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Post by Golden Bluebird on Oct 29, 2018 14:56:27 GMT -5
Are "We Belong Together" and "Girls Like You" tied for second in songs that have blocked the most songs that peaked at #2? I believe "(Everything I Do) I Do It for You" is still the leader, blocking five songs from #1 but I'm not sure if I'm forgetting any other songs as well. "Theme from A Summer Place" by Percy Faith also blocked five songs from going to #1. Not sure what other #1 songs besides these two have blocked that many songs or more from the #1 spot. |
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Post by RainMan94 on Oct 29, 2018 14:59:43 GMT -5
Are "We Belong Together" and "Girls Like You" tied for second in songs that have blocked the most songs that peaked at #2? I believe "(Everything I Do) I Do It for You" is still the leader, blocking five songs from #1 but I'm not sure if I'm forgetting any other songs as well. "Theme from A Summer Place" by Percy Faith also blocked five songs from going to #1. Not sure what other #1 songs besides these two have blocked that many songs or more from the #1 spot. Thanks! I remember a similar subject was brought up in a different Hot 100 thread years ago, but it was which songs that got stuck at #2 were held back by multiple #1 songs. For example, "I'm Not in Love" by 10cc was held back by three separate #1 songs in 1975. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 29, 2018 15:03:29 GMT -5
Anyone know where Money debuted? 54 |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 29, 2018 15:17:12 GMT -5
The talk of diversity in this thread is hilarious.
In a year where Drake was #1 for 30 weeks and almost every #1 song was hip-hop.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Oct 29, 2018 15:22:58 GMT -5
How in God's name can a song which gets the most chart points in a week and got No. 1 in that week NOT be deserving of the No. 1 placement in that particular week? I don't care who remembers the song. I don't care how far the song falls the next week. I don't care how much the song manages to perform in the long-term. How can the most popular song in a week not deserve No. 1? I don't know why I still get annoyed when people say this though... OKAY and GLY is the most popular song of the week, so it deserved #1. Also we are just saying that it isn't really fair that a high profile album( which only lasts 1 week ) can dethrone a song that has worked its way to the top. GLY has been through hell lol. I'm not mad at it being #1. It survived Drake. How? If a song is the most popular song of the week, it should top the Hot 100 (which tracks the popular song of THE WEEK). Who gives a s**t if the song worked it’s way to top? If a song is the most popular song of the week, it should top the Hot 100. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Oct 29, 2018 15:28:16 GMT -5
How? If a song is the most popular song of the week, it should top the Hot 100 (which tracks the popular song of THE WEEK). Who gives a s**t if the song worked it’s way to top? If a song is the most popular song of the week, it should top the Hot 100. But that’s exactly what happened ??? What’s the problem? “we are just saying that it isn't really fair that a high profile album( which only lasts 1 week ) can dethrone a song that has worked its way to the top.” |
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Post by Gary on Oct 29, 2018 15:30:20 GMT -5
If we were discussing the most popular song of the month of the year, I agree
But this is a 7 day period that we are talking about. The "here today gone tomorrow" scenario is certainly now more possible than before - with the short attention span that some streamers have
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Post by selenacaos on Oct 29, 2018 15:34:49 GMT -5
where do you guys see taki taki landing next week?
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 29, 2018 15:39:01 GMT -5
where do you guys see taki taki landing next week? Probably #8 or #9. |
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Post by Xander on Oct 29, 2018 15:39:53 GMT -5
Where do you guys see Money next week?
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Post by sam8432 on Oct 29, 2018 15:44:08 GMT -5
Listened to Mo Bamba again just to see if it will grow on me. Nope, still terrible. I don't think I'll ever get pass that off-key singing. If it goes Top 10, it'll easily be the worst top 10 of 2018. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 29, 2018 15:53:59 GMT -5
Really? This thread has had a few candidates over the last few months (Sad!, Fefe, Zeze, etc.)
Worse than those?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 15:58:03 GMT -5
where do you guys see taki taki landing next week? i see it staying in the top 20 but not quite getting to the top 10 unfortunately. it needs a bit more radio for it to go to the top 10 and it doesn't have enough airplay right now. (but it is gaining) |
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Post by missgenericnickname on Oct 29, 2018 16:01:51 GMT -5
So Girls Like You is somehow getting it's revenge against rap Blocked... KILLSHOT Mona Lisa Lucid Dreams ZEZE SICKO MODE It's sad that literally any of these are better than GLY. Guess I have to wait for Rihanna to release an R9 single |
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Post by Gary on Oct 29, 2018 16:09:31 GMT -5
Then Girls Like You - Worst top 10 of 2018?
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Post by renaboss on Oct 29, 2018 16:15:57 GMT -5
People have a fixed idea in their mind on how a #1 song should "feel" and it dates back to heavy airplay saturation eras. So if a #1 song is played every 30 seconds on multiple formats for weeks and everyone's buying the equivalent album and it's got a lot of media attention, the song 'feels' different from a #1 song which is a heavily streamed track by a very narrow demographic of fans during a 7 day period. This has been going on for more than 20 years. I recall early internet posters grumbling that with a #62 airplay peak, 2Pac's "How Do U Want It" didn't feel like a #1 song. I thought the actual #1 song was "California Love" and that "How Do U Want It" just happened to be billed with it. Isn't "California Love" the better known one? I know K-Ci & JoJo are credited as featured artists for the double A-side whereas Dr. Dre and Roger are not (on Billboard's archive anyway), which confused me. So, "How Do U Want It" was the actual #1? Boy is that disappointing. |
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Post by Xander on Oct 29, 2018 16:17:13 GMT -5
Is Money going top 10?
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Oct 29, 2018 16:29:58 GMT -5
People have a fixed idea in their mind on how a #1 song should "feel" and it dates back to heavy airplay saturation eras. So if a #1 song is played every 30 seconds on multiple formats for weeks and everyone's buying the equivalent album and it's got a lot of media attention, the song 'feels' different from a #1 song which is a heavily streamed track by a very narrow demographic of fans during a 7 day period. This has been going on for more than 20 years. I recall early internet posters grumbling that with a #62 airplay peak, 2Pac's "How Do U Want It" didn't feel like a #1 song. I thought the actual #1 song was "California Love" and that "How Do U Want It" just happened to be billed with it. Isn't "California Love" the better known one? I know K-Ci & JoJo are credited as featured artists for the double A-side whereas Dr. Dre and Roger are not (on Billboard's archive anyway), which confused me. So, "How Do U Want It" was the actual #1? Boy is that disappointing. “How Do U Want It” is sooo good but it definitely seems like “California Love” was the more popular of the two. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 29, 2018 16:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by Xander on Oct 29, 2018 16:44:26 GMT -5
Really? It’s doing well on AM (#1) and Spotify (800k+ streams). It’s top 10 US iTunes and it jumped +74 on Radio (#165) |
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Post by iHype. on Oct 29, 2018 16:45:41 GMT -5
People have a fixed idea in their mind on how a #1 song should "feel" and it dates back to heavy airplay saturation eras. So if a #1 song is played every 30 seconds on multiple formats for weeks and everyone's buying the equivalent album and it's got a lot of media attention, the song 'feels' different from a #1 song which is a heavily streamed track by a very narrow demographic of fans during a 7 day period. This has been going on for more than 20 years. I recall early internet posters grumbling that with a #62 airplay peak, 2Pac's "How Do U Want It" didn't feel like a #1 song. I thought the actual #1 song was "California Love" and that "How Do U Want It" just happened to be billed with it. Isn't "California Love" the better known one? I know K-Ci & JoJo are credited as featured artists for the double A-side whereas Dr. Dre and Roger are not (on Billboard's archive anyway), which confused me. So, "How Do U Want It" was the actual #1? Boy is that disappointing. I think both ended up being pushed as singles, since they both got decent airplay. R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay: California Love - #7 peak (March 16, 1997) How Do U Want It - #17 peak (August 10, 1997) However, as for the one pushed when it was #1/released physically, I think that'd be How Do U Want It. It was #21 on R&B Airplay, while California Love wasn't charting. So in short -- California Love was released to radios first, then How Do U Want It was released to radios while the double-single was released to stores. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 29, 2018 16:52:02 GMT -5
Yes, California Love was on the decline when it came out as the B side to the single
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Post by jebsib on Oct 29, 2018 16:56:18 GMT -5
Like the controversial “Incomplete” getting to #1 primarily because everyone wanted the b-side, “Thong Song”, “California Love” was bigger at top 40 and was listed as a charting flip side, but in terms of the history books, “How Do U Want It” was the charting airplay hit when the single was #1.
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Post by forg on Oct 29, 2018 16:58:16 GMT -5
Congrats to Girls Like You!
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Post by Kris on Oct 29, 2018 17:02:30 GMT -5
GLY #1 again with Happier coming in the next couple weeks, could be the longest pop run at #1 since Shape of You last year (unless you count Despacito as pop)
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Post by Naos on Oct 29, 2018 17:04:02 GMT -5
"Burning Man" debuts at #100.
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Post by velaxti on Oct 29, 2018 17:04:35 GMT -5
But that’s exactly what happened ??? What’s the problem? “we are just saying that it isn't really fair that a high profile album( which only lasts 1 week ) can dethrone a song that has worked its way to the top.” I don't even understand what people are suggesting exactly anyway? There's no way anybody can know on week 1 if an album track will be like Mona Lisa or if it will be like Better Now, Sicko Mode, I Like It or In My Feelings. I sometimes think people are suggesting that album tracks should be banned from charting, but it would be unfair even on songs like Ariana Grande - Breathin or the new Lady Gaga songs, because those songs would get a chunk of their chart success not counted. |
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Post by rimetm on Oct 29, 2018 17:05:53 GMT -5
Sources: Gary Trust tweets, article, & Chart History digging
01 01 Girls Like You
02 07 Sicko Mode
03 03 Lucid Dreams
04 06 Happier
05 04 Better Now
06 02 ZEZE
07 09 Youngblood
08 08 Drip Too Hard
09 NE Sunflower
10 14 Love Lies
11 16 Taki Taki
12 23 Without Me
15 13 Natural
16 21 Mo Bamba
21 27 High Hopes
24 19 God is a Woman
26 NE Fine China
31 32 Beautiful
34 71 Better
36 37 I'm a Mess
37 44 She Got the Best of Me
41 52 Breathin'
45 46 Ring
50 49 No Tears Left to Cry
51 58 Lie
52 63 Speechless
54 NE Money
56 66 Lose It
62 68 Lost in Japan
63 72 Drunk Me
65 NE When the Party's Over
69 73 Dangerous
71 78 Hangin' On
72 NE Jet Lag
81 85 Rich
82 NE Astronauts
83 NE Saturday Nights
88 NE Suncity
89 NE Vertigo
91 NE Yacht Club
93 NE Kiss and Make Up
98 NE Get Dripped
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 17:09:10 GMT -5
I love Girls Like You so much now. It's blocked so many horrible songs from reaching number 1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 17:18:25 GMT -5
Mo Bamba coming for that Top 10
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