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Post by vamp111 on Mar 21, 2018 1:42:37 GMT -5
A lot of country artists will get "dropped" by a label to never be heard from again. But others end up coming back just as good or stronger than ever. Who are good examples you can think of? I wouldn't count those who left on good terms or moved to a different label because their contract was up (Like Carrie Underwood or Kenny Chesney for example).
Some good recent examples I can think of are Scotty McCreery (first #1 single) and Walker Hayes (had a top 10 single after being dropped). I guess RaeLynn to a lesser extent.
Who can you think of?
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Post by ky24941 on Mar 21, 2018 2:13:23 GMT -5
Here's a couple examples I know of
John Anderson was dropped by three labels over a span of three years (Warner Bros. in 1987, MCA in 1989 and Capitol in 1990) before landing on BNA in 1991. With BNA he had eight top 10 hits and his album Seminole Wind out sold all his previous albums.
Johnny Cash was dropped by Columbia Records in 1986 and again by Mercury in 1991. He signed to American Recordings in 1994, where he had his biggest commercial success since the late 1960s. In 2002, he released "Hurt", which is considered by most to be the greatest country music video of all-time. He was the top winner at the 2003 CMA Awards, where he hadn't won since 1969.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 21, 2018 8:17:00 GMT -5
Probably Reba McEntire. After 25 years at MCA, she signed to Valory in 2008. Her second Valory single, Consider Me Gone bcame her biggest hit, spending the first four weeks of 2010 at the top.
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Post by castleoblivion26 on Mar 21, 2018 10:28:52 GMT -5
Patty Loveless I believe would fit here where she was with MCA records early on in her career and released a few albums but became a much bigger star after signing with Epic Records. Most of her more iconic songs are from her Epic years
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 21, 2018 10:36:12 GMT -5
The US wouldn't know a damn thing about it, but Rita Ora counts. Huge debut era internationally, but she got screwed over by Roc Nation (and there was also Calvin Harris drama but that's a separate issue). Once she signed with Atlantic and started releasing material under the new deal, she's been racking up huge hits really quickly again.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 21, 2018 10:40:20 GMT -5
The US wouldn't know a damn thing about it, but Rita Ora counts. Huge debut era internationally, but she got screwed over by Roc Nation (and there was also Calvin Harris drama but that's a separate issue). Once she signed with Atlantic and started releasing material under the new deal, she's been racking up huge hits really quickly again. Alright. Do you have a country example?
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 21, 2018 10:46:48 GMT -5
Wait how did I not see this was in the country forum?
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 21, 2018 10:48:11 GMT -5
Wait how did I not see this was in the country forum? Wait, how did you not click country first?
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 21, 2018 10:49:09 GMT -5
I saw the thread title from the home page because it was the latest one with a reply...? I thought it was YOP.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 21, 2018 11:49:55 GMT -5
Joe Nichols and Randy Houser both left Show Dog/Universal but had momentary comebacks on Broken Bow.
Craig Morgan's first album was an unsuccessful release on Atlantic. After the label close, he had a comeback on Broken Bow.
Little Big Town seemed to be losing steam on Equity before it closed, but regained steam after Capitol picked them up.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 21, 2018 14:54:45 GMT -5
Deana Carter had a sophomore slump with only one Top 20 hit following a string of smashes from her debut album and then left Capitol Nashville. She resurfaced a few years later with Arista and had a short-lived comeback with one more Top 20 hit in early 2003.
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Post by gonecountry on Mar 21, 2018 20:27:47 GMT -5
I'm sure hoping Easton Corbin is on this list...
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Post by Todd on Mar 21, 2018 21:40:08 GMT -5
Steve Wariner had a bit of a lull after leaving Arista Records. He later signed to Capitol and scored with "Holes In the Floor of Heaven" and several others.
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 21, 2018 21:46:01 GMT -5
Love & Theft comes to mind.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 22, 2018 14:01:34 GMT -5
Steve Wariner had a bit of a lull after leaving Arista Records. He later signed to Capitol and scored with "Holes In the Floor of Heaven" and several others. That "lull" was mostly because he released an instrumental album and then wasn't on a label at all. Also, his last couple Arista albums performed poorly. It seems like other than Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, Diamond Rio, and to an extent Blackhawk, 90s-era Arista seemed to have trouble moving albums. I am still stunned that Lee Roy Parnell's first album almost didn't even chart, despite having a huge radio hit in "What Kind of Fool Do You Think I Am".
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 22, 2018 16:16:26 GMT -5
Steve Wariner had a bit of a lull after leaving Arista Records. He later signed to Capitol and scored with "Holes In the Floor of Heaven" and several others. That "lull" was mostly because he released an instrumental album and then wasn't on a label at all. Also, his last couple Arista albums performed poorly. It seems like other than Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, Diamond Rio, and to an extent Blackhawk, 90s-era Arista seemed to have trouble moving albums. I am still stunned that Lee Roy Parnell's first album almost didn't even chart, despite having a huge radio hit in "What Kind of Fool Do You Think I Am". That is strange. What Kind Of Fool Do You Think I Am hit #2 during the summer of 1992, yet the Love Without Mercy album peaked at #66. Very poor sales given the radio support of Lee Roy Parnell's first big hit.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 22, 2018 17:00:51 GMT -5
That "lull" was mostly because he released an instrumental album and then wasn't on a label at all. Also, his last couple Arista albums performed poorly. It seems like other than Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, Diamond Rio, and to an extent Blackhawk, 90s-era Arista seemed to have trouble moving albums. I am still stunned that Lee Roy Parnell's first album almost didn't even chart, despite having a huge radio hit in "What Kind of Fool Do You Think I Am". That is strange. What Kind Of Fool Do You Think I Am hit #2 during the summer of 1992, yet the Love Without Mercy album peaked at #66. Very poor sales given the radio support of Lee Roy Parnell's first big hit. You have to remember that in the 1990s at the height of CD sales, albums still sold remarkably well, especially in 92. Even a #66 album likely sold 200-300,000 copies. He has gotten close to Gold on a couple of projects even though they peaked lower. It is sad because he was and is a huge talent. As for Steve Wariner mentioned first, Well, Steve Wariner was on RCA in the late 70s, early 80s (The "Lonely Women Make Good Lovers" and "All Roads Lead To You" era) and then MCA For the rest of the 80s and THEN Arista and THEN Capitol. "I Am Ready" was the only Steve Wariner album with Arista to sell remarkably well (Gold certified) though, again, his follow-up sold a couple hundred thousand. The Capitol era was quite a successful one, especially when you consider he was in his 40s when that happened after two decades of hits. But the real remarkable thing with Steve is that he's been with so many labels and I wouldn't be shocked if he found a partner like BMG for something else in the future (though his own releases through his own label SelecTone Records have all been great). We must also remember that in country, a 'segmented, rural audience,' Platinum discs were extremely rare until Garth came along.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 25, 2018 11:33:12 GMT -5
That is strange. What Kind Of Fool Do You Think I Am hit #2 during the summer of 1992, yet the Love Without Mercy album peaked at #66. Very poor sales given the radio support of Lee Roy Parnell's first big hit. You have to remember that in the 1990s at the height of CD sales, albums still sold remarkably well, especially in 92. Even a #66 album likely sold 200-300,000 copies. He has gotten close to Gold on a couple of projects even though they peaked lower. It is sad because he was and is a huge talent. As for Steve Wariner mentioned first, Well, Steve Wariner was on RCA in the late 70s, early 80s (The "Lonely Women Make Good Lovers" and "All Roads Lead To You" era) and then MCA For the rest of the 80s and THEN Arista and THEN Capitol. "I Am Ready" was the only Steve Wariner album with Arista to sell remarkably well (Gold certified) though, again, his follow-up sold a couple hundred thousand. The Capitol era was quite a successful one, especially when you consider he was in his 40s when that happened after two decades of hits. But the real remarkable thing with Steve is that he's been with so many labels and I wouldn't be shocked if he found a partner like BMG for something else in the future (though his own releases through his own label SelecTone Records have all been great). We must also remember that in country, a 'segmented, rural audience,' Platinum discs were extremely rare until Garth came along. It's still strange that a decently selling album would only get to #66 on the album charts though. I'm guessing it was because the album was released when "The Rock" was the current single?
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Post by gardyfan on Mar 25, 2018 15:44:59 GMT -5
Not really dropped but he chose to leave with a completed record, Toby Keith comes to mind.
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Post by Troublemaker on Mar 25, 2018 16:53:38 GMT -5
Love & Theft comes to mind. As much as I'm rooting for them, they haven't made a comeback
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 16:56:48 GMT -5
Love & Theft comes to mind. As much as I'm rooting for them, they haven't made a comeback They did score a #1 with Sony in 2012 with "Angel Eyes". Their original label netted them a Top 10 as their highest charting song. It's a shame that post "Angel Eyes" they could never keep up or really gain any momentum.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 25, 2018 16:58:01 GMT -5
It's a shame that post "Angel Eyes" they could never keep up or really gain any momentum. That's because RCA took FOREVER to release a followup single.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 16:59:23 GMT -5
It's a shame that post "Angel Eyes" they could never keep up or really gain any momentum. That's because RCA took FOREVER to release a followup single. Huh? I thought "Running Out Of Air" was released soon after "Angel Eyes"? That song failing never made any sense at all.
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 25, 2018 17:08:42 GMT -5
That's because RCA took FOREVER to release a followup single. Huh? I thought "Running Out Of Air" was released soon after "Angel Eyes"? That song failing never made any sense at all. They had a top ten hit on Lyric Street with Runaway. Then a number one hit on RCA with Angel Eyes, so they already qualify regardless of what they do on Curb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 17:10:24 GMT -5
Huh? I thought "Running Out Of Air" was released soon after "Angel Eyes"? That song failing never made any sense at all. They had a top ten hit on Lyric Street with Runaway. Then a number one hit on RCA with Angel Eyes, so they already qualify regardless of what they do on Curb. Oh I agree. I was sad when I found out about them leaving RCA. Wasn't shocked just sad (even if their departure kind of started the former Sony president leaving😀😁😂)
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 25, 2018 17:11:59 GMT -5
That's because RCA took FOREVER to release a followup single. Huh? I thought "Running Out Of Air" was released soon after "Angel Eyes"? That song failing never made any sense at all. There was a pretty huge gap. I think it was a good four months after Angel Eyes fell off the charts that they even announced ROOA as the next single.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 17:16:19 GMT -5
Huh? I thought "Running Out Of Air" was released soon after "Angel Eyes"? That song failing never made any sense at all. There was a pretty huge gap. I think it was a good four months after Angel Eyes fell off the charts that they even announced ROOA as the next single. Oh gosh. They really fucked up with Love and Theft. "Running Out Of Air" was such a perfect follow-up song and they messed up badly.
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Post by rsmatto on Mar 25, 2018 21:16:57 GMT -5
Not really dropped but he chose to leave with a completed record, Toby Keith comes to mind. They dropped him. Thought the record sucked and would never sell. He bought it and released it w/Dreamworks because James Stroud was hired to run that label.
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Post by sabre14 on Mar 26, 2018 23:18:47 GMT -5
Not really a super successful comeback but Brett James was dropped from Career Records when it officially merged into Arista Nashville in the late 90's. He released three singles that charted in 1995 and then came back to chart in the top 40 in 2002 and 2003 with "Chasin' Amy" and "After All" off once again, Arista Nashville lol.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Mar 26, 2018 23:28:50 GMT -5
Not really dropped but he chose to leave with a completed record, Toby Keith comes to mind. They dropped him. Thought the record sucked and would never sell. He bought it and released it w/Dreamworks because James Stroud was hired to run that label. I have to wonder if "Slave to the Habit" was one of the songs that Mercury rejected from him? It's strange that they'd give a new artist a Toby Keith song, since as far as I know he NEVER had any other outside cuts.
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