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Post by #brayden on Jul 13, 2018 11:59:53 GMT -5
This timing of the second single release coinciding with this hitting #1 on both pop and overall AI feels a bit more orchestrated than usual. Congrats, though. Maybe but this song looked to have a natural rise and has been selling and streaming very well. It took 11-12 weeks to hit num.1. That's not abnormal for an A lister pop star. I don't know to me it looks like the label just timed it well. I think it had a normal rise to the top on pop, but I can't help but find it odd that "Delicate" (which was poised to be the next overall AI #1) conveniently stalled on pop AI gains which resulted in this overtaking it on overall and achieving #1. And now that this is #1, "Delicate" is back to good AI updates.
I don't think it's a coincidence.
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Post by divasummer on Jul 13, 2018 12:06:56 GMT -5
Maybe but this song looked to have a natural rise and has been selling and streaming very well. It took 11-12 weeks to hit num.1. That's not abnormal for an A lister pop star. I don't know to me it looks like the label just timed it well. I think it had a normal rise to the top on pop, but I can't help but find it odd that "Delicate" (which was poised to be the next overall AI #1) conveniently stalled on pop AI gains which resulted in this overtaking it on overall and achieving #1. And now that this is #1, "Delicate" is back to good AI updates.
I don't think it's a coincidence.
Eh, maybe but I can't imagine the label saying make sure you play "Delicate" at different times so it's AI will be lower for "NTLTC" can hit num.1. I did think it looked strange that "Delicate" was gaining so many spins but not much if any in AI. I just don't think it was a ploy to let Ariana get num.1 on the AI based radio chart.
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 13, 2018 15:35:17 GMT -5
Maybe but this song looked to have a natural rise and has been selling and streaming very well. It took 11-12 weeks to hit num.1. That's not abnormal for an A lister pop star. I don't know to me it looks like the label just timed it well. I think it had a normal rise to the top on pop, but I can't help but find it odd that "Delicate" (which was poised to be the next overall AI #1) conveniently stalled on pop AI gains which resulted in this overtaking it on overall and achieving #1. And now that this is #1, "Delicate" is back to good AI updates.
I don't think it's a coincidence.
That's unfortunately how pop radio has been acting as a whole for the last year and a half. Notice how this stalled today and "Delicate" got a +200. These aren't coincidences. Now the timing of release of the second single? Meh, it was already scheduled to be released next week, but it looks like they pushed it up a week because their shot at #1 here came a bit earlier, she's #1 on overall AI too, so basically, the timing was perfect to move up the release one week rather than hold off on the final push on pop for one week. Good exposure begets more interest, and she'll undoubtedly get a few articles about being #1 on pop since it's her first with solo credit.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 14, 2018 5:11:10 GMT -5
Not thrilled about this potentially being #1 and done, especially when an overall radio #1 is on the line. :sip2:
POP: 2 1 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 16395 15690 705 94.557
+32 Spins -167 Bullet +0.565 Audience
HOT AC: 8 8 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4188 3998 190 24.610
+15 Spins -11 Bullet +0.084 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 12 12 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2367 2328 39 7.927
+7 Spins = Bullet +0.017 Audience
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Post by ILLUSION on Jul 14, 2018 19:17:03 GMT -5
#1 Overall AI
SO PROUD of my bitch. So well deserved, can't wait for single #2 to begin the smashing!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 14, 2018 19:40:52 GMT -5
I am still just as obsessed with this as I was when I first listened. Easily my favourite song of the year (and maybe since Into You came out). I am also still in love with the video. The bell sounds (or whatever they are) in the chorus are infectious. I just love this so much and I am so happy with how well it has done. Hopefully this can return to the top ten this week and spend a few more weeks there (15 weeks total would be great, hopefully 30+ on the chart overall). It is never going to repeak but it would be nice if it managed to get another week in the top 5 after the album release :)
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Post by Mazo on Jul 15, 2018 2:33:10 GMT -5
I’m kind of iffy on this doing well because so many people don’t like it, including me. It’s just TOO cheesy for me. I’m not surprised pop radio ate it up though
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 15, 2018 5:26:15 GMT -5
POP: 2 1 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 16395 15831 564 94.927
= Spins -141 Bullet +0.370 Audience
HOT AC: 8 8 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4228 4037 191 24.913
+40 Spins +1 Bullet +0.303 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 11 12 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2359 2359 0 7.955
-8 Spins -39 Bullet +0.028 Audience
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Post by Lumi on Jul 16, 2018 1:02:40 GMT -5
What the hell, are you joking Radio?
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 16, 2018 5:13:01 GMT -5
It’s literally #1. I want it to last weeks at the top as well but its callouts haven’t been anything amazing. Be happy with what we have
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Post by dhill92 on Jul 16, 2018 5:23:10 GMT -5
It’s literally #1. I want it to last weeks at the top as well but its callouts haven’t been anything amazing. Be happy with what we haveIf it just spends only one week at #1, then I'm fine with that.
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Post by tomgsinger on Jul 16, 2018 6:30:18 GMT -5
This got a -200 today. Bring on God is a Woman and get that fall smash Ari!
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 16, 2018 8:36:40 GMT -5
Yeah, there is nothing I like about this. :sip2:
POP: 2 1 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 16185 16001 184 94.634
-210 Spins -380 Bullet -0.293 Audience
HOT AC: 8 8 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4258 4078 180 24.897
+30 Spins -11 Bullet -0.016 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 11 13 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2359 2354 5 7.980
= Spins +5 Bullet +0.025 Audience
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Post by Lumi on Jul 16, 2018 15:24:33 GMT -5
Her first solo #1 and it's already free-falling goodbye.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 2:16:09 GMT -5
I thought it would be a multi-week #1.
It'll probably be another scenario of multiple revolving #1's again, so far we've gotten Mine and this
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 17, 2018 5:20:37 GMT -5
POP: 2 1 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 16054 16088 -34 94.418
-131 Spins -218 Bullet -0.216 Audience
HOT AC: 8 8 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4292 4111 181 24.998
+34 Spins +1 Bullet +0.101 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 12 12 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2353 2346 7 8.001
-6 Spins +2 Bullet +0.021 Audience
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Post by Lumi on Jul 17, 2018 11:18:45 GMT -5
This is ridiculous.
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 17, 2018 11:39:02 GMT -5
No way this was going to be a multi-week #1. Y'all are either turning a blind eye it haven't been paying attention to the charts recently. Delicate was literally poised to battle this for the top spot after The Middle, but Mine blew up suddenly, Delicate slowed way down, days after Mine hit the summit, this blew up, and now Delicate is skyrocketing as this tumbles.
After witnessing Mine's suspicious blow up to the top coupled with this one doing so as well, it became blatantly obvious all three were going to be single week number ones back to back in between The Middle and Girls Like You. These perfectly timed strategic pushes to number one are so obvious it's almost painful to watch. It cheapens the value of the number one spot if everyone and their brother can make it there as long as they hit the top five. At least it looks like Marshmello/Anne-Marie's teams are content with an organic peak. It will be the only song to go top five in the past month to not hit #1.
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Post by nick64 on Jul 17, 2018 11:52:58 GMT -5
No way this was going to be a multi-week #1. Y'all are either turning a blind eye it haven't been paying attention to the charts recently. Delicate was literally poised to battle this for the top spot after The Middle, but Mine blew up suddenly, Delicate slowed way down, days after Mine hit the summit, this blew up, and now Delicate is skyrocketing as this tumbles. After witnessing Mine's suspicious blow up to the top coupled with this one doing so as well, it became blatantly obvious all three were going to be single week number ones back to back in between The Middle and Girls Like You. These perfectly timed strategic pushes to number one are so obvious it's almost painful to watch. It cheapens the value of the number one spot if everyone and their brother can make it there as long as they hit the top five. At least it looks like Marshmello/Anne-Marie's teams are content with an organic peak. It will be the only song to go top five in the past month to not hit #1. When you say “The Middle”, do you mean “Psycho”?
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 17, 2018 16:45:48 GMT -5
No way this was going to be a multi-week #1. Y'all are either turning a blind eye it haven't been paying attention to the charts recently. Delicate was literally poised to battle this for the top spot after The Middle, but Mine blew up suddenly, Delicate slowed way down, days after Mine hit the summit, this blew up, and now Delicate is skyrocketing as this tumbles. After witnessing Mine's suspicious blow up to the top coupled with this one doing so as well, it became blatantly obvious all three were going to be single week number ones back to back in between The Middle and Girls Like You. These perfectly timed strategic pushes to number one are so obvious it's almost painful to watch. It cheapens the value of the number one spot if everyone and their brother can make it there as long as they hit the top five. At least it looks like Marshmello/Anne-Marie's teams are content with an organic peak. It will be the only song to go top five in the past month to not hit #1. When you say “The Middle”, do you mean “Psycho”? Yes. The Middle has been #1 so long on overall I forgot about Psycho being #1 after it on pop.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 18, 2018 5:14:37 GMT -5
POP: 2 1 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 15765 16209 -444 93.497
-289 Spins -410 Bullet -0.921 Audience
HOT AC: 8 8 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4303 4139 164 25.081
+11 Spins -17 Bullet +0.083 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 12 14 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2348 2349 -1 8.006
-5 Spins -8 Bullet +0.005 Audience
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Post by Normi on Jul 18, 2018 5:15:21 GMT -5
Payola?
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 18, 2018 5:16:54 GMT -5
IDK, but I'm not a fan of it dropping this fast. Unless they're converting the spins to GIAW, that is. :sip2:
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Post by Taylor. on Jul 18, 2018 8:36:51 GMT -5
It had mediocre-to-bad callouts, so the push to #1 and big drop isn't that surprising.
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Post by divasummer on Jul 18, 2018 11:03:29 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised the callouts were mediocre to bad considering it has sold and streamed pretty well.
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Post by Choco on Jul 18, 2018 11:04:34 GMT -5
Yeah, we've reached country-radio's level of chart manipulation at the top. I'm not mad because I love this song but still...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 15:17:30 GMT -5
Yeah, we've reached country-radio's level of chart manipulation at the top. I'm not mad because I love this song but still... I see it like: Outside of industry and fan bragging rights for a (radio) #1, it means very little anyway. It's all about audience size. Radio charts as a whole, while still a big industry tool (don't get me wrong), are pretty dated and pointless next to the streaming charts. It's a lot of industry games and transactions vs what is really in demand. Radio's always been that way. We've just never had such a viable and affordable alternative until now. They're already finding ways to manipulate streaming, but at least it's not all pre-programmed without the option to program it yourself.
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 19, 2018 0:24:13 GMT -5
When a song has been that successful in other plataforms, it may say more about how out of touch the “call out” system Is than the song itself. I would say it says more about the demographics of radio listeners being pretty different than streamers and digital downloaders. I think it's pretty clear that a large number of people that stream probably aren't listening to the radio and vice-versa.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 19, 2018 5:31:08 GMT -5
Holy f**k I didn't think radio would drop it this much this fast. POP:2 1 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 15449 16306 -857 92.388 -316 Spins -413 Bullet -1.109 Audience HOT AC:8 8 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 4327 4140 187 25.252 +24 Spins +23 Bullet +0.171 Audience RHYTHMIC:12 15 ARIANA GRANDE No Tears Left To Cry 2282 2354 -72 7.862 -66 Spins -71 Bullet -0.144 Audience
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Post by Lumi on Jul 19, 2018 12:23:39 GMT -5
At least it didn't start to drop RIGHT before #1...
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