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Post by NeRD on Jul 4, 2018 6:49:05 GMT -5
At least radio hasn't given up yet. Don't quite get why it's doing so bad in sales and streaming.
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Post by ilikemusic on Jul 4, 2018 15:21:25 GMT -5
I’ve heard this about 10 times now via the radio and still can not recall a single melody Okay, I wholeheartedly agreed with this until today. I listened to it several hours ago, listened to several songs since then, but guess which song is stuck in my head? The chorus is actually kind of infectious and it's so bizarre how in one play I went from not being able to remember the melody to having it stuck in my head hours later. The verses are still a melodic mess, though, even if they're lyrically wonderful. Hmm interesting. Still, I don’t think this was a good song to launch an era with. I respect the fact she writes her own songs and wants creative control but she needs some pop melody makers to simplify her stuff because a lot of it is too wordy. Here had a great melody. STYB, as much as I detest that song, was also catchy. She’s capable of it when she wants to be I feel like. It wouldn’t hurt for her to branch out from Pop & Oak too, the production sounds very 2016 to me.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 5, 2018 5:20:08 GMT -5
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Post by g8erboi on Jul 5, 2018 9:02:39 GMT -5
Alright, this is completely tanking on iTunes (out of the all-genre top 500 now)... This is going to hit a brick wall here within the next week or two. Surprised radio even got it this far tbh.
Still love this though. :/
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Post by AP on Jul 5, 2018 9:54:21 GMT -5
Why they even thought this would work in the first place is beyond me...
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Post by tinawina on Jul 5, 2018 11:07:44 GMT -5
Why they even thought this would work in the first place is beyond me... We don't know what their options are. What if this is the most radio-friendly song on the album? :o
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 6, 2018 5:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 13:50:55 GMT -5
I think no one saw it's piss poor itunes performances happening I also agree that I forgot most of the song, cause it is very akin to her debut I liked her debut a lot too though
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Post by Lumi on Jul 6, 2018 14:05:12 GMT -5
I know all the words lmao oops
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Post by rainie on Jul 6, 2018 17:20:25 GMT -5
Just listened to this again and I forgot how good it is — that string swell into the chorus is executed so so well. I’m really sad this is bombing, though I guess I can’t be too surprised for the same reason Meghan Trainor is flopping. Hopefully they can release a second single that’s more on trend before she loses momentum, though she just went the Lorde route and focused on making a great but fairly noncommercial album I’d be happy with that too.
Btw what’s the record for the highest a song has gotten on CHR without charging on the hot 100 (Besides songs that never got official single releases of course)? Would amusing but sad if this song actually managed to break that record.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 7, 2018 7:07:46 GMT -5
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Post by Lumi on Jul 7, 2018 13:09:32 GMT -5
I can't believe this is top 20.
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Post by Choco on Jul 7, 2018 13:52:07 GMT -5
Just listened to this again and I forgot how good it is — that string swell into the chorus is executed so so well. I’m really sad this is bombing, though I guess I can’t be too surprised for the same reason Meghan Trainor is flopping. Hopefully they can release a second single that’s more on trend before she loses momentum, though she just went the Lorde route and focused on making a great but fairly noncommercial album I’d be happy with that too. Btw what’s the record for the highest a song has gotten on CHR without charging on the hot 100 (Besides songs that never got official single releases of course)? Would amusing but sad if this song actually managed to break that record. I think Fifth Harmony's "That's My Girl" was either pretty close to top 20, or just inside when it finally managed to debut on the Hot 100 due to some discount.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 7, 2018 16:44:31 GMT -5
If you meant 'charting' instead of 'charging' I think the last song to do that is 'Glowing' by Nikki Williams, which made the top 20 on Pop but never reached the Hot 100.
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Post by theflying on Jul 7, 2018 18:55:54 GMT -5
RIP Nikki Williams’ pop career. Whatever happened to her
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 8, 2018 6:22:48 GMT -5
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Post by Lumi on Jul 8, 2018 8:41:16 GMT -5
Still gaining major spins. I don't understand what's happening with this song.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 9:44:41 GMT -5
If you meant 'charting' instead of 'charging' I think the last song to do that is 'Glowing' by Nikki Williams, which made the top 20 on Pop but never reached the Hot 100. Still a tragedy cause that song is one hell of a nostalgic electropop bop of the 2013s Also tragic that she fell off the map after that one other Friday song she had, which was not really good.
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Post by tinawina on Jul 8, 2018 10:17:29 GMT -5
Still gaining major spins. I don't understand what's happening with this song. Radio clearly loves her. They’ll keep going until they get bad callouts I guess.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jul 8, 2018 13:21:16 GMT -5
This won't even chart this week on BB Hot 100 thanks to Drake...
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 8, 2018 13:24:23 GMT -5
This won't even chart this week on BB Hot 100 thanks to Drake... Would it even have had enough points to chart otherwise?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 22:42:52 GMT -5
Still gaining major spins. I don't understand what's happening with this song. Radio clearly loves her. They’ll keep going until they get bad callouts I guess. I've noticed with several songs in the past year or so that they 'charge' up CHR before callout comes in. I suspect it's less about radio loving these artists and more about their labels pushing them heavily to PDs in an attempt to get as high a peak as possible before being reliant on callouts, streaming, and sales. Often by the time callout comes in these songs have reached the top 15 or are even within a spot or two of top 10, making it easier for the label to make a final push for that top 10 peak (or at least get a decent-ish Hot 100 peak) if it turns out the song is not so well-liked. They don't always succeed at this effort but that seems to be the intent. Obvious problem being that this trick only works so many times before radio figures that you're audience poison and leave you alone.
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Post by tinawina on Jul 8, 2018 22:57:21 GMT -5
I've noticed with several songs in the past year or so that they 'charge' up CHR before callout comes in. I suspect it's less about radio loving these artists and more about their labels pushing them heavily to PDs in an attempt to get as high a peak as possible before being reliant on callouts, streaming, and sales. Often by the time callout comes in these songs have reached the top 15 or are even within a spot or two of top 10, making it easier for the label to make a final push for that top 10 peak (or at least get a decent-ish Hot 100 peak) if it turns out the song is not so well-liked. They don't always succeed at this effort but that seems to be the intent. Obvious problem being that this trick only works so many times before radio figures that you're audience poison and leave you alone. Ah that makes sense! Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by Lumi on Jul 8, 2018 23:56:39 GMT -5
I hope it can get at least in the Top 10 but I feel like it won't happen.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 9, 2018 8:43:55 GMT -5
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Post by Lumi on Jul 9, 2018 9:05:22 GMT -5
This finally played on my radio station, but the original. Not the extended one with the final chorus. Really curious as to how that sounds
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Jul 9, 2018 19:24:34 GMT -5
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 9, 2018 19:44:37 GMT -5
Holy shit, that's actually impressive. I didn't think her points were increasing enough to even make it, but to do so with the Drake onslaught is quite a feat.
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Post by Lumi on Jul 9, 2018 23:43:05 GMT -5
Yes! I'm glad it made it.
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Post by nick64 on Jul 9, 2018 23:46:19 GMT -5
Holy s**t, that's actually impressive. I didn't think her points were increasing enough to even make it, but to do so with the Drake onslaught is quite a feat. The Drake onslaught caused so many recurrents from last week's Top 50 that the bottom half of the chart really isn't all that bad lol. Chris Lane's song jumped 20 spots.
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