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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 22:31:16 GMT -5
Motivation still slaaaps "Get you naked but I won't tell em" :kii:
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Post by aussie1 on Jul 5, 2020 2:11:47 GMT -5
Her team has well and truly f*cked her solo career. An absolute disaster. I feel for her she didn't deserve this.
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Post by spiritboy on Jul 5, 2020 6:45:24 GMT -5
If she wants worldwide success, she needs to release a Pop single like Motivation. I also understand that she doesn't to lose her R&B/Urban(is there a different term i can use instead?) audience so maybe she should do a duel release, one for US and other for UK & Europe and Australia.
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Jul 5, 2020 11:43:58 GMT -5
Her team has well and truly f*cked her solo career. An absolute disaster. I feel for her she didn't deserve this. I know....this is so sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 16:09:28 GMT -5
She should've released a summer bop. Her team is one of the worst and they seem incompetent, she deserves better. Summer doesn't end til September. And she did say some months ago (even before 'rona torpedoed everything) that she was hoping to have the next single out in the summer. Of course it's entirely possible her team bungles that too, but let's wait until they actually bungle it before saying they screwed up again. tbh if I were a new-ish artist right now I'd be so stressed about what to do with my career. Not releasing anything feels like a death sentence but releasing something that you can't promote to the fullest extent is also a s**tty choice. Sometimes I wonder if the problem with Normani's team is not who she has on it, but who/what she doesn't. I mentioned before that she needs a social media manager. But she also could use a creative lead and/or a musical director...because there is still a lot she could be doing even with no new music on the nearest horizon to keep some kind of interest going. Like, she could go back to doing covers on Youtube. Or she could do some rearrangements of the songs she does have. Do a weekly or biweekly 'dance' lesson for the 'gram. A makeup tutorial featuring her new Urban Decay palette. Chile, anything! If she is really trapped in a no-release hell any buzz-creating content would be better than nothing. I don't think anyone on Normani's team right now has that kind of forward-thinking mentality, but considering what they were hired to do for her in the first place, I wouldn't expect most of them to. I guess this is where Brandon's Achilles heel shows since he as a manager is certainly in a position to suggest that. He seems mostly the type to focus on keeping you booked but maybe not think past that.
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Post by PGriffin on Jul 6, 2020 12:02:46 GMT -5
She should've released a summer bop. Her team is one of the worst and they seem incompetent, she deserves better. Summer doesn't end til September. And she did say some months ago (even before 'rona torpedoed everything) that she was hoping to have the next single out in the summer. Of course it's entirely possible her team bungles that too, but let's wait until they actually bungle it before saying they screwed up again. tbh if I were a new-ish artist right now I'd be so stressed about what to do with my career. Not releasing anything feels like a death sentence but releasing something that you can't promote to the fullest extent is also a s**tty choice. Sometimes I wonder if the problem with Normani's team is not who she has on it, but who/what she doesn't. I mentioned before that she needs a social media manager. But she also could use a creative lead and/or a musical director...because there is still a lot she could be doing even with no new music on the nearest horizon to keep some kind of interest going. Like, she could go back to doing covers on Youtube. Or she could do some rearrangements of the songs she does have. Do a weekly or biweekly 'dance' lesson for the 'gram. A makeup tutorial featuring her new Urban Decay palette. Chile, anything! If she is really trapped in a no-release hell any buzz-creating content would be better than nothing. I don't think anyone on Normani's team right now has that kind of forward-thinking mentality, but considering what they were hired to do for her in the first place, I wouldn't expect most of them to. I guess this is where Brandon's Achilles heel shows since he as a manager is certainly in a position to suggest that. He seems mostly the type to focus on keeping you booked but maybe not think past that. The pandemic is no excuse. Dua has been promoting throughout the pandemic (and several other artists) and has been successful. These are extraordinary times which calls for extraordinary ideas. We have seen that her team lacks that time and time again. At this point I think she should "leak" something.....have one of her songs mysteriously end up in the emails of a popular blog or something. Have one of friends leak a song. If it takes off then her team and label will have to get moving.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 6, 2020 12:16:56 GMT -5
Yes we do, among other things lol. As much I want to blame her team, I really wish sheβs ok and doesnβt become depressed or even lose interest in music. Oh, ok! I'm so used to y'all being treated as a US southernism haha Her choreographer (Sean) irks me so much sometimes but if he keeps serving Motivation video/2019 BBMAs energy and keeps dating Kollin (Cardi's stylist, who then ended up working with Normani for a few events) then I will have no choice but to sit here and quietly eat my food. He hasn't said anything to her fans since that last time he got in a fight with them so maybe the PR lady got to him too. Chile' Sean hates a majority of the Fifth Harmony fanbase and their individual ones For good reason too because they dragged that man from the first 8 count to the last one they ever performed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 16:34:20 GMT -5
Summer doesn't end til September. And she did say some months ago (even before 'rona torpedoed everything) that she was hoping to have the next single out in the summer. Of course it's entirely possible her team bungles that too, but let's wait until they actually bungle it before saying they screwed up again. tbh if I were a new-ish artist right now I'd be so stressed about what to do with my career. Not releasing anything feels like a death sentence but releasing something that you can't promote to the fullest extent is also a s**tty choice. Sometimes I wonder if the problem with Normani's team is not who she has on it, but who/what she doesn't. I mentioned before that she needs a social media manager. But she also could use a creative lead and/or a musical director...because there is still a lot she could be doing even with no new music on the nearest horizon to keep some kind of interest going. Like, she could go back to doing covers on Youtube. Or she could do some rearrangements of the songs she does have. Do a weekly or biweekly 'dance' lesson for the 'gram. A makeup tutorial featuring her new Urban Decay palette. Chile, anything! If she is really trapped in a no-release hell any buzz-creating content would be better than nothing. I don't think anyone on Normani's team right now has that kind of forward-thinking mentality, but considering what they were hired to do for her in the first place, I wouldn't expect most of them to. I guess this is where Brandon's Achilles heel shows since he as a manager is certainly in a position to suggest that. He seems mostly the type to focus on keeping you booked but maybe not think past that. The pandemic is no excuse. Dua has been promoting throughout the pandemic (and several other artists) and has been successful. These are extraordinary times which calls for extraordinary ideas. We have seen that her team lacks that time and time again. At this point I think she should "leak" something.....have one of her songs mysteriously end up in the emails of a popular blog or something. Have one of friends leak a song. If it takes off then her team and label will have to get moving. Dua was already midway through her rollout when the pandemic hit - and even her label didn't initially intend to go on with the show. Warner was going to push the album back a couple of weeks from its intended release date, and the only reason they pulled it up a week early was bc it leaked. In the end it worked out for her (Dua does have a fantastic team) but that is mainly because Future Nostalgia's wheels were already in motion. That situation is not nearly as comparable to a debut album whose wheels haven't started moving at all yet. I also wouldn't compare Normani to say, Gaga, who did launch in the midst of the chaos. Gaga is the definition of established so she could pull that off. Normani shouldn't have been put in the position where this would be a dilemma in the first place; her album should have been out in 2019, but RCA made a simple scenario stupidly complicated. Still, the reality is that most teams in the industry aren't that great, smart, or daring - Normani's crew isn't an unusual exception here - because it's already an uphill battle to get things right when the weather is perfectly clear. trying to rush into something when conditions are bad could make them screw up even more. No one should be surprised that Covid has several teams and labels pulling back instead of charging forward. We saw what happened when Tinashe tried to leak her own music so I would not advise Ms. Hamilton trying to pull that same stunt because RCA will not respond well to that at all. Book some more soundtracks or other things that allow her to put out some one-offs. Of course, all of this discussion is without even taking into account what Normani herself feels...tbh I get the vibe that she isn't feeling nearly as pressed about it as any of her fans are. Oh, ok! I'm so used to y'all being treated as a US southernism haha Her choreographer (Sean) irks me so much sometimes but if he keeps serving Motivation video/2019 BBMAs energy and keeps dating Kollin (Cardi's stylist, who then ended up working with Normani for a few events) then I will have no choice but to sit here and quietly eat my food. He hasn't said anything to her fans since that last time he got in a fight with them so maybe the PR lady got to him too. Chile' Sean hates a majority of the Fifth Harmony fanbase and their individual ones For good reason too because they dragged that man from the first 8 count to the last one they ever performed. I don't blame him, but he looked a whole fool arguing with those children! sMeanwhile Normani was like 'y'all hear something' and ignored the whole thing. Those kids are gonna learn one of these days that she refuses to be bothered by them. I actually saw someone theorize that she's lowkey trying to get rid of them all by pissing them off so she can build a sane fanbase from scratch frfr and that's...well, that's one way to look at it.
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Post by Ty on Jul 7, 2020 1:57:48 GMT -5
Just. Drop. That. Album. Sis.
You're an artist before anything else. Give people the music and let them decide if they rock with you or not.
In her case, I couldn't see anything but a outpouring of support for anything she drops. Her team is too misguided by the idea of having to make her "big". RCA f**ked up Tinashe in the exact same way.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 7, 2020 2:36:58 GMT -5
Just. Drop. That. Album. Sis. You're an artist before anything else. Give people the music and let them decide if they rock with you or not. In her case, I couldn't see anything but a outpouring of support for anything she drops. Her team is too misguided by the idea of having to make her "big". RCA f**ked up Tinashe in the exact same way. Even if she doesnβt get a "hit", the setup for the album is still key. By the time RCA finally dropped Joyride, it was DOA for all the obvious reasons. What Iβd love to see is them set a release date and chart a clear path towards it centered around awareness of the album regardless of how well the single fares. Not a bunch of pre-release "singles" either; give us a lead and let the era ride!
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Post by Ty on Jul 7, 2020 2:51:16 GMT -5
Just. Drop. That. Album. Sis. You're an artist before anything else. Give people the music and let them decide if they rock with you or not. In her case, I couldn't see anything but a outpouring of support for anything she drops. Her team is too misguided by the idea of having to make her "big". RCA f**ked up Tinashe in the exact same way. Even if she doesnβt get a "hit", the setup for the album is still key. By the time RCA finally dropped Joyride, it was DOA for all the obvious reasons. What Iβd love to see is them set a release date and chart a clear path towards it centered around awareness of the album regardless of how well the single fares. Not a bunch of pre-release "singles" either; give us a lead and let the era ride! I agree with you 100, Shooter. The lack of any sense of planning is frustrating. I pray she's not heading the Ava Max route (but Ava is at least somewhat established in Europe).
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jul 7, 2020 10:53:56 GMT -5
Sis did 3 Tik Toks during the peak of quarantine and said f#ck y'all that's all I got!
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Post by PGriffin on Jul 7, 2020 19:18:23 GMT -5
I havenβt been this frustrated with an artistβs career since Kelly Rowland.
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Post by vithor on Jul 8, 2020 17:04:13 GMT -5
Just. Drop. That. Album. Sis. You're an artist before anything else. Give people the music and let them decide if they rock with you or not. In her case, I couldn't see anything but a outpouring of support for anything she drops. Her team is too misguided by the idea of having to make her "big". RCA f**ked up Tinashe in the exact same way. Well to be fair, they've been messing up like that with their artists since way before Normani could even think to have a career. How RCA is still managing to stay in business is something I don't know. Just wait till Doja Cat starts underperforming and she'll be suffering from the same treatment. Had she signed with any other label and maybe she'd be on her way to releasing a sophomore album by now, but well... RCA being RCA. Nothing new under the sun.
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Post by breathingrande on Jul 11, 2020 5:56:24 GMT -5
I just think that the label isnβt lettng her release anything because nothing sounds like a hit. I donβt believe the label could be holding back a smash tbh... And, sheβs worked with the best producers, songwriters etc if nothing good has come up as of now, then girl....
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Post by think pink. on Aug 7, 2020 13:24:54 GMT -5
Iβm sad for my sis, I really am. It wasnβt supposed to be like this.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 14, 2020 13:25:49 GMT -5
RIAA.com:
NORMANI Title: MOTIVATION Certification Date: August 14, 2020 Label: KEEP COOL / RCA RECORDS Format: SINGLE 1xP
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Post by popwizard on Aug 16, 2020 20:29:33 GMT -5
I just think that the label isnβt lettng her release anything because nothing sounds like a hit. I donβt believe the label could be holding back a smash tbh... And, sheβs worked with the best producers, songwriters etc if nothing good has come up as of now, then girl.... Such a shame because Love Lies and Dancing With A Stranger are such quality songs. I mean, not just pop hits, but people of all ages can jam to Dancing With A Stranger, in particular. Both were deserving of Grammy nods and those were her first two forays as a solo artist, and I know for sure she had writing credits on Love Lies. She really should've just STAYED IN THAT LANE, Love Lies was like RnB but also a bit alternative, in typical Khalid style. Dancing With A Stranger was old-school, dancey, modern, classic and RnB. She served vocals, visuals and dancing in both and then she decided to release...... Motivation, which was a step down quality-wise and toooo pop. I think her label knew this once it was a lukewarm hit, even with a lot of anticipation, big budget video (Dave Meyers) and a VMAs slot. I mean..... Motivation is like the definition of slightly above-average, its like a borderline B-/C rated song. Its so average that its borderline offensive, because its kind of good, but just doesn't quite hit all the marks. I'm kind of glad they decided to pay it dust and leave it as more of a promotional single, ala Crying in the Club. But yeah, if they haven't come up with something good for her after all this time...then hmmmm......
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Post by think pink. on Aug 16, 2020 20:39:23 GMT -5
1 year anniversary of Motivation. Still no album in sight.
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Post by Wave. on Aug 16, 2020 21:59:31 GMT -5
1 year anniversary of Motivation. Still no album in sight. No Motivation πππππ
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Post by PGriffin on Aug 17, 2020 11:23:00 GMT -5
She better have a song with Cardi lined up....I'm tired.... I have never been this tired supporting an artist with nothing in return.
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Post by itsatravesty on Aug 17, 2020 20:06:14 GMT -5
I just think that the label isnβt lettng her release anything because nothing sounds like a hit. I donβt believe the label could be holding back a smash tbh... And, sheβs worked with the best producers, songwriters etc if nothing good has come up as of now, then girl.... Such a shame because Love Lies and Dancing With A Stranger are such quality songs. I mean, not just pop hits, but people of all ages can jam to Dancing With A Stranger, in particular. Both were deserving of Grammy nods and those were her first two forays as a solo artist, and I know for sure she had writing credits on Love Lies. She really should've just STAYED IN THAT LANE, Love Lies was like RnB but also a bit alternative, in typical Khalid style. Dancing With A Stranger was old-school, dancey, modern, classic and RnB. She served vocals, visuals and dancing in both and then she decided to release...... Motivation, which was a step down quality-wise and toooo pop. I think her label knew this once it was a lukewarm hit, even with a lot of anticipation, big budget video (Dave Meyers) and a VMAs slot. I mean..... Motivation is like the definition of slightly above-average, its like a borderline B-/C rated song. Its so average that its borderline offensive, because its kind of good, but just doesn't quite hit all the marks. I'm kind of glad they decided to pay it dust and leave it as more of a promotional single, ala Crying in the Club. But yeah, if they haven't come up with something good for her after all this time...then hmmmm...... I'm sorry but this sounds like mumbo jumbo and if her team was expecting an immediate hit with one performance and two weeks promo, without her having an established name or catalog outside of 5H and a few collabs, then they're too beholden to and just as bad as stan twitter.
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Post by itsatravesty on Aug 17, 2020 20:18:05 GMT -5
And for the Nicki fans who weren't butt hurt about her being in a Cardi video, she received a lot of praise so there still seems to be interest despite the lack of releases. http://instagram.com/p/CDpGQb3Auia She's picked up about 300K followers on IG since WAP came out/Cardi posted her. I wish this was leading up to something Nothing bothers me more than her potential
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Post by PGriffin on Aug 18, 2020 11:46:23 GMT -5
^^^ probably another magazine spread. UGH!!!
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Post by aussie1 on Aug 20, 2020 3:33:24 GMT -5
It's crickets in here. A year since motivation and all we've had since is a half assed song for a movie that no one cared for. I'm hoping that if it weren't for the pandemic we would of had something by now, but I think that is wishful thinking.
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Post by popwizard on Aug 20, 2020 16:02:22 GMT -5
Such a shame because Love Lies and Dancing With A Stranger are such quality songs. I mean, not just pop hits, but people of all ages can jam to Dancing With A Stranger, in particular. Both were deserving of Grammy nods and those were her first two forays as a solo artist, and I know for sure she had writing credits on Love Lies. She really should've just STAYED IN THAT LANE, Love Lies was like RnB but also a bit alternative, in typical Khalid style. Dancing With A Stranger was old-school, dancey, modern, classic and RnB. She served vocals, visuals and dancing in both and then she decided to release...... Motivation, which was a step down quality-wise and toooo pop. I think her label knew this once it was a lukewarm hit, even with a lot of anticipation, big budget video (Dave Meyers) and a VMAs slot. I mean..... Motivation is like the definition of slightly above-average, its like a borderline B-/C rated song. Its so average that its borderline offensive, because its kind of good, but just doesn't quite hit all the marks. I'm kind of glad they decided to pay it dust and leave it as more of a promotional single, ala Crying in the Club. But yeah, if they haven't come up with something good for her after all this time...then hmmmm...... I'm sorry but this sounds like mumbo jumbo and if her team was expecting an immediate hit with one performance and two weeks promo, without her having an established name or catalog outside of 5H and a few collabs, then they're too beholden to and just as bad as stan twitter. She wasn't exactly a brand-new artist... she was in a moderately successful girl group, but that aside... - She was featured on two, #1 CHR/POP songs.
- Love Lies came out in February of 2018! It was featured on Love, Simon! Remember that movie? That's how long ago that song was released.
- The video has 177,925,440 views on Youtube.
- She performed on the Billboard Music Awards to rave reviews, and I believe that performance was sponsored by Honda.
- Dancing With A Stranger (the video) came out Jan, 2019 and has 575,991,596 views
Love Lies and DWAS are the only songs that have reaallllly stuck. Waves didn't pop, the song with Nicki/Ariana and Megan didn't go anywhere. Checklist was kind of dope and I would say actually somewhat successful considering it was only released to streaming.
I would say, if after close to 3+ years of releasing solo music they haven't been able to come up with something for her, I'm not exactly sure what they would be waiting for, unless she just can't really find a sound. Her momentum is long gone, but hopefully she's able to get it back.
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Post by think pink. on Oct 3, 2020 17:52:27 GMT -5
Singer turned Instagram model turned video vixen
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Oct 3, 2020 20:42:10 GMT -5
Singer turned Instagram model turned video vixen Sis totally slays!!!
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Oct 3, 2020 21:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by think pink. on Oct 6, 2020 17:05:43 GMT -5
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