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Post by Choco on Jun 30, 2019 19:15:34 GMT -5
Katy certainly deserves it too. I'd actually love to see her getting it this year (and timing works out for a potential album/second single).
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Post by Mike on Jun 30, 2019 20:14:30 GMT -5
I would give it to both Katy and Taylor this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 21:14:40 GMT -5
I would give it to both Katy and Taylor this year. Oh goodness, no! No artist would want to 'share' such an honor/spotlight, and rightfully so. The only time that would be acceptable is for something like the R&R Hall of Fame.
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Post by Okay on Jul 1, 2019 17:23:13 GMT -5
Katy deserves the Vanguard and I'll be kinda disappointed if anybody else gets it. Her videos are more iconic than Gaga's, IMO.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 4, 2019 15:15:00 GMT -5
Katy's most known videos have probably 'endured' (not really the proper term, but I think they're friendlier for replays over a long time since they're not as out there, kinda like Taylor's YBWM video) better, but at her peak, Gaga definitely made the bigger splash. Moreover, although Katy did have a very good video with Hot n Cold, it was Gaga's breakthrough that really revitalized the effort people put into their videos. I think Born This Way unfortunately didn't produce any lasting videos (the title track is one of her most known songs, and EoG stayed around, but the facial prosthetics and sci-fi angle have been mostly forgotten, and the EoG video was her first to really be considered a resounding disappointment), so her period is shorter, but the trio of Paparazzi-Bad Romance-Telephone alone makes her worthy in addition to the aforementioned impact.
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Post by Choco on Jul 4, 2019 15:27:11 GMT -5
Katy's most known videos have probably 'endured' (not really the proper term, but I think they're friendlier for replays over a long time since they're not as out there, kinda like Taylor's YBWM video) better, but at her peak, Gaga definitely made the bigger splash. Moreover, although Katy did have a very good video with Hot n Cold, it was Gaga's breakthrough that really revitalized the effort people put into their videos. I think Born This Way unfortunately didn't produce any lasting videos (the title track is one of her most known songs, and EoG stayed around, but the facial prosthetics and sci-fi angle have been mostly forgotten, and the EoG video was her first to really be considered a resounding disappointment), so her period is shorter, but the trio of Paparazzi-Bad Romance-Telephone alone makes her worthy in addition to the aforementioned impact. Facts! "Roar", "Dark Horse" and the Teenage Dream videos are all very well known but there's nothing quite as huge as "Bad Romance" in Katy's videography.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 4, 2019 16:12:34 GMT -5
Katy's most known videos have probably 'endured' (not really the proper term, but I think they're friendlier for replays over a long time since they're not as out there, kinda like Taylor's YBWM video) better, but at her peak, Gaga definitely made the bigger splash. Moreover, although Katy did have a very good video with Hot n Cold, it was Gaga's breakthrough that really revitalized the effort people put into their videos. I think Born This Way unfortunately didn't produce any lasting videos (the title track is one of her most known songs, and EoG stayed around, but the facial prosthetics and sci-fi angle have been mostly forgotten, and the EoG video was her first to really be considered a resounding disappointment), so her period is shorter, but the trio of Paparazzi-Bad Romance-Telephone alone makes her worthy in addition to the aforementioned impact. Facts! "Roar", "Dark Horse" and the Teenage Dream videos are all very well known but there's nothing quite as huge as "Bad Romance" in Katy's videography. bone apple teeth says hi! sis was getting millions of views in 2019 {--} jk
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 5, 2019 1:47:31 GMT -5
Katy's most known videos have probably 'endured' (not really the proper term, but I think they're friendlier for replays over a long time since they're not as out there, kinda like Taylor's YBWM video) better, but at her peak, Gaga definitely made the bigger splash. Moreover, although Katy did have a very good video with Hot n Cold, it was Gaga's breakthrough that really revitalized the effort people put into their videos. I think Born This Way unfortunately didn't produce any lasting videos (the title track is one of her most known songs, and EoG stayed around, but the facial prosthetics and sci-fi angle have been mostly forgotten, and the EoG video was her first to really be considered a resounding disappointment), so her period is shorter, but the trio of Paparazzi-Bad Romance-Telephone alone makes her worthy in addition to the aforementioned impact. BIIITTCH JUDAS SAYS HI!
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 5, 2019 2:59:16 GMT -5
Katy's most known videos have probably 'endured' (not really the proper term, but I think they're friendlier for replays over a long time since they're not as out there, kinda like Taylor's YBWM video) better, but at her peak, Gaga definitely made the bigger splash. Moreover, although Katy did have a very good video with Hot n Cold, it was Gaga's breakthrough that really revitalized the effort people put into their videos. I think Born This Way unfortunately didn't produce any lasting videos (the title track is one of her most known songs, and EoG stayed around, but the facial prosthetics and sci-fi angle have been mostly forgotten, and the EoG video was her first to really be considered a resounding disappointment), so her period is shorter, but the trio of Paparazzi-Bad Romance-Telephone alone makes her worthy in addition to the aforementioned impact. BIIITTCH JUDAS SAYS HI! Everything about Judas is forgotten though, including the video. Lasting doesn't mean whether it's good or not, it's whether it has endured. Judas is entirely forgotten; it played off her OTT strengths, but the three videos I mentioned all do that as well. Y&I had effort put into its video too, but I think similar to EoG, the song stayed (in the US anyway) around a bit, but it wasn't married to its visual like her earlier hits. I'd say even Applause has held up better as a video, but she never hit that zone she had through Telephone.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 5, 2019 3:02:02 GMT -5
I WILL DISAGREE
LET'S GIVE G.U.Y. A BELATED VMA
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 5, 2019 6:45:27 GMT -5
My favorite video from Katy is definitely "E.T.", that was really epic.
Just give Katy and Gaga their Vanguard this and next year.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 5, 2019 11:31:37 GMT -5
A VANGUARD!
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Post by Caviar on Jul 5, 2019 16:02:24 GMT -5
Queen of billion views!
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 5, 2019 17:45:00 GMT -5
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Post by kimberly on Jul 5, 2019 23:50:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 0:19:29 GMT -5
I can't think of a single Katy video better than Blank Space
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Post by Okay on Jul 6, 2019 12:20:31 GMT -5
Gaga has great videos in Bad Romance and G.U.Y, the rest are alright but not as great as Katy's pre-Witness. I do love Judas but the video needed much better editing.
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Jul 6, 2019 12:28:50 GMT -5
Missy would be a great vanguard choice, Gaga definitely, Katy would be a third choice
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Post by Caviar on Jul 6, 2019 12:41:01 GMT -5
Katy would be my #1.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 6, 2019 18:57:08 GMT -5
I can't think of a single Katy video better than Blank Space Taylor does NOT have the catalog Katy has. Even if you think BS tops all of Katy's videos, Katy just has way more good, well-produced videos. She started with "Hot n Cold" and all her videos, especially "Roar," "Dark Horse," "Unconditionally," + Teenage Dream era are stunning and visually pleasing, every single one of them. Even "Rise," "Chained to the Rhythm" and "Bon Appetit" had stellar music videos. She delivered nonstop.
Taylor's greatest music videos only started rolling in with "Love Story" and "You Belong With Me," and then "WANEGBT" from RED era, then "Blank Space," "Style," "Wildest Dreams," and maybe "Bad Blood" are good ones. "LWYMMD" was the only great one from reputation, and "YNTCD" is the good one from Lover.
They are both deserving, but I think Katy is just more consistent. She doesn't do the tour performance music video a la "New Romantics" and "Red", and she never did a celeb cameo-filled one either ("Swish Swish" is closest she got).
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Post by Caviar on Jul 6, 2019 19:58:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 23:20:06 GMT -5
I can't think of a single Katy video better than Blank Space Taylor does NOT have the catalog Katy has. Even if you think BS tops all of Katy's videos, Katy just has way more good, well-produced videos. She started with "Hot n Cold" and all her videos, especially "Roar," "Dark Horse," "Unconditionally," + Teenage Dream era are stunning and visually pleasing, every single one of them. Even "Rise," "Chained to the Rhythm" and "Bon Appetit" had stellar music videos. She delivered nonstop.
Taylor's greatest music videos only started rolling in with "Love Story" and "You Belong With Me," and then "WANEGBT" from RED era, then "Blank Space," "Style," "Wildest Dreams," and maybe "Bad Blood" are good ones. "LWYMMD" was the only great one from reputation, and "YNTCD" is the good one from Lover.
They are both deserving, but I think Katy is just more consistent. She doesn't do the tour performance music video a la "New Romantics" and "Red", and she never did a celeb cameo-filled one either ("Swish Swish" is closest she got).
You did not call Dark Horse MV good....
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 7, 2019 7:01:05 GMT -5
Y'all crazy if you think Gaga isn't desreving of the Vanguard. She is the reason these Pop gerls started requesting budgets for their videos again.
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Post by Wave. on Jul 7, 2019 9:41:54 GMT -5
I can't think of a single Katy video better than Blank Space Taylor does NOT have the catalog Katy has. Even if you think BS tops all of Katy's videos, Katy just has way more good, well-produced videos. She started with "Hot n Cold" and all her videos, especially "Roar," "Dark Horse," "Unconditionally," + Teenage Dream era are stunning and visually pleasing, every single one of them. Even "Rise," "Chained to the Rhythm" and "Bon Appetit" had stellar music videos. She delivered nonstop.
Taylor's greatest music videos only started rolling in with "Love Story" and "You Belong With Me," and then "WANEGBT" from RED era, then "Blank Space," "Style," "Wildest Dreams," and maybe "Bad Blood" are good ones. "LWYMMD" was the only great one from reputation, and "YNTCD" is the good one from Lover. They are both deserving, but I think Katy is just more consistent. She doesn't do the tour performance music video a la "New Romantics" and "Red", and she never did a celeb cameo-filled one either ("Swish Swish" is closest she got).
Speak. You can say whatever you want about her music, but her videos are always interesting.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 7, 2019 12:55:36 GMT -5
Y'all crazy if you think Gaga isn't desreving of the Vanguard. She is the reason these Pop gerls started requesting budgets for their videos again. Oh she deserves honey I just don’t think her team would accept that this year. What’s she going to promote, ASIB? I would love a gaga release before August ends but I want her to take her time with this next album
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 8, 2019 14:52:37 GMT -5
Katy has a ton of iconic music videos: California Gurls Firework ET Last Friday Night Roar Dark Horse Bon Appétit
Regardless what you think about the songs, all of those videos are spectacular visuals. I’d love to see Katy get the Vanguard this year. Not to mention, her videography views on YouTube are record breaking.
If Gaga doesn’t get it this year, she definitely deserves it next year. Her Fame/Fame Monster videos are all iconic. Taylor will get the Vanguard at some point in the future but both Gaga and Katy deserve it first.
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Post by Safado on Jul 8, 2019 15:14:44 GMT -5
I am shocked that Gaga does not have a Vanguard award(although my love for her is has gone down a lot), her videos are always amazing. She pushes the envelope unlike KP. But if it comes between KP and TS, KP has the better video collection.
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Post by collegedropout on Jul 8, 2019 19:24:04 GMT -5
Billie Eillish deserves the vanguard
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Post by collegedropout on Jul 8, 2019 19:28:17 GMT -5
Gaga's videos made a far greater impact, but Katy's videos are better. Will they go with quality or impact?
Or neither. Taylor will buy it!
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 8, 2019 20:39:24 GMT -5
^ I know you're being sarcastic but I've seen people actually mention Taylor should get it, which doesn't make any sense. I know she's been around a long time but Taylor does not have a great catalog of videos tbh, she started really getting into it during the 1989 era.
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