Kelly Clarkson - 'Thankful' Rankdown (Revealing)

[Caviar]

I don't remember this song.

[born]

We continue with #8. A 25 point leap from #9 and the third highest SD of the game! Another #1 is going out.

[born]

8. You Thought Wrong

(written by Kelly Clarkson, Tamyra Gray, Kenneth Edmonds, Harvey Mason, Jr., Damon Thomas)

Points: 184

SD: 3,32 (3rd highest)

#1 jessayli

#3 Cody Wants Out...

#3 kmbgs

#3 Az Paynter

#3 Focus

#3 dbhmr

#4 ampersand

#4 Kanenrá:ke

#5 alexcuse

#5 BlueShades874

#5 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾

#6 castleoblivion26

#6 †ealsünset

#6 born

#6 Caviar

#7 ClevelandRox

#8 @tweety

#9 Troublemaker

#10 toomuchboy

#10 samo🦕

#10 keeptheflowers

#10 SHOOTER

#11 George

#11 musicfan134

#11 .indulgecountry

#12 someguy

#12 @antigonerising

[born]

HIGHEST SD OF THE GAME COMING THROUGH! Four #1s and seven bottom 3s are about to leave us!

The last song to miss the top half. Any guesses?

[born]

7. Anytime

(written by Louis Biancaniello & Sam Watters)

Points: 171

SD: 3,67 (HIGHEST)

#1 kmbgs  

#1 Az Paynter  

#1 ClevelandRox  

#1 samo🦕  

#2 †ealsünset  

#2 @tweety  

#3 BlueShades874  

#4 George  

#5 dbhmr  

#5 ampersand  

#5 toomuchboy  

#5 .indulgecountry  

#5 @antigonerising  

#6 Cody Wants Out...  

#7 castleoblivion26  

#7 born  

#8 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾  

#8 musicfan134  

#9 Focus  

#9 keeptheflowers  

#10 jessayli  

#11 Kanenrá:ke  

#11 alexcuse  

#11 Caviar  

#11 Troublemaker  

#11 someguy  

#12 SHOOTER  

[born]

Jun 4, 2019 18:11:58 GMT -5 born said:

I guess that's all for tonight! Hopefully we'll have a bigger audience tomorrow lol! Thank you

If you think I should shut the fuck up just like this post lol

[†ealsünset]

Jun 5, 2019 17:15:22 GMT -5 born said:

7. Anytime

Was this the only one with all ranks 1-12?

[jessayli]

I knew my #1 - You Thought Wrong - was at risk of ending up in the bottom half. Underrated song. 😢

[dbhmr]

I’m so baffled by this ranking lol. I expected both of those to be in the top five tbh.

The garbage version of BD should have long been out by now.

[kmbgs]

This rankdown is cancelled omg

[musicfan134]

I am surprised BD is still in.

What I'm realizing about this album is that it really hasn't aged well imo. Only 1-2 songs really still sound good. Even the studio version of MI, in my opinion, hasn't aged well especially when compared to her live versions of it.

[tinawina]

When I tried to rank this album (I admit I was rushing because I waited last minute), so many of the songs were hard to rank for me because they were kind of all around the same level of meh. I had forgotten how much filler is on this album. Eventually I gave up.

I think when that happens its hard to get a consensus around what's actually better. So you get a rankdown like this that seems random. LOL

[ClevelandRox]

YOU KNOW ANYTIIIIIIIME :'(

[ampersand]

Glad my #1 is still in the race. I’ve never seen it mentioned by any other Kelly fans on this board or IRL lol.

As for BD, I had such a hard time ranking it because the lyrics are still so stunning to me (I’m a sucker for alliteration) despite the noisey, soulless, utterly baffling production. I think I threw it somewhere in the middle of my list.

[SHOOTER]

Jun 5, 2019 19:40:20 GMT -5 musicfan134 said:

I am surprised BD is still in.

What I'm realizing about this album is that it really hasn't aged well imo. Only 1-2 songs really still sound good. Even the studio version of MI, in my opinion, hasn't aged well especially when compared to her live versions of it.

That was definitely the same issue I had when I revisited the album and it reminded me why I don’t.

[Deleted]

You Thought Wrong aged like buttermilk. This stood out to me over the other songs, I think, because most of the rest of the album was already in filler territory upon release; is it really "aging badly" if I think What's Up Lonely sounds as corny now as it did back then? But YTW legitimately was single material in 2003, so to listen to it now and find myself thinking 'man, I'm so glad she doesn't have to be stuck singing this for the rest of her life' was a bit startling.

I agree with musicfan134 that as a whole the production is what does this entire album in.

[jessayli]

I guess I see the argument that You Thought Wrong hasn’t aged well. Still, when I went back to listen to the entire album, it was one of the few songs that stood out to me as interesting, energetic, and fun. It has attitude and personality, and was maybe the only song on the album I chose to repeat once or twice.

Miss Independent is not one of my favorite KC singles, so I was surprised by how much I liked it relative to the rest of the album. I agree that most of the songs fall into this pleasant/meh/MOR category and bleed together, making them difficult to rank. While both Thankful and What’s Up Lonely fall into this group, I find them both at least a little more authentic than most of the others.

And Before Your Love is easily the worst of them. It deserved lower than a #9 placement.

[born]

Jun 5, 2019 18:11:09 GMT -5 †ealsünset said:

Was this the only one with all ranks 1-12?

Oops I meant to write that but I forgot. Yep, "Anytime" was the only one ranked in every possible position!

[born]

Anyone around for some reveals?

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{Participants}@antigonerising
@tweety
Kanenrá:ke
ClevelandRox
🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾
musicfan134
Caviar
Focus
kmbgs
someguy
George
dbhmr
jessayli
keeptheflowers
toomuchboy
samo🦕
alexcuse
ampersand
castleoblivion26
†ealsünset
Az Paynter
Troublemaker
BlueShades874
.indulgecountry
Cody Wants Out...
SHOOTER

[Caviar]

Let's go

[born]

The second highest SD of the game is next! We'll see three #1s going out as well as two #12s.

[born]

6. Beautiful Disaster

(written by Rebekah Jordan & Matthew Wilder)

Points: 161

SD: 3,63 (2nd highest)

#1 BlueShades874  

#1 George  

#1 Troublemaker  

#2 someguy  

#3 toomuchboy  

#3 .indulgecountry  

#3 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾  

#3 Caviar  

#4 castleoblivion26  

#4 born  

#4 Focus  

#5 ClevelandRox  

#5 samo🦕  

#5 Kanenrá:ke  

#7 ampersand  

#7 jessayli  

#9 kmbgs  

#9 †ealsünset  

#9 @antigonerising  

#9 Cody Wants Out...  

#9 musicfan134  

#9 SHOOTER  

#11 @tweety  

#11 dbhmr  

#11 keeptheflowers  

#12 Az Paynter  

#12 alexcuse  

Random fact: Only six of the rankings are even numbers! This song shined through the odds! Also, no perfect rankings! lol

[born]

Three more #1s and two #12s are about to hit the pike. Are you ready for #5?

[born]

5. Low

(written by Jimmy Harry)

Points: 164

SD: 3,31 (4th highest)

#1 someguy  

#1 castleoblivion26  

#1 ampersand  

#2 born  

#2 musicfan134  

#3 @antigonerising  

#3 SHOOTER  

#4 ClevelandRox  

#4 dbhmr  

#4 Az Paynter  

#5 †ealsünset  

#5 Cody Wants Out...  

#6 BlueShades874  

#6 kmbgs  

#7 George  

#7 Troublemaker  

#8 .indulgecountry  

#8 Focus  

#8 alexcuse  

#9 toomuchboy  

#9 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾  

#9 Kanenrá:ke  

#9 jessayli  

#9 @tweety  

#10 Caviar  

#12 samo🦕  

#12 keeptheflowers  

Fun fact: ...and that clears out the #12s for this game. Positivity!

[born]

Which is the last song to miss the top 3? Two #1s and 4 points away from #3!

[born]

4. The Trouble With Love Is

(written by Kelly Clarkson, Evan Rogers & Carl Sturken)

Points: 157

SD: 2,71 (4th lowest)

#1 SHOOTER  

#1 alexcuse  

#2 Troublemaker  

#3 jessayli  

#3 @tweety  

#3 keeptheflowers  

#4 .indulgecountry  

#4 toomuchboy  

#4 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾  

#5 born  

#5 musicfan134  

#5 Az Paynter  

#6 someguy  

#6 ampersand  

#6 dbhmr  

#6 samo🦕  

#7 kmbgs  

#7 Focus  

#7 Kanenrá:ke  

#8 @antigonerising  

#8 †ealsünset  

#8 George  

#8 Caviar  

#9 ClevelandRox  

#10 Cody Wants Out...  

#10 BlueShades874  

#11 castleoblivion26  

Fun fact: This is #4 on both the final ranking and the lowest SDs list. Also, the top 3 lowest SDs of the game go to... the top 3 songs overall!

[Caviar]

I used to jam to "Low" but it burned on me fast. Now I can't stand it.

[SHOOTER]

Low is still that bitch y'all slept on!

[Deleted]

I don't know if the #6 here was overcompensation for Beautiful Disaster's (undeserved) poor showing in the Breakaway rankdown or if this first album is just that uniformly eh. The live version > > > but this first take on it is not it. Overproduced and underbaked at the same time. It is lyrically solid, though.

I've always wondered what the full story is behind its re-use. I know Kelly said that during recording for Thankful she told the label she thought it would sound better stripped down. But it's not normal for a song to be re-done on a subsequent album, even for filler purposes, if it wasn't a hit or huge fan favorite the first time around. It was neither of those things, nor was it a song she penned herself. It's just a very unusual choice for anyone involved to be so invested in - other than the BD writers, of course. They got paid twice over. I almost wonder if the label was being insistent about something and agreeing to a live take was the compromise. IDK.

I'm kind of opposite of Caviar with Low - it was kind of just there for me in the beginning, but it's grown on me some over the years.

[musicfan134]

Just Missed the Train for the win please.