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Post by Oprah on Apr 26, 2018 19:06:56 GMT -5
I don't think Problem has held up all that well. From that album alone I hear Love Me Harder way more.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 19:16:38 GMT -5
Ari needs a universally appealing song, her music leans “gay” IMHO IMO she got a universally appealing song through with One Last Time, far more following Manchester's tragic event. I also don't really see how her music leans "gay" This song itself is an uplifting type of song too Ariana has loads of straight fans also both male and female. My work colleagues of all different ages loved her DW album and this song has gotten a great response.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 19:23:48 GMT -5
I don't think Problem has held up all that well. From that album alone I hear Love Me Harder way more. Yup i agree, one of her most underrated tracks. An amazing collab with the Weeknd, which not everyone has, which is difficult to get. So much talent on one stage .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvP0ihob9k4
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 19:34:43 GMT -5
The themes of her music lean more feminine Well Ariana is a woman so this is not all that surprising.
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Post by deepston on Apr 26, 2018 19:56:48 GMT -5
The themes of her music lean more feminine Outside of her being a female I wouldn’t neccesrily agree, I also don’t get how that makes it “gay” leaning. I’m not denying she doesn’t have a large fanbase of men who happen to be gay, however I don’t think that is neccesarily because of her/her music, and it doesn’t make her music not universally accepted (Sorry if I am coming across as attacking you, I’m not/that isn’t my intention, I am genuinely curious) It's not a bad thing at all to have a ton of gays following Ariana around. It worked very well for Madonna and Lady Gaga. I also believe her songs explore a very feminine side and gay dudes might be attracted to those tunes because they can connect those songs with their feminine side. There is no denying Dangerous Woman (album) is full of gay anthems and very feminine songs. Gays love her and that's amazing! This doesn't mean her songs can't be universally accepted. Take Tears as an example, it is a universal song but from a gay man standpoint, it's a song about coming out and not giving a damn about what the other people think anymore. It's empowering and resonates amazingly with the lgbt community.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 19:59:22 GMT -5
Ariana just has amazing and catchy songs. Also her tone is so amazing. Just beautiful.
When the chorus kicks in on NTLTC its just amazing. Beautiful tone. And those perfectly placed adlibs and counter harmonies. Sublime. Best song of 2018 so far.
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Post by kmbgs on Apr 26, 2018 20:12:09 GMT -5
Truly dying that no one has yet pointed out that having a Hot 100 #1 is difficult to get. Not everybody has that! Far easier when your record company pays radio to play your songs and gives them away to stores. How much does this song cost on iTunes?
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 20:25:05 GMT -5
Far easier when your record company pays radio to play your songs and gives them away to stores. How much does this song cost on iTunes? Not 49 cent.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Apr 26, 2018 20:48:48 GMT -5
I don't think Problem has held up all that well. From that album alone I hear Love Me Harder way more. Yup i agree, one of her most underrated tracks. An amazing collab with the Weeknd, which not everyone has, which is difficult to get. So much talent on one stage .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvP0ihob9k4My favorite Ari track.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Apr 26, 2018 20:54:06 GMT -5
Outside of her being a female I wouldn’t neccesrily agree, I also don’t get how that makes it “gay” leaning. I’m not denying she doesn’t have a large fanbase of men who happen to be gay, however I don’t think that is neccesarily because of her/her music, and it doesn’t make her music not universally accepted (Sorry if I am coming across as attacking you, I’m not/that isn’t my intention, I am genuinely curious) It's not a bad thing at all to have a ton of gays following Ariana around. It worked very well for Madonna and Lady Gaga. I also believe her songs explore a very feminine side and gay dudes might be attracted to those tunes because they can connect those songs with their feminine side. There is no denying Dangerous Woman (album) is full of gay anthems and very feminine songs. Gays love her and that's amazing! This doesn't mean her songs can't be universally accepted. Take Tears as an example, it is a universal song but from a gay man standpoint, it's a song about coming out and not giving a damn about what the other people think anymore. It's empowering and resonates amazingly with the lgbt community. Uh why do you think gay men are all feminine?
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Apr 26, 2018 20:57:50 GMT -5
How much does this song cost on iTunes? Not 49 cent. You do realize this had a radio deal (paying radio stations) and the song is discounted in its first week & able to be purchase multiple times on her website for cheap (practically giving it away), right? You really can’t be using those examples to shade if this act is engaging in similar behavior.
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Post by NeRD on Apr 26, 2018 21:01:07 GMT -5
Far easier when your record company pays radio to play your songs and gives them away to stores. How much does this song cost on iTunes? You do realize this had a radio deal (paying radio stations) and the song is discounted in its first week & able to be purchase multiple times on her website for cheap (practically giving it away), right? You really can’t be using those examples to shade if this act is engaging in similar behavior. Ki. This is why I love my Pulse sistrens.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Apr 26, 2018 21:06:40 GMT -5
How much does this song cost on iTunes? Not 49 cent. Let's not shade Mariah now, friend.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 21:14:14 GMT -5
You do realize this had a radio deal (paying radio stations) and the song is discounted in its first week & able to be purchase multiple times on her website for cheap (practically giving it away), right? You really can’t be using those examples to shade if this act is engaging in similar behavior. A discount from 99 cent to 69 cent cant really be compared to an act selling a song for 49 cent when the standard cost of a CD single was around 4 dollars. Also a fan buying a song multiple times is the same thing as a fan buying multiple copies of an album, which happens ALL the time. OT this song gets more amazing with every listen. Her TONE alone..
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Post by survivorqt on Apr 26, 2018 21:14:21 GMT -5
Yup i agree, one of her most underrated tracks. An amazing collab with the Weeknd, which not everyone has, which is difficult to get. So much talent on one stage .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvP0ihob9k4My favorite Ari track. We listen to an Adult contemporary station all day at work at that’s the only Ariana song they play
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Post by deepston on Apr 26, 2018 21:16:30 GMT -5
It's not a bad thing at all to have a ton of gays following Ariana around. It worked very well for Madonna and Lady Gaga. I also believe her songs explore a very feminine side and gay dudes might be attracted to those tunes because they can connect those songs with their feminine side. There is no denying Dangerous Woman (album) is full of gay anthems and very feminine songs. Gays love her and that's amazing! This doesn't mean her songs can't be universally accepted. Take Tears as an example, it is a universal song but from a gay man standpoint, it's a song about coming out and not giving a damn about what the other people think anymore. It's empowering and resonates amazingly with the lgbt community. Uh why do you think gay men are all feminine? That's not what I said at all. Having a feminine side doesn't translate into being feminine.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 21:17:26 GMT -5
Yup i agree, one of her most underrated tracks. An amazing collab with the Weeknd, which not everyone has, which is difficult to get. So much talent on one stage .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvP0ihob9k4My favorite Ari track. Yeah !! Her voice and The Weeknds worked so well together. Simply superb. She has SO many great tracks. Touch It ends careers.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Apr 26, 2018 21:59:29 GMT -5
Yeah !! Her voice and The Weeknds worked so well together. Simply superb. She has SO many great tracks. Touch It ends careers. My trifecta of songs from her that I like to put one after the other are "Lovin' It", "Love Me Harder", and "Sometimes". The fact that they are all in the same key makes it awesome. But there are very few songs that she has released that I don't at least like a whole lot, I love most of them.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 22:04:34 GMT -5
Yeah !! Her voice and The Weeknds worked so well together. Simply superb. She has SO many great tracks. Touch It ends careers. My trifecta of songs from her that I like to put one after the other are "Lovin' It", "Love Me Harder", and "Sometimes". The fact that they are all in the same key makes it awesome. But there are very few songs that she has released that I don't at least like a whole lot, I love most of them. i dont use her first album, i really liked the other two. DW is a really great album. Focus was crap, glad it was dropped.
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 27, 2018 1:03:07 GMT -5
Outside of her being a female I wouldn’t neccesrily agree, I also don’t get how that makes it “gay” leaning. I’m not denying she doesn’t have a large fanbase of men who happen to be gay, however I don’t think that is neccesarily because of her/her music, and it doesn’t make her music not universally accepted (Sorry if I am coming across as attacking you, I’m not/that isn’t my intention, I am genuinely curious) It's not a bad thing at all to have a ton of gays following Ariana around. It worked very well for Madonna and Lady Gaga. I also believe her songs explore a very feminine side and gay dudes might be attracted to those tunes because they can connect those songs with their feminine side. There is no denying Dangerous Woman (album) is full of gay anthems and very feminine songs. Gays love her and that's amazing! This doesn't mean her songs can't be universally accepted. Take Tears as an example, it is a universal song but from a gay man standpoint, it's a song about coming out and not giving a damn about what the other people think anymore. It's empowering and resonates amazingly with the lgbt community. Which is not what I mean at all (and apologies if it is coming across that way). I am just tired of this outlook that every single person who likes the same sex fits into the exact same category and is essentially the exact same feminine person. However, I was tired when I wrote that and I am probably way overthinking what was said so I am just going to drop this here before it gets too messy
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Post by deepston on Apr 27, 2018 4:30:25 GMT -5
It's not a bad thing at all to have a ton of gays following Ariana around. It worked very well for Madonna and Lady Gaga. I also believe her songs explore a very feminine side and gay dudes might be attracted to those tunes because they can connect those songs with their feminine side. There is no denying Dangerous Woman (album) is full of gay anthems and very feminine songs. Gays love her and that's amazing! This doesn't mean her songs can't be universally accepted. Take Tears as an example, it is a universal song but from a gay man standpoint, it's a song about coming out and not giving a damn about what the other people think anymore. It's empowering and resonates amazingly with the lgbt community. Which is not what I mean at all (and apologies if it is coming across that way). I am just tired of this outlook that every single person who likes the same sex fits into the exact same category and is essentially the exact same feminine person. However, I was tired when I wrote that and I am probably way overthinking what was said so I am just going to drop this here before it gets too messy I don't want to upset you because you seem like a genuinely nice person so I'll just say that not every gay man is feminine and that's common sense. That doesn't stop them from liking a song with relatable lyrics :)
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 27, 2018 4:37:12 GMT -5
Which is not what I mean at all (and apologies if it is coming across that way). I am just tired of this outlook that every single person who likes the same sex fits into the exact same category and is essentially the exact same feminine person. However, I was tired when I wrote that and I am probably way overthinking what was said so I am just going to drop this here before it gets too messy I don't want to upset you because you seem like a genuinely nice person so I'll just say that not every gay man is feminine and that's common sense. That doesn't stop them from liking a song with relatable lyrics I know, that was my point I think we are misinterpreting each other (or at least I am). Anyway, this is still #1 on iTunes and the discount is still there :)
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 27, 2018 5:20:18 GMT -5
Looks like a handful of spins did manage to slip through before its first full day.
POP: 110 20 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4712 47 4665 37.337
+707 Spins +660 Bullet +4.426 Audience
HOT AC: 201 32 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 458 1 457 2.537
+109 Spins +108 Bullet +0.421 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 193 37 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 558 18 540 2.106
+102 Spins +84 Bullet +0.288 Audience
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Post by Mayman on Apr 27, 2018 6:27:30 GMT -5
Tomorrow will include the 8th-day effect, correct?
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 27, 2018 6:36:50 GMT -5
Yeah, tomorrow should be the 8th Day Effect. Based on today's update I'd expect somewhere in the realm of an 800-900 spin loss.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 27, 2018 7:39:17 GMT -5
I don't want to upset you because you seem like a genuinely nice person so I'll just say that not every gay man is feminine and that's common sense. That doesn't stop them from liking a song with relatable lyrics I know, that was my point I think we are misinterpreting each other (or at least I am). Anyway, this is still #1 on iTunes and the discount is still there Your fixation on the discount is funny. Obviously at this point its probably just its price. Its within the accepted range for billboard so its fine. Not like its being sold for 29 cents or anything. I hope this has some staying power on the charts.
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Post by NeRD on Apr 27, 2018 8:31:43 GMT -5
I know, that was my point I think we are misinterpreting each other (or at least I am). Anyway, this is still #1 on iTunes and the discount is still there Your fixation on the discount is funny. Obviously at this point its probably just its price. Its within the accepted range for billboard so its fine. Not like its being sold for 29 cents or anything. I hope this has some staying power on the charts. Again, it's quite hypocritical for you to come for other artists/record labels who do the same tricks but think it's ok with Ariana.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 27, 2018 10:04:18 GMT -5
I think its very smart to keep this $0.69 for its entire run. Would be even smarter to put all singles at $0.69 as well, if they want to get some great chart peaks.
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Post by Choco on Apr 27, 2018 10:16:41 GMT -5
If people didn't like the song they wouldn't buy it, even at 10 cents... If the discount is gonna keep the digital sales #1 from slipping below 40k for a while, I'm OK with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 11:07:55 GMT -5
How much does this song cost on iTunes? Not 49 cent. Lol and still so relevant you go out of your way to troll her. Let's not talk about budget discounted queens in this thread of all places 😘 . In 28 years this whole argument will be irrelevant and tears will overflow!
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