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Post by iHype. on May 6, 2019 14:20:26 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/business/8510285/billboard-launch-global-100-chart-international-music-conference?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitterAs borders continue to break down across the international music landscape, Billboard will launch The Global 100 -- the first authoritative chart ranking top songs globally, based on worldwide streams and download sales. The Global 100 will make its debut later this year driven by a Nielsen platform with expanded global measurement tools, covering activity in more than 180 territories around the world. The chart's ranking will be based on a weighted formula incorporating streams on both subscription and ad-supported tiers of leading audio and video music services, plus download sales from top music retailers across the globe.
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Post by yuh yuh on May 6, 2019 14:21:30 GMT -5
Sounds like a cool idea.
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 14:33:09 GMT -5
So, it'll be the US's and Japan's charts with some of Europe's basically?
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Post by jodakyellow on May 6, 2019 14:34:11 GMT -5
So, it'll be the US's and Japan's charts with some of Europe's basically? "in more than 180 territories around the world" ... yes, the US and Japan consume more music than the rest of the world, but I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 14:36:37 GMT -5
So, it'll be the US's and Japan's charts with some of Europe's basically? "in more than 180 territories around the world" ... yes, the US and Japan consume more music than the rest of the world, but I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Yeah, I'm saying it'll just be mainly an amalgamation of the Hot 100 and Oricon.
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Post by Leo ✔ on May 6, 2019 14:36:48 GMT -5
a place where the latin tracks will be successful
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Post by Leo ✔ on May 6, 2019 14:37:24 GMT -5
"in more than 180 territories around the world" ... yes, the US and Japan consume more music than the rest of the world, but I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Yeah, I'm saying it'll just be mainly an amalgamation of the Hot 100 and Oricon. UK is pretty big in terms of consumption (and more important and relevant than Japan tbh)
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Post by woods on May 6, 2019 14:42:01 GMT -5
Cool idea. But tbh, what I'd be really curious to see are 50 state-wide charts for the US. Or even for every county.
Maybe that's going a little too far.
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 14:42:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm saying it'll just be mainly an amalgamation of the Hot 100 and Oricon. UK is pretty big in terms of consumption (and more important and relevant than Japan tbh) The UK market is smaller than Germany's, and Japan is the second biggest market in the world. They also tend to have massive sales, comparable to that of the United States, despite being 1/3rd of the population.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 14:44:30 GMT -5
Interesting.
Streaming is absolutely massive here atm so I'm sure this is gonna be fun to follow.
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Post by lazer on May 6, 2019 14:44:39 GMT -5
Cool idea. Now you'll get a glimpse on what is popular worldwide.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 6, 2019 14:45:44 GMT -5
Kpop coming to slay Billboard Global 100.
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Post by renaboss on May 6, 2019 14:49:52 GMT -5
I love this, but how will it all be weighted? Cos there's already a worldwide chart and the act with the most #1's (40+) is some Asian girl group that always debuts at #1 and then freefalls. I don't want that for this.
Also, I would much rather they did this for all the past decades. Oh well.
They wanna start later this year? Why not the very first week of 2020, to make it neat?
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 14:58:59 GMT -5
The UK market is smaller than Germany's, and Japan is the second biggest market in the world. They also tend to have massive sales, comparable to that of the United States, despite being 1/3rd of the population. And they're also very local. Don't Call Me Up being #20 in 50 countries would probably put it higher than something being #1 in Japan and N/A everywhere else. (Other than AKB48 for a week) www.mediatraffic.de/tracks.htmThis is more or less what I expect the new Global 100 to look like. The US Pop Songs chart with a few latin songs and KPop thrown in and occasional European EDM hits. Isn't Mediatraffic an incredibly unreliable source? The methodology and sourcing isn't exactly the best or known exactly.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on May 6, 2019 15:02:10 GMT -5
Cool idea. But tbh, what I'd be really curious to see are 50 state-wide charts for the US. Or even for every county. Maybe that's going a little too far. See I want that but it’d never take off It’d be sick to see local music in some areas chart, but billboard probably wouldn’t want success to be that easy or to give out so many number ones etc etc etc AT LEAST for states. I don’t think that’s crazy, I’d LOOOOOOOVE state charts SO MUCH
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Post by rimetm on May 6, 2019 15:04:09 GMT -5
So, it'll be the US's and Japan's charts with some of Europe's basically? Nope, Japan's not gonna be a big deal on the chart. The formula is stated to be using ad-suppoted streams and on-demand streams (from both video and audio services), and digital sales, no more, no less. This means Japan's physical market will not be represented, which is the source of the majority of its strength. You might get a "Lemon" or a "Marigold" on there thanks to their strength on YouTube and healthy digital sales presence, but even then, they'll be token appearances at best.
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 15:06:36 GMT -5
So, it'll be the US's and Japan's charts with some of Europe's basically? Nope, Japan's not gonna be a big deal on the chart. The formula is stated to be using ad-suppoted streams and on-demand streams (from both video and audio services), and digital sales, no more, no less. This means Japan's physical market will not be represented, which is the source of the majority of its strength. You might get a "Lemon" or a "Marigold" on there thanks to their strength on YouTube and healthy digital sales presence, but even then, they'll be token appearances at best. That's interesting how they're counting downloads, when downloads are down. When physical sales are still strong in Japan and South Korea. This is mainly going to be an entirely western show then, except for one-week K-pop wonders.
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Post by tanooki on May 6, 2019 15:10:20 GMT -5
Wow, this is gonna be really cool to see!
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 15:16:29 GMT -5
This does seem kind of pointless. Don't most western music charts just cross over into each other anyway?
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Post by velaxti on May 6, 2019 15:21:05 GMT -5
Nope, Japan's not gonna be a big deal on the chart. The formula is stated to be using ad-suppoted streams and on-demand streams (from both video and audio services), and digital sales, no more, no less. This means Japan's physical market will not be represented, which is the source of the majority of its strength. You might get a "Lemon" or a "Marigold" on there thanks to their strength on YouTube and healthy digital sales presence, but even then, they'll be token appearances at best. That's interesting how they're counting downloads, when downloads are down. When physical sales are still strong in Japan and South Korea. This is mainly going to be an entirely western show then, except for one-week K-pop wonders. It makes sense. Millions of shops all over the world selling CDs is very hard to track, but a couple dozen download sites on the Internet is a lot easier. Back in the days of physicals, some countries would only track a handful of stores and then extrapolate to estimate what the real sales would have been nationally based on demographics, etc. Well, even the AirPlay figures for the US that we all like to follow today are just estimates/extrapolations I believe. I think a sample of people have everything they listen to on the radio recorded and they try and estimate the national figures based off that.
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Post by Naos on May 6, 2019 15:23:09 GMT -5
Wait. This'll basically be the Canadian Hot 100. America's chart with some European hits. What it seems like anyway. Still interesting how Japan and China probably won't have any impact, despite being the #2 and #7 biggest music markets.
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Post by Sambalada on May 6, 2019 15:43:05 GMT -5
Why do you seemed so pressed? Just watch it turn out first.
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Post by Au$tin on May 6, 2019 16:17:01 GMT -5
I actually think this is a fantastic idea and can't wait for it to launch.
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Post by Leo ✔ on May 6, 2019 18:14:44 GMT -5
This does seem kind of pointless. Don't most western music charts just cross over into each other anyway? There is a big local markets on each country. Russian, Spanish, French, Italian, German, (insert any language you can think of) have their own niche in their countries and near off. Also we don't know how they will weight every country yet.
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Post by Juanca on May 6, 2019 18:19:38 GMT -5
I know it wasn’t that of a big thing, but I remember listening to The World Chart Show religiously for the few years that was broadcasted in one of our national radio stations. It was cool to hear some different songs and info on where they were popular. Even Madonna’s Amazing made it to the top 30 lol.
This is type of chart that I see could’ve raised further the popularity of hits like Dragostea din tei, Alors and danse, Balada, Vivir la vida, Ai Se Eu Te Pego, plus a lot of songs by Shakira. It’d be interesting to see the accumulated power of the Latino public :)
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Post by ✨ 𝑔𝓋 ✨ on May 7, 2019 4:13:30 GMT -5
I like this idea. I kinda want to see songs from my country gets featured in this Billboard Global 100 (Philippines has its own Billboard Hot 100, but sadly it's inactive since January last year)
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Post by Juanca on May 7, 2019 10:49:00 GMT -5
(Philippines has its own Billboard Hot 100, but sadly it's inactive since January last year) Perfectly imperfect, as Sarah Geronimo would say
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Post by spooky21 on May 7, 2019 10:54:39 GMT -5
Interesting idea and I'm very curious about the logic they are going to use. A sale in the US is not worth the same as a sale in, let's say Nigeria. I wonder if each country is going to get weighted as well? If not, American, UK and Japanese tracks will dominate for perpetuity based on pure volume alone.
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Post by jodakyellow on May 7, 2019 10:55:42 GMT -5
I actually think this is a fantastic idea and can't wait for it to launch. This is the healthy positivity I've come to expect and love from you. I agree, this is a really cool idea. Will it be perfect right out of the gate? Probably not, but it will be interesting content, and at that the end of the day, isn't that why we're all here? Because we find this stuff genuinely interesting?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 12:20:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm saying it'll just be mainly an amalgamation of the Hot 100 and Oricon. UK is pretty big in terms of consumption (and more important and relevant than Japan tbh) Declaring any particular country more "important" or "relevant" than another is kind of skating on problematic thin ice - it's a global chart, everyone is 'relevant' to some extent - and also somewhat contradicts your later post about other countries with big local markets. If the chart can potentially capture those countries' most popular songs, it should be able to do so with Japan too. I am highly interested in seeing how this turns out, but I also don't think there is anything wrong with someone calling it for what it is. This doesn't sound like it's going to be a 'global' 100 so much, but a 'western world' 100. The top of the chart will probably skew heavily toward English-language pop songs which is probably why some of y'all are so excited about it...but nvmd and the local markets will hit various ceilings near the bottom depending on their size. I am most curious as to how the 'everywhere but US' hits fare vs the 'nowhere else but the US' hits, just to see a) if the US market's brass-ring status is really all that deserved and b) if charting non-US hits eventually lead to US hit status due to the increased awareness.
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