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Post by Lumi on Feb 20, 2019 19:08:45 GMT -5
"What About Us" is still my favorite single from her. Deserved better.
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Post by toomuchboy on Feb 20, 2019 19:54:18 GMT -5
I think it's okay, but weaker than her other opening singles. WAU, So What, Blow Me, Stupid Girls, Get the Party Started are all much stronger than this, imo--and among my favorite songs by her, period. I'm holding out hope the rest of the album is better and I can just blame my apathetic reaction to the lead on Ruess' involvement...
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Feb 20, 2019 20:29:10 GMT -5
WAU is such a great single. Loves it.
I'll wait for the video on this.
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Post by dbhmr on Feb 20, 2019 20:38:25 GMT -5
Am I hearing the same song as everyone else? This is a jam! Love the production. For real, this is great! Not sure why it's getting such negative reaction. I mean, do you guys want "So What" part 35 or no? I for one am glad she's growing and doing different sounds, and this sounds completely natural coming off of Beautiful Trauma. The production is great. That being said, I don't think this is necessarily lead single material. Sounds more like a third or fourth single from somewhere in the middle of the album. Basically it sounds like "Secrets." Where is this different sound?
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 20, 2019 21:26:16 GMT -5
For real, this is great! Not sure why it's getting such negative reaction. I mean, do you guys want "So What" part 35 or no? I for one am glad she's growing and doing different sounds, and this sounds completely natural coming off of Beautiful Trauma. The production is great. That being said, I don't think this is necessarily lead single material. Sounds more like a third or fourth single from somewhere in the middle of the album. Basically it sounds like "Secrets." Where is this different sound? Are we listening to different songs? I don't understand how people are listening to this and thinking it's the same as any of her previous singles. The closest I can think of is "What About Us," and even then it doesn't really sound like that either. I just don't get the "bland same sound" criticism here. It's almost as if that's everyone's default when they don't like a P!nk song. If this were 2013 and we were discussing "Blow Me" or 2016 and "Just Like Fire," I'd get it, but this doesn't sound like those to me. There's much less acoustic noises and way more electronic noises. Maybe lyrically or melodically it's nothing new, but production wise this different by quite a bit. So much so that I wouldn't even classify it as the same genre. This isn't pop/rock, it's just regular pop with adult contemporary influences. I'm just incredibly confused by this whole situation right now.
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Post by TroublemakerOlly on Feb 20, 2019 21:26:35 GMT -5
According to All Access, this is impacting 2/26. RCA sent out 2 blasts, first one listed the impact date as March 4th, the 2nd one stated impact now, guess they changed their plan after initial blast.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 21, 2019 7:25:43 GMT -5
IDK how much first-day airplay this got on pop; it didn't make the Spincrease list, and the starters list can only account for 5 spins (there could be single spins that are unaccounted for). It did get a strong first day at Hot AC though.
HOT AC: -- 31 P!NK Walk Me Home 542 0 542 4.942
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Post by trustypepper on Feb 21, 2019 9:12:06 GMT -5
As a lead single, not strong enough. But I actually love this.
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Post by kanimal on Feb 21, 2019 9:24:22 GMT -5
IDK how much first-day airplay this got on pop; it didn't make the Spincrease list, and the starters list can only account for 5 spins (there could be single spins that are unaccounted for). It did get a strong first day at Hot AC though. HOT AC:-- 31 P!NK Walk Me Home 542 0 542 4.942 3 spins from The End Sacramento, 2 spins from Alice Reno, and then perhaps single spins from a few stations. So - not much on pop at all.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 21, 2019 9:31:00 GMT -5
This sounds like it could be a fun. song I like that she took some production chances here, but not sure if it is enough to make this a hit.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Feb 21, 2019 9:46:25 GMT -5
This sounds like an American Idol winner debut single song so that basically sums it up for me.
Note that I looooved WAU and BT.
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Post by mediabase on Feb 21, 2019 17:15:46 GMT -5
POP radio is not playing this. Only HOT AC. What is RCA's strategy?
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Post by Choco on Feb 21, 2019 17:29:08 GMT -5
POP radio is not playing this. Only HOT AC. What is RCA's strategy? Sell a few hundred thousand copies of the album, promote a couple singles to HAC and collect the touring revenue. She's moving into legacy act territory. I think Pop will eventually at least take this to top 30 though.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 21, 2019 17:37:03 GMT -5
POP radio is not playing this. Only HOT AC. What is RCA's strategy? Sell a few hundred thousand copies of the album, promote a couple singles to HAC and collect the touring revenue. She's moving into legacy act territory. I think Pop will eventually at least take this to top 30 though. Yup. This was clearly the strategy for Beautiful Trauma too and it worked. One of the top selling albums of the year, a highly successful tour, any and all money spent on her was returned with plenty of revenue. The only difference there was that "What About Us" was pushed harder on pop at the beginning than this is, but I don't think that's going to hinder this any. Even if this got a strong push at pop right now, I doubt it would go much father than Kelly Clarkson's "Love So Soft," for example. But this will for sure smash HAC and AC.
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Post by g8erboi on Feb 21, 2019 21:08:43 GMT -5
I love P!nk and really enjoyed her last album but I’m really not feeling this. Usually songs grow on me after like five listens but I am actually getting more annoyed with each listen lmao.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Feb 21, 2019 21:17:09 GMT -5
On first listen this sounded a bit... generic? I like the melody though, which probably means it'll grow more on me with more listens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 10:09:15 GMT -5
Is POP still refusing to play this?
Im guessing her comment about ageism on radio, pissed them off?!
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Feb 22, 2019 10:17:21 GMT -5
#1 on US Itunes.
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Post by NeRD on Feb 22, 2019 10:22:44 GMT -5
I would say that P!nk is in a better place at pop radio than many of her peers (Kelly C, Xtina) but I think it's been clear since after TTAL that focus has shifted primarily to HAC which makes perfect sense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 10:33:31 GMT -5
I would say that P!nk is in a better place at pop radio than many of her peers (Kelly C, Xtina) but I think it's been clear since after TTAL that focus has shifted primarily to HAC which makes perfect sense. Shes really not though if theyre not playing her music. They supported Just Like Fire, What About Us, Beautiful Trauma stalled, and then bam, it all ended. It does make sense to shift to HAC when POP stops playing you after a certain age, so at least shes successful there and getting supported, but itd be nice if she got some play on CHR since shes still selling well. Im just honestly curious if theyre not playing it at all, or if its getting some play. #1 on Canadian iTunes as well. Anyone know where I can get iTunes stats for other countries? I used to have a link but I dont have it on my new PC.
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Post by pnobelysk on Feb 22, 2019 12:03:32 GMT -5
^^ pink is in a much better place than Kelly and xtina on pop radio. Her last era had a top 10 on the format and a top 25 follow up.
Xtinas last album didn’t get pop support
And Kelly’s first single scrapped the top 20 era.
Pinks 3rd single wasn’t send to pop, so it shouldn’t be expected that anything else from the era would do anything on the format. Top 20 for a pink lead single on pop isn’t out of the question right now, just need to see how this song connects.
What about us sold 660k+ which is huge compared to her peers recent efforts.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 12:16:05 GMT -5
Whatever You Want wasn’t sent cause they crapped the bed on Beautiful Trauma and they didn’t want another flop.
And if she isn’t getting much play for her singles, it’s not “is” in a good place, but “was” in a good place. They’re not giving this any early spins, which isn’t a good sign since it’s a first single from a new album for a big artist.
Xtina IMO didn’t release anything that deserved radio play, and was out of the game for far too long. Kelly did though. I think P!NK has been selling more than her peers for a long time...that’s why it was nice that CHR kept her songs going. I’m hoping for the bestie CHR, just not looking great thus far.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 22, 2019 13:01:34 GMT -5
#1 on iTunes
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Post by divasummer on Feb 22, 2019 13:54:43 GMT -5
Wasn't the majority of Pinks sales due to her ticket redemption??? I'm not downing that practice just wondering?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 14:03:49 GMT -5
Wasn't the majority of Pinks sales due to her ticket redemption??? I'm not downing that practice just wondering? From Billboard: Of Beautiful Trauma's overall unit start, 10,000 were in TEA units, while 13,000 were in SEA units. The set was overwhelmingly powered by traditional album sales: 384,000. Of that sum, 101,000 were digital albums, while 283,000 were physical CDs. (It sold another 1,000 on vinyl LP.) Nielsen Music does not break out specifically how much of any album's sales are generated by concert ticket/album bundle offers. However, CD sales from ticket bundles are categorized as Internet sales by the company, and Beautiful Trauma's Internet sales figure was 249,000. So, one can assume most of that number is from the ticket bundle -- minus a smallish amount (perhaps in the low five-figures) for traditional sales from Amazon and other web-based retailers. That said, she would have debuted at #1 regardless. When I said selling, I meant singles and albums. If you look back at her sales, before ticket bundles, she did better than most of her peers.
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Post by NeRD on Feb 22, 2019 14:05:48 GMT -5
I would say that P!nk is in a better place at pop radio than many of her peers (Kelly C, Xtina) but I think it's been clear since after TTAL that focus has shifted primarily to HAC which makes perfect sense. Shes really not though if theyre not playing her music. They supported Just Like Fire, What About Us, Beautiful Trauma stalled, and then bam, it all ended. It does make sense to shift to HAC when POP stops playing you after a certain age, so at least shes successful there and getting supported, but itd be nice if she got some play on CHR since shes still selling well. Im just honestly curious if theyre not playing it at all, or if its getting some play. #1 on Canadian iTunes as well. Anyone know where I can get iTunes stats for other countries? I used to have a link but I dont have it on my new PC. Wasn't Beautiful Trauma her last single which didn't do so hot on HAC either? Then before that, What About Us? Again, I would say she's in a much better spot on Pop radio than her peers.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Feb 22, 2019 14:06:54 GMT -5
Wasn't the majority of Pinks sales due to her ticket redemption??? I'm not downing that practice just wondering? First week, 249k were from bundles but the album is now at 960k or something. Even with the bundle, she's still one of the biggest current album sellers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 14:07:22 GMT -5
Shes really not though if theyre not playing her music. They supported Just Like Fire, What About Us, Beautiful Trauma stalled, and then bam, it all ended. It does make sense to shift to HAC when POP stops playing you after a certain age, so at least shes successful there and getting supported, but itd be nice if she got some play on CHR since shes still selling well. Im just honestly curious if theyre not playing it at all, or if its getting some play. #1 on Canadian iTunes as well. Anyone know where I can get iTunes stats for other countries? I used to have a link but I dont have it on my new PC. Wasn't Beautiful Trauma her last single which didn't do so hot on HAC either? Then before that, What About Us? Again, I would say she's in a much better spot on Pop radio than her peers. no, her last single was Whatever You Want on Hot Ac (peak #14 from what I’ve found), Beautiful Trauma peaked @ #4 and since then A Million Dreams which is #11.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 14:08:22 GMT -5
Wasn't the majority of Pinks sales due to her ticket redemption??? I'm not downing that practice just wondering? First week, 249k were from bundles but the album is now at 960k or something. Even with the bundle, she's still one of the biggest current album sellers. No, it wasn’t all bundle. Read the article above. Also there was a second bundle. Take all the bundles away, she’d probably be gold.
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Post by divasummer on Feb 22, 2019 14:13:16 GMT -5
Shes really not though if theyre not playing her music. They supported Just Like Fire, What About Us, Beautiful Trauma stalled, and then bam, it all ended. It does make sense to shift to HAC when POP stops playing you after a certain age, so at least shes successful there and getting supported, but itd be nice if she got some play on CHR since shes still selling well. Im just honestly curious if theyre not playing it at all, or if its getting some play. #1 on Canadian iTunes as well. Anyone know where I can get iTunes stats for other countries? I used to have a link but I dont have it on my new PC. Wasn't Beautiful Trauma her last single which didn't do so hot on HAC either? Then before that, What About Us? Again, I would say she's in a much better spot on Pop radio than her peers. I believe she released "Secrets" from the cd that didn't make a lot of noise. I'm not sure if 2nd single "Revenge" with Eminem was officially released or cancelled as well.
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