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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 25, 2019 17:42:40 GMT -5
Sometimes songs can do well even if they are doing poorly on Itunes/Spotify and I feel like this will be one of them. Like, not the type of song that blows up on streaming but people like it anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 18:06:07 GMT -5
Debuts at #86 on the Hot 100.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Feb 25, 2019 18:15:46 GMT -5
Sometimes songs can do well even if they are doing poorly on Itunes/Spotify and I feel like this will be one of them. Like, not the type of song that blows up on streaming but people like it anyway. Love Lies, Lights Down Low, I Like Me Better
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 25, 2019 18:32:41 GMT -5
Daily Spins 14-Feb 188 15-Feb 103 16-Feb 117 17-Feb 106 18-Feb 163 19-Feb 185 20-Feb 259 21-Feb 299 22-Feb 317 23-Feb 301 24-Feb 292 Seems to be slowing down a bit... +292 is not slowing down. 292 was the total spin count for the day, not the spin gain. Anyway I'm not sure why we're worried about the rate this is progressing on radio. Katy's last two pop radio singles were duds, limiting her ability to gain momentum. Zedd, meanwhile, flopped with his last radio single ('Are You Happy Now') and he doesn't have the most consistent track record anyway. Immediacy should not be the expectation here. A steady build is preferable, if a little bit slower than people would like. Which for the record, it's not even going slowly at the moment.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 25, 2019 20:08:58 GMT -5
Daily Spins 14-Feb 188 15-Feb 103 16-Feb 117 17-Feb 106 18-Feb 163 19-Feb 185 20-Feb 259 21-Feb 299 22-Feb 317 23-Feb 301 24-Feb 292 Seems to be slowing down a bit... I remember when somebody did this for Unconditionallly all the way up to the Top 10. It always seemed as if it was going to peak early, but it kept surprising people. And by early, I mean the teens somewhere. So I kinda take that stuff with a grain of salt.
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Post by nickd on Feb 25, 2019 20:35:32 GMT -5
Comparison of daily spins for 365 vs Delicate up to right before it's peak (there was a panel change the day before its peak that messed it all up) First black dot is when Delicate debuted on HAC callouts, second black dot is Pop callout debut. So Delicate started out decently steady, then slowed down and started to look like it was going to stall in the 20s on the pop charts, and then started picking up steam about a week before debuting on HAC callouts (I wonder if radio stations get access to those before they're made public?). So back to 365, although it did drop on daily spins for 2 days in a row, Delicate did that for 1 day before recovering early in its run, and for a few consecutive days at certain points in the middle of its run.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 22:46:12 GMT -5
Thank you for making these graphs. I'm appreciating the insight you're giving via these analyses.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 26, 2019 7:07:14 GMT -5
POP: 46 31 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 1975 677 1298 5.928
+161 Spins -2 Bullet +0.288 Audience
HOT AC: 45 38 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 227 110 117 0.705
+15 Spins -8 Bullet -0.035 Audience
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Post by kcdawg13 on Feb 26, 2019 13:00:37 GMT -5
I could see this going Top 20 based entirely on how weak the songs ahead of this are, every track to #15 isn't really gaining momentum aside from Please Me and break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored.
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Post by nickd on Feb 26, 2019 13:09:46 GMT -5
Today's pop update was an improvement, we're back in the clear.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Feb 26, 2019 15:52:07 GMT -5
Love your work Nickd! So nice to see these graphs haha.
Rooting for this song heaps, I like both artists involved and this song in particular sounds awesome! For curiousities sake, I listen to the instrumental of it and was pretty surprised at the layers, especially the inclusion of an acoustic instrumental on the chorus :O
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 27, 2019 7:06:20 GMT -5
POP: 44 31 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2157 863 1294 6.288
+182 Spins -4 Bullet +0.360 Audience
HOT AC: 45 38 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 245 135 110 0.707
+18 Spins -7 Bullet +0.002 Audience
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 27, 2019 14:00:27 GMT -5
How many adds did it get this week?
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Post by divasummer on Feb 27, 2019 14:05:59 GMT -5
Not that I mind but why are we comparing this to Taylor's "Delicate"?? Don't get me wrong I like the graph but why "Delicate"??
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Post by nickd on Feb 27, 2019 14:14:56 GMT -5
Not that I mind but why are we comparing this to Taylor's "Delicate"?? Don't get me wrong I like the graph but why "Delicate"?? Because I already had data for Delicate and it's also a radio driven hit. I also have the first few days for Rise, Bon Appetit and Swish Swish and it seems to be doing better than the last two. As for Rise, 365 is starting to look a bit better on spins but not as good on AI.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Feb 27, 2019 14:17:55 GMT -5
I wonder how big Rise would’ve actually been had Katy not claimed it for Hillary’s campaign, which in turn cancelled its Olympic coverage.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 27, 2019 14:30:15 GMT -5
I liked "Rise"!
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Post by musiciscool on Feb 27, 2019 17:49:39 GMT -5
How many adds did it get this week? It received 27 adds this week.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 28, 2019 7:06:35 GMT -5
POP: 39 31 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2303 1122 1181 6.547
+146 Spins -113 Bullet +0.259 Audience
HOT AC: 44 38 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 269 159 110 0.718
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 13:26:32 GMT -5
Billboard really didn’t have to write that article.
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Post by nickd on Feb 28, 2019 14:39:41 GMT -5
Spins are still great (these are the weekly/last 7 days values, not the daily ones I posted earlier).
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 1, 2019 7:07:43 GMT -5
POP: 38 31 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2408 1232 1176 6.813
+105 Spins -5 Bullet +0.266 Audience
HOT AC: 44 38 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 282 165 117 0.688
+13 Spins +7 Bullet -0.030 Audience
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Post by Caviar on Mar 1, 2019 8:04:25 GMT -5
Rise lotus rise up
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Post by rainie on Mar 1, 2019 16:46:21 GMT -5
Not that I mind but why are we comparing this to Taylor's "Delicate"?? Don't get me wrong I like the graph but why "Delicate"?? Because I already had data for Delicate and it's also a radio driven hit. I also have the first few days for Rise, Bon Appetit and Swish Swish and it seems to be doing better than the last two. As for Rise, 365 is starting to look a bit better on spins but not as good on AI. Delicate is also an interesting comparison for me as it was somewhat of a comeback hit for Swift. i know that feels weird to say about one of the biggest pop stars in the world, but she was coming off two flops and a high peaking purge so momentum was not on her side. anyways, even though this is a lead, its a pretty similar situation for Katy if you compare it to her Witness singles (which did even worse then the Rep singles).
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Post by Choco on Mar 1, 2019 17:18:16 GMT -5
I'm not loving the numbers outside of Pop radio tbh. American Idol can't come soon enough.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 2, 2019 7:13:28 GMT -5
POP: 36 31 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2438 1446 992 6.794
+30 Spins -274 Bullet -0.019 Audience
HOT AC: 42 38 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 295 175 120 0.701
+13 Spins +3 Bullet +0.013 Audience
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Mar 2, 2019 9:43:09 GMT -5
It’s so sad...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2019 10:04:18 GMT -5
so there are 2 things to consider: at first she tried her hotness within the project not her own and it´s not good and the second - now if she ever wants to have another top 10 - her first single has to be a bomb - something exceptional, otherwise her pop career is over
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Post by pcg4 on Mar 2, 2019 11:57:27 GMT -5
I don't know if her career is over, but what I think is pretty clear is that she can't drop a song and hope it'll do well without any promotion besides the music video. I hope she'll perform it on AI, but recently she did an interview with Jimmy Kimmel (i think) and she didn't even mention the song.
Another thing is that she should improve her public image. I don't know how, but it's evident that she won't get any hit being one of the most "disliked" pop singers at the moment. In my opinion, the drastic change in public image and behavior after CTTR is one of the main reasons people doesn't like her as much as they did before. When I talk about behavior I mean that goofy personality. I know she has been like this since the beginnig, but not as much. For this reason I think her marriage and focusing in her private life is better for her than releasing anything new. She'll get more inspiration and probably her public image will improve, although she should do something to stay relevant at least.
Finally, and this is something i'm not sure about, could it be possible that her voice had changed? I mean, in my opinion the way she sings since Witness is different than before, although I noticed that in some songs, like Last Friday Night, she sings some parts with the same voice she sings currently. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who hears it, but I prefer her old voice...
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Post by nickd on Mar 2, 2019 12:03:18 GMT -5
Could JoBros' radio deal eating into its spins be a big part of the reason why Friday's update wasn't as good? Maybe it'll look better tomorrow since afaik the spins for songs with radio deals are much higher on day 1 than day 2?
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