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Post by World top 40 on Mar 2, 2019 12:36:42 GMT -5
I don't know if her career is over, but what I think is pretty clear is that she can't drop a song and hope it'll do well without any promotion besides the music video. I hope she'll perform it on AI, but recently she did an interview with Jimmy Kimmel (i think) and she didn't even mention the song. Another thing is that she should improve her public image. I don't know how, but it's evident that she won't get any hit being one of the most "disliked" pop singers at the moment. In my opinion, the drastic change in public image and behavior after CTTR is one of the main reasons people doesn't like her as much as they did before. When I talk about behavior I mean that goofy personality. I know she has been like this since the beginnig, but not as much. For this reason I think her marriage and focusing in her private life is better for her than releasing anything new. She'll get more inspiration and probably her public image will improve, although she should do something to stay relevant at least. Finally, and this is something i'm not sure about, could it be possible that her voice had changed? I mean, in my opinion the way she sings since Witness is different than before, although I noticed that in some songs, like Last Friday Night, she sings some parts with the same voice she sings currently. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who hears it, but I prefer her old voice...
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Post by Rumors on Mar 2, 2019 12:58:31 GMT -5
I think Katy needs to look towards the future and start to grow with her fanbase a little bit. She can write some good songs and she's a good enough singer to have a sustained career into her late 30s (34 now). IMO, she needs to explore more of her Teenage Dream sound....modernize it. I think that was was one of her stronger songs. Maybe some strong acoustic songs on the next album. Bottom line....do a more straight up singer/songwriter album with the Katy touch. I would even go so far as picking one producer to do the entire album. Get a cohesive sound going and make some strong music. As my favorite singer/songwriter always says, its always about the SONG, the SONG, the SONG and Katy's last few songs just haven't been very good. Take away the production and there's just not been much to the songs themselves.
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Post by NeRD on Mar 2, 2019 14:39:42 GMT -5
I think next era she needs to focus on catering more toward Hot AC (she already does, but I'm saying she should look to that format for success from here on out).
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Mar 2, 2019 18:04:14 GMT -5
Katy Perry's Muted Chart Return: What Does '365' Tell Us About The Superstar's Current Place in Pop?2/28/2019 by Jason Lipshutz The Zedd collaboration debuts on this week's Hot 100, but may lack the momentum to return Perry to the top of the chart. Here’s something you may have missed on this week’s Hot 100: the return of one of the most dominant pop stars of the past decade. Katy Perry has made her way back onto the chart with “365,” a collaboration with dance-pop mastermind Zedd. Outside of a Dear Evan Hansen song that Perry re-recorded and an Amazon-exclusive holiday track released last year, the single is Perry’s first new music since the 2017 Witness era, and Zedd’s first A-list collaboration since the world-conquering, Grammy-nominated song “The Middle” with Maren Morris and Grey. Zedd has proven adaptable to modern pop trends, updating his sound since breaking through a half-decade ago in order to survive the EDM bubble bursting, and scoring his biggest hit to date last year. Meanwhile, Perry returns as a judge on American Idol this weekend, with “365” presumably teed up for a performance on this season of the revitalized show. Throw in a gaudy sci-fi music video that coincided with the song’s release, and we should have a high-profile pop track designed to rule the spring! Except “365” just debuted at No. 86 on the Hot 100, a notably quiet start given the star power involved. Maybe the single needs time to catch on at radio, gradually becomes a hit and sends Perry back to the top tier of the Hot 100. Or maybe it becomes one of the lowest-charting singles of Perry’s career. For other pop artists, the underperformance of a stopgap single in between album eras would not be a cause for alarm. But for Perry, the low debut continues a somewhat worrisome trend. The arrival of and initial reception to “365” have been so muted that it’s worth wondering what the single, with its seemingly low stakes but high production value, signals about Perry’s next proper full-length. Following the tepid reception to Witness, with its political overtones and thinly veiled swipes at a certain pop rival, Perry could use a win. Based on early returns, “365” might not be it. At the beginning of this decade, Perry was the most bankable pop singles artist in the country. The most memorable of her many statistical achievements: the five No. 1 Hot 100 singles achieved from one album, 2010’s Teenage Dream, matching the record set by Michael Jackson with his Bad album decades earlier. Yet Perry’s Top 40 radio popularity was not lightning in a bottle, and lasted well longer than one full-length: She scored two No. 1 singles before that Teenage Dream run, with her 2008 debut One of the Boys, and has had three more chart-toppers since Teenage Dream; every single released from its follow-up, 2013’s Prism, at least reached the Top 40. Witness was largely considered a misstep upon release, but still scored a No. 1 debut on the Billboard 200 chart, and featured a lead single, “Chained To The Rhythm,” that debuted at No. 4 on the Hot 100. In between, she’s headlined the Super Bowl halftime show, played arenas around the world and been the subject of one surprisingly moving tour documentary. Perry’s sound has not evolved a dramatic amount over the course of her career -- buoyant radio-pop, with detours into pop-rock and dance, and room for occasional melancholy and guest rap verses -- but it hasn’t needed to. With a knack for delivering rousing choruses that Top 40 radio can spin ad nauseam, Perry has watched her hit singles achieve a long-lasting ubiquity, and power her various album eras. To understand Perry’s run over her first four albums is to consider a type of pop culture omnipresence that never sags for too long; even when you’re not paying close attention to her, she’s often playing on the radio in the background. So what happens when a hit streak like Perry’s faces a potential dry spell? “Chained to the Rhythm” may have cracked the Top 10, but it plummeted shortly after, while the follow-up singles from Witness -- including “Bon Apetit” featuring Migos and the Nicki Minaj-assisted “Swish Swish" -- never took off, each missing the Top 40. As streaming has become ever more crucial to chart success over the past half-decade, dance-based pop, Perry's bread and butter, has had a more difficult time climbing to the upper reaches of the Hot 100, taking a backseat to hip-hop. On this week’s chart, for instance, “365” was outshone by the debuts of hip-hop artists like Cardi B (starting at No. 5 with her latest Bruno mars collaboration, “Please Me”), Juice WRLD (bowing at No. 27 with “Robbery”) and Offset (a No. 49 start with “Red Room”). Here’s the silver lining for Perry: “365” is not the slam-dunk that necessarily would be expected to return the singer to her previous chart heights, anyway. Over a restrained collection of rhythms from Zedd, Perry unleashes a nondescript story of romantic devotion that culminates in a catchy, surprisingly downbeat hook. It’s a well-constructed single that wouldn’t crack either artist’s individual Top 5. On paper, “365” is a much-ballyhooed collaboration with a proven hitmaker, but the song never takes off in the way that made Perry’s biggest hits resonate for weeks on end. Instead of focusing on the lackluster start for “365,” Perry fans should hope that another recent collaboration provide the starting point for her post-Witness era. “Feels,” the 2017 Calvin Harris track that featured Perry, Big Sean and Pharrell Williams and climbed to No. 20 on the Hot 100, found Perry at her most playful in recent memory, stretching out over an island-funk beat on the song’s chorus. Granted, Big Sean and Williams provide the heavy lifting on “Feels,” but Perry’s breezy hook anchors the track, and undoubtedly turned it into a hit two years ago. In retrospect, the levity of “Feels” was curiously missing from Perry’s heavy-handed Witness album, which was released concurrently and, with its sporadic forays into political themes, didn’t particularly play to the singer’s natural strengths. At this point, Perry’s legacy is safe if she never records another inescapable hit, regardless of how well “365” performs in the coming weeks. If Perry channels the chill vibes of “Feels” into the foundation of her next album, though, she may be able to end the current drought and pick up some new momentum. Enjoy “365,” move on from it if you’re so inclined, but don’t count out Perry’s ability to survive and thrive in the next decade. www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8500384/katy-perry-365-chart-return-zedd-analysis
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Post by balletgirlmom on Mar 2, 2019 21:40:56 GMT -5
I love 365. I hope radio gives it a shot!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 23:29:08 GMT -5
I’m surprised so many of y’all are surprised how it’s performing lol.
I love Katy but this never sounded like it was going to be a big hit at all, and her power as pop star may be considerably less than it was but this song isn’t the best indicator to go by. The video is basically what carries the single.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Mar 2, 2019 23:41:19 GMT -5
Eh I think in her heyday this would be an easy Pop #1.
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Post by Choco on Mar 3, 2019 0:30:27 GMT -5
Yeah... but the type of songs she made during her heyday aren't "in" right now. Which is part of the problem.
There's been very little growth creatively since Teenage Dream... if anything, Witness felt like a regression.
Also I love "Feels" and Katy but anyone could have done that chorus. I sometimes think Calvin asked her to be on the song just to spite a certain ex... the BB article is giving her way too much credit for that one.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 3, 2019 6:27:34 GMT -5
POP: 33 29 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2593 1628 965 7.432
+155 Spins -27 Bullet +0.638 Audience
HOT AC: 40 38 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 319 190 129 0.761
+24 Spins +9 Bullet +0.060 Audience
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Post by leonagwen on Mar 3, 2019 10:18:12 GMT -5
I see this peaking somewhere between #15 to #25.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 4, 2019 7:21:12 GMT -5
POP: 32 28 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2719 1815 904 7.888
+126 Spins -61 Bullet +0.456 Audience
HOT AC: 39 37 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 333 212 121 0.789
+14 Spins -8 Bullet +0.028 Audience
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Post by rfucom on Mar 4, 2019 7:39:08 GMT -5
hmmm that bullet.......
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 4, 2019 7:51:03 GMT -5
...is still +900. :sip2:
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Post by rfucom on Mar 4, 2019 8:16:09 GMT -5
I love zedd and want katy to have a hit. i hope this will stabilize.
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Post by nickd on Mar 4, 2019 11:21:58 GMT -5
This is around when Delicate started to slow down in the 20s on Pop.
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Post by vithor on Mar 4, 2019 11:35:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't call three digit updates a slow down, though
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 5, 2019 6:33:35 GMT -5
POP: 31 28 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2827 1975 852 8.121
+108 Spins -52 Bullet +0.233 Audience
HOT AC: 38 37 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 344 227 117 0.771
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 10:32:03 GMT -5
Falls off of the Hot 100.
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Post by divasummer on Mar 5, 2019 11:31:25 GMT -5
I love this but I can see why it may not take off as fast as some of her prior work. I don't even know the chorus of this yet at all. I just know the lyrics are sped up during them and it's called "365". Katy's music or should I say most popular songs always has a really strong sing along chorus where this just doesn't. Maybe that's affecting the chart performance some???
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Post by Caviar on Mar 5, 2019 11:41:12 GMT -5
I still think it will be a modest hit.
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 5, 2019 14:32:19 GMT -5
I think this will end up performing similar to Feels on radio, which in my book would be a win for Katy in 2019.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 5, 2019 16:05:08 GMT -5
I think this will end up performing similar to Feels on radio, which in my book would be a win for Katy in 2019. Until the call out scores kill it like they did to both Feels and Chained To The Rhythm once they reached the Top 10 I'm hoping that doesn't happen and this gets some great reception at Pop, Love Lies was sitting in the Top 40 for like five months before it had great call out scores and soared to #1.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 6, 2019 6:43:18 GMT -5
Urgh. POP:31 28 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2841 2158 683 8.242 +14 Spins -169 Bullet +0.121 Audience HOT AC:38 36 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 353 246 107 0.833 +9 Spins -10 Bullet +0.062 Audience
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Post by Future Captain on Mar 6, 2019 10:00:22 GMT -5
Oh come on. I was rooting for a Katy song for once and it decided to do this :(
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Post by g8erboi on Mar 6, 2019 10:19:22 GMT -5
This reminds me of Swish Swish’s run :’(
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Post by nickd on Mar 6, 2019 12:43:43 GMT -5
It went further than Swish Swish, but yeah... this doesn't look good.
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Post by Caviar on Mar 6, 2019 12:44:03 GMT -5
The audience gain is impressive!
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Post by divasummer on Mar 6, 2019 13:31:43 GMT -5
Could a performance or promo on "American Idol" help this??? Does Idol do well??? I was shocked that it came back for a second season. It had only left a few years prior....
How did her "Witness" tour do in the US??? I'm assuming and heard well but were all the tickets truly sold or were there empty seats everywhere?? I thought were she had a motion picture out in the theaters a few years ago that the public wouldn't dismiss her as quickly.
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Post by irice22 on Mar 6, 2019 13:33:24 GMT -5
Jesus, people, it's one kind of bad update!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 14:13:34 GMT -5
she is not THAT right now and the song is alright, nothing more
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