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Post by eidde on Jan 5, 2020 21:00:07 GMT -5
Itβs interesting to note how much of a longevity MONSTER Shape of You was. In addition to spending 59 weeks on the chart, the song outlasted the SIX songs that spent time at #1 after it: Bad and Boujee (technically), HUMBLE., Thatβs What I Like, Iβm the One, Despacito, and Look What You Made Me Do. Bodak Yellow can arguably be added to the list as a seventh song, as that and SOY left the chart on the same week and Shape of You, unlike Bodak Yellow, would have stayed on if it werenβt for the 25/52 rule. It is impressice. I've always wondered how long Shape Of You would have lasted if the 25/52 rule didnt exist. I think it could have beaten Radioactive KOD/BB&B would've pushed it out anyways. And if there weren't any album bombs, I doubt it would've lasted 75+ weeks tbh
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Post by weirdo on Jan 5, 2020 21:09:23 GMT -5
It is impressice. I've always wondered how long Shape Of You would have lasted if the 25/52 rule didnt exist. I think it could have beaten Radioactive KOD/BB&B would've pushed it out anyways. And if there weren't any album bombs, I doubt it would've lasted 75+ weeks tbh Ooh, i forgot about the album bombs, yeah those probably would have pushed it out. Im just curuous but which song do you think would have gotten the closest to Radioactive?. I think either Uptown Funk or Perfect. Sunflower would have been knocked out with the Christmas music so that would have no chance even if the 25/52 rule didnt exist
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Post by Lukas on Jan 5, 2020 21:13:28 GMT -5
It wouldn't have beaten Radioactive. Radioactive mainly charted in the lower region during the first few months of its run, and had a slow climb to its peak. Which is how it was able to still chart in the top 5 after a full year on the chart. Shape of You, on the other hand, had a #1 debut. Not sure how long SOY would've lasted on the chart, but I'd say 75-80 weeks based off of its last few months of longevity.
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Post by weirdo on Jan 5, 2020 21:19:12 GMT -5
It wouldn't have beaten Radioactive. Radioactive mainly charted in the lower region during the first few months of its run, and had a slow climb to its peak. Which is how it was able to still chart in the top 5 after a full year on the chart. Shape of You, on the other hand, had a #1 debut. Not sure how long SOY would've lasted on the chart, but I'd say 75-80 weeks based off of its last few months of longevity. 75-80 weeks would still have been very impressive for a #1 debut. Where would Uptown Funk! have placed?. I assume probably the same amount of weeks
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Post by tanooki on Jan 6, 2020 10:36:33 GMT -5
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Post by Lukas on Jan 6, 2020 11:39:02 GMT -5
It wouldn't have beaten Radioactive. Radioactive mainly charted in the lower region during the first few months of its run, and had a slow climb to its peak. Which is how it was able to still chart in the top 5 after a full year on the chart. Shape of You, on the other hand, had a #1 debut. Not sure how long SOY would've lasted on the chart, but I'd say 75-80 weeks based off of its last few months of longevity. 75-80 weeks would still have been very impressive for a #1 debut. Where would Uptown Funk! have placed?. I assume probably the same amount of weeks Someone said that it was #1 on recurrents for 20 weeks which would put it at 76 weeks.
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 11:42:00 GMT -5
75-80 weeks would still have been very impressive for a #1 debut. Where would Uptown Funk! have placed?. I assume probably the same amount of weeks Someone said that it was #1 on recurrents for 20 weeks which would put it at 76 weeks. So that would tie it with I'm Yours for 3rd, not bad
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 11:51:26 GMT -5
Yes remember when we thought "boyfriend" would finally be the song to dethrone OTR? And then it didn't even spend that long on the Hot 100. I THOUGHT it would be Truth Hurts and was pretty closs I remember the anxiety every few weeks with another huge name releasing a huge comeback and still getting cockblocked by the unstoppable monster at #1 Senorita was probably the closest any debut got to defeating him
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:05:27 GMT -5
I THOUGHT it would be Truth Hurts andΒ was pretty closs I remember the anxiety every few weeks with another huge name releasing a huge comeback and still getting cockblocked by the unstoppable monster at #1 Senorita was probably the closest any debut got to defeating him TECHNICALLY bad guy counts since it debuted the same week OTR went to #1, but i can easily see why someone wouldn't count it. Either ME! or I Don't Care got the closest i think. Senorita actually debuted behind bad guy but it had good stability which gave it #1 the week of August 31
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Post by Lukas on Jan 6, 2020 12:08:56 GMT -5
I remember the anxiety every few weeks with another huge name releasing a huge comeback and still getting cockblocked by the unstoppable monster at #1 Senorita was probably the closest any debut got to defeating him Senorita actually debuted behind bad guy Nope. Senorita debuted at #2. www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2019-07-06
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Post by weirdo on Jan 6, 2020 12:10:19 GMT -5
Why did i think it debuted behind Bad Guy?. Anyway i think Senorita got pretty close but something else might have been even closer
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Post by tuna on Jan 6, 2020 21:12:55 GMT -5
I just noticed that Shut Up and Dance never made the decade-end list...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 5:08:00 GMT -5
It's such a pity "Shut Up And Dance" didn't make it, especially since rock was already underrepresented enough this decade. It would probably end up quite high in my Decade-End ranking.
Now, do correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall "ME!" was the closest song to defeat "Old Town Road" in terms of points, especially since it was challenging it during its absolute peak. "SeΓ±orita" might have come closer, but that was much later in OTR's chart run, where its points were more vulnerable to a high profile debut.
Man, if only Taylor had released "The Man", "Cruel Summer", or "Paper Rings" instead...or if Ed Sheeran had gone for "Antisocial" or "South Of The Border" over "I Don't Care" as lead single. Regardless, if there was one song to break Mariah and Boyz II Men's record, I am glad it was something as iconic as "Old Town Road". π
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Post by renaboss on Jan 7, 2020 6:56:26 GMT -5
First two #1s of 2020 both hit #1 the year before. I believe the only other times this happened were 1965 (with the Beatles' "I Feel Fine" and the Supremes' "Come See About Me") and 2002 (Nickelback's "How You Remind Me" and Usher's "U Got It Bad"). And in 1962 the first #1 was 61's "The Lion Sleeps Tonight", by the Tokens, and the very next one was the second run at #1 by Chubby Checker's "The Twist", which first hit #1 in 1960.
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Post by tanooki on Jan 8, 2020 9:56:58 GMT -5
A History of 'Jeopardy' Hits on the Billboard Hot 100 1/7/2020 by Xander Zellnerwww.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8547512/jeopardy-billboard-hot-100-history-weird-al-greg-kihn?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitterAmanda Edwards/Getty Images Alex Trebek poses on the set of the Jeopardy! "Weird Al" Yankovic's parody of The Greg Kihn Band's top 10 hit is an ode to the beloved game show, whose "Greatest of All Time" tournament begins Tuesday night. Who areβ¦ The Greg Kihn Band and βWeird Alβ Yankovic? If you guessed that those are the two artists in the 61-year history of the Billboard Hot 100 who have charted hits with βJeopardyβ in their titles, youβd be correct! As ABC airs its first Jeopardy! βGreatest of All Timeβ tournament on Tuesday night (Jan. 7), with legendary contestants Ken Jennings, Brad Rutter and James Holzhauer, letβs take a look at those two βJeopardyβ songs that reached the Hot 100. The Greg Kihn Bandβs βJeopardyβ debuted on the Hot 100 in January 1983, earning the Baltimore-based group its fourth career entry. Four months later, the track climbed all the way to No. 2 in May 1983; it was blocked by none other than Michael Jacksonβs βBeat It,β which ruled for its first of three weeks. βJeopardyβ is the band's highest-charting song on the Hot 100 and also ruled the Dance Club Songs chart for two consecutive weeks in April 1983. One year later, βWeird Alβ Yankovic released his now-iconic parody of Kihnβs tune with βI Lost on Jeopardy,β from his sophomore LP βWeird Alβ Yankovic in 3-D. Yankovicβs version takes the chorus of Kihnβs song (βOur loveβs in jeopardy, babyβ¦β and flips it to βI lost on Jeopardy, babyβ¦β In one verse, Yankovic even cites Jeopardyβs Daily Double: βOh well, I knew I was in trouble now/ My hopes of winning sank/ Because I got the Daily Double now/ And then my mind went blank.β The track also features an entire verse by the late announcer Don Pardo, whose voice you may recognize from Saturday Night Live, The Price Is Right and the original Jeopardy!. Pardo, Kihn and original Jeopardy! host Art Fleming all make cameos in Yankovic's music video. Notably, Yankovic released his parody before the current iteration of Jeopardy! was even on the air. The original daytime version aired on NBC from March 1964 to January 1975. A weekly nighttime syndicated edition aired between 1974 and 1975; and a revival, The All-New Jeopardy!, ran on NBC between 1978 and 1979. In a 2014 interview with Vulture, Yankovic said of the song: βWhat a lot of people donβt realize, when I did βI Lost on Jeopardy,β Jeopardy was not on the air; that was a retro song about the game show that Merv Griffin had created that was popular in the β60s when I was a kid. And the fact that I did that parody, Iβm told, made Merv Griffin consider doing the show again. So I think the parody had something to do with the fact that Jeopardy went back on the air.β Yankovicβs βI Lost on Jeopardyβ reached No. 81 on the Hot 100 in July 1984. Two months later, the current daily syndicated show, produced by Sony Pictures Television, premiered on Sept. 10, 1984.
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Post by rockgolf on Jan 10, 2020 9:20:18 GMT -5
This will probably cause enough response to deserve a separate thread, but I'm putting it here.
In the last couple of days, Justin Bieber, on his own social media accounts, urged his fans to get Yummy to #1 by doing several questionable things and one that was just outright not allowed by Billboard.
If I understood correctly, he told non-US fans to spoof an American account on VPN so that their Spotify plays would be counted towards the US chart. This is definitely not kosher and a Chinese singer who tried the same stunt last year in effect got banned by Billboard.
He's since pulled the post down, but several documented screenshot are around.
What's the appropriate response from Billboard? Ban Yummy completely from the Hot 100? Exclude it's entire streaming points? Other?
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Post by tanooki on Jan 10, 2020 9:48:07 GMT -5
This will probably cause enough response to deserve a separate thread, but I'm putting it here. In the last couple of days, Justin Bieber, on his own social media accounts, urged his fans to get Yummy to #1 by doing several questionable things and one that was just outright not allowed by Billboard. If I understood correctly, he told non-US fans to spoof an American account on VPN so that their Spotify plays would be counted towards the US chart. This is definitely not kosher and a Chinese singer who tried the same stunt last year in effect got banned by Billboard. He's since pulled the post down, but several documented screenshot are around. What's the appropriate response from Billboard? Ban Yummy completely from the Hot 100? Exclude it's entire streaming points? Other?
I guess trying to track down the fake streams, if not then yeah excluding its streaming would have to be the best option, as bad as it is for its chart performance, its what he deserves.
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Post by tuna on Jan 10, 2020 11:02:01 GMT -5
So, what song from this year will add itself to the greatest of all time list?
I'm thinking Dance Monkey as it's proven in the rest of the world to be a longevity monster
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Post by weirdo on Jan 10, 2020 14:55:20 GMT -5
So, what song from this year will add itself to the greatest of all time list? I'm thinking Dance Monkey as it's proven in the rest of the world to be a longevity monster Dance Monkey, Circles, MAYBE The Box but too early to tell
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 16:04:10 GMT -5
You know, I'm not sure the greatest of all time list will become all that valid as years go by. Songs these days have crazy longevity on the charts, so it's much easier for them to crack the all-time list compared to before. I mean, despite all the different weighing measures, "Old Town Road", "Sunflower", and "Without Me"(?) all managed to get there last year alone, and while the former two were deserved, I don't think "Without Me" will be that well-remembered, and I'm not even sure if it was that big of a phenomenon during its peak.
I guess I'm just concerned that future hits will be taking the place of beloved classics from the past which didn't have the same advantages of today's hits. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.
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Post by gregtwinner on Jan 10, 2020 22:08:46 GMT -5
You know, I'm not sure the greatest of all time list will become all that valid as years go by. Songs these days have crazy longevity on the charts, so it's much easier for them to crack the all-time list compared to before. I mean, despite all the different weighing measures, "Old Town Road", "Sunflower", and "Without Me"(?) all managed to get there last year alone, and while the former two were deserved, I don't think "Without Me" will be that well-remembered, and I'm not even sure if it was that big of a phenomenon during its peak. I guess I'm just concerned that future hits will be taking the place of beloved classics from the past which didn't have the same advantages of today's hits. We'll have to wait and see, I guess. They use inverse points anyway so it's not accurate
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Post by tanooki on Jan 12, 2020 8:20:55 GMT -5
Rush's Biggest Billboard Chart Hits, 'Tom Sawyer' & Beyond 1/10/2020 by Kevin Rutherfordwww.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8547802/rushs-biggest-billboard-chart-hits-tom-sawyer-beyondThe band, whose drummer Neil Peart died this week, scored five Mainstream Rock Songs No. 1s. When Billboard's Mainstream Rock Songs airplay chart first published in March 1981, Canadian rockers Rush were already well into a career that had included a pair of top 10 albums on the Billboard 200, including the No. 3-peaking Moving Pictures earlier that month. As such, the rock trio, whose drummer and lyricist Neil Peart died Tuesday after a battle with brain cancer, was a shoo-in for early Mainstream Rock Songs success, and it wasted no time in furthering its profile. The chart's first week (dated March 21, 1981) saw Rush appear twice in the top 10, the only act to do so that frame, with "Limelight" at No. 7 and "Tom Sawyer" at No. 10. That was just the start of an impressive Mainstream Rock Songs run, in which Rush notched 42 entries through 2012, currently tied with Bruce Springsteen, solo and with the E Street Band, for the seventh-most of any act since the survey's inception; U2 leads with 50 appearances. Along the way, Rush earned five No. 1s, beginning in the chart's second year of existence, when "New World Man" reigned for two weeks in October 1982. Seven years later, Rush returned to the top with "Show Don't Tell," which was both the final No. 1 of the '80s (Dec. 30, 1989) and the first No. 1 of the '90s (Jan. 6, 1990). The '90s brought three more leaders for the band: "Dreamline" (four weeks in 1991), "Stick It Out" (four, 1993) and "Test for Echo" (three, 1996). Rush earned 20 Mainstream Rock top 10s, through "One Little Victory" in 2002. Rush's Biggest Mainstream Rock Songs Hits (ranked by peak position) 1, "Stick It Out," No. 1 (four weeks), Oct. 23, 1993 1, "Dreamline," No. 1 (four weeks), Sept. 21, 1991 3, "Test for Echo," No. 1 (three weeks), Oct. 5, 1996 4, "Show Don't Tell," No. 1 (two weeks), Dec. 30, 1989 4, "New World Man," No. 1 (two weeks), Oct. 9, 1982 6, "Cold Fire," No. 2 (one week), Feb. 12, 1994| 6, "Ghost of a Chance," No. 2 (one week), Feb. 22, 1992 8, "Time Stand Still," No. 3 (two weeks), Nov. 7, 1987 9, "Force 10," No. 3 (one week), Oct. 3, 1987 9, "Distant Early Warning," No. 3 (one week), May 26, 1984 In addition to its Mainstream Rock Songs fortunes, Rush appeared on the all-genre, multi-metric Billboard Hot 100 seven times, between 1977 ("Fly by Night"/"In the Mood") and 1986 ("The Big Money"). The group scored one top 40 hit, when "New World Man" rose to No. 21 in October 1982. On the Billboard 200 albums chart, Rush boasts 12 top 10s, among 35 entries, peaking at a No. 2 best twice: with Counterparts, in November 1993, and its final full-length before Peart's death, Clockwork Angels, in June 2012. Peart died at age 67 following a battle with brain cancer, after Rush wrapped its recording and touring career in 2018 due to his health problems.
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Post by tuna on Jan 12, 2020 13:54:48 GMT -5
You know, I'm not sure the greatest of all time list will become all that valid as years go by. Songs these days have crazy longevity on the charts, so it's much easier for them to crack the all-time list compared to before. I mean, despite all the different weighing measures, "Old Town Road", "Sunflower", and "Without Me"(?) all managed to get there last year alone, and while the former two were deserved, I don't think "Without Me" will be that well-remembered, and I'm not even sure if it was that big of a phenomenon during its peak. I guess I'm just concerned that future hits will be taking the place of beloved classics from the past which didn't have the same advantages of today's hits. We'll have to wait and see, I guess. Like it or not, Without Me was huge. And sometimes you just gotta deal with lame songs getting onto big charts- nobody remembers Because I Love You or Shadow Dancing but those are comfortably in the greatest of all time list
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Post by shoocoochoocoo on Jan 12, 2020 15:24:08 GMT -5
So I am...nobody? Hmmm...
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Post by weirdo on Jan 12, 2020 18:20:32 GMT -5
You know something interesting?. I did a test to see which songs would have gone recureent in 2013 if the christmas bomb had been as bad as it was this year, and these are all the sonfs that would have gone recurrent
Mirrors - 40wks (Dec 7) We Can't Stop - 24wks (Dec 7) Summertime Sadness - 20wks (Dec 14) Sail - 66wks (Dec 28) Gas Pedal - 20wks (Dec 28; probably would have re-entered the following week due to its gains) Safe & Sound - 32wks (Dec 28) Holy Grail - 23wks (Jan 4) Radioactive - 66wks (Jan 4) Love More - 21wks (Jan 4) Brave - 26wks (Jan 4)
Interesting to see both Sail & Radioactibe would have hone recurrent....and both at 66 weeks. Nothing new would have been knocked out the week of Dec 21, which is kinda odd
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Post by jdanton2 on Jan 16, 2020 19:25:44 GMT -5
not sure where i should post this but a video of the song Baby Shark is now the 3rd most viewed video ever and could become the 2nd most viewed soon . it does not show up on Kworb like the others listed.
4 See You Again 4,369,028,137 views 3 Baby Shark 4,369,050,159 views 2 Shape Of You 4,575,564,838 views 1 Despacito 6,601,623,632 views
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 10:50:04 GMT -5
Baby Shark deserves it. I was a whole moment in the music industry that spawned promising upcoming artists such as Peppa Pig. Even Taylor Swift and Brendon Urie were influenced by its inspiring success when they wrote "ME!".
A true timeless hit. π
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Jan 17, 2020 15:17:22 GMT -5
Question about the U.K. Singles Chart - why isnβt the chart history button working for any of the songs? The little blue plus no longer shows a songβs history, at least not on mobile.
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Post by rockgolf on Jan 21, 2020 9:20:24 GMT -5
Baby Shark deserves it. I was a whole moment in the music industry that spawned promising upcoming artists such as Peppa Pig. Even Taylor Swift and Brendon Urie were influenced by its inspiring success when they wrote "ME!". A true timeless hit. π Baby snark
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Post by renaboss on Jan 21, 2020 20:00:09 GMT -5
I know "Lover" is still in the charts and all, but is Taylor done promoting this era? Any word on new singles?
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