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Post by leonagwen on Mar 6, 2019 17:24:14 GMT -5
The sales are the problem. If it was doing better on iTunes and Spotify, radio would give it a chance.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 7, 2019 6:33:09 GMT -5
Damn it radio! POP:31 27 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2857 2303 554 8.315 +16 Spins -129 Bullet +0.073 Audience HOT AC:38 36 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 360 270 90 0.838 +7 Spins -17 Bullet +0.005 Audience
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 14:55:22 GMT -5
I'm still surprised CTTR didn't smash, lol. That was the most concerning release out of any of these, especially bc it was actually a classic Katy bop (and a really good one at that).
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Post by Lumi on Mar 7, 2019 16:12:21 GMT -5
Please, the one Katy song I decide to root for and Pop Radio does this?
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 8, 2019 1:38:15 GMT -5
This sounds so great while driving
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 2:17:46 GMT -5
maybe it´s time for katy to go to politics
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Post by Snowbeast on Mar 8, 2019 2:23:06 GMT -5
She’s lost her identity and hasn’t rebranded properly.
Gaga struggled the same way she is now. A lifetime achievement-icon level of career success, forecefed into an 6 year span. When the stock falls, it’s figuring out what to do next. A Star Is Born came after a lot of underperformances for Gaga. As long as Katy channels her connections and abilty into a new medium/brand & sound, the name alone will carry her.
She can’t regurgitate pop tunes without addressing the bigger picture of fading relevance though. It’s called the drawing board for a reason.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 8, 2019 3:47:09 GMT -5
She’s lost her identity and hasn’t rebranded properly. Gaga struggled the same way she is now. A lifetime achievement-icon level of career success, forecefed into an 6 year span. When the stock falls, it’s figuring out what to do next. A Star Is Born came after a lot of underperformances for Gaga. As long as Katy channels her connections and abilty into a new medium/brand & sound, the name alone will carry her. She can’t regurgitate pop tunes without addressing the bigger picture of fading relevance though. It’s called the drawing board for a reason. I really like the futuristic aesthetic from this track and video and it had me thinking how cool an entire album of videos with this aesthetic could be. Maybe rebrand with this look, and maybe recruit producers like Daft Punk or Gesaffelstein to help achieve a certain sound. Honestly I think she shouldn't focus on getting a hit and should focus on having a good album under her belt, Katy's never been a critical darling and that's because her albums are not good. If she actually attempts to create a great album instead of chasing hits, she could get some actual critical success.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 8, 2019 6:43:54 GMT -5
...why...
POP: 31 27 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2868 2409 459 8.284
+11 Spins -95 Bullet -0.031 Audience
HOT AC: 38 35 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 369 282 87 0.822
+9 Spins -3 Bullet -0.016 Audience
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Post by Future Captain on Mar 8, 2019 6:46:45 GMT -5
If these kind of update continue this might not even hit top 20. They don't really have much to save this, since the video is already out and I can't see live performance giving this anything other than temporary small bumps.
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Post by upsidedown on Mar 8, 2019 6:55:09 GMT -5
I hate to be superficial, and it's unfortunate it has to be this way, but that haircut is really doing her no favors.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 8:05:03 GMT -5
Here we fucking go again.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 8, 2019 11:00:09 GMT -5
I hope it picks up. I've noticed the song has been popping up on youtube/spotify more when playing music at work (not just on my accounts). So I hope it's a sign the song is starting to increase more in streaming.
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Post by World top 40 on Mar 8, 2019 14:15:59 GMT -5
Another song, as soon as posible. This song is a nightmare for Katy and Zedd.
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Post by nickd on Mar 8, 2019 14:40:12 GMT -5
I hope it picks up. I've noticed the song has been popping up on youtube/spotify more when playing music at work (not just on my accounts). So I hope it's a sign the song is starting to increase more in streaming. Spotify looks like it's still decreasing by 15-20% per week. Youtube is decreasing by about 5-10% per week but it's at a pretty low point already. Tomorrow's update will probably look deceptively better, since the spins number will be comparing today's spins to last Friday's. Last Friday was JoBro's radio debut which ate into a lot of artist's spins, and there doesn't seem to be a comparably large single/radio deal for today, so 365's spins for today should be better than last Friday's. However, with the way things are looking, I think there's a rather high likelihood that Sunday morning's report will show 365 having a negative update for the first time because last Saturday was 365's daily spin peak. 365's AI has always been rather low compared to it's spins, making it seem like mostly just small stations are playing it. Those might not use as detailed research and algorithms to determine what songs to play, and unlike bigger stations, maybe not have picked up on it's underperformance on iTunes and streaming as much. The small stations might have just gone "ooh new Katy Perry" and "ooh it's on the Hot 100". But now that they're seeing it's fallen off the Hot 100 and that it's slowing down on radio, I think we might be starting to see more of a reluctance to play it?
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 9, 2019 8:00:48 GMT -5
A step back in the right direction.
POP: 31 26 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 2944 2438 506 8.553
+76 Spins +47 Bullet +0.269 Audience
HOT AC: 38 33 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 379 295 84 0.839
+10 Spins -3 Bullet +0.017 Audience
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Post by collin on Mar 9, 2019 9:18:38 GMT -5
This isn’t going anywhere. It’s shocking how far they both fell when this song has all the makings of a hit.
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Post by gabe on Mar 9, 2019 9:33:55 GMT -5
This isn’t going anywhere. It’s shocking how far they both fell when this song has all the makings of a hit. They did like no promo for this, but The Middle was shoved down our throats
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Post by Normi on Mar 9, 2019 10:07:42 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with this song, it's amazing and will end up as one of my personal faves of 2019
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Mar 9, 2019 15:25:02 GMT -5
Meh
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 10, 2019 7:22:33 GMT -5
POP: 27 26 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 3009 2601 408 8.931
+65 Spins -98 Bullet +0.378 Audience
HOT AC: 37 33 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 387 320 67 0.812
+8 Spins -17 Bullet -0.027 Audience
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Post by nickd on Mar 10, 2019 12:57:13 GMT -5
Damn, an extra 65 spins over last Saturday (which was it's peak in daily spins up until now) and about 100 more spins than it's been getting on the last few days. Maybe there's still hope after all.
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Post by collin on Mar 11, 2019 2:14:08 GMT -5
This isn’t going anywhere. It’s shocking how far they both fell when this song has all the makings of a hit. They did like no promo for this, but The Middle was shoved down our throats How was that more promoted?
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Post by Anticonformity on Mar 11, 2019 3:00:01 GMT -5
They did like no promo for this, but The Middle was shoved down our throats How was that more promoted? BABY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST MEET ME IN THE MIDDLE OF TARGET?
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 11, 2019 7:13:12 GMT -5
POP: 28 25 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 3071 2724 347 9.637
+62 Spins -61 Bullet +0.706 Audience
HOT AC: 37 31 ZEDD & KATY PERRY 365 411 333 78 0.825
+24 Spins +11 Bullet +0.013 Audience
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Post by Legenderry on Mar 11, 2019 8:16:32 GMT -5
That audience gain is much more like it. It needs those consistently to rise back up iTunes.
Its audience gains have been so minimal almost the entire run so far, no wonder it plummeted down after the first week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 9:23:18 GMT -5
They did like no promo for this, but The Middle was shoved down our throats How was that more promoted? The full video was premiered as a Target ad during the Grammys and then got played in 30-second commercials for the next several weeks. It didn't get a first day airplay deal, yet immediately received gains so huge that it was already top 30 on pop after the first week of airplay, top 20 after the second, and top 10 by week five - radio jumped on it as if it was an A-list release despite neither Zedd, Maren, nor Grey being A-list. Someone even said in Middle's thread that its updates reminded him of 2011 Katy's radio domination. Needless to say, 365 doesn't have any of those things going for it.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 11, 2019 17:09:09 GMT -5
Song was played at my work yesterday and people were shazaming it, that's a good sign I think.
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Post by hitmakaontharise on Mar 11, 2019 18:54:07 GMT -5
Honestly feel like this will be a huge summer hit, which I thought Zedd was good at .. anyways this songs boos and plays in my head all day.
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Post by cause_for_celebration on Mar 11, 2019 19:17:50 GMT -5
I absolutely looooove this song
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