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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 7, 2019 17:28:23 GMT -5
POP 20 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 5595 5094 501 24.179 + 30 spins - 106 bullet - 0.033 audience
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 4:33:03 GMT -5
I won’t be surprised if radio starts to drop this because it doesn’t seem to be catching on anywhere else. But it’s only been stalling for a couple days so I’m not saying it’s over quite yet, as it still might go up again.
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Post by AP on Mar 8, 2019 11:11:29 GMT -5
Honestly the On the Verge deal is a curse unless the song has already been out digitally/on streaming and had time to organically build a bit. No song from an unheard artist no matter how good it is can build as quickly on sales/streaming to keep up with the type of airplay stations pump into OTV songs.
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Post by divasummer on Mar 8, 2019 12:08:05 GMT -5
Honestly the On the Verge deal is a curse unless the song has already been out digitally/on streaming and had time to organically build a bit. No song from an unheard artist no matter how good it is can build as quickly on sales/streaming to keep up with the type of airplay stations pump into OTV songs. I guess we all have different views on this because when I hear the "On The Verge" artist song introduced it makes me remember the song more. It also makes it feel more hyped up about it. I've heard this a couple of times during this promotion and in my opinion it makes me pay attention to the song more. However if your not into it, your not into it... I can't imagine this program hurting a song?? It gets heard by many and if it's supposed to be a hit it will take off.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 8, 2019 15:38:34 GMT -5
POP 19 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 5699 5207 492 24.471 + 104 spins - 9 bullet + 0.292 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 9, 2019 20:47:37 GMT -5
POP 18 17 FLETCHER Undrunk 5770 5268 502 25.145 + 71 spins + 10 bullet + 0.674 audience
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Mar 9, 2019 22:19:16 GMT -5
The word “unfuck” should’ve never been born into the world. She sings about how hurting herself with food TWICE doesn’t hurt as much as her breakup. Wow, it doesn’t? Also, why are you singing about cooking accidents?!?!?! You want to get “undrunk” but you’re squeezing a lime into another drink?!?!? WHY ARE YOU SINGING ABOUT COOKING?!??!?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2019 11:21:28 GMT -5
FWIW Fletcher is this week's cover photo artist on Spotify's Pop Rising playlist and Undrunk is the fifth song on the list. It's also #32 on TTH which isn't the greatest position, but it's something. We'll see if that helps any. Right now she barely has as many streams as a new artist who is barely inside CHR's top 30. I don't think OTV is a curse, it's just that labels keep wasting it on songs that aren't really good enough for it. Also, most of the time they don't line up any other promo for the artist to augment the airplay, so it becomes just another faceless voice on the radio. The word “unfuck” should’ve never been born into the world. She sings about how hurting herself with food TWICE doesn’t hurt as much as her breakup. Wow, it doesn’t? Also, why are you singing about cooking accidents?!?!?! You want to get “undrunk” but you’re squeezing a lime into another drink?!?!? WHY ARE YOU SINGING ABOUT COOKING?!??!? The lime in the drink is a reference to the alcoholic beverage that she knows she shouldn't be drinking, but is anyway b/c when she's sober all she thinks about is her ex. It doesn't work b/c then she ends up drunk-calling him and regretting it anyway. The actual cooking accident in the second prechorus occurred b/c she needs to eat to avoid a hangover, but since she's drunk she doesn't have the coordination to be properly handling anything heavy, whether that be her emotions or a pot of boiling water. Not a defense of the song - it sucks - but it does make sense for its given theme.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 10, 2019 12:50:45 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 11, 2019 12:53:58 GMT -5
POP 18 16 FLETCHER Undrunk 5890 5463 427 26.008 + 69 spins - 44 bullet + 0.613 audience
AC 47 47 FLETCHER Undrunk 13 16 -3 0.040
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Post by Naos on Mar 11, 2019 16:36:11 GMT -5
Bubbling Under Hot 100: #1 (+10)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 16:45:09 GMT -5
At least this achieved a record: highest ranking song on pop radio to never debut on the Hot 100. Other songs that come to mind are Glowing and Home with You.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 18:43:23 GMT -5
At least this achieved a record: highest ranking song on pop radio to never debut on the Hot 100. Other songs that come to mind are Glowing and Home with You. I guess that shows how much it’s still lacking in streaming and sales. Is this being promoted on any streaming services?
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Post by Naos on Mar 11, 2019 19:11:57 GMT -5
At least this achieved a record: highest ranking song on pop radio to never debut on the Hot 100. Other songs that come to mind are Glowing and Home with You. I guess that shows how much it’s still lacking in streaming and sales. Is this being promoted on any streaming services? She's on the cover of Pop Rising on Spotify, I believe. However, "Undrunk" only has 6.5 million worldwide streams.
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Post by sbk on Mar 11, 2019 20:06:04 GMT -5
At least this achieved a record: highest ranking song on pop radio to never debut on the Hot 100. Other songs that come to mind are Glowing and Home with You. I guess that shows how much it’s still lacking in streaming and sales. Is this being promoted on any streaming services? It's on Today's Top Hits (Spotify's most prominent and followed playlist)
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Post by gabe on Mar 11, 2019 20:13:02 GMT -5
That just shows that people don't want this song and it's being forced down our throats
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 12, 2019 12:28:19 GMT -5
POP 18 16 FLETCHER Undrunk 5947 5535 412 26.360 + 57 spins - 15 bullet + 0.352 audience
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Post by kanimal on Mar 12, 2019 13:11:10 GMT -5
- The tepid streaming performance is probably really surprising to all involved. Fletcher has received strong support from Spotify for years, and she used to give interviews essentially talking about how Spotify was making it increasingly possible to succeed without a major label.
So, I don't think anyone would have banked on streaming being the weakest link of her debut radio/major label single.
That said, a lot of the pop artists Spotify has championed have struggled to gain lasting traction on the platform. Names like Astrid S, Verite, Olivia Holt, Sasha Sloan and Maggie Lindemann (who are all talented and all probably appeal to a loosely similar taste as Fletcher) come to mind. Billie Eilish is one of the only semi-pop artists I recall turning Spotify support into bankable superstardom. And I think most of that goes to her & her team for building such a unique, recognizable, engaging persona, sound and style ... she's a star because she brought something special to Spotify, not because she was on Spotify.
- Feedback on the song is interesting. I see Tweets like "Undrunk by Fletcher is such a mood" or "this song is SO me," and she's received plenty of favorable press and reviews. The issue may be that she's appealing to a very specific audience ... a group that we CALL "influencers" but don't actually have much sway over mass culture.
That said, I don't know that we can dwell TOO heavily on the quality component, because the sales aren't as bad as people were suggesting. Who Do You Love is barely selling any better with similar pop airplay (and far more Hot AC play). I feel like Close To Me was selling worse at this level, and it's only barely selling better now despite being Top 10 at pop and Hot AC.
Might just be a case of ... it's an unknown artist and an unimposing sound, so it needs more time to build.
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Post by musicspy on Mar 12, 2019 16:48:34 GMT -5
I feel like on the pop charts, it is way higher than it should. I don't see much going on for this, radio will eventually drop it. However, reaching No1 on the bubbling under means it is not selling or streaming terrible. Home with you by Madison Beer had just a little less airplay and never appeared on any bubbling under chart. Also it never crossed to another format on the radio.
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Post by g8erboi on Mar 12, 2019 21:24:31 GMT -5
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Post by airbear92 on Mar 13, 2019 15:46:00 GMT -5
This sounds dated like Sweet but Psycho, except it isn't catchy enough to get away with it...
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 13, 2019 21:22:26 GMT -5
POP 18 16 FLETCHER Undrunk 5977 5566 411 26.575 + 30 spins - 1 bullet + 0.215 audience
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Post by AP on Mar 14, 2019 17:35:44 GMT -5
#143 on US Spotify #85 on iTunes
Higher than it's been on either chart and still moving in an upward trajectory, proving my point that throwing hundreds of spins at a random song by a random artist all at once isn't going to make a song skyrocket elsewhere. And I promise it's not about quality. The only OTV songs that have done well were already showing signs of them being a hit before it started receiving OTV spins. This one started getting spins from top stations like KIIS the day it came out.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 14, 2019 23:16:17 GMT -5
POP 18 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 6024 5598 426 26.746 + 47 spins + 15 bullet + 0.171 audience
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 15, 2019 2:56:12 GMT -5
I actually think the clean version is better, the swearing in the uncensored one is pretty forced.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 15, 2019 22:18:10 GMT -5
POP 18 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 6003 5699 304 26.654 - 21 spins - 122 bullet - 0.092 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 16, 2019 17:02:24 GMT -5
POP 17 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 6116 5770 346 26.947 + 113 spins + 42 bullet + 0.293 audience
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Post by kanimal on Mar 16, 2019 18:23:24 GMT -5
#143 on US Spotify #85 on iTunes Higher than it's been on either chart and still moving in an upward trajectory, proving my point that throwing hundreds of spins at a random song by a random artist all at once isn't going to make a song skyrocket elsewhere. And I promise it's not about quality. The only OTV songs that have done well were already showing signs of them being a hit before it started receiving OTV spins. This one started getting spins from top stations like KIIS the day it came out. Can't imagine anyone disagrees with this. The real question is whether it makes sense to apply the traditional sales/streaming/callout rubric to On The Verge songs: 1) We have plenty of examples proving that Top 20 airplay (especially Top 20 after only a few weeks) isn't enough to guarantee big sales and streams for little-known artists (heck, it's not enough to guarantee sales for big name artists anymore). So it seems weird to keep expecting songs to buck this trend / achieve the impossible. 2) What's really the point of On The Verge? Is it to test the viability of certain artists, or is to to discover & create new stars? It's supposed to be closer to the latter, and if that's the case, then the iHeart stations should be doing everything in their power to turn these songs into hits and artists into stars. Even if it means continuing to play them when the traditional metrics say to stop. The fact that stations bail on these songs as soon as they're allowed suggests a lack of alignment/unity about the purpose of this program. It either needs to be reworked to give artists a better shot of racking up the necessary sales and streaming numbers ... or iHeart brass has to do a better job of selling the individual stations on why they need to see these songs through.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:18:01 GMT -5
I actually like this song
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Post by Leo ✔ on Mar 17, 2019 12:50:26 GMT -5
POP 16 18 FLETCHER Undrunk 6196 5821 375 27.123 + 80 spins + 29 bullet + 0.176 audience
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