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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 19:26:34 GMT -5
Back in November she had no #1 hits and now people are mad she's only settling for #2 with her third top two hit in a row. I think it has a decent shot to get to #1 in a few weeks but I also can see it peaking this week which is still fine for her. I don’t be think it’s that and more that she’s releasing singles too quickly and having them cannibalize each other. She’s hot sh it right now so the public is eating it up, but she could probably get much more mileage out of each single by just waiting a bit longer to release them. For example, how much recurrent play is GIAW or Breathin getting? Close to none and I can’t see that changing down the road whereas I can see CHR still spinning them quite a bit (or at least a bit) if she actually gave them some space to breath. Hell, TUN was a strong #1 but it’s probablt gonna fall off just as fast because of 7 Rings and BUWYGIB stealing the spotlight. Well, that's not quite true. As of today, Breathin' has 5239 spins on pop, GIAW has 1937, and NTLTC has 1253. This places them at #22, #51, and #66, respectively, on the Pub. + Recurrents chart. Compared to recurrent songs of a similar chart age, this is a bit weak for NTLTC but on or slightly above par for GIAW. Breathin' is the oddball as there is no other song close to its age that is already recurrent except for Electricity (which wasn't nearly the size hit that Breathin' was) and it's still bleeding a pretty big chunk of spins daily. That does show how quickly Breathin' got shafted, but #22 is still a pretty high position for a recurrent and it's probably too soon to call how well it will hold up. It could bleed right on out in a month, or it could stabilize at some point. A long stretch of heavy recurrent play on CHR isn't really the norm anyway. Only 28 of the 100 songs on Pub/Recurrents are more than a year old, and only one is more than two years old (another song is about a week away from the two year mark). The more I think about it, the more I think that Ariana's singles are not cannibalizing each other as much as it appears. Yeah, they fall off the current chart faster than normal, but eventually radio slows down and holds on to them for a while - she has three technically 'inactive' singles that are still taking up a top 10 position's worth of spins amongst themselves. If anything, those older songs are just making it that much harder for newer artists to gain any traction because she continues to take up so much total space.
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Post by Choco on Feb 19, 2019 21:29:07 GMT -5
Back in November she had no #1 hits and now people are mad she's only settling for #2 with her third top two hit in a row. I think it has a decent shot to get to #1 in a few weeks but I also can see it peaking this week which is still fine for her. I don’t be think it’s that and more that she’s releasing singles too quickly and having them cannibalize each other. She’s hot sh it right now so the public is eating it up, but she could probably get much more mileage out of each single by just waiting a bit longer to release them. For example, how much recurrent play is GIAW or Breathin getting? Close to none and I can’t see that changing down the road whereas I can see CHR still spinning them quite a bit (or at least a bit) if she actually gave them some space to breath. Hell, TUN was a strong #1 but it’s probablt gonna fall off just as fast because of 7 Rings and BUWYGIB stealing the spotlight. Much like it happened with Rih, or even Katy during Teenage Dream, I think once the dust settles and Ari takes a break, radio will pick a few tracks out of all the hits and add them as recurrents (which is why you'll probably hear "Firework" and "E.T." a lot while "Last Friday Night", and the wonderful pop gem that is "Teenage Dream" are sitting mad at the corner, when they were all pretty much on par success-wise back in the day). I'd put good money on "no tears left to cry" aging well with listeners, for example. It might not be a #1 hit on the Hot 100 but aside from that it's probably one of the most recognizable pop hits of the last few years. On the other hand, I don't see radio playing "7 rings" that much after release, especially once the Circle of Life Pop Music moves away from trap-inspired stuff into some other direction as it will do.
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Post by Suono on Feb 19, 2019 23:30:22 GMT -5
I don’t be think it’s that and more that she’s releasing singles too quickly and having them cannibalize each other. She’s hot sh it right now so the public is eating it up, but she could probably get much more mileage out of each single by just waiting a bit longer to release them. For example, how much recurrent play is GIAW or Breathin getting? Close to none and I can’t see that changing down the road whereas I can see CHR still spinning them quite a bit (or at least a bit) if she actually gave them some space to breath. Hell, TUN was a strong #1 but it’s probablt gonna fall off just as fast because of 7 Rings and BUWYGIB stealing the spotlight. Much like it happened with Rih, or even Katy during Teenage Dream, I think once the dust settles and Ari takes a break, radio will pick a few tracks out of all the hits and add them as recurrents (which is why you'll probably hear "Firework" and "E.T." a lot while "Last Friday Night", and the wonderful pop gem that is "Teenage Dream" are sitting mad at the corner, when they were all pretty much on par success-wise back in the day). I'd put good money on "no tears left to cry" aging well with listeners, for example. It might not be a #1 hit on the Hot 100 but aside from that it's probably one of the most recognizable pop hits of the last few years. On the other hand, I don't see radio playing "7 rings" that much after release, especially once the Circle of Life Pop Music moves away from trap-inspired stuff into some other direction as it will do. Well said. It's fun to theorize about what will stand out in a few years, since so much has been released at once. I think 7 Rings and GIAW will get lost in time, and NTLTC , TUN and maybe one more (breathin?) will be the stand outs that we hear referenced and played often in five years. The only thing I disagree with is the Katy songs you picked- I actually think I hear Teenage Dream and LFN way more frequently on random dentist-office-pleasant-pop radio than Firework or E.T. Anyone have any data on which of the Teenage Dream era singles are currently the most popular?
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 20, 2019 6:20:57 GMT -5
POP: 7 6 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 12889 11040 1849 69.251
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HOT AC: 25 21 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1161 947 214 4.438
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RHYTHMIC: 15 12 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 2828 2581 247 9.582
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 14:08:15 GMT -5
The only thing I disagree with is the Katy songs you picked- I actually think I hear Teenage Dream and LFN way more frequently on random dentist-office-pleasant-pop radio than Firework or E.T. Anyone have any data on which of the Teenage Dream era singles are currently the most popular? I think you have to have a Billboard.biz subscription to see full recurrent data. It would be interesting to compare recurrent airplay to recurrent streaming which is more self-selective. On Spotify, the most streamed songs from TD are Firework (316m), The One That Got Away (241m combined for the original and acoustic versions), Last Friday Night (235m combined for the original and Missy Elliott remix), and California Gurls (205m). At this particular moment, LFN, Firework, and oddly enough Part of Me are the only three songs on her page's top 10. NTLTC is the only non-TUN song in her top 10, which seems like an early indicator as to which Sweetener single will be most enduring. I'd guess the title track for TUN would be the one that lasts longest from that album.
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Post by gabe on Feb 20, 2019 14:14:31 GMT -5
The only thing I disagree with is the Katy songs you picked- I actually think I hear Teenage Dream and LFN way more frequently on random dentist-office-pleasant-pop radio than Firework or E.T. Anyone have any data on which of the Teenage Dream era singles are currently the most popular? I think you have to have a Billboard.biz subscription to see full recurrent data. It would be interesting to compare recurrent airplay to recurrent streaming which is more self-selective. On Spotify, the most streamed songs from TD are Firework (316m), The One That Got Away (241m combined for the original and acoustic versions), Last Friday Night (235m combined for the original and Missy Elliott remix), and California Gurls (205m). At this particular moment, LFN, Firework, and oddly enough Part of Me are the only three songs on her page's top 10. NTLTC is the only non-TUN song in her top 10, which seems like an early indicator as to which Sweetener single will be most enduring. I'd guess the title track for TUN would be the one that lasts longest from that album. I hear "Teenage Dream" the most out of all of Katy's songs. "Hot n Cold", "Firework", and "Roar" come up often as well. I wish I heard "I Kissed a Girl" more. Anyway, I think Ari will get recurrent play for NTLTC and TUN. I don't think anything else is worthy of it because her other popular songs (Problem, Break Free, etc.) aren't unique enough.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 21, 2019 6:20:52 GMT -5
POP: 7 6 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 13156 11304 1852 70.511
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HOT AC: 25 21 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1176 992 184 4.552
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RHYTHMIC: 15 12 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 2860 2603 257 9.728
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 22, 2019 6:15:28 GMT -5
POP: 7 6 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 13527 11540 1987 72.389
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HOT AC: 25 22 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1210 1019 191 4.762
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RHYTHMIC: 15 12 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 2898 2654 244 9.904
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 23, 2019 6:18:51 GMT -5
POP: 6 6 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 13943 11822 2121 74.563
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HOT AC: 25 22 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1235 1036 199 4.980
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RHYTHMIC: 14 12 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 2940 2711 229 10.196
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Post by Lumi on Feb 23, 2019 15:33:57 GMT -5
That f***ing update. No words.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 24, 2019 6:12:53 GMT -5
POP: 6 6 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14366 12116 2250 76.459
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HOT AC: 21 21 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1265 1072 193 5.277
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RHYTHMIC: 14 11 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 2986 2764 222 10.395
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Post by Lumi on Feb 24, 2019 13:36:42 GMT -5
Massive.
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Post by marc980 on Feb 24, 2019 15:40:22 GMT -5
With Sunflower starting to free fall this will obviously be the next #1 on Pop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2019 4:32:36 GMT -5
I feel like radio is trying to rush this to number one so they can stop playing it after it's peaks
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 25, 2019 7:31:02 GMT -5
POP: 6 5 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14647 12334 2313 77.815
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HOT AC: 21 20 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1297 1122 175 5.540
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RHYTHMIC: 14 11 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 3016 2801 215 10.581
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Post by thirddegree50123 on Feb 25, 2019 13:01:03 GMT -5
Why is the doing so well on Hot AC?
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Post by divasummer on Feb 25, 2019 13:25:35 GMT -5
Why is the doing so well on Hot AC? I have no clue I'm assuming there hopping on the Ari radio bandwagon. Plus that format has changed some in the last decade and is starting to mimic the CHR chart more and more.
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Post by thirddegree50123 on Feb 25, 2019 14:25:50 GMT -5
Why is the doing so well on Hot AC? I have no clue I'm assuming there hopping on the Ari radio bandwagon. Plus that format has changed some in the last decade and is starting to mimic the CHR chart more and more. Yeah, that had been getting better over the last year or so though. It seemed like there were many songs that made the top 20 and even scraped the top 10 without any Pop airplay. "God Is A Woman" bombed there and rightfully so. Don't get me wrong, I love that song but it didn't belong. This doesn't either IMO. But she's everywhere now so....
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 26, 2019 6:20:50 GMT -5
POP: 6 4 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 14981 12662 2319 79.441
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HOT AC: 21 19 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1338 1140 198 5.609
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RHYTHMIC: 12 11 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 3075 2835 240 10.837
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Post by vithor on Feb 26, 2019 17:44:54 GMT -5
this is why the internet was created THEY MADE A FULL VIDEO FOR THIS NOW! THIS IS INDEED WHY INTERNET WAS CREATED AND WHY I PAY FOR IT! I'M DYING!
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 26, 2019 21:05:19 GMT -5
I was just coming to post that lmao!
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 27, 2019 2:21:02 GMT -5
It kills me that people in the Hot 100 threads claim this is a non-event single and that it doesn't feel as big as it is when things like that exist. And I've seen like 4 or 5 different parodies of this song/music video. I don't know if it's been posted in here or not, but this is another one of my favorites.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Feb 27, 2019 5:17:15 GMT -5
this isn't going to do well on pop
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 27, 2019 6:16:35 GMT -5
Oh s**t. #3 this Sunday, #1 next week at this rate!
POP: 6 3 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 15398 12891 2507 81.257
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HOT AC: 21 20 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 1360 1162 198 5.778
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RHYTHMIC: 12 11 ARIANA GRANDE 7 Rings 3131 2831 300 11.062
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Post by Lumi on Feb 27, 2019 8:03:49 GMT -5
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Post by Mauricio on Feb 27, 2019 9:22:58 GMT -5
Also, almost top 10 on rhytmic. Did no tears left to cry reach top 10 there?
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Post by vithor on Feb 27, 2019 9:24:02 GMT -5
Also, almost top 10 on rhytmic. Did no tears left to cry reach top 10 there? If I remember correctly, it peaked at #10.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 27, 2019 9:49:55 GMT -5
I think 'No Tears' sputtered out just outside the top 10 on Rhythmic, actually (at least on Mediabase).
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Post by Mayman on Feb 27, 2019 11:28:26 GMT -5
I think 'No Tears' sputtered out just outside the top 10 on Rhythmic, actually (at least on Mediabase). Yeah I think it peaked at #12 or #13. IIRC, Never Be The Same was the last pop song to reach the top 10 at rhythmic.
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Post by Suono on Feb 27, 2019 12:41:59 GMT -5
The #1s keep rolling in
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