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Post by Naos on Apr 3, 2019 18:30:01 GMT -5
It's looking like this may be coming to an end at country radio. I'm hoping that it's just a bump in the road, but it has lost AI on Billboard for the last two weeks, as well as falling 34-38 this week. As well, it has also been losing spins on Mediabase, and is currently sitting at a -132. A big night for Kacey on Sunday could help turn things around, which I'm hoping for. It is only on its 7th week, which normally would mean that it should have a lot of time to turn around, but its chart run has been anything but typical, so I'm not sure what to think here. I’ve heard from someone in radio that this song is testing very poorly. Those without penises tend to test pretty poorly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 19:07:07 GMT -5
I’ve heard from someone in radio that this song is testing very poorly. Those without penises tend to test pretty poorly. It seems that way.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 3, 2019 19:19:35 GMT -5
Can anyone that works in radio just say if their are any female songs testing well? Because this one isn't, according to rsmatto Maren Morris isn't either. Are like Carly Pearce, Tenille Townes, Runaway June, or Kelsea Ballerini testing well?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Apr 3, 2019 19:27:24 GMT -5
Can anyone that works in radio just say if their are any female songs testing well? Because this one isn't, according to rsmatto Maren Morris isn't either. Are like Carly Pearce, Tenille Townes, Runaway June, or Kelsea Ballerini testing well? I don't work in radio, but I'm fairly certain Runaway June is testing well considering they've gotten a low-selling song into the top 25 in less than 150 days.
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Post by dm2081 on Apr 3, 2019 23:13:53 GMT -5
I won’t be surprised at all if this does get dropped at radio soon, in fact I pretty much expect it. But I find this over reliance on callout scores to be hilarious (and this isn’t exclusive to the country radio format either). This song has garnered critical acclaim, had a memorable live tv performance, and good sales all backing it, and yet radio is still going to shy away. I understand their main focus is not having listeners change the station due to advertising money, but failing to have variety and failing to feature songs with critical acclaim just seems dumb. While they may keep some people listening to the radio during their commute to work or wherever, it seems decisions like failing to spin this gem of a song is only going to drive more people to streaming, where they can get better variety and discover more new music. Just my two cents.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 4, 2019 0:27:08 GMT -5
I won’t be surprised at all if this does get dropped at radio soon, in fact I pretty much expect it. But I find this over reliance on callout scores to be hilarious (and this isn’t exclusive to the country radio format either). This song has garnered critical acclaim, had a memorable live tv performance, and good sales all backing it, and yet radio is still going to shy away. I understand their main focus is not having listeners change the station due to advertising money, but failing to have variety and failing to feature songs with critical acclaim just seems dumb. While they may keep some people listening to the radio during their commute to work or wherever, it seems decisions like failing to spin this gem of a song is only going to drive more people to streaming, where they can get better variety and discover more new music. Just my two cents. Couldn’t have said it better. Let radio suffer. KM has more than proven that she’s going to resonate with people in ways beyond country radio and its reach. Things have worked pretty well for her thus far, if I may say. This slowing down shouldn’t be a surprise. Country radio’s ego is too big for them to bend the knee to someone who’s basically told ‘em to go fuck themselves a hundred times over (and for valid reason).
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Post by rsmatto on Apr 5, 2019 5:33:15 GMT -5
Can anyone that works in radio just say if their are any female songs testing well? Because this one isn't, according to rsmatto Maren Morris isn't either. Are like Carly Pearce, Tenille Townes, Runaway June, or Kelsea Ballerini testing well? Kelsea and Runaway June are. Carly has in the past.
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Post by tonyei31 on Apr 7, 2019 15:38:43 GMT -5
I won’t be surprised at all if this does get dropped at radio soon, in fact I pretty much expect it. But I find this over reliance on callout scores to be hilarious (and this isn’t exclusive to the country radio format either). This song has garnered critical acclaim, had a memorable live tv performance, and good sales all backing it, and yet radio is still going to shy away. I understand their main focus is not having listeners change the station due to advertising money, but failing to have variety and failing to feature songs with critical acclaim just seems dumb. While they may keep some people listening to the radio during their commute to work or wherever, it seems decisions like failing to spin this gem of a song is only going to drive more people to streaming, where they can get better variety and discover more new music. Just my two cents. I tend to believe the radio listener is much more casual of a music fan. I agree with your sentiment 100% (and most/all on this board probably will), however we are in the minority of music fandom. I believe radio listeners want to hear what's popular amongst current genre flavor of the week (and have a few name recognition artists). Song Depth, uniqueness, true country, etc. are all variables the radio listener could care less about.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Apr 7, 2019 16:26:38 GMT -5
I love Rainbow, but I think all the options she burned through at the beginning of the era would've done better on radio after the AOTY win. :/
Hopefully she pulls a Miranda-White Liar with her next release and stays in the A-list for a couple of eras.
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Post by toomuchboy on Apr 7, 2019 17:17:40 GMT -5
"Rainbow" never felt like something you'd hear on radio unlike other material on the album, but they weren't going to play anything she released anyway. No harm, no foul.
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Post by recordyear on Apr 29, 2019 21:51:20 GMT -5
Dropped off from country airplay chart this week. Peak is #33 and 11 weeks on chart.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Apr 29, 2019 22:50:35 GMT -5
To bad for rainbow, it deserves better. People keep saying nothing else would have done better but we don't really know. They never even officially sent Butterflies or Spacecowboy to country radio, and you might say they serviced them, but no they weren't true singles. No song off Golden Hour was given a country adds date before rainbows impact date. Butterflies should have been a smash #1 hit and I still believe in it. RIP RAINBOW.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on May 7, 2019 13:15:39 GMT -5
Re-enters at #35 on Billboard! So glad to see this not being over yet! Hope it can go top 20 at least...
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 15:13:24 GMT -5
Space Cowboy or Butterflies should have been released.....Maybe they will be.
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Post by daddy on May 7, 2019 17:32:52 GMT -5
“Space Cowboy” is the song I hear connecting at country radio from this album.
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Post by Fancy on May 7, 2019 17:40:52 GMT -5
always felt this was the worst track they could’ve sent to radio, bar “mother”. I personally enjoy it (like any golden hour cut), but literally anything else would have been better. I hope it can get top 20 regardless
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Post by harrycareycubfan08 on May 8, 2019 1:15:30 GMT -5
“Space Cowboy” is the song I hear connecting at country radio from this album. I picture "Space Cowboy" being released as the next single. However, the title track might be a better choice for country radio.
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Post by harrycareycubfan08 on May 8, 2019 1:22:29 GMT -5
To bad for rainbow, it deserves better. People keep saying nothing else would have done better but we don't really know. They never even officially sent Butterflies or Spacecowboy to country radio, and you might say they serviced them, but no they weren't true singles. No song off Golden Hour was given a country adds date before rainbows impact date. Butterflies should have been a smash #1 hit and I still believe in it. RIP RAINBOW. "Rainbow" is a beautiful ballad, but doesn't look like country radio will pick up on this one. I agree, I think "Butterflies" should have been a #1 Billboard and Mediabase country hit for Kacey like I thought it would. Wasn't "High Horse" released as a single? I thought if Kacey Musgraves were to ever score her first #1 country hit, that would be the one, all though it sounds more disco. I'm sure Kacey Musgraves will score her first #1 country hit soon and many more after. Who knows, maybe "Rainbow" will make a sudden run to the top.
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Post by daddy on May 8, 2019 5:01:53 GMT -5
“Space Cowboy” is the song I hear connecting at country radio from this album. I picture "Space Cowboy" being released as the next single. However, the title track might be a better choice for country radio. I disagree strongly. As much as I love “Oh, What a World”, I don’t see country radio touching it. The hook of “Space Cowboy” is an ear worm.
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Post by recordyear on May 8, 2019 5:28:59 GMT -5
I picture "Space Cowboy" being released as the next single. However, the title track might be a better choice for country radio. I disagree strongly. As much as I love “Oh, What a World”, I don’t see country radio touching it. Um the title track is Golden Hour? Imo it is a bit too slow and mellow for country radio.
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Post by daddy on May 8, 2019 7:34:29 GMT -5
I disagree strongly. As much as I love “Oh, What a World”, I don’t see country radio touching it. Um the title track is Golden Hour? Imo it is a bit too slow and mellow for country radio. You know when you wake up and you’re basically still asleep and respond to a message before dozing off again. Well that was my last post. “Golden Hour” would make for a good single option, but I stick with my previous post (lol) that “Space Cowboy” is her biggest chance at a radio hit on this record.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 8, 2019 9:38:57 GMT -5
"Butterflies" and "Space Cowboy" are the hits of the record. Radio actually took to the former a little bit enough that it charted briefly last year without a real radio push, and "Space Cowboy" has a strong hook and the most critical acclaim of any other single track on the record. If they don't dip back into either of those, "Happy & Sad" would be a good choice for the 'untouched' songs on the record. I think they have a few options. That said, the whole release strategy of this album era with respect to country radio is unusual and it wouldn't even surprise me if they end it with "Rainbow." In a way, it kind of feels like a cap for the era. I'd like to see it hang on for a peak in the 20s at least, especially if they don't do another single.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on May 8, 2019 11:13:02 GMT -5
Oh What A World is going to get a video, and apparently it’s animated. I doubt it will get an actual push though.
I think they’ll end it off with Rainbow. Radio, however, is being a little bitch right now. It’s selling and streaming well, and yet they refuse to let it go any further.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on May 8, 2019 12:52:52 GMT -5
Kacey has already started working on the next album. Doubt she's very far along, but with the OWAW video coming (probably not until after Rainbow is done on radio), I bet that will be the last bit of promo we get for this album. Hopefully Kacey will only take a short break, but I'm fine with a longer break in between eras if we get quality material like STDP and GH instead of a more rushed product like Pageant Material. But I'd imagine we could get new music sometime next year.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on May 8, 2019 23:43:42 GMT -5
with the OWAW video coming (probably not until after Rainbow is done on radio) Or ya know, like, now... (Sorry for the double post but Tapatalk wouldn’t let me edit my previous one)
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Post by austin on May 9, 2019 9:25:45 GMT -5
"Rainbow" is an awesome song but was never something that was going to be a big hit (and would have been a risk even for a female with sustained radio success like Maren or Kelsea) so the fact it has even gone as far as it has is impressive.
I echo the above the "Butterflies" and "Space Cowboy" were the chances for a hit at radio, but that was a case of radio not appreciating what this era was going to be quiet yet.
Also, #JusticeForHighHorse
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Post by 14887fan on May 9, 2019 10:21:49 GMT -5
Y’all are nuts if you don’t think “Happy & Sad” isn’t a hit waiting in the gates. Even “Lonely Weekend” could crush, too.
Barring “Mother,” everything on this album could/should be an independent radio hit. Obviously I know that’s not how it works, sadly.
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Post by tryexp on May 11, 2019 3:03:36 GMT -5
Kacey has already started working on the next album. Doubt she's very far along, but with the OWAW video coming (probably not until after Rainbow is done on radio), I bet that will be the last bit of promo we get for this album. Hopefully Kacey will only take a short break, but I'm fine with a longer break in between eras if we get quality material like STDP and GH instead of a more rushed product like Pageant Material. But I'd imagine we could get new music sometime next year. I know she mentioned this in one interview I think (about working on the new album), but with tour dates well into fall 2019 I think it's most likely we won't get new music until spring/summer 2019. I agree with the longer break if she wants to give her time to get quality material, but coming from an era with such great critical acclaim and tons of new fans, with the pressure on, that break might be longer than what I assumed when GH was first released.
I was surprised the album only recently got Gold in the US, does anyone has the world sales figure? And any single sales figures?
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on May 11, 2019 17:20:52 GMT -5
Kacey has already started working on the next album. Doubt she's very far along, but with the OWAW video coming (probably not until after Rainbow is done on radio), I bet that will be the last bit of promo we get for this album. Hopefully Kacey will only take a short break, but I'm fine with a longer break in between eras if we get quality material like STDP and GH instead of a more rushed product like Pageant Material. But I'd imagine we could get new music sometime next year. I know she mentioned this in one interview I think (about working on the new album), but with tour dates well into fall 2019 I think it's most likely we won't get new music until spring/summer 2019. I agree with the longer break if she wants to give her time to get quality material, but coming from an era with such great critical acclaim and tons of new fans, with the pressure on, that break might be longer than what I assumed when GH was first released.
I was surprised the album only recently got Gold in the US, does anyone has the world sales figure? And any single sales figures?
I'm assuming you mean spring/summer 2020, not 2019, but I agree that's probably the earliest we'd get anything from her. Knowing the time and creative freedom Kacey had to make Golden Hour and now the reception that received, I think KM4 will take quite a bit longer than we may anticipate it to be. I'd wager we won't even get any new music in 2020. Hopefully I'm very wrong though, ha
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Post by tryexp on May 12, 2019 4:36:19 GMT -5
I know she mentioned this in one interview I think (about working on the new album), but with tour dates well into fall 2019 I think it's most likely we won't get new music until spring/summer 2019. I agree with the longer break if she wants to give her time to get quality material, but coming from an era with such great critical acclaim and tons of new fans, with the pressure on, that break might be longer than what I assumed when GH was first released.
I was surprised the album only recently got Gold in the US, does anyone has the world sales figure? And any single sales figures?
I'm assuming you mean spring/summer 2020, not 2019, but I agree that's probably the earliest we'd get anything from her. Knowing the time and creative freedom Kacey had to make Golden Hour and now the reception that received, I think KM4 will take quite a bit longer than we may anticipate it to be. I'd wager we won't even get any new music in 2020. Hopefully I'm very wrong though, ha I'm still in 2018...
I think album realistically only 2020, but if this new wave of recognition brings some opportunities for collaborations, which might at least mean we get something before the next single.
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