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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 19:17:52 GMT -5
I don’t want to look for the Maroon 5 thread so I’ll just do what everyone else does and dump this in here: Adam has quit The Voice. Maroon 5 are gonna be finished! No, everyone else DOES NOT just do this. If you hate him/them so much that you felt the need to just randomly stir up this discussion that is not only not related to this week's Hot 100 but the Hot 100 in general, I feel sorry for you. PLEASE move this discussion far away from here. I mean, there's a boatload of sh*t I could just randomly bring up about so many artists, so don't get me started!! Dragged |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 19:18:47 GMT -5
It's too easy for songs to hit diamond imo. Especially with streaming. It is really? Like 20 songs are Diamond. And there’s like an average of maybe 2 Diamond songs released per year. No different than how there is dozens upon dozens of albums from 70s-90s that are Diamond, but almost none today. Was it “easier” then or was album consumption by the public just at an all time high therefore certifications also were? Today consuming a song is done more than ever by the public. You don’t have physical singles released in limited quantities for limited times. Everyone consumes hundreds if not thousands of songs per year. So it makes sense song certifications would currently be reflected at higher rates than ever. It is lmao, the fact that there r muti platinum album tracks says it all |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 24, 2019 20:46:35 GMT -5
^Agreed. In spite of that, very few of the newer albums are managing to get to platinum.
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Post by brady47 on May 24, 2019 21:00:46 GMT -5
It's too easy for songs to hit diamond imo. Especially with streaming. It is really? Like 20 songs are Diamond. And there’s like an average of maybe 2 Diamond songs released per year. No different than how there is dozens upon dozens of albums from 70s-90s that are Diamond, but almost none today. Was it “easier” then or was album consumption by the public just at an all time high therefore certifications also were? Today consuming a song is done more than ever by the public. You don’t have physical singles released in limited quantities for limited times. Everyone consumes hundreds if not thousands of songs per year. So it makes sense song certifications would currently be reflected at higher rates than ever. Tbh, I think a lot of songs could be certified diamond but aren't. For example, "Tik Tok" is 8x platinum, but isn't it eligible for Diamond status? (I might be wrong though) |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 24, 2019 21:17:56 GMT -5
^That certification was awarded on December of last year, which probably means it would takea few more years to even get to 9x platinum. Another thing that has to be taken into account is that RIAA needs to be paid to recertify. It seems that doesn't happen, in Australia, where certifications are awarded as they happen. ARIA also publishes their singles chart. In the US, you have Billboard doing that and having different rules for counting streams from different sources.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on May 24, 2019 21:29:05 GMT -5
people shouldn’t have to pay to have their music certified
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Post by Naos on May 24, 2019 22:56:02 GMT -5
people shouldn’t have to pay to have their music certified Should people not have to pay for SoundScan as well? |
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Post by korbel16 on May 24, 2019 23:45:14 GMT -5
OTR seems to be well on its way to go diamond. I’m calling it now
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Post by 85la on May 25, 2019 1:38:49 GMT -5
To clarify, in order to get an RIAA certification, labels must apply for and pay for them, they are not automatically given because the RIAA is a separate, private organization that is essentially selling a product, record companies are not entitled to them. The diamond award for songs does seem to be getting pretty common though; a search on their site yields 27 titles, but they haven't included Congratulations yet, so I'd imagine there's others not listed. Originally I assumed most of the songs would be earlier titles driven largely by digital sales, but there seems to be a mixture of older and newer songs, so songs can get there just as easily through streaming, and with that only increasing, I'd imagine there will be many more diamond singles to come. For reference, here's a link to their certification process: www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/DIGITAL-SINGLE-AWARD-RIAA-AND-GRF-CERTIFICATION-AUDIT-REQUIREMENTS.pdf |
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Post by lugus15 on May 25, 2019 2:27:05 GMT -5
What has caused OTR to have such huge gains today? Last day of school?
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Post by spicymapping on May 25, 2019 8:55:42 GMT -5
ok what the actual fuck just happened to without me's radio.
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Post by Nick P on May 25, 2019 8:56:42 GMT -5
Looks like (according to Kworb and HDD) Without Me was pulled from pop and lost nearly 50 million in radio audience. I guess this is gonna fall fast soon
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Post by spicymapping on May 25, 2019 8:59:30 GMT -5
It's also weird to see the sudden jumps for What About Us, Living and Hanging On as well as a sudden drop for Sunflower. It'd be one thing to see one of these happen, but all at once? This is odd.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 25, 2019 9:08:24 GMT -5
^Sunflower lost two radio formats.
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/05/25
1(+1) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 145.85(-0.01) 2(-1) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 145.61(-1.339
3(=) Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix] 119.66(+1.20)
4(=) Ava Max - Sweet but Psycho 115.82(+0.69)
5(=) Post Malone - Wow. 102.45(+0.05)
6(=) Khalid - Talk 102.37(+2.89)
7(=) Taylor Swift - ME! (feat. Brendon Urie of Panic! At The Disco) 94.23(-0.35)
8(+2) Panic! At the Disco - High Hopes 82.83(-1.42)
9(=) Ariana Grande - break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored 82.80(-2.02)
10(+1 ) benny blanco, Halsey & Khalid - Eastside 79.70(-0.89)
11(+1) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 78.12(+4.80) 25(+2) Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma, I Made It 47.27( +1.15) 26(-9) Post Malone & Swae Lee - Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse) 46.84(-14.72)
40(-32) Halsey - Without Me 37.74(-49.50)
41(+5) Billie Eilish - bad guy 36.98(+1.26)
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 10:26:26 GMT -5
ok what the actual f**k just happened to without me's radio.
Halsey: "Thinking you could live without me?"
Pop Radio: "Absolutely."
40(-32) Halsey - Without Me 37.74(-49.50) |
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Post by rimetm on May 25, 2019 10:28:41 GMT -5
To be clear, what's happening here with both Sunflower and Without Me are that they went recurrent on the respective formats. They were both old enough that leaving the top 15 equaled recurrency, and they were straddling the line last week. Us predictors will have to keep that in mind when it comes to making the estimates.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 25, 2019 10:31:38 GMT -5
I don’t want to look for the Maroon 5 thread so I’ll just do what everyone else does and dump this in here: Adam has quit The Voice. Maroon 5 are gonna be finished! No, everyone else DOES NOT just do this. If you hate him/them so much that you felt the need to just randomly stir up this discussion that is not only not related to this week's Hot 100 but the Hot 100 in general, I feel sorry for you. PLEASE move this discussion far away from here. I mean, there's a boatload of sh*t I could just randomly bring up about so many artists, so don't get me started!! lmao! Do you WANT me to go through this thread and pick out every post that has nothing to do with the current or any Hot 100? Because I can. You can even pick any Hot 100 thread from 2019 and I'll accept the challenge.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 10:35:39 GMT -5
To be clear, what's happening here with both Sunflower and Without Me are that they went recurrent on the respective formats. They were both old enough that leaving the top 15 equaled recurrency, and they were straddling the line last week. Us predictors will have to keep that in mind when it comes to making the estimates. But I don't remember seeing such a crazy update from kworb before... I remember LYWMMD's (-10) or something was the steepest drop not counting 8th day effects. And those had a format recurrent lost 10-20m tops... as shown on kworb's red updates. But like... (-49.50)??! They should also remove it from iTunes. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 25, 2019 10:46:20 GMT -5
people shouldn’t have to pay to have their music certified Why not? There is labor behind the process of certifications. Should those people just work for free? |
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Post by Xander on May 25, 2019 10:46:38 GMT -5
So does this mean that without me now has the biggest pop airplay loss this year, replacing please me?
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Post by fhas on May 25, 2019 10:49:39 GMT -5
To be clear, what's happening here with both Sunflower and Without Me are that they went recurrent on the respective formats. They were both old enough that leaving the top 15 equaled recurrency, and they were straddling the line last week. Us predictors will have to keep that in mind when it comes to making the estimates. What is weird is that when a song was recurrent on pop radio it was still counted on Kworb's audience. If that's not the case anymore, it'll be really hard to predict radio (the easiest metric to predict). |
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Post by spicymapping on May 25, 2019 11:14:09 GMT -5
Also, I think Shallow has that title over Please Me from last week.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 25, 2019 11:16:38 GMT -5
So does this mean that without me now has the biggest pop airplay loss this year, replacing please me? No, because it's not actual loss. It still has the airplay, Kworb just doesn't count it anymore. He does still count it. Problem is, there's a problem with AllAccess right now (where Kworb's site sources its data. On all the main charts, #30 is listed twice and #50 is not displaying. IDK what the specific issue is with the recurrent lists, but 'Without Me' is not showing up at all there when it should be. Since that data is missing, the reading on Kworb is wildly inaccurate. |
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Post by gabe on May 25, 2019 11:19:45 GMT -5
ok what the actual f**k just happened to without me's radio.
Halsey: "Thinking you could live without me?"
Pop Radio: "Absolutely."
40(-32) Halsey - Without Me 37.74(-49.50)are you okay |
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Post by kierz7 on May 25, 2019 11:29:53 GMT -5
Pop radio: "Baby, I'm the one who put you up there, I don't know why, I mean... it's a garbage song."
Halsey: "Thinking you could live without me?"
Pop Radio: "Absolutely."
40(-32) Halsey - Without Me 37.74(-49.50) are you okay LMFAO! |
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Post by Crimsonio on May 25, 2019 11:30:37 GMT -5
It's fine Nightmare was the #1 most added song at radio this week. it'll be Top 10 in a week or two.
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Post by ddlz on May 25, 2019 11:52:38 GMT -5
Peaks don't mean shit if your song don't have staying power. Congratulations didn't get Diamond certification by accident. It's still doing insane numbers for 2016 single, outlasting many, much younger, hits, which is not as easy as Post makes it look.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on May 25, 2019 12:33:58 GMT -5
Congratulations is still in the Top 200 on US Spotify.
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Post by ddlz on May 25, 2019 12:56:37 GMT -5
With radio already dumping ME! and Taylor hinting at political undertones of the album, the entertainment factor of this era will most likely be off the charts!
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Post by kingvavis on May 25, 2019 13:03:16 GMT -5
With radio already dumping ME! and Taylor hinting at political undertones of the album, the entertainment factor of this era will most likely be off the charts! Yep, it will be off the Billboard charts |
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