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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 10:11:16 GMT -5
Streaming parties have almost zero impact on the chart. There are 1440 minutes in a day. Playing a 3 my minute song on loop continuously gets you 480 plays in a day. You would thousands of fans doing that for the entire tracking week for it to have any impact. 20 people on Twitter aren't manipulating the charts. I agree, and that proves my point further - why 'ban' them? Nine times out of ten, those aren't actually the plays that are being removed. Sure that's intentional spamming, but Spotify (and streaming services in general) are much more concerned with streaming fraud. This involves creating fake artists, uploading some mediocre dance music, and then having bot accounts create and listen to playlists with those "artists" in them (along with "real" artists so that it looks normal). This diverts streaming revenue to the fake artists. I presume that if Spotify discovers one of these bot accounts, it removes ALL of that bot's streams - the bot didn't actually listen to any of those songs, real or fake - so that has the side effect of taking away some numbers from the real artists who inadvertently benefited from these bot playlists. Ariana, being a popular artist with a new song, is an obvious decoy choice for such a playlist, so it honestly doesn't surprise me that she would lose that many streams. Side bar, streaming parties and the like aren't limited to pop diva fans - Idol fandom was notorious for doing similar things with iTunes purchases - but it rarely makes a noticable difference.
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Post by deepston on Apr 29, 2018 10:33:34 GMT -5
Btw streams are down to 1.1 million. It debuted with 1.8 and held 1.6 for a couple days. I don't see it rebounding much. Maybe with a couple performances or once this picks up on radio it will rebound. I'd be happy if this became a radio smash and stabilized at around 1m streams. We should not forget that this last couple of days have been very competitive and people will drop certain songs to listen to new releases.
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 29, 2018 10:40:24 GMT -5
Hopefully she performs it on Tuesday and that will help give it another boost of life while these new songs debut (not that it is dead at all)
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 29, 2018 11:46:14 GMT -5
Simon Faulk predicts this to debut at #3 on the Hot 100 tomorrow.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 29, 2018 16:18:44 GMT -5
Simon Faulk predicts this to debut at #3 on the Hot 100 tomorrow. amazing, i would be happy with top 5 !
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Post by super2018 on Apr 29, 2018 16:47:10 GMT -5
Wherever it debuts will probably end up being its peak, so fingers crosses for the #3. It has a decent margin from #4 in the predictions. I love to see a song grow ! its more exciting.
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Post by graham on Apr 29, 2018 17:18:39 GMT -5
Definitely one of my favorites right now a top 3 debut would be great!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 21:55:18 GMT -5
This song is so good now. At first, I was like wtf is this but now I'm in love.
I cannot wait for her new album!!!!
YAAAASSSS. I hope this song carries through the summer, it seems like such a great song to drive with the windows down while blasting it.
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Post by Az Paynter on Apr 30, 2018 5:10:33 GMT -5
POP: 29 19 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 5062 2365 2697 33.160
+575 Spins +218 Bullet +2.599 Audience
HOT AC: 49 27 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 714 138 576 3.032
+119 Spins +85 Bullet +0.384 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 67 31 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 737 233 504 2.383
+94 Spins +50 Bullet +0.316 Audience
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Post by deepston on Apr 30, 2018 5:20:30 GMT -5
Smashing, this is heading straight to the top 10 on Pop.
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Post by Caviar on Apr 30, 2018 7:53:56 GMT -5
Wow! Hopefully this can reach #1 by the album release date.
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Post by Normi on Apr 30, 2018 7:55:08 GMT -5
Let's wait another week or two but so far I'm also more of the opinion it'll smash to #1
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Post by QAF on Apr 30, 2018 11:15:54 GMT -5
I finally heard this song and honestly don't know why it's doing so well. Ariana's voice is so thin.
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Post by Exclusive on Apr 30, 2018 11:32:45 GMT -5
Holy Update!!
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Post by allow that on Apr 30, 2018 11:47:42 GMT -5
Yeah this is a smash through and through. I think it'll end up becoming her signature song.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 30, 2018 11:55:16 GMT -5
with Rhythmic on her side, this looks like it will be an overall airplay #1 contender.
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 30, 2018 12:02:44 GMT -5
This will probably be an airplay #1 after Camila, unless Drake or Imagine Dragons gets it. My guess is that this will be #1 on airplay in about 3 weeks.
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Post by Glove Slap on Apr 30, 2018 12:12:48 GMT -5
#2 UK Midweeks. Nearly 6k behind Calvin and Dua, and 2.5k ahead of Drake. Spotify and Apple Music data is missing from Sunday.
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 30, 2018 13:23:32 GMT -5
Debuts at #3 on the Hot 100! Continues her run of debuting each lead single in the top ten. #1 on Digital Sales with 100,000 sales, the first song to beat 100,000 for three months. #5 on Streaming Songs with 37 million streams #35 on Radio songs. Her first solo top five and her highest peaking solo song. #2 Problem feat. Iggy Azalea* #3 Bang Bang with Jessie J & Nicki Minaj* #3 No Tears Left To Cry* #4 Break Free feat. Zedd #4 Side To Side feat. Nicki Minaj #7 Love Me Harder feat. The Weeknd #7 Focus* #8 Dangerous Woman* #9 The Way feat. Mac Miller* *Debuted in the top ten
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Apr 30, 2018 13:27:26 GMT -5
Queen Ari sets her own record who else🤷🏽♂️
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Post by deepston on Apr 30, 2018 13:34:29 GMT -5
Her streams were much better than expected! I hope this can go #1, radio looks fully onboard!
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Post by wjr15 on Apr 30, 2018 14:27:57 GMT -5
A #3 debut is great and matches her debut for Problem. I hope this ends up being her biggest hit to date and so far, that looks possible.
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Post by born on Apr 30, 2018 15:18:56 GMT -5
Her mind and power! Go girl! I really think this could have some longevity in the top 10. It might never repeak but it's great as it is!
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Post by deepston on Apr 30, 2018 18:22:26 GMT -5
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Post by dbhmr on Apr 30, 2018 20:35:02 GMT -5
Loving this more and more but finally watched the video and my god what a non-event.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 30, 2018 20:39:43 GMT -5
You do realize this had a radio deal (paying radio stations) and the song is discounted in its first week & able to be purchase multiple times on her website for cheap (practically giving it away), right? You really can’t be using those examples to shade if this act is engaging in similar behavior. A discount from 99 cent to 69 cent cant really be compared to an act selling a song for 49 cent when the standard cost of a CD single was around 4 dollars. Also a fan buying a song multiple times is the same thing as a fan buying multiple copies of an album, which happens ALL the time. OT this song gets more amazing with every listen. Her TONE alone.. LMAO the standard price for a regular CD single was never $4. Where were you shopping?
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Post by born on May 1, 2018 5:24:21 GMT -5
FOUR?!? Four Post Malone songs? The music industry has turned into utter trash.
Ps: I don’t have anything against Post Malone, I just hate the power of streaming, especially when that’s the main reason of my favorite artists’ floppage.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 1, 2018 5:32:51 GMT -5
POP: 29 18 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 5461 2824 2637 34.899
+399 Spins -60 Bullet +1.739 Audience
HOT AC: 45 26 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 806 178 628 3.344
+92 Spins +52 Bullet +0.312 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 59 29 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 838 283 555 2.610
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Post by leonagwen on May 1, 2018 10:30:41 GMT -5
I wanna ask this question: Why is J Cole, Post Malone and Drake dominating streaming? Is it fair to pop artists that rappers are dominating streaming and getting higher positions on the hot 100? What can Ariana and other pop stars that aren't rappers do to do better on streaming?
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Post by Oprah on May 1, 2018 10:31:35 GMT -5
I wanna ask this question: Why is J Cole, Post Malone and Drake dominating streaming? Is it fair to pop artists that rappers are dominating streaming and getting higher positions on the hot 100? What can Ariana and other pop stars that aren't rappers do to do better on streaming? Be more popular?
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