have no idea what her single situation or airplay for 2018 has been so if she has something going strong this year, that will boost her chances.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 15:54:47 GMT -5
who even *wants* the BNA grammy? no thanks.
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Post by Caviar on Jun 27, 2018 16:23:41 GMT -5
who even *wants* the BNA grammy? no thanks. 500+ artists who submit |
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Post by BDGeek on Jun 27, 2018 16:51:19 GMT -5
Gotcha. I wasn't entirely clear on the rules for BNA - it's always been a super zany category to me (Gaga has never been nominated - wtf?). Not mad at the idea of Lauren getting nominated though. "Road Less Traveled" is a bop. They actually changed the rules b/c of the uproar over Gaga not getting nominated, lol. - you may not have won a Grammy before the eligibility period, but you are allowed to have been previously nominated. This is the main rule that had to be changed due to Gaga - she received (and lost) a lone nomination for Just Dance in 2009 when she was just taking off, and then wasn't eligible for BNA the next year when that was the year she really broke through as an artist. - you must have released at least five tracks or one album, but not more than 30 tracks or three albums, before the eligibility period. It is not clear how mixtapes are factored into this or whether someone is disqualified if they have released two 16-track albums. - you may not have submitted your name to the category more than three times before, including as a member of an established group Bebe is in theory eligible but this also assumes her label has not submitted her name three times before. She's been around long enough now that this might be an issue. Camila shouldn't be eligible for the same reason the One Direction boys weren't ("established group" rule), but I can see Epic trying to work a massive loophole if they didn't submit 5H to BNA more than once while Camila was with them, or if they didn't submit Camila to the 2018 awards. Lauren would be a very tricky situation, but she is technically eligible. However I am thinking it's a moot point? AFAIK the only material she released in this eligibility period was her feature on What Ifs. That's more likely to get Kane nominated than Lauren, whose best shot at BNA was for the 2018 show. (I should add that I have no idea what her single situation or airplay for 2018 has been so if she has something going strong this year, that will boost her chances.) Thanks for the explanation. How many tracks constitute an album by Grammy standards? |
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 27, 2018 16:57:53 GMT -5
They actually changed the rules b/c of the uproar over Gaga not getting nominated, lol. - you may not have won a Grammy before the eligibility period, but you are allowed to have been previously nominated. This is the main rule that had to be changed due to Gaga - she received (and lost) a lone nomination for Just Dance in 2009 when she was just taking off, and then wasn't eligible for BNA the next year when that was the year she really broke through as an artist. - you must have released at least five tracks or one album, but not more than 30 tracks or three albums, before the eligibility period. It is not clear how mixtapes are factored into this or whether someone is disqualified if they have released two 16-track albums. - you may not have submitted your name to the category more than three times before, including as a member of an established group Bebe is in theory eligible but this also assumes her label has not submitted her name three times before. She's been around long enough now that this might be an issue. Camila shouldn't be eligible for the same reason the One Direction boys weren't ("established group" rule), but I can see Epic trying to work a massive loophole if they didn't submit 5H to BNA more than once while Camila was with them, or if they didn't submit Camila to the 2018 awards. Lauren would be a very tricky situation, but she is technically eligible. However I am thinking it's a moot point? AFAIK the only material she released in this eligibility period was her feature on What Ifs. That's more likely to get Kane nominated than Lauren, whose best shot at BNA was for the 2018 show. (I should add that I have no idea what her single situation or airplay for 2018 has been so if she has something going strong this year, that will boost her chances.) Thanks for the explanation. How many tracks constitute an album by Grammy standards? IIRC, as of the 59th Awards in 2017, either ten or twelve. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 27, 2018 17:49:12 GMT -5
It makes sense because a lot of albums are released each year compared to movies and TV shows, no? So, the Grammys having the least amount of nominees meant it was more exclusive compared to the other major awards. Not on the same topic, but I wonder if Donald Glover might be out of major category contention with the recent plagiarism accusations. It didn't keep Lauryn Hill from winning AOTY or Coldplay or Sam Smith from winning SOTY, so I don't think voters care. |
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Post by nickd on Jun 27, 2018 19:38:34 GMT -5
Kk, now I have more thoughts. I think I like this. It may absolutely lead to even more stressful cases of split-voting, but I think allowing more room for more than *maybe* just 1 album from each genre (minus Pop, which usually always took 2 or 3 of the 5 available spots), it almost helps guarantee a presence of all sounds in these categories. With that, my initial thoughts for this year: (With this new change, I think the people listed above the line in each category are all but certain to be nominated.) Album
Dirty Computer, Janelle Monae Invasion of Privacy, Cardi B Golden Hour, Kacey Musgraves reputation, Taylor Swift KOD, J. Cole --- Meaning of Life, Kelly Clarkson Port Saint Joe, Brothers Osborne The Tree of Forgiveness, John Prine LOVE IS EVERYTHING, The Carters Black Panther, Kendrick Lamar / Various Artists Shawn Mendes, Shawn Mendes Beautiful Trauma, P!nk I prefer Charlie Puth's album over Shawn's, do you think he has any kind of chance at an AOTY nom? Aside from Drake (if he submits) - also wondering about Ariana, Panic!, Camilla or even Arctic Monkeys. I don't think Taylor would win with ranked voting but with the voting category they have, who knows, she might squeak by. Not looking forward to the uproar though, I love reputation but I'd prefer if she won a 3rd AOTY with a less polarizing album so that TS7 could benefit from more of a come-back narrative. |
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Post by Zach on Jun 28, 2018 9:02:46 GMT -5
None of this will matter until they get rid of the stupid blue-ribbon panel... And make the whole thing even more of a popularity contest? No thanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 13:40:44 GMT -5
^Well that's the issue. It's a popularity contest that determines which songs are sent to the panel in the first place. The panel decides who the nominees are, and then hand the list right back to the voting public for another popularity contest in the end. The panel ends up making the whole setup look worse in the end b/c they're forever trying to pick the 'right' nominees to create a narrative and make it seem like the awards are something more than what they really are, and more often than not it backfires b/c the voting body at large either doesn't gets the narrative memo or just doesn't care to cooperate; or the panel's attempts are so transparent that it sucks all the oxygen out of the room.
For example, I was looking at the AOTY wiki page the other day and was really struck by 2013. It was Frank Ocean and four rock or alt-leaning acts - a prime opportunity for a critically acclaimed urban album to benefit from vote splitting - and Frank still didn't win. That says probably as much as could possibly be said about how little the majority of voters care about urban albums unless it's a HUGE crossover smash. So fast forward to 2018, when Bruno wins, and it's pretty obvious that they set it up so that they could finally get an r&b album win from a minority and quell previous backlash. But Bruno is the definition of "pop star", and only pulled that win off because of said mainstream appeal and raking in all the pop voters. Not his fault (24K is a great album and he worked his ass off for it) but it was too transparent so people got pissed off.
Either cut the panel out entirely and acknowledge this show for the homecoming king/queen election that it is, or move the panel's decision making to a point in the process where they actually make a difference.
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Post by BDGeek on Jun 28, 2018 15:30:22 GMT -5
^Well that's the issue. It's a popularity contest that determines which songs are sent to the panel in the first place. The panel decides who the nominees are, and then hand the list right back to the voting public for another popularity contest in the end. The panel ends up making the whole setup look worse in the end b/c they're forever trying to pick the 'right' nominees to create a narrative and make it seem like the awards are something more than what they really are, and more often than not it backfires b/c the voting body at large either doesn't gets the narrative memo or just doesn't care to cooperate; or the panel's attempts are so transparent that it sucks all the oxygen out of the room. For example, I was looking at the AOTY wiki page the other day and was really struck by 2013. It was Frank Ocean and four rock or alt-leaning acts - a prime opportunity for a critically acclaimed urban album to benefit from vote splitting - and Frank still didn't win. That says probably as much as could possibly be said about how little the majority of voters care about urban albums unless it's a HUGE crossover smash. So fast forward to 2018, when Bruno wins, and it's pretty obvious that they set it up so that they could finally get an r&b album win from a minority and quell previous backlash. But Bruno is the definition of "pop star", and only pulled that win off because of said mainstream appeal and raking in all the pop voters. Not his fault (24K is a great album and he worked his ass off for it) but it was too transparent so people got pissed off. Either cut the panel out entirely and acknowledge this show for the homecoming king/queen election that it is, or move the panel's decision making to a point in the process where they actually make a difference. Are you campaigning to replace Portnow as Grammy president? Cuz you would slay tbh. |
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Jun 28, 2018 15:52:39 GMT -5
Those changes will only make it easier for Adele and Bruno to come on top, imho... With top5 one look at the noms was enough to know, they will be taking their awards home, with top8 a glance won't be even needed. Both broadly respected, admired, not polarizing, delivering short quality albums with stellar productions and vocals, whenever they drop something. Who can compete with that?!
I'm bemused some od you still keep living in denial thinking Ed is a thread to Bruno on any shape or form. Wake up, because he never won a Grammy against Bruno, and something tells me it won't change anytime soon, if ever because when Sheeran is too busy running in circles, Mars keeps polishing his productions, working with people who helped to shape the music scene through the decades. He's extremely constistent and focused, dedicated to his craft, humble despite his success (unlike Sheeran) Imho, his sweep came from his attitude and the way he carries himself 24k Magic is a fantastic party album, but his sweep was just a matter of time. He had big pull among NARAS since the very begining and it's only expanding:
-he won with JTWYA against Michael Jackson. (2011)
-he won against Justin Timberlake and Lorde with Unorthodox Jukebox (2014)
- he won against them all... Lamar, Gambino, the Weeknd, hot new thing like SZA, Jay-z who could be viewed as legacy act among nominees. (2018)
Imho, it should be beyond obvious by now he's a favorite, Sheeran wouldn't change that, imho.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 16:41:35 GMT -5
^Well that's the issue. It's a popularity contest that determines which songs are sent to the panel in the first place. The panel decides who the nominees are, and then hand the list right back to the voting public for another popularity contest in the end. The panel ends up making the whole setup look worse in the end b/c they're forever trying to pick the 'right' nominees to create a narrative and make it seem like the awards are something more than what they really are, and more often than not it backfires b/c the voting body at large either doesn't gets the narrative memo or just doesn't care to cooperate; or the panel's attempts are so transparent that it sucks all the oxygen out of the room. For example, I was looking at the AOTY wiki page the other day and was really struck by 2013. It was Frank Ocean and four rock or alt-leaning acts - a prime opportunity for a critically acclaimed urban album to benefit from vote splitting - and Frank still didn't win. That says probably as much as could possibly be said about how little the majority of voters care about urban albums unless it's a HUGE crossover smash. So fast forward to 2018, when Bruno wins, and it's pretty obvious that they set it up so that they could finally get an r&b album win from a minority and quell previous backlash. But Bruno is the definition of "pop star", and only pulled that win off because of said mainstream appeal and raking in all the pop voters. Not his fault (24K is a great album and he worked his ass off for it) but it was too transparent so people got pissed off. Either cut the panel out entirely and acknowledge this show for the homecoming king/queen election that it is, or move the panel's decision making to a point in the process where they actually make a difference. Are you campaigning to replace Portnow as Grammy president? Cuz you would slay tbh. If you promise to be my proofreader lol! I'm twitching at all the typos, but that was a drive-by post before I left to run an errand. TBH I want Erlich's job even more. He has got.to.GO. The magic I would work with three hours of primetime television...but yeah, if you give me Portnow's job the award process is getting a major overhaul. My most controversial move would be scrapping Album of the Year entirely and replacing it with Artist of the Year, then pushing the genre album categories to the forefront. (This also serves the necessary function of making sure every genre has at least one award presented on the main stage.) And I'd add a pop songs category, because duh. |
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Post by shayonce on Jun 29, 2018 3:48:06 GMT -5
well. the thing is Grammy started as prestigious award based on quality/progress of music against popularity and chart/sales.
they can't just switch to another VMA or AMA ish show. even tho grammy is not far from them. lol
at least those committee stop the show from 100% popularity contest.
imo the real bold move to make the grammy prestigious would be committee also choose the winner, at least the general which will never happen.
meantime, they should try oscar's best picture voting style. this is how they choose the winner. and nominee seclection is similar.
Each voter ranks the films in order of preference and submits the ballot.
A film needs more than half the votes to win. If no film gets more than half of the No. 1 picks, the nominee with the fewest is thrown out. Those ballots are then given to the remaining nominees according to the voters' No. 2 choice.
Nominees are eliminated, giving votes to the next highest-ranked film on each ballot. When one film obtains more than 50% of the votes, the winner is decided.
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Post by Choco on Jun 29, 2018 9:39:06 GMT -5
Are you campaigning to replace Portnow as Grammy president? Cuz you would slay tbh. If you promise to be my proofreader lol! I'm twitching at all the typos, but that was a drive-by post before I left to run an errand. TBH I want Erlich's job even more. He has got.to.GO. The magic I would work with three hours of primetime television...but yeah, if you give me Portnow's job the award process is getting a major overhaul. My most controversial move would be scrapping Album of the Year entirely and replacing it with Artist of the Year, then pushing the genre album categories to the forefront. (This also serves the necessary function of making sure every genre has at least one award presented on the main stage.) And I'd add a pop songs category, because duh.Ugh, I like your ideas a lot, and I'm kind of pissed already that they are not doing those things. |
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Post by slw84 on Jun 29, 2018 16:21:57 GMT -5
Cardi B has a shot at at least 9 nominations : 3 in the r&B category with finesse.. 3 in the rap category... BNA/Album of the Year/ SOY for Finesse I have this strange suspicion cardi will not only win one but at least 2. A bruno won is a strong shot but I wonder what she can do with Be careful, I like it and possibly Ring before the eligibility period ends Grammy Awards Expand Nominees for Top Album, Song, Record & New Artist From 5 to 8: Exclusive. Recording Academy president Neil Portnow says the changes, which take effect immediately, provide "more flexibility to our voters when having to make the often challenging decisions about representing excellence and the best in music for the year." mess.. lol split game got more serious. unless they make oscar style voting, this is just fail. Exactly...its either going to help the underdog or help the front runner but nothing in between Everyone wins a trophy generation confirmed. Kk, now I have more thoughts. I think I like this. It may absolutely lead to even more stressful cases of split-voting, but I think allowing more room for more than *maybe* just 1 album from each genre (minus Pop, which usually always took 2 or 3 of the 5 available spots), it almost helps guarantee a presence of all sounds in these categories. With that, my initial thoughts for this year: (With this new change, I think the people listed above the line in each category are all but certain to be nominated.) Album
Dirty Computer, Janelle Monae Invasion of Privacy, Cardi B Golden Hour, Kacey Musgraves reputation, Taylor Swift KOD, J. Cole --- Port Saint Joe, Brothers Osborne LOVE IS EVERYTHING, The Carters Black Panther, Kendrick Lamar / Various Artists Beautiful Trauma, P!nk Song"Make Me Feel," Janelle Monae "I Like That," Cardi B "Space Cowboy," Kacey Musgraves "This is America," Childish Gambino "All the Stars," Kendrick/SZA "Delicate," Taylor Swift --- "It Ain't My Fault," Brothers Osborne "The Middle," Zedd feat. Maren Morris & Grey Record"Make Me Feel," Janelle Monae "I Like That," Cardi B "This is America," Childish Gambino "Delicate," Taylor Swift "Meant to Be," Bebe Rexha feat. Florida Georgia Line "Nice For What," Drake "The Middle," Zedd feat. Maren Morris & Grey --- "APESHIT," The Carters "Space Cowboy," Kacey Musgraves "Never Be the Same," Camila Cabello New ArtistCardi B Bebe Rexha Camila Cabello Dua Lipa Post Malone --- Kane Brown Brett Young I'd add JUICE world seems about right. |
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Post by braveheart on Jun 29, 2018 18:46:40 GMT -5
Cardi is gonna have a good year.... regardless of I Like it hitting #1 or not.. she can submit in 3 different genre categories. her chances of a win is high
Pop - Girls Like You
R&B - Finesse
Hip Hop - I Like It/Bartier Cardi/Be Careful
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Post by slw84 on Jun 30, 2018 20:24:50 GMT -5
Cardi is gonna have a good year.... regardless of I Like it hitting #1 or not.. she can submit in 3 different genre categories. her chances of a win is high Pop - Girls Like You R&B - Finesse Hip Hop - I Like It/Bartier Cardi/Be Careful she has a lot of options bartier cardi issa no. The other ones are a yes. I'm thinking her chances from highest to lowest R&B Finesse remix > Girls like you > Be careful > I like it (I can't see it winning even though it's a bop) I think Finesse will win unless someone comes through with a mega R&B smash in the next 3 months. I literally can't think of a mega R&B hit this year as the usuals are even declining in that area. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 2:55:53 GMT -5
Cardi is gonna have a good year.... regardless of I Like it hitting #1 or not.. she can submit in 3 different genre categories. her chances of a win is high Pop - Girls Like You R&B - Finesse Hip Hop - I Like It/Bartier Cardi/Be Careful she has a lot of options bartier cardi issa no. The other ones are a yes. I'm thinking her chances from highest to lowest R&B Finesse remix > Girls like you > Be careful > I like it (I can't see it winning even though it's a bop) I think Finesse will win unless someone comes through with a mega R&B smash in the next 3 months. I literally can't think of a mega R&B hit this year as the usuals are even declining in that area. I have a growing feeling that Boo'd Up and Love Lies will be nominated, and they both could be strong competition in r&b perf and song. On paper Finesse is/was bigger than both those songs, and we know Bruno is a big voter fave. But Boo'd Up and LL both have quite a few things going for them IMO. I'd actually give the slight edge to Boo'd Up at the moment, but whether people remember how well it did five months from now is another story. With LL, I think a lot hinges on Normani securing at least one other hit this year to solidify support. (Ironically Ella Mai being a virtual unknown gives her an advantage here b/c there are no expectations; just putting herself on our radars is an accomplishment in itself. Normani is more visible b/c of 5H, but that means there's more skepticism about how well she can do on her own.) I also think RCA put LL at a disadvantage by not sending it to urban. For Cardi, I'd keep Finesse as her best shot of winning, but I'd move I Like It to second; it's Be Careful that I don't see winning anything. GLY should have a good shot at a pop collab nomination, but I wonder about its chances against The Middle, Meant To Be, One Kiss if Calvin chooses to submit there and not to Dance Recording, and maybe even Ed and Beyonce's Perfect duet. |
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Post by slw84 on Jul 1, 2018 6:45:04 GMT -5
bartier cardi issa no. The other ones are a yes. I'm thinking her chances from highest to lowest R&B Finesse remix > Girls like you > Be careful > I like it (I can't see it winning even though it's a bop) I think Finesse will win unless someone comes through with a mega R&B smash in the next 3 months. I literally can't think of a mega R&B hit this year as the usuals are even declining in that area. I have a growing feeling that Boo'd Up and Love Lies will be nominated, and they both could be strong competition in r&b perf and song. On paper Finesse is/was bigger than both those songs, and we know Bruno is a big voter fave. But Boo'd Up and LL both have quite a few things going for them IMO. I'd actually give the slight edge to Boo'd Up at the moment, but whether people remember how well it did five months from now is another story. With LL, I think a lot hinges on Normani securing at least one other hit this year to solidify support. (Ironically Ella Mai being a virtual unknown gives her an advantage here b/c there are no expectations; just putting herself on our radars is an accomplishment in itself. Normani is more visible b/c of 5H, but that means there's more skepticism about how well she can do on her own.) I also think RCA put LL at a disadvantage by not sending it to urban. For Cardi, I'd keep Finesse as her best shot of winning, but I'd move I Like It to second; it's Be Careful that I don't see winning anything. GLY should have a good shot at a pop collab nomination, but I wonder about its chances against The Middle, Meant To Be, One Kiss if Calvin chooses to submit there and not to Dance Recording, and maybe even Ed and Beyonce's Perfect duet. I forgot about boo'd up. That's my song... But you make a point that people might consider it a summer bop if she doesn't follow it up with a couple of hit afterwards and bruno's name alone with cardi's popularity could work in their favor. Yeah same with normani it'll depend if they can ride the year with a few more hits. Yeah I agree now that Be caeful might have the least chance. Ed and the middle might take it from Maroon and cardi. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 11:45:35 GMT -5
Y'know I just realized, would MTB even go to pop? Or could Bebe send it to country? Her chances of a win might be better there, if the country committee would accept it.
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Post by Exclusive on Jul 1, 2018 12:52:48 GMT -5
I'm no veteran when it comes to Grammy politics but I have a question that needs some light. If an artist sends an album for a genre, for example, R&B, is it possible to send a song on the said album for different categories?
Like this post mentioned above. Could Bebe send MTB to country while sending the album to pop?
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