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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 22:19:46 GMT -5
Radio while important isn’t the end game anymore.
Cole Swindell & Kacey Musgraves have each released 3 studio albums. Cole has had 5 #1’s and 9 top 10 singles at country radio. Kacey has had 0 # 1’s and only 1 top 10.
Is anybody gonna honestly make an argument that Cole is a bigger star at the moment? No chance and it’s not even close.
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Post by Naos on Sept 9, 2019 18:35:26 GMT -5
Hot 100: #66 (+10)
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 10, 2019 13:23:35 GMT -5
It's back up to #13 on Country Songs, 1 spot shy of its peak. I'd love to see this sneak out a top 10 peak there.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 11, 2019 15:10:14 GMT -5
Ready for this song to peak & fall so we can move on to one of the stronger CP tracks.
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Post by Troublemaker on Sept 11, 2019 17:01:55 GMT -5
Ready for this song to peak & fall so we can move on to one of the stronger CP tracks. From your lips to God’s ears
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Post by Sugar Rush on Sept 13, 2019 10:40:15 GMT -5
Her team is a mess.. 'Southbound' is about to drop to #6 because Runaway June is max spinning to get 'Buy My Own Drinks' a top-five peak. 'Southbound' could have gone #1 but they actively slowed it down for other songs too much. Why are they so afraid of letting her go #1 and allowing the song to climb on its own, even if that means other songs will stop?
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Sept 13, 2019 11:16:58 GMT -5
Her team is a mess.. 'Southbound' is about to drop to #6 because Runaway June is max spinning to get 'Buy My Own Drinks' a top-five peak. 'Southbound' could have gone #1 but they actively slowed it down for other songs too much. Why are they so afraid of letting her go #1 and allowing the song to climb on its own, even if that means other songs will stop? It's for one week at most, BMOD will probably fall starting next week ultimately changing nothing in regards to Carrie's chart run. That is unless you think she's also peaking this week?
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Post by Sugar Rush on Sept 13, 2019 11:34:32 GMT -5
Her team is a mess.. 'Southbound' is about to drop to #6 because Runaway June is max spinning to get 'Buy My Own Drinks' a top-five peak. 'Southbound' could have gone #1 but they actively slowed it down for other songs too much. Why are they so afraid of letting her go #1 and allowing the song to climb on its own, even if that means other songs will stop? It's for one week at most, BMOD will probably fall starting next week ultimately changing nothing in regards to Carrie's chart run. That is unless you think she's also peaking this week? From the daily updates, she's almost dropping too fast now for their 'max spin week' to push her to #1 - unless she has truly tremendous gains. The problem is she isn't staying afloat in preparation for the max spin week for a #1 push, if anything it'll be a push for perhaps a #3/#2 peak at the rate her radio patterns have been.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Sept 13, 2019 16:17:16 GMT -5
It's for one week at most, BMOD will probably fall starting next week ultimately changing nothing in regards to Carrie's chart run. That is unless you think she's also peaking this week? From the daily updates, she's almost dropping too fast now for their 'max spin week' to push her to #1 - unless she has truly tremendous gains. The problem is she isn't staying afloat in preparation for the max spin week for a #1 push, if anything it'll be a push for perhaps a #3/#2 peak at the rate her radio patterns have been. She's not dropping though unless I'm missing something?
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Post by Sugar Rush on Sept 13, 2019 17:06:55 GMT -5
From the daily updates, she's almost dropping too fast now for their 'max spin week' to push her to #1 - unless she has truly tremendous gains. The problem is she isn't staying afloat in preparation for the max spin week for a #1 push, if anything it'll be a push for perhaps a #3/#2 peak at the rate her radio patterns have been. She's not dropping though unless I'm missing something? Eh, if you’ve looked at her last 4-5 days she’s either lost spins or just barely had an increase. She’s not getting any decent gains.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Sept 13, 2019 19:00:26 GMT -5
We've seen far more struggling songs get a resurgence and get to #1 so I'm not really worried for Southbound just yet? I do find them actually slowing down a fire single from her after the first two underperformers completely ridiculous though.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Sept 13, 2019 21:06:34 GMT -5
This is getting good. A three-way, all-out corporate war coming between Carrie/Universal, Cole/Warner, and Matt/Sony. Grab the popcorn, pick a side and place your bets, folks! This is gonna be fun! Lots of corporate cash is about to start flying in the next few weeks! Cat fight!
Remember: You don’t have the option to remain neutral when three giant corporations that control virtually everything in your life are duking it out! Not picking a side IS picking a side!!
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Post by rsmatto on Sept 13, 2019 23:19:04 GMT -5
This is getting good. A three-way, all-out corporate war coming between Carrie/Universal, Cole/Warner, and Matt/Sony. Grab the popcorn, pick a side and place your bets, folks! This is gonna be fun! Lots of corporate cash is about to start flying in the next few weeks! Cat fight! Remember: You don’t have the option to remain neutral when three giant corporations that control virtually everything in your life are duking it out! Not picking a side IS picking a side!! They’ll all get to #1.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Sept 16, 2019 13:10:04 GMT -5
Yeah, unfortunately that's the way it is these days, lol. Even if one song doesn't end up making it all the way to the top, it won't really be because it was any less of a hit than its competitors. It'll just be about timing and how high the threshold is for a #1 the week the song gets pushed.
Interesting similarity between Carrie and Cole, who are both going for #1 around the same time: Neither has had a #1 on the Billboard Country Airplay chart since 2016. Carrie's last was "Church Bells" in July and Cole's last was "Middle of a Memory" in November. It's amazing how some artists like them who seem like such consistent hit-makers could go such a long period of time without having a song go all the way to #1. Both are prone to really close misses, unfortunately.
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Post by malwaredie on Sept 17, 2019 15:41:27 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Southbound, but I don't see how Southbound doesn't make it to #1. There's a clear path forward with Living hitting #1 followed by I Don't Know About You afterwards. Once Living starts free-falling, a lot of his spins will go to Carrie. Carrie co-hosts CCUSA September 28-29, and it should be easy if the label has any idea what it's doing.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Sept 18, 2019 8:15:17 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Southbound, but I don't see how Southbound doesn't make it to #1. There's a clear path forward with Living hitting #1 followed by I Don't Know About You afterwards. Once Living starts free-falling, a lot of his spins will go to Carrie. Carrie co-hosts CCUSA September 28-29, and it should be easy if the label has any idea what it's doing. It should be easy, but now we have Cole Swindell right behind her and Matt Stell is surging, so the window of opportunity is lower. Once Dierks and Chris peak, Capitol needs to throw everything they got at Southbound, otherwise I feel that she may end up peaking at #2 or #3. I think a #1 would give her more momentum to release Drinking Alone as the 4th single and possibly one more single to close out the era. CP and LW really killed any radio momentum she had going.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 20, 2019 13:27:20 GMT -5
#1 in Canada!
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Post by malwaredie on Sept 20, 2019 13:51:42 GMT -5
Maybe this isn't a guaranteed #1 as I thought. Cole is really close, and his song might block Southbound from reaching #1.
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 20, 2019 13:55:45 GMT -5
Maybe this isn't a guaranteed #1 as I thought. Cole is really close, and his song might block Southbound from reaching #1. I hope Carrie Underwood does NOT peak at #2 here. If that's the case, she would be the female artist with the most #2s. I would move her from #9 to #5 on the list of those artists with the most #2 hits. She would have as many as Kenny Chesney (I Go Back, anyone?).
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 20, 2019 14:45:48 GMT -5
Whether this gets to #1 or not doesn’t change anything, still a sizable radio hit. Of course a #1 would be great for press and momentum, but at this point I’m ready for the next single - unless it’s not “Low” or “Drinking Alone”, then I just give up on whoever the hell is making these single decisions.
Still holding out hope for #1, but not holding my breath. So many great things going for Carrie right now to be worried about a heavily manipulated singles chart...
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Post by Wackadoodle on Sept 20, 2019 22:18:31 GMT -5
Maybe this isn't a guaranteed #1 as I thought. Cole is really close, and his song might block Southbound from reaching #1. Nah she’s fine. The big audience gains for Cole and Matt are due to Westwood One (Mediabase-only stations). She’ll easily get the #1. Cole is the one who should be worried about getting blocked by Matt. EDIT TO CORRECT SLIGHT MISTAKE: Cole got the big WW1 conversions but Matt's gains seem more authentic. Still, I don't think Matt'll be much of a problem for Carrie. He'll be about neck-and-neck with her this week on Billboard, may jump ahead next week, and then she'll be able to jump back ahead with a big push. She'll have the advantage of a low threshold for #1 the week she pushes. May only need 35 or 36 million to get a Billboard #1, when most #1s need at least 40 million. She's got this.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Sept 23, 2019 8:51:15 GMT -5
Hopefully Capitol has pulled the plug on Dierks, so they can focus their energy on getting this to #1. I don’t think a #1 is a slam dunk here, as Cole, Matt and now Chris Janson are all surging. Regardless, this song will still be a Top 3 peaking song, but I’d prefer a #1, as she has been without a #1 for more than 3 years now.
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Post by bigd79 on Sept 23, 2019 19:07:52 GMT -5
Word is via the Living thread UMG is pushing for 2 weeks, however Chris Lane is also maxing this week. We'll see how that goes, but it should hopefully clear things up for Carrie next week😎
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Post by Troublemaker on Sept 23, 2019 19:48:24 GMT -5
Officially top 5 on country airplay and almost top 10 on country songs. On a side note I hope this eventually streams enough to get her another RIAA certification. Hard to believe Dirty Laundry is her only officially released single not to be certified.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Sept 23, 2019 21:14:58 GMT -5
Word is via the Living thread UMG is pushing for 2 weeks, however Chris Lane is also maxing this week. We'll see how that goes, but it should hopefully clear things up for Carrie next week😎 If this is true, both should fall out of the way, setting up a Carrie/Cole/Matt showdown for #1. I think all 3 could get their week at #1, but in what order it remains to be seen. Finally an interesting chart race!
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Post by malwaredie on Sept 24, 2019 14:54:28 GMT -5
Anyone concerned with the latest update in which the song lost spins and AI even though Living is done?
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Sept 24, 2019 15:02:14 GMT -5
Anyone concerned with the latest update in which the song lost spins and AI even though Living is done? Chris Lane is going for max spins this week and gained a whopping 1.5 million AI yesterday alone. Those gains have to come from somewhere...
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Sept 25, 2019 6:58:43 GMT -5
Another crappy update this morning. Looks like Cole, Matt and Chris Janson are going to pass this. I don’t think a #1 peak is necessarily in the cards. Just irritates me that they decided to go for a 2nd week for Dierks rather than putting that extra support behind Carrie. If their tactic is to let everyone else peak first, then I don’t think this will make it. That’s at least another 4 weeks minimum before Carrie gets her shot at #1. Just disappointing overall.
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Post by carriekins on Sept 25, 2019 6:59:28 GMT -5
Another crappy update this morning. Looks like Cole, Matt and Chris Janson are going to pass this. I don’t think a #1 peak is necessarily in the cards. Just irritates me that they decided to go for a 2nd week for Dierks rather than putting that extra support behind Carrie. If their tactic is to let everyone else peak first, then I don’t think this will make it. That’s at least another 4 weeks minimum before Carrie gets her shot at #1. Just disappointing overall. They aren't going for a second week for Dierks.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Sept 25, 2019 7:00:18 GMT -5
Another crappy update this morning. Looks like Cole, Matt and Chris Janson are going to pass this. I don’t think a #1 peak is necessarily in the cards. Just irritates me that they decided to go for a 2nd week for Dierks rather than putting that extra support behind Carrie. If their tactic is to let everyone else peak first, then I don’t think this will make it. That’s at least another 4 weeks minimum before Carrie gets her shot at #1. Just disappointing overall. They aren't going for a second week for Dierks. Then shouldn’t he be negative in spins by now?
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