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Post by 14887fan on Mar 6, 2019 16:14:12 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Tim McGraw, or Kenny Chesney very much should’ve been given this honor over Aldean. Even Keith Urban. But, as we know, the ACMs love Aldean so much.
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Post by stanches2318 on Mar 6, 2019 16:23:41 GMT -5
Aldean In my opinion earned it. Look at his concert sales and chart success. Underwood should’ve got it in the 2000s, Mirandas charting isn’t really successful , Tim was bigger in the 90s, Chesney and Urban were bigger in the 2000s.
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Mar 6, 2019 16:36:59 GMT -5
I can see why Aldean was chosen. He has great album sales, has had massive hits all throughout this decade ("Dirt Road Anthem", "Take a Little Ride", "Burnin It Down", "You Make It Easy"), and save for "1994" hasn't had a single peak lower than #3. He has really been a consistently strong performer through the present, while artists like Keith Urban and Miranda Lambert have faltered a bit. Luke Bryan was a good candidate also, but I'm guessing their love for Jason is what swayed their choice.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 6, 2019 17:53:30 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Tim McGraw, or Kenny Chesney very much should’ve been given this honor over Aldean. Even Keith Urban. But, as we know, the ACMs love Aldean so much. I love Carrie Underwood but she has had multiple years in the 2010s where she was hardly anywhere to be seen (2011, 2014, 2017) besides a collaboration with another artist. With Tim McGraw and Kenny Chesney they've slowly cooled off little by little as the decade has gone on. As for Miranda Lambert, while she has had the award wins, her radio and commercial success has been pretty uneven and rocky since 2014. That and she has been out of the public light for a while. Jason Aldean makes the most sense as outside of a fluke "1994" all of his singles have done really well on radio and besides the stretch of 2015 to 2017, he's arguably been one of the biggest selling male country artists single wise in the genre. Not to mention his huge tours.
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Mar 6, 2019 18:18:50 GMT -5
Jason Aldean, no. Carrie Underwood, yes. I’m still holding to the only logical choices for the award being Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton or Luke Bryan. Keith Urban would be my 4th choice. Carrie while she has had a great decade, the 4 others I named have a better decade in my opinion. Blake was my choice for this award originally and I thought he would get it. Aldean would’ve been my 3rd choice actually with Luke ahead of him. I think you're right with your big three. But given the historic significance of an award like this, I think they'd have been better off awarding Kenny Chesney or Tim McGraw. It's not like George was the biggest artist in the 00s so there's some precedent. Jason Aldean sure looks funny in that list of winners.
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Post by onebuffalo on Mar 6, 2019 18:23:15 GMT -5
I’m still holding to the only logical choices for the award being Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton or Luke Bryan. Keith Urban would be my 4th choice. Carrie while she has had a great decade, the 4 others I named have a better decade in my opinion. Blake was my choice for this award originally and I thought he would get it. Aldean would’ve been my 3rd choice actually with Luke ahead of him. I think you're right with your big three. But given the historic significance of an award like this, I think they'd have been better off awarding Kenny Chesney or Tim McGraw. It's not like George was the biggest artist in the 00s so there's some precedent. Jason Aldean sure looks funny in that list of winners. The only reason why George Strait won for the 2000s was for the many records he broke during the decade.
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Post by CoJoFan on Mar 6, 2019 18:24:55 GMT -5
I’m still holding to the only logical choices for the award being Jason Aldean, Blake Shelton or Luke Bryan. Keith Urban would be my 4th choice. Carrie while she has had a great decade, the 4 others I named have a better decade in my opinion. Blake was my choice for this award originally and I thought he would get it. Aldean would’ve been my 3rd choice actually with Luke ahead of him. I think you're right with your big three. But given the historic significance of an award like this, I think they'd have been better off awarding Kenny Chesney or Tim McGraw. It's not like George was the biggest artist in the 00s so there's some precedent. Jason Aldean sure looks funny in that list of winners. That’s what I was getting at earlier when someone eluded to it going to Entertainer/award wins. George had very few award wins in the 00’s when he won it. Garth I could understand in the 90’s with how dominant he was. It’s like they just chose someone in the 00’s and didn’t look at their criteria. Nothing against George but Tim, Kenny or Toby should’ve won that decade if they went by their criteria.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Mar 6, 2019 18:56:21 GMT -5
I mean he’s not an outrageous choice, he’s easily in the top five artists for the decade, I’d say... Not my first choice, but it’s not a surprise and he definitely deserves it, all things considered. He’s one of the best selling albums artist in country music this past decade, consistently sells millions of concert tickets annually, and he is probably one of the most played artists in country music over the past ten years as well. If not him, I don’t really know who else for sure; Blake, Luke, Carrie, Miranda, Kenny, FGL, Keith, etc, but considering Jason’s history at the ACMs, he definitely makes sense.
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 6, 2019 19:07:06 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Tim McGraw, or Kenny Chesney very much should’ve been given this honor over Aldean. Even Keith Urban. But, as we know, the ACMs love Aldean so much. I love Carrie Underwood but she has had multiple years in the 2010s where she was hardly anywhere to be seen (2011, 2014, 2017) besides a collaboration with another artist. With Tim McGraw and Kenny Chesney they've slowly cooled off little by little as the decade has gone on. As for Miranda Lambert, while she has had the award wins, her radio and commercial success has been pretty uneven and rocky since 2014. That and she has been out of the public light for a while. Jason Aldean makes the most sense as outside of a fluke "1994" all of his singles have done really well on radio and besides the stretch of 2015 to 2017, he's arguably been one of the biggest selling male country artists single wise in the genre. Not to mention his huge tours. Is Underwood not *the* top digital-selling country artist (of any gender)? As a matter of fact, she took that title just a couple years ago from Aldean. And even her off years were strong. You rely far too much on radio success as reasoning. Think larger impact, like what an artist actually does/is known for. In the grand scheme of things, Aldean’s name is about 10% as recognizable internationally than Tim McGraw, Keith Urban, and Carrie Underwood. Sales-wise, Underwood has him topped. Touring-wise domestically, Kenny Chesney is on par (or maybe also has him topped? Not 100% sure on this one). Touring-wise internationally, Keith Urban has him topped. And even with radio success taken into consideration, he doesn’t have the largest leg up on any of ‘em. I’m not at all arguing that he’s undeserving; there are just others who rank ahead of him, statistically and based on sheer musical/cultural impact.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 6, 2019 19:15:34 GMT -5
Sorry 14887fan I might be out of my element as you seem more versed in this then me.
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 6, 2019 20:18:41 GMT -5
Sorry 14887fan I might be out of my element as you seem more versed in this then me. I most certainly hope I didn’t come across as condescending with that post! If so, apologies! Just trying to explain where I was coming from with those other examples of artists I felt are ahead of Aldean. In any case, not much we can do about the result of this award, lol.
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Post by ethanhunt on Mar 7, 2019 13:44:59 GMT -5
Most People Are Good not being nominated for song is so weird to me
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Post by someguy on Mar 9, 2019 18:17:35 GMT -5
Wow, and I like Aldean, but this is a huge stretch.
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Post by countrymusicjunkie on Mar 9, 2019 18:43:22 GMT -5
I think you're right with your big three. But given the historic significance of an award like this, I think they'd have been better off awarding Kenny Chesney or Tim McGraw. It's not like George was the biggest artist in the 00s so there's some precedent. Jason Aldean sure looks funny in that list of winners. That’s what I was getting at earlier when someone eluded to it going to Entertainer/award wins. George had very few award wins in the 00’s when he won it. Garth I could understand in the 90’s with how dominant he was. It’s like they just chose someone in the 00’s and didn’t look at their criteria. Nothing against George but Tim, Kenny or Toby should’ve won that decade if they went by their criteria. I completely agree! I love George Strait but it's always kind of bothered me that he won artist of the decade for the 00's. You can look at whatever criteria you want, album sales, touring numbers, airplay, etc. Tim, Kenny and Toby were way more successful in that decade than George was and one of them should have been the artist of the decade. I feel the same way about this decade, it's not a career achievement award so I'm glad Tim or Kenny didn't win it this time around because there are other artists, including Aldean that have had a better decade than they have.
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Post by someguy on Mar 9, 2019 18:56:11 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. If he was going to win, George should have got it for the 1990s. George over Tim and Kenny in the 2000s felt so false.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 9, 2019 20:06:55 GMT -5
Aldean In my opinion earned it. Look at his concert sales and chart success. Underwood should’ve got it in the 2000s, Mirandas charting isn’t really successful , Tim was bigger in the 90s, Chesney and Urban were bigger in the 2000s. She had only had like 3-4 years of hits when it was handed out to George Strait. She wasn't even around yet for the first half of the decade; 2010s would make much more sense for her to win the award than last decade. I agree with most of y'all: not surprised since the ACMs have a hard-on for Jason Aldean, but there were definitely better options out there. I think Carrie Underwood or Miranda Lambert are two of the only viable artists who could've won the award that I would've been happy about though honestly, as I don't particularly care for Blake Shelton or Luke Bryan about equally as Aldean.
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Post by stanches2318 on Mar 10, 2019 1:02:18 GMT -5
I dont agree on Miranda. look at her country airplay chart success: 10 Top 10's, 5 #1's, 9 Top 5's, and about 2.5 million albums sold in US.
Aldean: 16 #1's, 20 Top 5 and 10's, and about 6 million albums sold in US Bryan: 19 #1's, 22 Top 5 and 10's and about 11 Million albums sold in US Blake: 19 #1's 20 Top 5's, 22 Top 10's about 7 Million albums sold in US Carrie: 5 #1's 12 Top 5's, 13 Top 10's About 4 Million Albums sold in US
I'm not counting awards not counting concert numbers, cus I dont have those numbers
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 10, 2019 2:00:47 GMT -5
I dont agree on Miranda. look at her country airplay chart success: 10 Top 10's, 5 #1's, 9 Top 5's, and about 2.5 million albums sold in US. Aldean: 16 #1's, 20 Top 5 and 10's, and about 6 million albums sold in US Bryan: 19 #1's, 22 Top 5 and 10's and about 11 Million albums sold in US Blake: 19 #1's 20 Top 5's, 22 Top 10's about 7 Million albums sold in US Carrie: 5 #1's 12 Top 5's, 13 Top 10's About 4 Million Albums sold in US I'm not counting awards not counting concert numbers, cus I dont have those numbers Once again, radio isn’t the end-all, be-all.
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 10, 2019 10:54:21 GMT -5
I dont agree on Miranda. look at her country airplay chart success: 10 Top 10's, 5 #1's, 9 Top 5's, and about 2.5 million albums sold in US. Aldean: 16 #1's, 20 Top 5 and 10's, and about 6 million albums sold in US Bryan: 19 #1's, 22 Top 5 and 10's and about 11 Million albums sold in US Blake: 19 #1's 20 Top 5's, 22 Top 10's about 7 Million albums sold in US Carrie: 5 #1's 12 Top 5's, 13 Top 10's About 4 Million Albums sold in US I'm not counting awards not counting concert numbers, cus I dont have those numbers Once again, radio isn’t the end-all, be-all. Agreed, but if we are talking about an artist of the decade award it has o play a role, and she just doesn’t have it. Not the biggest Jason fan, but I cannot argue across metrics, him or Luke were the two choices.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 10, 2019 11:11:52 GMT -5
Once again, radio isn’t the end-all, be-all. Agreed, but if we are talking about an artist of the decade award it has o play a role, and she just doesn’t have it. Not the biggest Jason fan, but I cannot argue across metrics, him or Luke were the two choices. And for me when we're talking about an Artist of the Decade award, I think the quality of work put forth should be as important as the radio stats, and that alone would make Miranda Lambert a contender. I'm not saying she should've won (I prefer her catalog to Underwood's, but Underwood would've made more sense because she had more of the 'superstar' presence across all fields), but being dismissive of Lambert as a choice because she didn't score a bunch of #1 hits is a weak argument considering how well she's managed to do for herself in spite of that.
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Post by 14887fan on Mar 10, 2019 11:14:25 GMT -5
Once again, radio isn’t the end-all, be-all. Agreed, but if we are talking about an artist of the decade award it has o play a role, and she just doesn’t have it. Not the biggest Jason fan, but I cannot argue across metrics, him or Luke were the two choices. Yes, it’s important to consider. But it’s a fraction. And, as mentioned before, Underwood, Lambert, McGraw, and Urban significantly triumph over Bryan & Aldean in other areas. Pulse (not just in country, but all genres) will always reduce definitive success to radio & chart numbers, and it’s borderline hilarious.
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 10, 2019 11:28:30 GMT -5
Agreed, but if we are talking about an artist of the decade award it has o play a role, and she just doesn’t have it. Not the biggest Jason fan, but I cannot argue across metrics, him or Luke were the two choices. Yes, it’s important to consider. But it’s a fraction. And, as mentioned before, Underwood, Lambert, McGraw, and Urban significantly triumph over Bryan & Aldean in other areas. Pulse (not just in country, but all genres) will always reduce definitive success to radio & chart numbers, and it’s borderline hilarious. Like what? (And again, I’d rather have any of the artists that you mention get it over Aldean and Bryan.) I just can’t think of anything that those four SIGNIFICANTLY triumph Aldean and Bryan. Radio success? Nope. Album sales? Nope. Touring? Nope. Streaming? Still no. Award wins? Negative.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 10, 2019 11:31:52 GMT -5
Pulse (not just in country, but all genres) will always reduce definitive success to radio & chart numbers, and it’s borderline hilarious. Yep. It becomes especially cringe-y when we talk about awards of any kind, because what would be the literal point of any award handed out if it were dependent entirely upon just measurable metrics like radio airplay or sales? Album of the Year would just go to whatever record sold the most, i.e. and there'd be no use in even going through the trouble of putting together an awards show since anyone with access to the Internet could determine who would win anything, lol. At the end of the day, I totally understand why Jason Aldean won this award and it doesn't surprise me at all, but from my perspective, I think he's a weak choice because his career, while great on paper, has been largely mediocre in terms of his actual output. He's an average vocalist at best who only really shines on a handful of songs akin to "Drowns the Whiskey" or "Any Ol' Barstool," which he releases few and far between his generic party/truck driving/pretty girl songs, and every live performance I've ever seen him give on live TV lacks the stage presence I'd expect from someone who sells out big arenas/stadiums on tour. No numbers from a sexist source like country radio is going to convince me he's a better option than someone like Carrie Underwood, who has stats that rival his but without the mediocrity.
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 10, 2019 11:32:41 GMT -5
Agreed, but if we are talking about an artist of the decade award it has o play a role, and she just doesn’t have it. Not the biggest Jason fan, but I cannot argue across metrics, him or Luke were the two choices. And for me when we're talking about an Artist of the Decade award, I think the quality of work put forth should be as important as the radio stats, and that alone would make Miranda Lambert a contender. I'm not saying she should've won (I prefer her catalog to Underwood's, but Underwood would've made more sense because she had more of the 'superstar' presence across all fields), but being dismissive of Lambert as a choice because she didn't score a bunch of #1 hits is a weak argument considering how well she's managed to do for herself in spite of that. True...but let’s look at touring? Jason’s touring success easily dwarfs Miranda’s as well. And quality is extremely relative. Sure the critics love her, but are we going to award something based solely on the “critics?” Fans clearly like Jason what is putting out; he does a new album basically every 18 months and they always sell well. And again, I agree with you. Miranda’s music is extremely more quality and vulnerable....but I think Jason is a clear winner on most, if not all metrics, over Miranda in this case.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 10, 2019 11:38:07 GMT -5
And quality is extremely relative. Sure the critics love her, but are we going to award something based solely on the “critics?” Fans clearly like Jason what is putting out; he does a new album basically every 18 months and they always sell well. Well quality is what they go off for a lot/most of the awards they already hand out (see every time Chris Stapleton, Little Big Town, Miranda Lambert, Bros. Osborne won in their respective fields over artists who had better radio numbers like Jason Aldean, Florida Georgia Line, Carrie Underwood, etc.), so why is it suddenly not okay to do for this particular award?
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 10, 2019 11:39:33 GMT -5
Pulse (not just in country, but all genres) will always reduce definitive success to radio & chart numbers, and it’s borderline hilarious. Yep. It becomes especially cringe-y when we talk about awards of any kind, because what would be the literal point of any award handed out if it were dependent entirely upon just measurable metrics like radio airplay or sales? Album of the Year would just go to whatever record sold the most, i.e. and there'd be no use in even going through the trouble of putting together an awards show since anyone with access to the Internet could determine who would win anything, lol. At the end of the day, I totally understand why Jason Aldean won this award and it doesn't surprise me at all, but from my perspective, I think he's a weak choice because his career, while great on paper, has been largely mediocre in terms of his actual output. He's an average vocalist at best who only really shines on a handful of songs akin to "Drowns the Whiskey" or "Any Ol' Barstool," which he releases few and far between his generic party/truck driving/pretty girl songs, and every live performance I've ever seen him give on live TV lacks the stage presence I'd expect from someone who sells out big arenas/stadiums on tour. No numbers from a sexist source like country radio is going to convince me he's a better option than someone like Carrie Underwood, who has stats that rival his but without the mediocrity. Then take radio out. Consumers are still buying his stuff in a more consistent way than Miranda. The fan base as a whole prefers his output over hers. I wish everything could be able quality, but heck look at Chris Stapleton. No one is arguing his quality, but did he get any noms until people started buying? No... sales are just as important. You can release quality, but if no one buys it, who really decides it was quality. (And let the record show, I would have picked Keith Urban. I think he did the best in balancing all forms of judgement thoughout the 2010’s....his most recent album being the major outlier.)
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 10, 2019 11:41:20 GMT -5
And quality is extremely relative. Sure the critics love her, but are we going to award something based solely on the “critics?” Fans clearly like Jason what is putting out; he does a new album basically every 18 months and they always sell well. Well quality is what they go off for a lot/most of the awards they already hand out (see every time Chris Stapleton, Little Big Town, Miranda Lambert, Bros. Osborne won in their respective fields over artists who had better radio numbers like Jason Aldean, Florida Georgia Line, Carrie Underwood, etc.), so why is it suddenly not okay to do for this particular award? Because it is for the decade. You have one artist to choose as the best for the year....sales HAVE to come into it. You can’t honor someone just based on critical success if the consumers don’t like it. I think we are gonna have to agree to disagree here.
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Post by seak05 on Mar 10, 2019 11:46:19 GMT -5
The problem is that award wins at this point are just as manufactured (if not more so) then radio success. When ACM's is handing out awards to people who haven't done anything for the year, it devalues the awards. 30 years from now we might look back upon Miranda as defining the decade, and I expect her to make the HoF. But truthfully most casual country fans probably can't identify her music, and that makes it a tough sell as artist of the decade, when it is partially a commercial award.
I think for artist of the decade you have to look at the person who has defined the decade musically. In terms of commercial success and visibility, Luke outshines Aldean, which is why I find it hard to make an argument for Aldean (since that's his main metrics).
In terms of visibility into and outside of country music, it's Blake or Carrie.
Or if they wanted to continue the George Strait trend of not giving it to a current artist, Kenny (who probably should've won in 2009) would have made sense.
I can make a good case for Luke, Blake, Carrie, Kenny, even Tim, Reba, and Dolly. I just can't make a case for Aldean, where I don't think he's trumped by another artist.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 10, 2019 11:46:25 GMT -5
Yep. It becomes especially cringe-y when we talk about awards of any kind, because what would be the literal point of any award handed out if it were dependent entirely upon just measurable metrics like radio airplay or sales? Album of the Year would just go to whatever record sold the most, i.e. and there'd be no use in even going through the trouble of putting together an awards show since anyone with access to the Internet could determine who would win anything, lol. At the end of the day, I totally understand why Jason Aldean won this award and it doesn't surprise me at all, but from my perspective, I think he's a weak choice because his career, while great on paper, has been largely mediocre in terms of his actual output. He's an average vocalist at best who only really shines on a handful of songs akin to "Drowns the Whiskey" or "Any Ol' Barstool," which he releases few and far between his generic party/truck driving/pretty girl songs, and every live performance I've ever seen him give on live TV lacks the stage presence I'd expect from someone who sells out big arenas/stadiums on tour. No numbers from a sexist source like country radio is going to convince me he's a better option than someone like Carrie Underwood, who has stats that rival his but without the mediocrity. Then take radio out. Consumers are still buying his stuff in a more consistent way than Miranda. The fan base as a whole prefers his output over hers. I wish everything could be able quality, but heck look at Chris Stapleton. No one is arguing his quality, but did he get any noms until people started buying? No... sales are just as important. You can release quality, but if no one buys it, who really decides it was quality. (And let the record show, I would have picked Keith Urban. I think he did the best in balancing all forms of judgement thoughout the 2010’s....his most recent album being the major outlier.) Jason Aldean also releases stuff at a more consistent pace than Miranda Lambert does. But when she has put out music, it's usually sold very well in most cases and no worse than his own singles. And your second point is false: Chris Stapleton was not only nominated, but he won Male Vocalist and Album of the Year at the CMAs in the same year his debut album came out, which that + the viral performance with Justin Timblerake is what got the fans to start buying his music. The critics gave him the most attention before consumers did and then country radio came last (and they're still lagging behind).
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Post by bigfan101 on Mar 10, 2019 11:49:40 GMT -5
Then take radio out. Consumers are still buying his stuff in a more consistent way than Miranda. The fan base as a whole prefers his output over hers. I wish everything could be able quality, but heck look at Chris Stapleton. No one is arguing his quality, but did he get any noms until people started buying? No... sales are just as important. You can release quality, but if no one buys it, who really decides it was quality. (And let the record show, I would have picked Keith Urban. I think he did the best in balancing all forms of judgement thoughout the 2010’s....his most recent album being the major outlier.) Jason Aldean also releases stuff at a more consistent pace than Miranda Lambert does. But when she has put out music, it's usually sold very well in most cases and no worse than his own singles. And your second point is false: Chris Stapleton was not only nominated, but he won Male Vocalist and Album of the Year at the CMAs in the same year his debut album came out, which that + the viral performance with Justin Timblerake is what got the fans to start buying his music. The critics gave him the most attention before consumers did and then country radio came last (and they're still lagging behind). Not false. The same year he got sales. Haha you said it yourself. His album came out, it sold, he got nominated. But it wasn’t his debut album. It was his major label debut....but all his release before? Are you saying they weren’t quality? No, they were....he just had no sales to back it up. EDIT: The album came out in May. He was nominated and won for the CMAs...which were in November.
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