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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 11:01:19 GMT -5
I wanna ask this question: Why is J Cole, Post Malone and Drake dominating streaming? Is it fair to pop artists that rappers are dominating streaming and getting higher positions on the hot 100? What can Ariana and other pop stars that aren't rappers do to do better on streaming? I think history has shown us that genres coming in and out of being dominant on the Hot 100 is a cyclical thing. On that same note, until the current playing field is more level (i.e. streaming totally takes over and sales and terrestrial radio as we know them don't exist, which, call me crazy, but I can see happening as the stage has already been set.) things are bound to be messy and maybe lopsided. It's the nature of the major transitional phase we're in. It's really difficult for any genre to compete with whatever the "kids" are listening to at the moment, always has been, but I think it's magnified by how relatively inexpensive it is now to consume music. For $10/month, kids can consume whatever they want as much as they want with built-in hyper-trackable data, compared to only being able to buy a handful of songs and/or one album and have all of the actual listener data be untrackable. I can only imagine what I'd be listening to as a kid if I didn't have to actually go to a store and buy things individually. Before streaming, the charts were manipulated in a way that allowed labels to force feed certain artists and songs. It didn't always work, obviously, but it often did. And when it did work, we got 10 other artists doing the same thing for the next year or two. Many music consumers don't actively seek things out, they are more passive and like what they're being told to like, maybe without even knowing it. Who's to say all these big pop stars' songs who charted as well as they did on the Hot 100 would have been so strong compared to the hiphop of the time if streaming with it's crazy-cheap pricing easy access had been around. Maybe it's really been dominant in terms of actual listens since the 90s, but the Hot 100 didn't always reflect it because of the listener control the labels and radio had in many ways, especially when it came to what charted and what didn't. Right now we're finally seeing more reality in the charts, it seems. But again, until virtually everyone is streaming and radio and sales as formats fall by the wayside, it's really difficult to get a fair and balanced take on what's popular. They're doing the most to try, which is very evident in all the changes in recent years.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 1, 2018 11:07:09 GMT -5
Let rap and hip hop have its turn. Itβs been a hot minute since they last did. Wow, #3 on the Hot 100. OPPRESSION! Big R&B and legit country songs arenβt even cracking the top 30. π
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Post by Glove Slap on May 1, 2018 11:14:38 GMT -5
Let rap and hip hop have its turn. Itβs been a hot minute since they last did. This post is offensive to rich white women.
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Post by JayBoozer on May 1, 2018 13:05:18 GMT -5
I wanna ask this question: Why is J Cole, Post Malone and Drake dominating streaming? Is it fair to pop artists that rappers are dominating streaming and getting higher positions on the hot 100? What can Ariana and other pop stars that aren't rappers do to do better on streaming? white guys listen to them while smoking weed white girls listen to Ariana while painting their nails More people smoke weed, sadly. Nothing can be done. and gays are listening to ariana while punching lights
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Post by bat1990 on May 1, 2018 13:18:34 GMT -5
I'm so over Hot 100 success. When all ages catch up and Pop carries some weight again, then I'll care again. For now, I'm happy when the artists I like even make a radio chart, the Hot 100, Billboard 200, or get RIAA certs and am less concerned about peaks.
(also Kylie is having her best showing in the US since Body Language BEFORE she did any promo here)
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Post by Caviar on May 1, 2018 13:41:23 GMT -5
white guys listen to them while smoking weed white girls listen to Ariana while painting their nails More people smoke weed, sadly. Nothing can be done. and gays are listening to ariana while punching lights I think this picture is in poor taste considering the Avicii news.
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Post by dbhmr on May 1, 2018 13:46:17 GMT -5
and gays are listening to ariana while punching lights I think this picture is in poor taste considering the Avicii news. NO ONE BREAK GLASS EVER AGAIN.
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Post by ilikemusic on May 1, 2018 15:10:39 GMT -5
Ok this burned on me fast
This is nice and all but I wish she wouldβve gone in a more interesting direction. Urban is SMASHING right now and I wouldβve liked to see her do something more SZA-like with of course her signature whistle tones and range. This is just another safe cute lil hit
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Post by Glove Slap on May 1, 2018 15:13:50 GMT -5
With her enunciation issues rearing up on this, SZA-esque music is not what she should do right now.
It's interesting that this is so decidedly not Urban though, because she always had Urban influences on the prior albums before it started to gain crossover popularity again. This was a perfect opportunity to bring everything together and it wasn't utilized on this, and I say this as someone who considers this to easily be one of her best singles.
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Post by Keelzit on May 1, 2018 15:19:37 GMT -5
She has a whole album planned + I don't think an urban-leaning song could carry the message she wanted to send with this song. I'm sure we'll get our Let Me Love You's + Best Mistake's eventually.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 1, 2018 16:53:10 GMT -5
She has a whole album planned + I don't think an urban-leaning song could carry the message she wanted to send with this song. I'm sure we'll get our Let Me Love You's + Best Mistake's eventually. This page is truly on some fuck shit!
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Post by Glove Slap on May 1, 2018 16:59:44 GMT -5
She has a whole album planned + I don't think an urban-leaning song could carry the message she wanted to send with this song. I'm sure we'll get our Let Me Love You's + Best Mistake's eventually. This page is truly on some f**k s**t! Right? That comment is so fucked. Like what messages can be carried across by Urban music? Selling drugs and shooting guns?
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Post by dbhmr on May 1, 2018 17:01:34 GMT -5
This page is truly on some f**k s**t! Right? That comment is so f**ked. Like what messages can be carried across by Urban music? Selling drugs and shooting guns? Duhhh black music is for fun, white music is for emotion.
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Post by Glove Slap on May 1, 2018 17:04:01 GMT -5
Right? That comment is so f**ked. Like what messages can be carried across by Urban music? Selling drugs and shooting guns? Duhhh black music is for fun, white music is for emotion. But remember not to make fun of White Europeans for their accents. That, and only that, is racist and offensive.
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Post by Caviar on May 1, 2018 17:11:41 GMT -5
This is veering towards the "Bodak Yellow" mess...
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 1, 2018 17:20:04 GMT -5
Right? That comment is so f**ked. Like what messages can be carried across by Urban music? Selling drugs and shooting guns? Duhhh black music is for fun, white music is for emotion. Post Malone, is that you? π
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 17:51:53 GMT -5
I'm convinced now that a song cannot go number one unless and until its thread becomes messy as hell
Congrats Ari! You made it!
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Post by rfucom on May 1, 2018 18:19:10 GMT -5
Duhhh black music is for fun, white music is for emotion. Post Malone, is that you? π Or eminem.
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Post by collin on May 1, 2018 19:13:04 GMT -5
This thread right now... ahh.
It is not decidedly non-urban whatsoever. And you know she will have songs that are more urban on the album and probably as singles.
Her last single was literally urban-leaning and flopped, this song is the perfect comeback single IMO.
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Post by leonagwen on May 1, 2018 19:37:22 GMT -5
People are overreacting because it probably wont get a Hot 100 #1.So what? The song is still one of the hottest songs in the world right now and she will have a #1 on the album chart when the album comes out.
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Post by Oprah on May 1, 2018 19:39:39 GMT -5
People are overreacting because it probably wont get a Hot 100 #1.So what? The song is still one of the hottest songs in the world right now and she will have a #1 on the album chart when the album comes out. Girl you literally started this.
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Post by g8erboi on May 1, 2018 20:26:51 GMT -5
When people ignore the space between the period and the first letter of the next sentence <<
Anyway, this is doing great!
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Post by Lumi on May 1, 2018 20:46:47 GMT -5
TOP 3 YESSS! Go off Ari!
Now as much as I'd like it to get to #1, Hip Hop is being rude soooo.
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Post by Caviar on May 1, 2018 20:58:50 GMT -5
She's performing at the billboard awards.
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Post by House Lannister on May 1, 2018 21:03:23 GMT -5
It's a pleasant listen, but not quite a memorable one. Almost like it fades into the ether.
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Post by garrettlen on May 1, 2018 21:08:09 GMT -5
I wanna ask this question: Why is J Cole, Post Malone and Drake dominating streaming? Is it fair to pop artists that rappers are dominating streaming and getting higher positions on the hot 100? What can Ariana and other pop stars that aren't rappers do to do better on streaming? Convince their fans to stream more?
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Post by wjr15 on May 1, 2018 21:10:41 GMT -5
I wanna ask this question: Why is J Cole, Post Malone and Drake dominating streaming? Is it fair to pop artists that rappers are dominating streaming and getting higher positions on the hot 100? What can Ariana and other pop stars that aren't rappers do to do better on streaming? Convince their fans to stream more? Fans tried that and Billboard took away 2 million streams lol
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Post by AP on May 2, 2018 0:07:09 GMT -5
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Post by JayBoozer on May 2, 2018 0:16:39 GMT -5
Great performance!!
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 2, 2018 0:19:09 GMT -5
Much better vocal than Coachella.
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