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Post by Mayman on Apr 9, 2019 9:37:12 GMT -5
One hit wonder is when one person/act has one hit. It's self explanatory. Is it? What is a "hit" then? Above #25? #40? placing on the year end chart? If #25 then why not #26? If #40 then why not #41? The cutoff is arbitrary and depends on who is making the cutoff, so it is best to ask first. I was jut waiting on you to tell me my opinion was wrong. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 9:40:24 GMT -5
Is it? What is a "hit" then? Above #25? #40? placing on the year end chart? If #25 then why not #26? If #40 then why not #41? The cutoff is arbitrary and depends on who is making the cutoff, so it is best to ask first. I was jut waiting on you to tell me my opinion was wrong. Ugh! - No reason for that. I will just assume then that you have no idea. Thanks |
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Post by Mayman on Apr 9, 2019 9:41:52 GMT -5
I was jut waiting on you to tell me my opinion was wrong. Ugh! - No reason for that. I will just assume then that you have no idea. Thanks I have no idea what a one hint wonder is because I'm not telling you what qualifies as a hit. Makes sense. Thanks |
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Post by lazer on Apr 9, 2019 9:42:05 GMT -5
Here is a good definition from Wikipedia:
"One hit wonder is any entity that achieves mainstream popularity, often for only one piece of work, and becomes known among the general public solely for that momentary success."
It's that simple. The most famous example of a one hit wonder is Los Del Rio, also known as the guys who sang Macarena. The public only knows them because of one song. If an artist is only popular because of one song and that one song completely overshadows the rest of their discography, then they are considered One-hit wonders.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 9, 2019 9:43:31 GMT -5
Here is a good definition from Wikipedia: "One hit wonder is any entity that achieves mainstream popularity, often for only one piece of work, and becomes known among the general public solely for that momentary success." It's that simple. The most famous example of a one hit wonder is Los Del Rio, also known as the guys who sang Macarena. The public only knows them because of one song. If an artist is only popular because of one song and that one song completely overshadows the rest of their discography, then they are considered One-hit wonders. Exactly. No need to look through peaks and statistics to determine if someone is a one hit wonder. It doesn't have to be that hard. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 9:45:15 GMT -5
Ugh! - No reason for that. I will just assume then that you have no idea. Thanks I have no idea what a one hint wonder is because I'm not telling you what qualifies as a hit. Makes sense. Thanks Then don't respond to my posts. No reason to clutter up this thread with this garbage. everyone has a different idea as to what a one hit wonder is. The topic came up, I was curious as to the context. |
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Post by Mayman on Apr 9, 2019 9:47:15 GMT -5
I have no idea what a one hint wonder is because I'm not telling you what qualifies as a hit. Makes sense. Thanks Then don't respond to my posts. No reason to clutter up this thread with this garbage. everyone has a different idea as to what a one hit wonder is. The topic came up, I was curious as to the context. You asked for my opinion on it and I gave it to you. You then questioned my opinion and tried to change it. Let's not call my posts clutter and garbage when you've been doing the same thing. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 9:55:25 GMT -5
Then don't respond to my posts. No reason to clutter up this thread with this garbage. everyone has a different idea as to what a one hit wonder is. The topic came up, I was curious as to the context. You asked for my opinion on it and I gave it to you. You then questioned my opinion and tried to change it. Let's not call my posts clutter and garbage when you've been doing the same thing. maybe I should be more clear In the context on referring to Billy Ray Cyrus as a one hit wonder as it came up one page ago (maybe two now) What definition are we using? Hopefully that helps. |
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Post by narp on Apr 9, 2019 9:55:54 GMT -5
Mayman’s killing it with the good reads this week.
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 9, 2019 9:57:51 GMT -5
I was jut waiting on you to tell me my opinion was wrong. Ugh! - No reason for that. I will just assume then that you have no idea. Thanks Stop acting childish. You're how old? Come on now. You're both saying the "one hit wonder" term is decided on by the person making that distinction. Mayman is making the same damn point as you and you want to argue with him because...? Just stop. |
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Post by wavey. on Apr 9, 2019 10:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 9, 2019 10:44:50 GMT -5
For OTR's remix, I foresee two possible scenarios for the Hot 100:
1) similar to Despacito's and Mi Gente's remix, the remix would remain as the Hot 100 version during the remainder of the chart run after the change
2) similar to Perfect's remix, the remix will be credited for a few weeks after which the credit will revert to the original version of the song.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 10:46:44 GMT -5
I suck with numbers, any estimations how bad guy will do this week?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 10:55:18 GMT -5
I return from a month of mostly holidays and all I see is just some petty fighting bulls**t? Stop with this childish fighting, since I was at futhead.com which is basically 95% children under the age of 12 who glorify 6ix9ine and XXXTENTACION but mass hate on other criminals (any non-rapper criminal), complain to EA about bulls**t that EA does, and despise article 13 (that's good at least). Please don't ty to become them. The level of cattiness is shocking. I was hoping for civility when I first joined the site, but the constant fighting and nipping at each other is ridiculous. You're in the wrong sections. Chart Discussion is (mostly) a mess. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 9, 2019 10:59:31 GMT -5
Ugh! - No reason for that. I will just assume then that you have no idea. Thanks I have no idea what a one hint wonder is because I'm not telling you what qualifies as a hit. Makes sense. Thanks I think his point isn’t to tell you you’re wrong but that there is no right answer. It is opinion based but then that leaves it up to a lot of endless discussion/arguing where one person’s definition of a one-hit-wonder isn’t someone else’s, so that inevitably leads to an example that defies the definition of both people. Or see the post with the Wikipedia definition, which I didn’t get to until this  but honestly is probably one of the better definitions of one-hit-wonder I’ve seen posted on here. Can we copy/paste that somewhere prominent so it’s easily accessible the next time this comes up in conversation? |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 9, 2019 11:03:41 GMT -5
I suck with numbers, any estimations how bad guy will do this week? I don't but going by feel, it seems to have held up relatively well in Spotify, a little bit less so in Apple Music, not as well in YouTube and lost quite a bit in iTunes. Still not on radio, it seems. I guess that means, it will probably drop out of the top 10 of the Hot 100, but probably can hang onto the top 20 (maybe even top 15). |
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 11:05:16 GMT -5
I have no idea what a one hint wonder is because I'm not telling you what qualifies as a hit. Makes sense. Thanks I think his point isn’t to tell you you’re wrong but that there is no right answer. It is opinion based but then that leaves it up to a lot of endless discussion/arguing where one person’s definition of a one-hit-wonder isn’t someone else’s, so that inevitably leads to an example that defies the definition of both people. My apologies to this thread for dragging it down. I was referring to this post below and the ensuing followup as to my question and probably should have been more clear Everyone enjoy, this is the last week we can call Billy Ray Cyrus a 1 hit wonder. For the reasons pointed out in what I quoted above from Tose Ryland, just wanted to know the context. As mentioned there is no right answer. |
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Post by korbel16 on Apr 9, 2019 11:25:10 GMT -5
For OTR's remix, I foresee two possible scenarios for the Hot 100: 1) similar to Despacito's and Mi Gente's remix, the remix would remain as the Hot 100 version during the remainder of the chart run after the change 2) similar to Perfect's remix, the remix will be credited for a few weeks after which the credit will revert to the original version of the song. those are the only two scenarios ... |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2019 11:26:37 GMT -5
Billy Ray Cyrus is NOT one hit wonder by any means. He has had 10 Hot 100 hits even before Old Town Road and two top 3 albums. Achy Breaky Heart is just his signature song.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Apr 9, 2019 11:49:39 GMT -5
Billy Ray Cyrus is NOT one hit wonder by any means. He has had 10 Hot 100 hits even before Old Town Road and two top 3 albums. Achy Breaky Heart is just his signature song. Isn't he like one of the most widely-cited cases of a one-hit wonder in music? I can see why people would consider him one considering he really only had one really huge hit (that is, you know, until now). That said, I can also see why some people wouldn't consider him a one-hit wonder. He had another Top 40 hit (though not THAT big of a hit) on the Billboard Hot 100 with Miley Cyrus in 2008, plus he had plenty of hits on the country chart, so as far as that chart is concerned, he's really not a one-hit wonder. Another big thing that adds to the argument that he's not a one-hit wonder is the fact that his debut album Some Gave All sold 9 million copies and is the best-selling album of 1992. |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 9, 2019 12:11:05 GMT -5
If we think about worldwide impact in pop music, ABR is definitely his only remarkable effort and as such he can be considered as one hit wonder. But not from the US charts perspective which is more important definition here on this board.
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Post by badrobot on Apr 9, 2019 12:11:23 GMT -5
More interesting to me is that, at age 57, Billy Ray Cyrus would be the oldest person to have a #1 song since Louis Armstrong in 1964 (when he was 62), I think?
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 12:20:30 GMT -5
Then if they credit the remix as the primary listing
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:21:22 GMT -5
Wanz from Thrift Shop was 51 when the song went #1.
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Post by Mauricio on Apr 9, 2019 12:23:35 GMT -5
I can't. Old town road has yet to have an official video. Lil Nas X says he wants many people on it.
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Post by Gary on Apr 9, 2019 12:24:17 GMT -5
Carlos Santana and Cher were 52 but other than Louis Armstrong, can't think of anyone older than 55
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Post by renaboss on Apr 9, 2019 12:40:03 GMT -5
I brought up the fact that Billy Ray might go #1 next week to a friend this afternoon and he said, "Oh good, then he won't be a one-hit-wonder anymore". And this is not someone who follows the charts and knows about rankings and statistics like we do. So yeah, a one-hit-wonder is perceived as someone who had one big song everyone knows, and that's it. Hanson had a second top 10 hit, but they're considered one hit wonders for "MMMBop". I'm not caught up on the new thing everyone is getting bitchy about, but I can just imagine that whomever opposed to the definition of one-hit-wonder was probably just being petty or pretentious about it. We all know what it means, come on.
Signature song, however, is not the same. "Achy Breaky Heart" is not Billy Ray's signature song - if you can't name any other song from an artist, it's probably cos they're a one-hit-wonder. I'm a chart buff and don't know any other Billy Ray songs myself without looking them up, so there. Cue the comments about how my own perception of one thing doesn't make it the general definition.
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Post by ddlz on Apr 9, 2019 12:47:56 GMT -5
Spotify Monday update
1. Old Town Road - Remix 3,113,535
3. Old Town Road - 1,912,369
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Post by korbel16 on Apr 9, 2019 12:49:15 GMT -5
Another 5M U.S update yassss
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Post by Future Captain on Apr 9, 2019 12:49:42 GMT -5
Phew, to think that Billy Ray Cyrus is going to get a #1 in 2019. If somebody suggest that will happen just a month ago people will think they're crazy.
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