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Post by Kris on Dec 4, 2018 20:32:21 GMT -5
Shows how highly weighted streaming is. Delicate is #24, NBTS and Love Lies in the top 20, The Middle at #8... come on. It's the first time since YouTube was added to the formula that the streaming #1 is the top song of the year. Meanwhile, a non-event of a song like Love Yourself was #1 in 2016 (vs. Sorry and One Dance) and SOY beat Despacito (Sales record - 17 weeks at #1 / Streaming record - 16 weeks at #1) last year thanks to radio. But would that have been the case had SOY/Despacito release times been reversed? I think SOY only got it because of the months of points prior. Even if SOY had those weeks at #1 on radio. |
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Post by Mayman on Dec 4, 2018 21:17:33 GMT -5
I had no idea that Cardi B's actual sales were so low... "Cher sold more albums in 2018 than Cardi B" is my new favorite conversation starter. Since we want to talk about bundles all the time, let's talk bundles! Cher's album was heavily inflated by tour ticket bundles. Without them, she probably wouldn't have gotten her album into the top 10. Cardi's sales had 0 ticket bundles included. Every last one of her sales was an iTunes/digital retailer purchase. Let's also talk streaming! Cher has next to no streaming base, which means her audience will buy the CD/digital copy. Cardi's audience mainly streams instead of purchasing. That's why Cardi is nearing 2 million equivalent album units sold, all in less than a year. Oh make sure you also include in your conversation how Cardi's album is only the 6th best selling album of 2018 while Cher is all the way down at 193. For a name that is inspired by Bodak Yellow, you would think that person wouldn't do Cardi like that. |
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Post by Kris on Dec 4, 2018 21:31:52 GMT -5
I had no idea that Cardi B's actual sales were so low... "Cher sold more albums in 2018 than Cardi B" is my new favorite conversation starter. Since we want to talk about bundles all the time, let's talk bundles! Cher's album was heavily inflated by tour ticket bundles. Without them, she probably wouldn't have gotten her album into the top 10. Cardi's sales had 0 ticket bundles included. Every last one of her sales was an iTunes/digital retailer purchase. Let's also talk streaming! Cher has next to no streaming base, which means her audience will buy the CD/digital copy. Cardi's audience mainly streams instead of purchasing. That's why Cardi is nearing 2 million equivalent album units sold, all in less than a year. Oh make sure you also include in your conversation how Cardi's album is only the 6th best selling album of 2018 while Cher is all the way down at 193. For a name that is inspired by Bodak Yellow, you would think that person wouldn't do Cardi like that. Ever think you take your likeness to her a little too seriously? |
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Post by Mayman on Dec 4, 2018 21:48:54 GMT -5
Since we want to talk about bundles all the time, let's talk bundles! Cher's album was heavily inflated by tour ticket bundles. Without them, she probably wouldn't have gotten her album into the top 10. Cardi's sales had 0 ticket bundles included. Every last one of her sales was an iTunes/digital retailer purchase. Let's also talk streaming! Cher has next to no streaming base, which means her audience will buy the CD/digital copy. Cardi's audience mainly streams instead of purchasing. That's why Cardi is nearing 2 million equivalent album units sold, all in less than a year. Oh make sure you also include in your conversation how Cardi's album is only the 6th best selling album of 2018 while Cher is all the way down at 193. For a name that is inspired by Bodak Yellow, you would think that person wouldn't do Cardi like that. Ever think you take your likeness to her a little too seriously? Nope. If you want to look at my other posts, you will see I don't obsess with Cardi or anyone else. You just need to call someone out sometimes. thanks. |
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Post by leonagwen on Dec 4, 2018 23:39:27 GMT -5
Congrats to Camila for a great 2018!
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Post by 85la on Dec 5, 2018 2:18:51 GMT -5
Given that the cutoff mentioned in the above article were charts dated November 17, 2018, that means 52 weeks worth of charts counted toward the 2018 Year-End. Why would they do that? It doesn't make any sense. So they just decided to throw a week away? Yeah it kind of doesn't make sense. I doubt they will just throw the week away, because it will be unfair to artists who chart highly that week because they will lose a lot of points. I guess they will have to make next year a 53-week year, but that still begs the question why didn't they just do it this year, to let it be done with as soon as possible? |
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Post by shayonce on Dec 5, 2018 2:51:56 GMT -5
BTS at #8 artist wow, thanks to social media chart.
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Post by rainie on Dec 5, 2018 2:56:15 GMT -5
YESSSSS at Dua losing almost a third of New Rules’ radio run to 2017 and STILL getting #1 pop song over mediocre sludge like The Middle. Legend!!
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 5, 2018 9:47:15 GMT -5
Bilboard 200 78 Legend: The Best Of Bob Marley And The Wailers, Bob Marley And The Wailers Ok this is ridiculous I checked chart history and found that they barely had any hit album in America to begin with... But their random compilation album hit diamond status and charted more than 1000 weeks in catalog album charts... How does any of that make sense?
Bob Marley never had a top 40 hit. His compositions I Shot the Sheriff and Stir It Up were hits for Eric Clapton and Johnny Nash, but he never had any real hits of his own. There just wasn't acceptance of reggae music on US radio.
Eventually, it was accepted and embraced, and most people of a certain age can name and hum a half-dozen or more Marley tunes.
And, like the CCR Chronicle album that flopped when it first came out on vinyl, the move to CD gave his catalog a second and extensive life.
There's a parallel to music from the 1950's when black acts' compositions only got radio play when covered by white acts. But these days we remember the original Ray Charles What'd I Say, Little Richard Tutti Frutti and several Chuck Berry tracks and have forgotten the white covers. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 5, 2018 10:02:14 GMT -5
Album, much like songs, sometimes catch on after initial releases. Death of an artist sometimes elevate an otherwise unknown artist into someone people want to listen to.
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Post by ddlz on Dec 5, 2018 10:25:57 GMT -5
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Post by jebsib on Dec 5, 2018 11:05:44 GMT -5
"IDGAF" in the top 100 of the year, but wasn't a Hot 100 "Top 40 Hit" ever.
Has this happened before?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 11:14:09 GMT -5
"IDGAF" in the top 100 of the year, but wasn't a Hot 100 "Top 40 Hit" ever. Has this happened before? Yes, several times in recent years.
"El Perdon" by Nicky Jam and Enrique Iglesias peaked at #56 with 30 weeks on the H100 - and made the 2015 Year End list at #96. It holds the record for lowest peaking Year-End hit. Kevin Gates' "Really Really" peaked at #46 and made the list at #92 in 2016. Last year, Gucci Mane and Drake made the list at #83 with the #41-peaking "Both". And even this year, aside from IDGAF, both "Dura" by Daddy Yankee and "X" by Nicky Jam and J Balvin peaked outside the top 40. There may even be more examples. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:05:55 GMT -5
Ok this is ridiculous I checked chart history and found that they barely had any hit album in America to begin with... But their random compilation album hit diamond status and charted more than 1000 weeks in catalog album charts... How does any of that make sense?
Bob Marley never had a top 40 hit. His compositions I Shot the Sheriff and Stir It Up were hits for Eric Clapton and Johnny Nash, but he never had any real hits of his own. There just wasn't acceptance of reggae music on US radio.
Eventually, it was accepted and embraced, and most people of a certain age can name and hum a half-dozen or more Marley tunes.
And, like the CCR Chronicle album that flopped when it first came out on vinyl, the move to CD gave his catalog a second and extensive life.
There's a parallel to music from the 1950's when black acts' compositions only got radio play when covered by white acts. But these days we remember the original Ray Charles What'd I Say, Little Richard Tutti Frutti and several Chuck Berry tracks and have forgotten the white covers. But their chart history www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=555979#p555979shows that their albums had very poor chart runs (mostly peaked outside of top 50, and probably only 1 could barely manage to make year-end list), indicating they had very limited success and recognition on all formats. And then suddenly a compilation album out and bam, diamond status, 1000+ weeks on catalog album chart, 500+ weeks in Billboard 200 (because of the recurrent rule before 2010), bigger chart success than a Taylor Swift album. It's similar to say BlocBoy JB has a compilation album: Side one 1. Look Alive (featuring Drake) 2. Rover 3. nonsense (featuring Drake never broke again) 4. Prod by Bloc 5. Let It Go 6. Buffalo Wings (remix) 7. Stir It Up Side two 1. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (remix) 2. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (edit) 3. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (dance mix) 4. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (7'' edit) 5. Look Alive (instrumental) And it mysteriously sold 5 million copies and more successful than Reputation and Scorpion |
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Post by rimetm on Dec 5, 2018 13:26:37 GMT -5
The complete list of sub-top-40 YE hits is:
2015: El Perdon (#56, 30 wks, #96 YE)
2016: Wicked (#41, 20 wks, #97 YE), Really Really (#46, 26 wks, #92 YE)
2017: Both (#41, 22 wks, #83 YE)
2018: IDGAF (#49, 23 wks, #99 YE), Dura (#43, 21 wks, #93 YE), X (Equis) (#41, 21 wks, #90 YE)
Only one song missed the top 50 entirely, all but two were in the bottom 10 of their respective year-ends, and all but one spent over the 20 weeks to recurrency in order to secure a spot.
-Wicked's the most mundane of the set, doing a pretty normal run with a peak and drop.
-Both's almost normal, with a late bloom giving it ample time in the 50-41 range and giving some bonus time in that zone, letting it get the highest of this group. X (Equis) is in a similar scenario, just lasting a long time to get that bonus week under normal circumstance.
-Dura was saved at the eleventh hour by a remix, which gave it one extra week at the chart below the top 50 because it had a bullet.
-IDGAF got 3 extra weeks below the top 50 because it happened to be unlucky enough to weather multiple album bombs while gaining.
-Really Really's the second-weirdest. It had a normal run seemingly with an uneventful #54 peak, then it suddenly had an 81-61 surge to grant it a 21st week. It then dropped off for a while, staying particularly high on Recurrent Songs, before returning for a 5 week run starting at #52, granted an early re-entry thanks to its new peak and bullet.
-Finally we've got the granddaddy and champion of weird low-peakers on the list, with El Perdon. Starting off thanks to its feature on the YouTube YTMA feature of a couple of songs at the handsome position of #66, it instantly dropped and wavered around the 80-100 range for months, finally picking up radio traction about 4 months in as an English version had just been released, granting the song its actual title on Billboard, El Perdon (Forgiveness). For the 10 weeks past the recurrent mark, it just kept bulleting until finally peaking at #56, reaching it, wavering, then finally hitting it once more before dropping off. That was quite the spectacle to witness back in the day, lemme tell ya.
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Post by Gary on Dec 5, 2018 15:26:51 GMT -5
The Year in Country Charts: Chris Stapleton Is Top Artist & Luke Combs Has Top Album
12/5/2018 by Jim Asker
Plus: Florida Georgia Line & Bebe Rexha's "Meant to Be" is No. 1 on the year-end Hot Country Songs chart.
Chris Stapleton is Billboard’s Top Country Artist of 2018, claiming the honor that he also took home in 2016. Last year, Stapleton finished second behind Sam Hunt, who cruised to the finish line mainly on the strength of his 34-week ruler on Hot Country Songs, “Body Like a Back Road.”
Billboard’s year-end music recaps are based on chart performance during the charts dated Dec. 2, 2017, to Nov. 17, 2018. Data registered before or after a title’s chart run is not considered in these standings. That methodology detail, and the December-to-November time period, account for some of the differences between these lists and the calendar-year recaps that are independently compiled by Nielsen Music.
Stapleton’s Top Country Artist triumph in 2018 is driven largely by the success of three albums -- all of which rank in the top 10 of the year-end Top Country Albums tally. His first major-label set, 2015's Traveller, ranks at No. 4, while From a Room: Volume 2 (No. 7) and From a Room: Volume 1 (No. 9), both from 2017, also make the cut.
All three titles have spent multiple weeks on the weekly Top Country Albums chart. Traveller, released in 2015, has spent 29 weeks at No. 1 on Top Country Albums and has been in the top 10 for all of 2018.
Nashville still hangs a lot of its hats (even though many of them are no longer the 10-gallon variety), on radio. Although radio success for Stapleton has been a bit late in coming, during 2018, he rang up his first No. 1 on Billboard’s Country Airplay chart.
The singer-songwriter’s sixth appearance on Country Airplay, “Broken Halos,” topped the March 24-dated list. “Halos” follows 2016’s No. 10-peaking “Nobody to Blame” as his second top 10 and his latest, “Millionaire,” has already cracked the Country Airplay top 15.
Rhett Rules Radio: The top Country Airplay Artist of the year is Thomas Rhett. Rhett scored two Country Airplay No. 1s in 2018: “Marry Me” (two weeks) and “Life Changes” (one). On the year-end Country Airplay chart, “Marry” finishes at No. 24 while “Life” sits at No. 15.
In 2017, Rhett ranked as the No. 2 Country Airplay Artist behind Blake Shelton; the latter is No. 5 in 2018. Rounding out the top four on the 2018 Country Airplay Artists tally are Luke Bryan (No. 2), Luke Combs (No. 3) and Kane Brown (No. 4).
Combs ‘One’ Is No. 1: Meanwhile, Combs’ This One’s for You rules as the year’s Top Country Album. The singer’s debut full-length effort bowed at No. 1 on the June 24, 2017-dated chart and has since been a constant presence on the list. The hits-filled album produced the No. 6 title on the year-end Hot Country Songs list: “One Number Away.” The tune also sits at No. 3 on the year-end Country Airplay tally.
Carrie Underwood Is Country’s Leading Lady: Billboard’s top female country artist for 2018 is Carrie Underwood.
Underwood, who will launch a worldwide tour in early 2019, changed record labels in early 2017. After spending 12 years with Sony’s Arista Nashville, the artist signed with Universal’s Capitol Nashville.
Carrie Underwood attends the 2018 Radio Disney Music Awards at Loews Hollywood Hotel on June 22, 2018 in Hollywood, Calif.
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Carrie Underwood Reacts to 'Cry Pretty' Debuting at No. 1 on Billboard 200 Chart
Her latest studio album, Cry Pretty, debuted atop Top Country Albums and the Billboard 200 on the chart dated Sept. 29, 2018, with 266,000 equivalent album units earned in its first week, according to Nielsen Music. Of that sum, 251,000 were from traditional album sales.
She also made history. On Top Country Albums, her six studio projects and a hits package make Underwood the first artist in the survey's 52-year history to post seven consecutive career-opening No. 1s. Miranda Lambert is right behind her with six career-opening No. 1s in a row.
On the year-end Top Country Albums tally, Cry Pretty ranks as the No. 10 title of the year -- and the only album by a woman in the top 20. The next highest-ranked album by a woman is Faith Hill’s collaborative set with Tim McGraw, The Rest of Our Life, at No. 24. After that, the next album by a woman is Underwood’s own Greatest Hits: Decade #1 at No. 26.
On the overall Top Country Artists ranking, Underwood is the only woman in the top 20, finishing at No. 13, with Maren Morris next on the list at No. 24.
Florida Georgia Line Leads Duo/Groups, ‘Meant’ Is Year’s Top Country Song: In the Top Country Artists - Duo/Group category, it’s Florida Georgia Line, consisting of Tyler Hubbard and Brian Kelley, on top. This is the third year in-a-row FGL has finished as country’s top duo/group.
FGL, with the help of pop-star collaboration partner, Bebe Rexha, ran the table on the airplay, streaming and sales-based Hot Country Songs chart this year.
Their country and pop crossover smash, “Meant to Be,” which was penned by Rexha and Hubbard along with David Garcia and Josh Miller, arrived atop Hot Country Songs on Dec. 16, 2017 -- shortly after the 2018 chart year began on Dec. 2. It held in the penthouse for its first 50 frames, through the Nov. 17, 2018-dated list (the final week of the 2018 chart year).
“Meant” became the longest-running No. 1 in the history of Hot Country Songs, which was started in 1958. It passed the former title holder for longest chart rule, Sam Hunt’s “Body Like a Back Road,” in its 35th week.
No surprise then that “Meant” is No. 1 on the year-end Hot Country Songs tally. It also sits at No. 26 on the Country Airplay Songs recap.
“Simple,” FGL’s follow-up to “Meant,” marked a sonic 180 turn for the duo, with its more organic production. “Simple” crowned Country Airplay on the Oct. 20-dated tally, becoming the pair’s 14th Country Airplay No. 1. The song peaked at No. 2 on Hot Country Songs as the duo’s own “Meant to Be,” became a brick wall of sorts for other songs this year.
FGL also scored on the weekly Country Airplay chart during 2018 with another collaboration: Morgan Wallen’s “Up Down” featuring FGL, which led Country Airplay on June 30 for one frame.
“Simple” and “Up Down” join “Meant to Be” in the top 10 on the year-end Hot Country Songs roundup, as “Simple” and “Up” rank at Nos. 7 and 10, respectively.
Jordan Davis Is Year’s Top New Country Artist: Singer-songwriter Jordan Davis is Billboard’s Top New Artist for 2018. Davis’ launch single “Singles You Up” topped Country Airplay on April 21 for one week and peaked at No. 4 on Hot Country Songs the same week.
“Singles” ranks at No. 19 on the year-end Hot Country Songs chart and No. 28 on the Country Airplay Songs recap.
Davis’ first studio LP, Home State, started and peaked at No. 6 on Top Country Albums with 11,000 units on April 7. It closes the year at No. 49 on the year-end Top Country Albums chart.
A “Heaven”-ly No. 1 for Kane Brown: Kane Brown also turned in a very notable performance in 2018. Brown finishes with the No. 1 Country Airplay song of 2018, with “Heaven,” and also closes out the year as the No. 2 Top Country Artist and the No. 2 male country artist.
The 25-year-old is heading into the 2019 chart year in a big way, as his latest album, Experiment, bowed at No. 1 on the Top Country Albums chart dated Nov. 24 (the first week of the 2019 chart year).
Experiment is the follow-up to his self-titled first LP debuted atop the Dec. 24, 2016-dated Top Country Albums chart, adding 11 more weeks at the summit, beginning Oct. 28, 2017, following its reissue with bonus tracks. The self-titled album closes out 2018 as the No. 2 title on the Top Country Albums recap.
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Post by Gary on Dec 5, 2018 15:28:05 GMT -5
The Year in R&B/Hip-Hop Charts: Drake Is Top Artist for Record Fifth Year
12/5/2018 by Trevor Anderson
He also claims 2018's top album & song on the year-end R&B/hip-hop charts.
Drake adds yet another record to his Billboard résumé, as he leads the 2018 year-end Top R&B/Hip-Hop Artists ranking for an unprecedented fifth time. The superstar extends his title defense to a fourth consecutive year (having led the list in 2015, 2016 and 2017), in addition to his first coronation in 2012. With five year-end finishes, Drake overtakes the record he shared with R. Kelly, who led the list on four occasions: 1994, 1996, 1999 and 2001.
Billboard’s year-end music recaps are based on chart performance during the charts dated Dec. 2, 2017, to Nov. 17, 2018. Data registered before or after a title’s chart run is not considered in these standings. That methodology detail, and the December-to-November time period, account for some of the differences between these lists and the calendar-year recaps that are independently compiled by Nielsen Music.
This time, Drake traces his massive year to Scorpion, which ends the year as the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Album. The set, which posted five weeks on the corresponding Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart No. 1 during the 2018 chart year (Dec. 2, 2017 through Nov. 17, 2018), is Drake’s fourth time at the helm of the annual ranking. He previously was top of the class in 2012 with Take Care, 2015 with If You’re Reading This It’s Too Late and 2016 with Views.
And yes, the 6 God completes the holy trinity by also claiming the year’s No. 1 title on the 2018 Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs recap with “God’s Plan.” The single debuted at No. 1 on the weekly Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs ranking in February and clocked 11 consecutive weeks at the summit, tied for the longest reign of any track this year with fellow Scorpion cut “In My Feelings.”
“Plan” duplicates its top-dog status on the year-end Billboard Hot 100 recap, Drake’s first time in the winner’s circle.
In addition to his aforementioned triple crown, Drake likewise posts another hat trick as the No. 1 artist on the R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay, R&B/Hip-Hop Digital Song Sales and R&B/Hip-Hop Streaming Songs charts.
New ‘WRLD’ Order: Meanwhile, Juice WRLD snags the Top New R&B/Hip-Hop Artist honor thanks to an impressive set of singles and hit album. The rookie first broke during the summer with a pair of streaming-friendly tracks: “All Girls Are the Same” and “Lucid Dreams.” While the former peaked at No. 20 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and spent 20 weeks on the chart, the latter combined its consistently high streams with a late surge in airplay to reach No. 1 on the list for two weeks in October.
Fans quickly proved the now 20-year-old Chicago native was no two-hit wonder. His debut studio set, Goodbye & Good Riddance, opened at No. 3 on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and spent its first 22 weeks inside the chart’s top 10.
In addition to his own set, the artist (born Jared Higgins) earned an impressive co-sign in his rookie season by collaborating with Future on the joint album, Future & Juice WRLD Present…WRLD on Drugs, which debuted at No. 1 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart in November.
Ella Mai Takes Radio Prize: Though Drake is the year’s top artist on the R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart, 2018’s top song belongs to Ella Mai’s “Boo’d Up.” In an era of incessant instant viral hits, this song took the scenic route, taking more than a year to bloom from a languishing R&B cut to a record-breaking radio hit.
Mai originally uploaded “Boo’d” in February 2017 alongside her Ready EP. Reception began to grow, though, after the British singer-songwriter opened several dates for Kehlani’s SweetSexySavage Tour and radio airplay began slowly but steadily improving. The uptick hit its stride in the spring of 2018, and strong reception from both adult and mainstream audiences helped the song scale the summit of the weekly R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart in June.
Though the march to No. 1 was slow, the reward was rich. “Boo’d” held onto the rank for 16 straight weeks, an unparalleled feat for any song by a woman and the second-best showing of any title in the chart’s 25-year history. By topping the chart for nearly one-third of a year, “Boo’d” not only lays secures its status as the 2018 champ, but Mai’s debut single also earns a place among the biggest R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay hits of all time.
Beyond its radio feat, “Boo’d” also wraps 2018 as the top track on the R&B Streaming Songs and Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop airplay charts. Plus, its 13-week standing at No. 1 on Hot R&B Songs helps Mai claim the honor of the year’s top Hot R&B Songs artist.
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Post by badrobot on Dec 5, 2018 16:31:09 GMT -5
It's very uncommon but legit.
Bob Marley never had a top 40 hit. His compositions I Shot the Sheriff and Stir It Up were hits for Eric Clapton and Johnny Nash, but he never had any real hits of his own. There just wasn't acceptance of reggae music on US radio.
Eventually, it was accepted and embraced, and most people of a certain age can name and hum a half-dozen or more Marley tunes.
And, like the CCR Chronicle album that flopped when it first came out on vinyl, the move to CD gave his catalog a second and extensive life.
There's a parallel to music from the 1950's when black acts' compositions only got radio play when covered by white acts. But these days we remember the original Ray Charles What'd I Say, Little Richard Tutti Frutti and several Chuck Berry tracks and have forgotten the white covers. But their chart history www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=555979#p555979shows that their albums had very poor chart runs (mostly peaked outside of top 50, and probably only 1 could barely manage to make year-end list), indicating they had very limited success and recognition on all formats. And then suddenly a compilation album out and bam, diamond status, 1000+ weeks on catalog album chart, 500+ weeks in Billboard 200 (because of the recurrent rule before 2010), bigger chart success than a Taylor Swift album. It's similar to say BlocBoy JB has a compilation album: Side one 1. Look Alive (featuring Drake) 2. Rover 3. nonsense (featuring Drake never broke again) 4. Prod by Bloc 5. Let It Go 6. Buffalo Wings (remix) 7. Stir It Up Side two 1. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (remix) 2. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (edit) 3. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (dance mix) 4. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (7'' edit) 5. Look Alive (instrumental) And it mysteriously sold 5 million copies and more successful than Reputation and Scorpion I’m going to guess you are very young. Bob Marley is considered an all-time classic artist, and is by far the biggest reggae artist in history. Unfortunately, much of that fame and respect came after his death. And unlike many artists whose legacy is spread across several albums, this one collection served as a fairly definitive album for him, and thus his catalog sales are concentrated here. Also note that before the digital era, greatest hits albums were often HUGE sellers because there was no other way to get all an artist’s hits unless they were spending $100+ on multiple albums. There is nothing mysterious about this. Perhaps when you see an album with an impressive chart history over decades, you should take the time to learn about the artist and get more well versed in music history. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 5, 2018 16:33:22 GMT -5
A 'must-have' album for any music collection
Bob Marley's music didn't catch on until after his death. Quirky chart rules for catalog album limit the chart run but the diamond status is legit
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Post by Gary on Dec 5, 2018 17:04:04 GMT -5
The Year in Rock Charts: Imagine Dragons Triumph Again, lovelytheband & Bad Wolves Break Through
12/5/2018 by Kevin Rutherford
Let’s run down a list of accolades for Imagine Dragons on Billboard’s 2018 year-end rock charts.
Top Rock Artist. Top song on the Alternative Digital Song Sales, Hot Rock Songs, Rock Digital Song Sales and Rock Streaming Songs charts. Top artist on the Alternative Albums Artists, Hot Rock Songs Artists, Alternative Songs Artists, Top Rock Albums Artists, Rock Airplay Artists, Rock Digital Song Sales Artists and Rock Streaming Songs Artists charts. Top album on the Alternative Albums and Top Rock Albums charts.
Other rock acts existed in 2018. Hell, some of them -- lovelytheband, Portugal. The Man, Panic! at the Disco, Foster the People among them -- had a pretty good year. But none of them could even come close to competing with the dominance brought by Las Vegas’ Imagine Dragons on Billboard’s rock charts in 2018.
Billboard’s year-end music recaps are based on chart performance during the charts dated Dec. 2, 2017, to Nov. 17, 2018. Data registered before or after a title’s chart run is not considered in these standings. That methodology detail, and the December-to-November time period, account for some of the differences between these lists and the calendar-year recaps that are independently compiled by Nielsen Music.
Explore All of Billboard's 2018 Year-End Charts
And the only thing that might be somewhat surprising about Imagine Dragons’ triumph is that much of the four-piece’s successes came with music released in 2017.
“Thunder,” the song that leads the year-end Hot Rock Songs, Rock Digital Song Sales and Alternative Digital Song Sales charts, was initially released as the second single from 2017’s Evolve; in fact, it first made the former list in May 2017. “Believer,” which rules the year-end Rock Streaming Songs list, first reached that chart in February 2017. Evolve, the top set on the Top Rock Albums and Alternative Albums rankings, came out at the end of June 2017.
But Imagine Dragons persisted. Oh, did they persist. In fact, had it not been for a two-week run at No. 1 on Hot Rock Songs by Panic! at the Disco’s “High Hopes” at the end of the chart year (which began with the Dec. 2, 2017-dated list and ran through Nov. 17, 2018), Imagine Dragons would have ruled Hot Rock Songs for the entirety of 2018, with three different songs. “Thunder” eventually relented to third Evolve single “Whatever It Takes” in April 2018, and that song led for 17 weeks before “Thunder” returned atop the tally for three additional weeks. Then came “Natural,” the lead single from 2018’s Origins, which took over for “Thunder” and reigned for 11 more frames.
Yeah, that’s right, lead single. From a new album. While much of Imagine Dragons’ 2018 success came from music originally released in 2017, some credit has to be given to “Natural,” released in July. Initially premiered as the anthem for ESPN’s college football coverage, the song eventually became the first song released from a brand-new album. Origins’ impact is long from being fully felt, though; the album came out one week after the close of the 2018 year-end charts, meaning much of its impact will be realized in 2019.
All of which is to say that if you’re tired of Imagine Dragons dominating the year-end rock charts, you probably shouldn’t check out this space a year from now.
Newcomers Have Quite the Year: At the beginning of 2018, it’s likely many weren’t familiar with lovelytheband or Bad Wolves. The former had just one EP, Everything I Could Never Say…, to its credit, and the latter had yet to release a single collection of songs. The band was mostly known for its frontman, Tommy Vext, who’d filled in for Five Finger Death Punch’s Ivan Moody on the band’s 2017 European tour.
Funny the difference a year can make. Not only is lovelytheband the Top New Rock Artist for 2018 and Bad Wolves a close No. 2, both acts are also within the top 10 of the year-end Top Rock Artists list at Nos. 8 and 9, respectively.
The last time two new artists reached the year-end top 10? 2015, when George Ezra and Elle King reached Nos. 9 and 10, respectively. More impressively, lovelytheband is the highest-ranking new artist on the all-band ranking since Bastille came in at No. 3 on the 2014 list.
And that’s not even mentioning Greta Van Fleet, who comes in at No. 3 on the Top New Rock Artists ranking. The Frankenmuth, Mich., band’s Top Rock Artists placement? No. 11, just outside the top 10.
Together, this trio of new-ish acts was all over the Billboard rock charts in 2018. Lovelytheband’s breakthrough single “Broken” ends up the No. 1 song on the year-end Alternative Songs and Rock Airplay tallies, ruling each list for nine weeks. The song also became one of the genre’s handful of crossover hits in 2018, ascending to No. 1 on the Adult Pop Songs airplay chart at the tail end of the chart year (Nov. 17) and moving into the top 20 on Pop Songs.
And then there was Bad Wolves and Greta Van Fleet, who we’ll group together here due to an interesting feat all their own: they’re hard rock bands. No act categorized within the hard rock genre had made the Top New Rock Artists list since 2011, when My Darkest Days and Pop Evil came in at Nos. 3 and 5, respectively.
Bad Wolves’ ascension came out of tragedy. The band had been set to record a cover of The Cranberries’ “Zombie” with Dolores O’Riordan when the singer died unexpectedly on Jan. 15. Four days later, Bad Wolves released their version, sans O’Riordan, as a tribute, eventually donating proceeds from the song’s sale to her children.
The story could have ended there, but radio had other plans. “Zombie” eventually rose to No. 1 on the Mainstream Rock Songs airplay chart, ruling for three weeks beginning in May 2018, slotting in at No. 4 on the year-end ranking. The song was also a presence on Hot Rock Songs, where it ranks at No. 8 on the year-end tally, peaking at No. 5 in March.
Greta Van Fleet took a slightly more conventional path to the top. A band of three brothers and a friend, none older than their early 20s, the rockers rode a wave of classic rock nostalgia that actually started in 2017, when debut single “Highway Tune” led Mainstream Rock Songs for five weeks beginning in September 2017. The band has since added two more leaders on the chart, premiered an eight-song EP From the Fires at the start of the chart year and eventually dropped their debut full-length album Anthem of the Peaceful Army in October.
Don’t Sweat It: Sure, Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats were bound to have a substantial year on the Adult Alternative Songs airplay chart; they were all over the list in 2015 and 2016 with their debut self-titled album, reaching No. 2 on the year-end Adult Alternative Songs list in 2016 behind format heavy-hitters The Lumineers.
But this? This is something.
Not only is Rateliff and co. No. 1 on the year-end Adult Alternative Songs Artists tally – the band also has the top two songs on 2018’s year-end Adult Alternative Songs chart, a feat that’s been accomplished, well, never. At least, not until now.
“You Worry Me,” the lead single from the group’s sophomore effort Tearing at the Seams, came first, leading Adult Alternative Songs for nine weeks beginning in February 2018; it’s the year-end No. 1. Then there’s “A Little Honey,” the No. 2 year-end track, which actually only peaked at No. 2 on the weekly chart but remained there for five weeks along with spending 12 weeks in the chart’s top five -- plus 26 weeks on the list total, more than any other song in 2018.
And as if that wasn’t enough, the Night Sweats capped off the year with a third single, “Hey Mama,” which had already ascended into the chart’s top 20 by the end of the chart year in just three weeks on the list.
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Post by imbondz on Dec 5, 2018 17:43:50 GMT -5
35 I Like Me Better, Lauv ...One of the weirdest chart runs I’ve seen. Ends the year ranked as the 35th biggest hit of 2018. So weird. I like the song #35 just seems really high.
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Post by Gary on Dec 5, 2018 19:11:09 GMT -5
The Year in Streaming Charts: Hip-Hop Dominates, But Rock & Country Score Highlights
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By Kevin Rutherford | December 05, 2018 5:43 PM EST
If you need any proof of hip-hop’s streaming dominance, look no further than Billboard’s year-end Streaming Songs Artists chart for 2018.
Of the 25 acts featured on the 2018 list, 17 are rappers, exceeding the 15-rapper mark set in 2017. The top 10 features eight of those musicians, including the entire top four.
Additionally, on the 75-position year-end Streaming Songs chart, 50 songs come from the hip-hop genre, up from 40 in 2017.
Billboard’s year-end music recaps are based on chart performance during the charts dated Dec. 2, 2017, to Nov. 17, 2018. Data registered before or after a title’s chart run is not considered in these standings. That methodology detail, and the December-to-November time period, account for some of the differences between these lists and the calendar-year recaps that are independently compiled by Nielsen Music.
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That’s not to say no other genre had any bright spots on Billboard’s streaming charts in 2018, but for the most part, rap continued to assert its dominance. From Drake to Post Malone, XXXTentacion to Juice WRLD, the genre was inescapable among top hits playlists on services like Spotify and Apple Music, and on the Streaming Songs chart in general. And they weren’t just slow-builders, either; in 2018, 11 songs debuted at No. 1 on Streaming Songs, 10 of them hip-hop songs. Only four did so in 2017 (three rap) and two in 2016 (neither rap).
To that end, rap not only dominated streaming in 2018 – it turned the charts into a vehicle for significant moments. Reaching No. 1 on Streaming Songs was a feat before, but it’s since become something a title often does out of the gate, denoting that week as the week of “God’s Plan,” or of “This Is America,” or of “I Love It.” Sometimes those songs stay atop the chart, sometimes they don’t. But one thing is for sure: their premieres are events, and the goal is to rack up as many clicks as possible before the clock resets.
Drake Takes the Cake: For the second time, Drake is the No. 1 act on the year-end Streaming Songs Artists list. Previously, the Canadian superstar ruled the 2016 list in a year that saw him debut full-length album Views after scoring a new personal high on the 2015 ranking at No. 3. He followed that up by dropping to No. 5 in 2017, his More Life playlist album was his only taste of cohesive material.
2018, of course, saw Drake re-enter the conversation in a big way. After debuting “God’s Plan” and “Diplomatic Immunity” in January, he continued to drop new songs prior to the release of the 25-song behemoth Scorpion album in late June.
In all, Drake scored 34 entries on the weekly Streaming Songs list in 2018. He also appears on the year-end ranking eight times, with “Plan” the most-streamed song of the year, coming in at No. 1. The track became Drake’s biggest song yet on Streaming Songs, leading the list for 11 weeks, more than any other song in 2018. The second-most weeks at No. 1? The rapper’s “In My Feelings,” which ruled the chart for eight weeks. “Nice for What” added four weeks atop the tally, the fourth-longest among any song this year.
Drake’s 2018 feats didn’t just concern his Scorpion material. He hopped on a pair of songs from emerging rappers that shot said artists to stardom (as well as the year-end Streaming Songs chart). First came BlocBoy JB’s “Look Alive,” which enters at No. 13 on the year-end list and debuted at No. 2 on the Streaming Songs tally dated Feb. 24 thanks to Drake’s appearance. Then came Lil Baby’s “Yes Indeed,” which eventually reached No. 1 on the chart (and comes in at No. 16 on the year-end chart).
Rock Comes Back: Only twice had a rock act reached the top 10 of the year-end Streaming Songs Artists chart before 2018. First came Imagine Dragons, which ranked at No. 5 in 2013 on the strength of hits “It’s Time,” “Radioactive” and “Demons.” Then came twenty one pilots and its No. 4 ranking on the 2016 list with the success of “Stressed Out,” “Ride” and “Heathens.”
Make that three times. Imagine Dragons reach the 2018 list at No. 10, joining Ed Sheeran (No. 3) as the only non-hip-hop acts in the year-end top 10.
Perhaps most impressively, Imagine Dragons reach the top 10 with the least amount of songs (three) to have made the Streaming Songs list all year of anyone else in the top 10 (Sheeran had four; Drake, as previously noted, had 34). In an era where many streaming winners do so with a glut of songs over the course of a year, Imagine Dragons did so with a smaller – but altogether potent – lineup. “Believer,” which ranks at No. 15 on the year-end songs list, has remained on the weekly chart despite its initial February 2017 release, and “Thunder” (year-end No. 40) spend multiple weeks inside the weekly top 20, peaking at No. 18 in December 2017.
Imagine Dragons’ songs are also the only rock tracks on the year-end list, and they also claim three of the five rock songs to make Streaming Songs for at least one week the entire year, joined by songs from Portugal. The Man and Queen.
Country’s First Top 10: For the first time, a country song makes the top 10 of the year-end Streaming Songs chart, as Bebe Rexha and Florida Georgia Line’s “Meant to Be” comes in at No. 10.
The previous best? Sam Hunt’s “Body Like a Back Road,” which reached No. 24 on 2017’s year-end ranking.
“Meant to Be,” a country-pop crossover smash, hits No. 10 on the year-end list despite never actually reaching the top 10 on the weekly Streaming Songs list, peaking at No. 11 (March 24). Its longevity assists its overall ranking, as the track reached Streaming Songs for much of the year, oftentimes in the chart’s top half.
It’s also the first top 10 on the year-end Streaming Songs for both artists; while Florida Georgia Line’s “Cruise” came in at No. 27 on the 2013 list, Rexha’s “Me Myself & I” with G-Eazy ranked at No. 15 on the 2016 ranking.
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Post by 85la on Dec 6, 2018 0:10:16 GMT -5
Surprised that This Is America just missed the top 50. It seemed like the two weeks it was at #1, with the video and all, were very huge, but I guess they couldn't have been that huge. I guess the last time a #1 song missed the top 50 Year-End, with all of its chart weeks included in one year, was Hold It Against Me, no? In fact, I'm not completely sure, but I think TIA and HIAM were the only two non-American Idol related songs with their full chart runs included in one year to miss the YE top 50 during the Soundscan era.
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Post by renaboss on Dec 6, 2018 8:06:51 GMT -5
Has there ever been this many non-top 10 songs in a top 50 of the year-end chart? So many injusticed songs...
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 6, 2018 10:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 11:03:32 GMT -5
Has there ever been this many non-top 10 songs in a top 50 of the year-end chart? So many injusticed songs... Yet another shift in the streaming era. Longevity trumps peak in many cases. Longevity used to go hand-in-hand with a high (or even fairly high) peak, but that's often not the case anymore. |
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Post by jodakyellow on Dec 6, 2018 12:28:35 GMT -5
I had no idea that Cardi B's actual sales were so low... "Cher sold more albums in 2018 than Cardi B" is my new favorite conversation starter. Since we want to talk about bundles all the time, let's talk bundles! Cher's album was heavily inflated by tour ticket bundles. Without them, she probably wouldn't have gotten her album into the top 10. Cardi's sales had 0 ticket bundles included. Every last one of her sales was an iTunes/digital retailer purchase. Let's also talk streaming! Cher has next to no streaming base, which means her audience will buy the CD/digital copy. Cardi's audience mainly streams instead of purchasing. That's why Cardi is nearing 2 million equivalent album units sold, all in less than a year. Oh make sure you also include in your conversation how Cardi's album is only the 6th best selling album of 2018 while Cher is all the way down at 193. For a name that is inspired by Bodak Yellow, you would think that person wouldn't do Cardi like that. Oh honey chill. It's a surprising stat that anyone who understands the current musical climate can see is kinda misleading. That's all I'm saying. |
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Post by Mayman on Dec 6, 2018 15:13:58 GMT -5
Since we want to talk about bundles all the time, let's talk bundles! Cher's album was heavily inflated by tour ticket bundles. Without them, she probably wouldn't have gotten her album into the top 10. Cardi's sales had 0 ticket bundles included. Every last one of her sales was an iTunes/digital retailer purchase. Let's also talk streaming! Cher has next to no streaming base, which means her audience will buy the CD/digital copy. Cardi's audience mainly streams instead of purchasing. That's why Cardi is nearing 2 million equivalent album units sold, all in less than a year. Oh make sure you also include in your conversation how Cardi's album is only the 6th best selling album of 2018 while Cher is all the way down at 193. For a name that is inspired by Bodak Yellow, you would think that person wouldn't do Cardi like that. Oh honey chill. It's a surprising stat that anyone who understands the current musical climate can see is kinda misleading. That's all I'm saying. Most of the general public probably doesn't know what the different between pure sales and units are. |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 6, 2018 16:22:44 GMT -5
It's very uncommon but legit.
Bob Marley never had a top 40 hit. His compositions I Shot the Sheriff and Stir It Up were hits for Eric Clapton and Johnny Nash, but he never had any real hits of his own. There just wasn't acceptance of reggae music on US radio.
Eventually, it was accepted and embraced, and most people of a certain age can name and hum a half-dozen or more Marley tunes.
And, like the CCR Chronicle album that flopped when it first came out on vinyl, the move to CD gave his catalog a second and extensive life.
There's a parallel to music from the 1950's when black acts' compositions only got radio play when covered by white acts. But these days we remember the original Ray Charles What'd I Say, Little Richard Tutti Frutti and several Chuck Berry tracks and have forgotten the white covers. But their chart history www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=555979#p555979shows that their albums had very poor chart runs (mostly peaked outside of top 50, and probably only 1 could barely manage to make year-end list), indicating they had very limited success and recognition on all formats. And then suddenly a compilation album out and bam, diamond status, 1000+ weeks on catalog album chart, 500+ weeks in Billboard 200 (because of the recurrent rule before 2010), bigger chart success than a Taylor Swift album. It's similar to say BlocBoy JB has a compilation album: Side one 1. Look Alive (featuring Drake) 2. Rover 3. nonsense (featuring Drake never broke again) 4. Prod by Bloc 5. Let It Go 6. Buffalo Wings (remix) 7. Stir It Up Side two 1. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (remix) 2. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (edit) 3. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (dance mix) 4. Look Alive (featuring Drake) (7'' edit) 5. Look Alive (instrumental) And it mysteriously sold 5 million copies and more successful than Reputation and Scorpion What exactly are you bitching... I mean... questioning exactly? How old are you? Lord; these "young" adults. Bob Marley is one of the most Legendary music artists/singer-songwriters in history whom garnered far more fame and acclaim after his passing especially in North America. (He was a huge musical figure & concert attraction across Europe/Oceania when he was alive and in his prime). Marley + Marley and the Wailers have a very extensive studio-album catalogue. One of his very first "Greatest Hits" albums released after his passing became the first that compiled all his hits together and it's been selling in droves ever since. |
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