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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 7, 2019 5:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 7, 2019 6:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 8, 2019 8:44:02 GMT -5
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jul 8, 2019 12:04:47 GMT -5
Camila should be concerned if she can only get hits from songs like this. She might be typecast given her breakout hit and ethnic background.
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Post by Mayman on Jul 8, 2019 12:05:27 GMT -5
Why does everyone forget about Never Be The Same?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 8, 2019 12:49:55 GMT -5
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Post by yuh yuh on Jul 8, 2019 13:03:09 GMT -5
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Post by tinawina on Jul 8, 2019 14:39:05 GMT -5
Camila should be concerned if she can only get hits from songs like this. She might be typecast given her breakout hit and ethnic background. Given her history at pop radio I’m less concerned that the audience will typecast her than I am tthat the label will do it to her. She was on a number of hits before Havana. But if her two smashes are Latin music influenced look for the label to chase the bigger payday really hard.
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Post by leonagwen on Jul 8, 2019 17:07:58 GMT -5
Camila should be concerned if she can only get hits from songs like this. She might be typecast given her breakout hit and ethnic background. Who cares how she gets hits? If the formula works, keep doing it.
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Post by Choco on Jul 8, 2019 17:19:53 GMT -5
Y'all acting like "Never be the Same" and "Bad Things" never happened.
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Post by Gray. on Jul 8, 2019 18:04:19 GMT -5
I hate this. It’s so boring and unoriginal for both of them.
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Post by leonagwen on Jul 8, 2019 21:37:59 GMT -5
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Post by Mayman on Jul 8, 2019 22:07:40 GMT -5
what in the pr relationship is going on?
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 8, 2019 22:10:30 GMT -5
#1 on Radio Disney. I'm also hearing it more then I did You Need to Calm Down when it was at #1, possibly because Disney didn't have a clean edit for YNTCD. Edits made: "We danced for hours in the sand/Tequila sunrise/her body fit right in my hands" ---> "We danced for hours in the sunrise/sunrise/her body fit right in my hands" (Yeah, it sounds sloppy.) "I wish it wasn't so damn hard to leave ya" ---> "I wish it wasn't so so hard to leave ya" "Locked in a hotel/there's just some things that never change/you say we're just friends/but friends don't know the way you taste" ---> "[extended blank]/there's just some things that never change/you say we're just friends/there's just some things that never change" "Ooh, when your lips undress me, hooked on your tongue/Ooh, love, your kiss is deadly, don't stop" ---> "Ooh, when your kiss is deadly, don't stop/Ooh, love, your kiss is deadly, don't stop" Is it just me, or do most of these edits not change the sexual vibe at all or even make it slightly more clear?
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 8, 2019 22:19:28 GMT -5
Y'all acting like "Never be the Same" and "Bad Things" never happened. While this may be true, "Bad Things" was before "Havana." "Never Be the Same" did well, but ultimately guess what's going to be remembered more? "Havana." And both "Consequences" struggling and "Beautiful" kind of peetering out right after it didn't do her any favors. The fact is, most people that only know her casually and aren't big fans, probably only know her as the "Havana" singer and nothing more and either don't know her other hits or don't even realize it's her, with perhaps even fewer realizing she's from Fifth Harmony (or even who Fifth Harmony is). I'm sure she's fine, especially in Europe where both her and Fifth Harmony are better known, but it is something that is worth the concern, especially if this is looking to be her second biggest hit of her career after "Havana." And as tinawina pointed out, the concern is more to do with the label pushing that to be her typecasted sound, not the GP. Though if the label pushes her to do more Latin influenced music, she will eventually be typecasted as such by the GP. A good parallel for this is Avril Lavigne. After several pop/rock/punk hits that outshined her more mature material ("Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," and "Girlfriend" outshining the likes of "I'm with You," "Losing Grip," "When You're Gone"), she was typecasted by her label to push that music into the mainstream ("What the Hell," "Smile," and "Here's to Never Growing Up"), the GP got tired of it, and, well, now the rest is history. But this is only her second Latin inspired hit. As long as she's able to secure another massive hit or two or even a few smaller hits the size of "Never Be the Same" that isn't in the Latin vein, she should be able to avoid this.
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Post by Exclusive on Jul 8, 2019 22:28:39 GMT -5
I hope this isn't a PR stunt, that would be so fruitless and unnecessary. Their fans have been pushing this narrative for years now, adding fuel to the fire is mundane.
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Post by mattcatlover456 on Jul 8, 2019 23:20:27 GMT -5
Y'all acting like "Never be the Same" and "Bad Things" never happened. While this may be true, "Bad Things" was before "Havana." "Never Be the Same" did well, but ultimately guess what's going to be remembered more? "Havana." And both "Consequences" struggling and "Beautiful" kind of peetering out right after it didn't do her any favors. The fact is, most people that only know her casually and aren't big fans, probably only know her as the "Havana" singer and nothing more and either don't know her other hits or don't even realize it's her, with perhaps even fewer realizing she's from Fifth Harmony (or even who Fifth Harmony is). I'm sure she's fine, especially in Europe where both her and Fifth Harmony are better known, but it is something that is worth the concern, especially if this is looking to be her second biggest hit of her career after "Havana." And as tinawina pointed out, the concern is more to do with the label pushing that to be her typecasted sound, not the GP. Though if the label pushes her to do more Latin influenced music, she will eventually be typecasted as such by the GP. A good parallel for this is Avril Lavigne. After several pop/rock/punk hits that outshined her more mature material ("Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," and "Girlfriend" outshining the likes of "I'm with You," "Losing Grip," "When You're Gone"), she was typecasted by her label to push that music into the mainstream ("What the Hell," "Smile," and "Here's to Never Growing Up"), the GP got tired of it, and, well, now the rest is history. But this is only her second Latin inspired hit. As long as she's able to secure another massive hit or two or even a few smaller hits the size of "Never Be the Same" that isn't in the Latin vein, she should be able to avoid this. How is this her second album when it’s a feature and the album hasn’t even been released and what makes you think it’s going to be Latin based.. this is one of the biggest hits in the country right now!
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 8, 2019 23:28:50 GMT -5
While this may be true, "Bad Things" was before "Havana." "Never Be the Same" did well, but ultimately guess what's going to be remembered more? "Havana." And both "Consequences" struggling and "Beautiful" kind of peetering out right after it didn't do her any favors. The fact is, most people that only know her casually and aren't big fans, probably only know her as the "Havana" singer and nothing more and either don't know her other hits or don't even realize it's her, with perhaps even fewer realizing she's from Fifth Harmony (or even who Fifth Harmony is). I'm sure she's fine, especially in Europe where both her and Fifth Harmony are better known, but it is something that is worth the concern, especially if this is looking to be her second biggest hit of her career after "Havana." And as tinawina pointed out, the concern is more to do with the label pushing that to be her typecasted sound, not the GP. Though if the label pushes her to do more Latin influenced music, she will eventually be typecasted as such by the GP. A good parallel for this is Avril Lavigne. After several pop/rock/punk hits that outshined her more mature material ("Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," and "Girlfriend" outshining the likes of "I'm with You," "Losing Grip," "When You're Gone"), she was typecasted by her label to push that music into the mainstream ("What the Hell," "Smile," and "Here's to Never Growing Up"), the GP got tired of it, and, well, now the rest is history. But this is only her second Latin inspired hit. As long as she's able to secure another massive hit or two or even a few smaller hits the size of "Never Be the Same" that isn't in the Latin vein, she should be able to avoid this. How is this her second album when it’s a feature and the album hasn’t even been released and what makes you think it’s going to be Latin based.. this is one of the biggest hits in the country right now! ...what? I never said anything about an album. What I did say was that this is shaping up to be her second biggest hit and her second Latin inspired hit.
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Post by mattcatlover456 on Jul 9, 2019 0:03:20 GMT -5
Well I mean Latin music is really popular right now
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 9, 2019 0:44:02 GMT -5
Well I mean Latin music is really popular right now How does that contradict anything brought up in the conversation thus far? A certain genre being a trend does not have any effect on whether an artist doing said genre will be typecasted in it or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 1:04:36 GMT -5
So we don't count Work From Home as a hit for her? Cuz unless this goes #1 that will be her second biggest hit
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 9, 2019 1:18:27 GMT -5
So we don't count Work From Home as a hit for her? Cuz unless this goes #1 that will be her second biggest hit Based on what, peaks? Peaks aren't the only thing that matter.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 9, 2019 6:01:50 GMT -5
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Post by tinawina on Jul 9, 2019 8:33:06 GMT -5
So we don't count Work From Home as a hit for her? Cuz unless this goes #1 that will be her second biggest hit Yes, she’s had multiple hits with and without 5H. That is why no one thinks the US general public would typecast her. The difference is that Havana wasn’t merely a hit, it was a worldwide multi format smash. People who can produce multiples of those make a different level of money. If this turns into her second one, ALSO Latin based, then the label might begin to push hard for her to keep making these types of songs. That’s all we’re saying. The only reason that’s a problem IMO is that I don’t think that’s what she wants. Also it could cause problems down the line if the artist wants to deviate from a signature sound. But really, it would be a good problem to have, because it’s a problem born of success. Anyway I think she wants to be less Gloria Estefan and more “singer songwriter pop girl” so to speak.
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Post by Choco on Jul 9, 2019 16:07:28 GMT -5
So do we believe those papz photos of Camila and Shawn? It feels a bit forced IMO.
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Jul 9, 2019 16:42:53 GMT -5
So do we believe those papz photos of Camila and Shawn? It feels a bit forced IMO. I don’t think they’re dating
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 9, 2019 16:58:26 GMT -5
#1 on Radio Disney. I'm also hearing it more then I did You Need to Calm Down when it was at #1, possibly because Disney didn't have a clean edit for YNTCD. Edits made: "We danced for hours in the sand/Tequila sunrise/her body fit right in my hands" ---> "We danced for hours in the sunrise/sunrise/her body fit right in my hands" (Yeah, it sounds sloppy.) "I wish it wasn't so damn hard to leave ya" ---> "I wish it wasn't so so hard to leave ya" "Locked in a hotel/there's just some things that never change/you say we're just friends/but friends don't know the way you taste" ---> "[extended blank]/there's just some things that never change/you say we're just friends/there's just some things that never change" "Ooh, when your lips undress me, hooked on your tongue/Ooh, love, your kiss is deadly, don't stop" ---> "Ooh, when your kiss is deadly, don't stop/Ooh, love, your kiss is deadly, don't stop" Is it just me, or do most of these edits not change the sexual vibe at all or even make it slightly more clear? It sounds even worse hearing it than reading it
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Post by dbhmr on Jul 9, 2019 17:00:08 GMT -5
Just saw the video lmao so cringey. Seems like something designed to play in the background of a high school dance--everything felt so much like a kids' idea of sexuality and relationships. I'm sure there's a more elegant way to phrase that, but it was just very...juvenile, which was so at odds with the content.
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Jul 9, 2019 17:16:17 GMT -5
Just saw the video lmao so cringey. Seems like something designed to play in the background of a high school dance--everything felt so much like a kids' idea of sexuality and relationships. I'm sure there's a more elegant way to phrase that, but it was just very...juvenile, which was so at odds with the content. Idk lol I low key liked it. It was simple
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 19:18:42 GMT -5
So we don't count Work From Home as a hit for her? Cuz unless this goes #1 that will be her second biggest hit Based on what, peaks? Peaks aren't the only thing that matter. This already outpeaked it so idk why you would bring that up, I mean impact. Everyone was talking about the song and it still gets heavy recurrent airplay 4 years later
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