Future Captain
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 21, 2018 12:04:47 GMT -5
I love this a lot. The melody in the chorus is amazing, and the sing-talk parts are really catchy too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 12:13:03 GMT -5
The thing is this doesn't at all apply to Drake. One Dance was #1 on pop and God's Plan is currently top 5 and rising. So you can't dismiss Drake as a 'streaming' success in 2018 without simultaneously revealing yourself as someone who clearly doesn't listen to pop radio much, if at all. Frankly if Drake's current dominance was only due to him being a streaming monster, we wouldn't be sitting here worried/pressed that Ariana is probably not going to debut at #1 lol. (I do think she has a solid chance of rising to #1 later though - God's Plan is going to peak soon and NTLTC will take off on airplay faster than NFW will due to the airplay deal giving her a head start). I do get what you're saying about not hearing songs while out in public a lot and to that extent I get the point that was trying to be made. Hotline Bling was a true pop culture moment - the video was a cornucopia of meme-able moments, it was referred to on tv shows, and truly played almost everywhere. Hell, it spawned merchandise - people were buying HB-themed ugly Christmas sweaters, that song's popularity was so immense. OD and God's Plan didn't reach that far. But then, few songs do. That has nothing to do with being hip-hop or pop. Sorry, I wasnāt referring to Godās Plan in particular, and especially not One Dance. Drake is kind of an exception to the rule, since half of his material is pop, but in general it applies to most of the streaming hits outside of the top 5 of the H100. OIC! Yeah, and J. Cole really just proved you right there. I was so looking forward to seeing what his album SPS would be that I didn't even stop to think what his songs would do individually.
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 21, 2018 13:10:59 GMT -5
20 million views on YouTube :)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 13:14:03 GMT -5
I know people have been going on about being reminded of X when they hear this but strangely enough I dont get a Madonna/Gaga/Mariah vibe out of this. It honestly reminds me of Ke$ha, particularly the song structure and the topical approach. The talk-singing hook helps too, if only because Kesha did it so often and so well.
Obviously Ariana blows her out of the water vocally, but everything else.
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Post by Normi on Apr 21, 2018 14:09:57 GMT -5
So obsessed with this listened to it almost 80 times already When do you guys expect an album announcement and for what time?
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Post by ILLUSION on Apr 21, 2018 14:20:42 GMT -5
SATURDAY 4/21 UPDATE:CHR/Pop:0 32 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 1595 0 1595 14.386 Top 40! Sheesh, what a first day!
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Post by Caution on Apr 21, 2018 14:28:03 GMT -5
This is her best song.
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Post by Caution on Apr 21, 2018 14:46:45 GMT -5
This song honestly feels like HEAVEN. More precisely, the gay part of heaven. It's one of the best constructed pop choruses that I can think of from recent years. The melody is gorgeous, the harmonies are gorgeous, the video is magical, and even the talk parts mix it up just right. SHE DID THAT. The production reminds me of a Madonna song (Like a Prayer maybe) with Mariah vocals from Daydream album.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Apr 21, 2018 15:08:54 GMT -5
Even if Ariana doesn't have a huge debut because of J Cole, his songs will be gone from the chart in a month and I expect No Tears to have more longevity.
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Post by Taylor. on Apr 21, 2018 15:22:43 GMT -5
I kind of wish there was a bridge but otherwise this song is perfect for me.
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Post by Choco on Apr 21, 2018 16:34:27 GMT -5
It's growing on me a lot. I went from "meh" yesterday to playing it non-stop today. Can't wait for the album.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Apr 21, 2018 16:37:36 GMT -5
I've been out of town and apparently missed everything. This is nice. Love the production and the off kilter song structure. And it's easily her best video.
Her enunciation is horrific though, why does she still have peanut butter mouth?
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Post by Exclusive on Apr 21, 2018 18:16:45 GMT -5
This song is now on repeat. My second favorite lead behind DW.
I hope the huge airplay wonāt break her streak of debuting in the top ten :'(
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Post by Troublemaker on Apr 21, 2018 18:46:15 GMT -5
This song gets better with every listen...
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Post by ampersand on Apr 21, 2018 19:37:42 GMT -5
My gay ass is living for this song and video. Absolute perfection.
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Post by lancey on Apr 21, 2018 21:46:06 GMT -5
This song honestly feels like HEAVEN. More precisely, the gay part of heaven. It's one of the best constructed pop choruses that I can think of from recent years. The melody is gorgeous, the harmonies are gorgeous, the video is magical, and even the talk parts mix it up just right. SHE DID THAT. The production reminds me of a Madonna song (Like a Prayer maybe) with Mariah vocals from Daydream album. How dare you compare this vocal with ANYTHING from Daydream š±š±š±š±šš¾šš¾šš¾šš¾šš¾...
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Post by Bwol on Apr 21, 2018 21:48:55 GMT -5
Ariana can compete with Mariah vocally imo :kii:
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Post by divasummer on Apr 21, 2018 22:35:04 GMT -5
I really like Ariana's latest. At first listen the production in the chorus was almost to ethereal for me. I wanted it to be more crisp. After a few listens I'm beginning to like that quality about it. I don't mind the talk singing part it's catchy but I can see where some might find it a little irking. I hope it does well for her. I'm liking it more with each listen. Like others have said I think it is a bit of a grower.
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Post by Zach on Apr 21, 2018 22:49:33 GMT -5
This song's the definition of a grower. I thought it was just okay on first few listens but I actually quite like it now. It's good.
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Post by The Northern Starā on Apr 22, 2018 0:17:59 GMT -5
Ariana can compete with Mariah vocally imo :kii: This decade? Perhaps. Prior to that? Very doubtful. Especially in the prime years.
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Post by JayBoozer on Apr 22, 2018 0:28:01 GMT -5
Ariana can compete with Mariah vocally imo :kii: This decade? Perhaps. Prior to that? Very doubtful. Especially in the prime years. This is up there with Mariahās snl performance in early 90s: youtu.be/CrzWW4j5TgM
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Apr 22, 2018 0:32:45 GMT -5
Her performance of this song at Coachella was a hit and miss.
Also, it drives me crazy that she performs with her eyes mostly closed. Every single time.
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Post by The Northern Starā on Apr 22, 2018 1:47:02 GMT -5
This decade? Perhaps. Prior to that? Very doubtful. Especially in the prime years. This is up there with Mariahās snl performance in early 90s: youtu.be/CrzWW4j5TgMI would disagree but it's a matter of opinion. Mariah in her prime was more than high chest belts and range.
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Post by deepston on Apr 22, 2018 5:46:12 GMT -5
Kworb is predicting 69k Honestly, it barely pushed Drake down to 5x lead, and heās only selling 30k. This seems accurate. She would have had to push Drake down to 0.05 at least to do 120-150k. However, itās decent if sheās a streaming act. If she can increase her Spotify numbers a bit, then itāll be clear that her fans have migrates to streaming. we had a dream
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 22, 2018 6:08:21 GMT -5
-- 32 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2005 0 2005 17.920
+410 Spins +410 Bullet +3.534 Audience
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Post by deepston on Apr 22, 2018 6:12:06 GMT -5
#2 in US Youtube (2,583,795) Avicii is #1.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Apr 22, 2018 6:51:39 GMT -5
Debuts at #4 on personal chart with only 2 days of plays. I'm definitely hooked.
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Post by deepston on Apr 22, 2018 7:13:44 GMT -5
#3 Spotify Global (4.8m) #11 Spotify US (1.5m)
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Post by weaver on Apr 22, 2018 7:18:41 GMT -5
This decade? Perhaps. Prior to that? Very doubtful. Especially in the prime years. This is up there with Mariahās snl performance in early 90s: youtu.be/CrzWW4j5TgMI was tempted to post Mariah's performance of If It's Over from SNL, but then I remembered this is an Ariana Grande thread and it seemed trolly. But...if making a comparison between the two it's a good reference point I think. Or the 97 Butterfly performance.
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 22, 2018 7:32:07 GMT -5
Ariana can compete with Mariah vocally imo :kii: No way.
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