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Post by classiccountryfan on Sept 20, 2018 23:17:20 GMT -5
I'm looking at the Jan 6th issue and it shows Ronnie was #1 the week before. But it shows the same chart position for the previous 2 weeks for every song so I'm thinking the unpublished week was shown as the previous week there? EDIT: Looking closer it does say Highway 101 was at its 2nd week at the top. Yet it says it was #2 the week before. I don’t see a previous week shown at all for Highway 101 on the Dec. 30 chart. The 2 is for weeks at #1, not the previous week. My guess would be that Billboard considered it unnecessary to show the previous week for a multiple-week #1; it would simply be implied that it was #1 the previous week. For Ronnie Milsap, the chart shows #15 for the previous week; the #1 shown is the peak position, not the previous week. Every song on the Jan. 6 chart was in the same position as the Dec. 30 chart; that was due to the frozen chart over the holidays that existed at the time.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 21, 2018 11:06:22 GMT -5
1990 to 1993 posted! Will try to post more later today.
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Post by gardyfan on Sept 21, 2018 12:09:56 GMT -5
I'm looking at the Jan 6th issue and it shows Ronnie was #1 the week before. But it shows the same chart position for the previous 2 weeks for every song so I'm thinking the unpublished week was shown as the previous week there? EDIT: Looking closer it does say Highway 101 was at its 2nd week at the top. Yet it says it was #2 the week before. I don’t see a previous week shown at all for Highway 101 on the Dec. 30 chart. The 2 is for weeks at #1, not the previous week. My guess would be that Billboard considered it unnecessary to show the previous week for a multiple-week #1; it would simply be implied that it was #1 the previous week. For Ronnie Milsap, the chart shows #15 for the previous week; the #1 shown is the peak position, not the previous week. Every song on the Jan. 6 chart was in the same position as the Dec. 30 chart; that was due to the frozen chart over the holidays that existed at the time. I was not looking at Billboard's site. This was a screen shot of the chart from that issue. I will post it when the site with it is back up, as it is down right now. But this shows that the previous 2 weeks were the same chart, not the Jan 6th chart. And I know that the 2 is for weeks at #1. The issue I was looking at shows Highway 101 was 2nd the previous 2 weeks.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Sept 21, 2018 16:20:25 GMT -5
I don’t see a previous week shown at all for Highway 101 on the Dec. 30 chart. The 2 is for weeks at #1, not the previous week. My guess would be that Billboard considered it unnecessary to show the previous week for a multiple-week #1; it would simply be implied that it was #1 the previous week. For Ronnie Milsap, the chart shows #15 for the previous week; the #1 shown is the peak position, not the previous week. Every song on the Jan. 6 chart was in the same position as the Dec. 30 chart; that was due to the frozen chart over the holidays that existed at the time. I was not looking at Billboard's site. This was a screen shot of the chart from that issue. I will post it when the site with it is back up, as it is down right now. But this shows that the previous 2 weeks were the same chart, not the Jan 6th chart. And I know that the 2 is for weeks at #1. The issue I was looking at shows Highway 101 was 2nd the previous 2 weeks. Sounds to me like a difference between what Billboard originally published vs. what is currently on the web site in terms of what was considered to be the previous week during the holiday season. Originally I don’t think there was a published Jan. 6 chart since I believe that was the week they wouldn’t have published an issue. It may be that the policy of a frozen chart was adopted later but applied retroactively; that would certainly explain a difference between the original published chart vs. what is now reflected on the web site. I don’t need to see a screen shot; I definitely believe what you posted is accurate in terms of the original published chart; we’re just looking at different sources.
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Post by gardyfan on Sept 21, 2018 16:37:15 GMT -5
Jan. 6th was published as that's the date on the issue I'm looking at. it would have been the previous week that wasn't. And looking at what you were looking at it looks like on the Billboard site they made the unpublihsed week the same as Jan 6th instead of Dec 23rd like the issue I'm looking at has listened.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Sept 21, 2018 16:59:13 GMT -5
I think that’s exactly it. If Billboard didn’t originally consider Dec. 30 to be a chart week then Dec. 23, when Ronnie Milsap was #1, would have been the previous chart week in the Jan. 6 issue and Dec. 16 would have been two weeks ago. Treating Dec. 30 and Jan. 6 as separate charts as Billboard now does on the web site (even though the charts were exactly the same) threw off what was originally considered to be last week and two weeks ago. ETA: That means onebuffalo is correct based on how the charts were originally published. There had to be an explanation; him being mistaken on a matter of chart history would have been a stop-the-presses front page story.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 21, 2018 21:02:31 GMT -5
Rest of the 90's are up! Going to take a break. Will start the 2000's Sunday evening possibly.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Sept 21, 2018 22:16:39 GMT -5
One Way Ticket (Because I Can) was actually Leann Rimes’ only #1 hit. Perhaps you were thinking of How Do I Live, which was a #2 country hit for Tricia and a #2 pop hit for Leann.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 22, 2018 8:50:50 GMT -5
I see we got a lot of responses to see who was #1 between December, 1989 to January, 1990. I am surprised that Billboard is showing Highway 101 to be tops for the last week of the year with the link CoJoFan provided. Here is a link where Highway 101 was tops for the first week of 1990 while Ronnie Milsap dropped to #15. It shows the group to be tops for the first week while Milsap was #1 the previous two weeks: www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/90s/1990/BB-1990-01-06.pdfFurthermore, according to my Billboard Top 40 Country Hits book, Milsap was #1 for two weeks while Highway 101 was #1 for one week. According to that book, Milsap's thirty-five chart toppers spent 47 weeks at the top. Also, in January 2011, I ranked Milsap's top ten hits. Notice the number of weeks for A Woman In Love: 6. THEIR TEN BIGGEST: Sing Happy, Happy Birthday Baby to Ronnie Milsap this week. These are his ten biggest hits. Weeks at #1 are first followed by weeks in the top 40. 1. My Heart-1980-3-13 2. It Was Almost Like A Song-1977-3-12 3. Only One Love In My Life-1978-3-11 4. A Woman In Love-1989-2-24 5. Lost In The Fifties Tonight In The Still Of The Night-1985-2-14 6. There's No Gettin' Over Me-1981-2-11 7. Daydreams About Night Things-1975-2-11 8. I'm A Stand By My Woman Man-1976-2-11 9. Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends-1974-2-09 10. What A Difference You've Made In My Life-1978-1-14 Lastly, here is a video of those #1 country hits of 1989. If you want to skip to the last minute of the video, be my guest.
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Post by gardyfan on Sept 22, 2018 9:16:10 GMT -5
That is what I was going to post. But if you look closer on that chart @buffalocountry it says Highway 101 had 2 weeks at #1. So this is even more confusing.
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Post by classiccountryfan on Sept 22, 2018 10:11:17 GMT -5
The 2 weeks at #1 may have been a typo. It was shown as #3 for the previous week and 2 weeks ago, so the only way Jan. 6 could have its second week at #1 would have been if it were #1 previously, fell out of the top spot, and then moved back up to #1. And although that did occasionally occur, I’m almost certain that wasn’t the case for Highway 101.
This discussion got me curious about whether Wikipedia was consistent with the way the charts were originally published or the way they’re shown now on Billboard’s web site, and there’s inconsistency even within Wikipedia. I can’t post the link now because I’m on a mobile device and not sure how to copy a link, but the article titled List of Billboard Number-One Country Hits shows Who’s Lonely Now as #1 for both Dec. 30, 1989 and Jan. 6, 1990. However, if you click on the link to the article for the song it says the song was #1 for one week. So the list is consistent with what the Billboard site currently shows but the article is consistent with the chart as originally published. My opinion is that the chart as originally published is correct and what Billboard currently shows is revisionist history.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 22, 2018 10:23:00 GMT -5
The 2 weeks at #1 may have been a typo. It was shown as #3 for the previous week and 2 weeks ago, so the only way Jan. 6 could have its second week at #1 would have been if it were #1 previously, fell out of the top spot, and then moved back up to #1. And although that did occasionally occur, I’m almost certain that wasn’t the case for Highway 101. This discussion got me curious about whether Wikipedia was consistent with the way the charts were originally published or the way they’re shown now on Billboard’s web site, and there’s inconsistency even within Wikipedia. I can’t post the link now because I’m on a mobile device and not sure how to copy a link, but the article titled List of Billboard Number-One Country Hits shows Who’s Lonely Now as #1 for both Dec. 30, 1989 and Jan. 6, 1990. However, if you click on the link to the article for the song it says the song was #1 for one week. So the list is consistent with what the Billboard site currently shows but the article is consistent with the chart as originally published. My opinion is that the chart as originally published is correct and what Billboard currently shows is revisionist history. I think it was due to a chart freeze like you said. I think Highway 101 actually only spent one week at #1.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 22, 2018 10:24:09 GMT -5
I see we got a lot of responses to see who was #1 between December, 1989 to January, 1990. I am surprised that Billboard is showing Highway 101 to be tops for the last week of the year with the link CoJoFan provided. Here is a link where Highway 101 was tops for the first week of 1990 while Ronnie Milsap dropped to #15. It shows the group to be tops for the first week while Milsap was #1 the previous two weeks: www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/90s/1990/BB-1990-01-06.pdfFurthermore, according to my Billboard Top 40 Country Hits book, Milsap was #1 for two weeks while Highway 101 was #1 for one week. According to that book, Milsap's thirty-five chart toppers spent 47 weeks at the top. Also, in January 2011, I ranked Milsap's top ten hits. Notice the number of weeks for A Woman In Love: 6. THEIR TEN BIGGEST: Sing Happy, Happy Birthday Baby to Ronnie Milsap this week. These are his ten biggest hits. Weeks at #1 are first followed by weeks in the top 40. 1. My Heart-1980-3-13 2. It Was Almost Like A Song-1977-3-12 3. Only One Love In My Life-1978-3-11 4. A Woman In Love-1989-2-24 5. Lost In The Fifties Tonight In The Still Of The Night-1985-2-14 6. There's No Gettin' Over Me-1981-2-11 7. Daydreams About Night Things-1975-2-11 8. I'm A Stand By My Woman Man-1976-2-11 9. Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends-1974-2-09 10. What A Difference You've Made In My Life-1978-1-14 Lastly, here is a video of those #1 country hits of 1989. If you want to skip to the last minute of the video, be my guest. And then Billboard's site says "A Woman In Love" was #1 only one week. The December 23 chart.
And Highway 101 says 2 weeks
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Post by classiccountryfan on Sept 22, 2018 11:35:24 GMT -5
Based on my recollection of how Billboard handled the holiday season at the time Dec. 23 was probably a double issue that included both the usual weekly charts and the year-end charts. Dec. 30 was then a holiday break with publication resuming with the Jan. 6 issue. Since there was no Dec. 30 issue there also would have been no new charts either, since that was before the Internet and the printed publication was the only outlet for publishing the charts. So the Dec. 23 chart was frozen for the next week, which is why the Jan. 6 chart shows the same position for all songs in both the last week and two weeks ago columns and why Ronnie Milsap at the time was credited for two weeks at the top. For some reason, on their web site Billboard is now treating Dec. 30 as the new chart and Jan. 6 as the frozen chart, which is why they now show Highway 101 rather than Ronnie Milsap getting credit for a second week at the top. I don’t know why or when they change that, but it seems to me that’s what’s causing the discrepancy between the chart as originally published vs. currently posted.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 23, 2018 14:28:02 GMT -5
The 2000's are posted. Will try to finish this later this evening!
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 23, 2018 15:19:53 GMT -5
The 2000's are posted. Will try to finish this later this evening! You're certainly are making history with the biggest post of all time. I've been writing my column for nine and a half years and I know for certain I have not mentioned ALL the #1s in country music. Definitely the #1 masterpiece in the country forum. Kudos. We should pay you for it.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 23, 2018 17:59:51 GMT -5
I am finished! I've posted every #1 single from the charts creation in 1944 until our current #1. Will update every time we have a new #1!
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 23, 2018 18:28:34 GMT -5
I am surprised you were able to fit seven plus decades of #1s in one post. Definitely a major undertaking and the country forum owes you a debt of gratitude. Merci.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 24, 2018 16:16:56 GMT -5
Added Old Dominion's "Hotel Key" to the list of #1's.
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Post by CoJoFan on Oct 8, 2018 13:24:25 GMT -5
Added Russell Dickerson's "Blue Tacoma" to the list!
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Post by CoJoFan on Oct 15, 2018 15:48:24 GMT -5
Added Florida Georgia Line's "Simple" to the list!
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Post by CoJoFan on Oct 22, 2018 19:58:06 GMT -5
Added Luke Combs' "She Got The Best Of Me" to the list.
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Post by CoJoFan on Nov 20, 2018 17:12:36 GMT -5
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Post by CoJoFan on Dec 4, 2018 18:58:12 GMT -5
Added Kane Brown's "Lose It" to the list!
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Post by CoJoFan on Dec 17, 2018 16:57:35 GMT -5
I've added Dan + Shay's "Speechless" to the list. It could quite possibly be the final #1 of 2018. I actually think it will be with the chart slow down next week and then either Thomas or Dustin will have the first #1 of 2019.
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Post by CoJoFan on Dec 19, 2018 16:27:21 GMT -5
In one more year we will know what the #1 song of the decade is! I've been thinking today that unless we have a song released in 2019 that just surprisingly dominates the charts for a number of weeks (which is highly unlikely) what song out of all the #1 singles from 2010 until 2018 do you think will be the #1 single of the decade? Or will it be a song that didn't top the charts? Take a look at all the songs on my list here that topped the charts in the 2010's and give me your take! Also how many people would be interested in a thread that lists all the songs in the airplay era that peaked between #11 to 20? In other words they made the top 20 but weren't quite good enough to make it to the top 10. If any moderators see this post let me know if you would approve a thread like this.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 19, 2018 16:42:46 GMT -5
In one more year we will know what the #1 song of the decade is! I've been thinking today that unless we have a song released in 2019 that just surprisingly dominates the charts for a number of weeks (which is highly unlikely) what song out of all the #1 singles from 2010 until 2018 do you think will be the #1 single of the decade? Or will it be a song that didn't top the charts? Take a look at all the songs on my list here that topped the charts in the 2010's and give me your take! Also how many people would be interested in a thread that lists all the songs in the airplay era that peaked between #11 to 20? In other words they made the top 20 but weren't quite good enough to make it to the top 10. If any moderators see this post let me know if you would approve a thread like this. Statistically speaking, that honor should go to Thomas Rhett's Die A Happy Man, a six week #1 in 2016. However, it could go to Lee Brice with Love Like Crazy, a #3 hit in 2010 that spent 56 weeks on the chart in 2009-2010. It finished 2010 as the biggest hit of the year. Don't forget, Amazed by Lonestar came out in 1999 and became the biggest hit of the decade. The same could happen in 2019. The biggest hit of the 2000s belongs to Keith Urban with Somebody Like You, which finished as the third biggest hit of 2002.
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Post by CoJoFan on Dec 19, 2018 16:47:42 GMT -5
In one more year we will know what the #1 song of the decade is! I've been thinking today that unless we have a song released in 2019 that just surprisingly dominates the charts for a number of weeks (which is highly unlikely) what song out of all the #1 singles from 2010 until 2018 do you think will be the #1 single of the decade? Or will it be a song that didn't top the charts? Take a look at all the songs on my list here that topped the charts in the 2010's and give me your take! Also how many people would be interested in a thread that lists all the songs in the airplay era that peaked between #11 to 20? In other words they made the top 20 but weren't quite good enough to make it to the top 10. If any moderators see this post let me know if you would approve a thread like this. Statistically speaking, that honor should go to Thomas Rhett's Die A Happy Man, a six week #1 in 2016. However, it could go to Lee Brice with Love Like Crazy, a #3 hit in 2010 that spent 56 weeks on the chart in 2009-2010. It finished 2010 as the biggest hit of the year. Don't forget, Amazed by Lonestar came out in 1999 and became the biggest hit of the decade. The same could happen in 2019. The biggest hit of the 2000s belongs to Keith Urban with Somebody Like You, which finished as the third biggest hit of 2002. So Keith had the biggest hit of the 2000's but not the most weeks at #1. That went to Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett's "It's Five O' Clock Somewhere, which I believe spent 8 weeks at #1. Also is there a chart for the biggest hits of the 90's? I mean I've searched endlessly even on americanradiohistory.com and can't find one. I believe when you say Lonestar was the biggest hit of the 90's you mean by weeks spent at #1? Unless I just missed something in my research Billboard never released Decade end chart for the 90's.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 19, 2018 16:53:34 GMT -5
Statistically speaking, that honor should go to Thomas Rhett's Die A Happy Man, a six week #1 in 2016. However, it could go to Lee Brice with Love Like Crazy, a #3 hit in 2010 that spent 56 weeks on the chart in 2009-2010. It finished 2010 as the biggest hit of the year. Don't forget, Amazed by Lonestar came out in 1999 and became the biggest hit of the decade. The same could happen in 2019. The biggest hit of the 2000s belongs to Keith Urban with Somebody Like You, which finished as the third biggest hit of 2002. So Keith had the biggest hit of the 2000's but not the most weeks at #1. That went to Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffett's "It's Five O' Clock Somewhere, which I believe spent 8 weeks at #1. Also is there a chart for the biggest hits of the 90's? I mean I've searched endlessly even on americanradiohistory.com and can't find one. I believe when you say Lonestar was the biggest hit of the 90's you mean by weeks spent at #1? Unless I just missed something in my research Billboard never released Decade end chart for the 90's. I tried to find such a list myself, but to no avail. If you have the Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits, they have Amazed at #1. The top ten for the decade: 1. Amazed-Lonestar-1999-BNA 2. Breathe-Faith Hill-1999-Warner Bros. 3. How Forever Feels-Kenny Chesney-1999-BNA 4. Just To See You Smile-Tim McGraw-1998-Curb 5. It's Your Love-Tim McGraw and Faith Hill-1997-Curb 6. Something Like That-Tim McGraw-1999-Curb 7. I Love You-Martina McBride-1999-RCA 8. Please Remember Me-Tim McGraw-1990-Curb 9. Love Without End, Amen-George Strait-1990-MCA 10. One Night At A Time-George Strait-1997-MCA
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