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Post by 🌺CountryLineDancer on Nov 17, 2020 1:32:44 GMT -5
#3 now on Billboard Hot 100 this week! Gabby Barrett's "I Hope," featuring Charlie Puth, rises 5-3 on the Hot 100, hitting a new high, as it posts a third week at No. 2 on Radio Songs (78.1 million, down 2%), after a week at No. 1; bounds 15-6 on Digital Song Sales (9,000, up 81%); and re-enters Streaming Songs at No. 30 (9.8 million, up 14%). The song gains in all metrics after Barrett and Puth performed it on the 54th annual Country Music Association Awards, broadcast on ABC on Nov. 11. A week after "I Hope" completed the longest climb ever to the Hot 100's top five, it wraps the longest journey to the top three: 46 weeks, surpassing the 43-week ascent of Imagine Dragons' "Radioactive" in 2012-13. "I Hope" led the Country Airplay chart for a week in April and, aided by its Puth remix released that month, has segued to adult and pop radio (as it continues in the top 10 on the Adult Contemporary, Adult Pop Songs and Pop Songs airplay charts). It tops the multi-metric Hot Country Songs chart for a 16th week. Great news! Even though I enjoyed the CMA performance only the part Gabby was singing, still great to see solo female country singer so high on Billboard. Although I really don't like having Charlie in this song, and he is ruining this song with robotic voice (I like him for other songs), and I don't like having a non-country singer in country songs remix in general, this remix is helping her success, so happy for Gabby. Still feel frustrated when I saw comments for this song, like "I'm here for Charlie" or "Charlie is awesome" on FB/YouTube. Please don't do the remix of Good Ones with pop singer!
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Post by thesurf on Nov 18, 2020 23:01:31 GMT -5
I don't want to get into the "The Bones" vs. "I Hope" debate that is inevitably already happening online, but it is interesting to note how adding a feature/remix substantially helped Gabby while it hardly helped Maren. I wonder how much bigger "The Bones" might've been if someone more friendly to pop had been the feature rather than Hozier. I will say it's extremely impressive both singles became such crossover smashes. Maren did it practically by herself (of course with the help of "The Middle") while Gabby had Charlie Puth to tug her along (although it was her debut single, making it more impressive). What a great year for country women. If only "Die From a Broken Heart" could get a HAC push or something. I'm sure the remix helped out in some way, but Charlie Puth isn't exactly Justin Bieber for the pop formats. The last big airplay hit of his own was 2-3 years ago now -- his recent solo singles have all barely done anything. "I Hope" was carried to success on the strength of the song itself not the artists involved. I Hope is the kind of song that would have been a hit regardless of who sang it. I don't like Gabby Barrett, but it is a good song. And Charlie Puth is a much bigger star than she is. He is professionally trained and has a degree from the Berklee College of Music in music production and engineering. I don't know if Gabby even finished high school. Was a teenage bride and then got knocked up soon after that.
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Post by jab820 on Nov 18, 2020 23:47:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure either of the last two posts ought to be here at all. Most especially the one right above mine. While I'm not surprised it happened in the Gabby Barrett thread... can Moderators look at this?
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Post by jab820 on Nov 19, 2020 19:53:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure either of the last two posts ought to be here at all. Most especially the one right above mine. While I'm not surprised it happened in the Gabby Barrett thread... can Moderators look at this? For the record the post "above mine" that I was referring to is gone. I will also comment that commenting on an artist's education as a form of criticism is a) null, we all know most musicians did not go to college, it does not matter, and b) often done to question and undermine the success of women artists or artists of color. "Got knocked up" is also a blatantly sexist term. Moving on...
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Post by thesurf on Nov 19, 2020 21:02:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure either of the last two posts ought to be here at all. Most especially the one right above mine. While I'm not surprised it happened in the Gabby Barrett thread... can Moderators look at this? For the record the post "above mine" that I was referring to is gone. I will also comment that commenting on an artist's education as a form of criticism is a) null, we all know most musicians did not go to college, it does not matter, and b) often done to question and undermine the success of women artists or artists of color. "Got knocked up" is also a blatantly sexist term. Moving on... I was making the point that Charlie Puth is not just some hack that he has been portrayed here. He is professionally trained, has a degree from the Berklee School of music - and is huge name in the industry. Why is that a bad thing? BTW, it's a stereotype that most musicians, women artists, artist of color aren't educated. Gabby didn't go to college, got married as a teenager, was pregnant soon after that. Those are all facts. And I said that I Hope is a good song.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 19, 2020 21:21:26 GMT -5
For the record the post "above mine" that I was referring to is gone. I will also comment that commenting on an artist's education as a form of criticism is a) null, we all know most musicians did not go to college, it does not matter, and b) often done to question and undermine the success of women artists or artists of color. "Got knocked up" is also a blatantly sexist term. Moving on... I was making the point that Charlie Puth is not just some hack that he has been portrayed here. He is professionally trained, has a degree from the Berklee School of music - and is huge name in the industry. Why is that a bad thing? BTW, it's a stereotype that most musicians, women artists, artist of color aren't educated. Gabby didn't go to college, got married as a teenager, was pregnant soon after that. Those are all facts. And I said that I Hope is a good song.
You quoted my post saying Charlie Puth hadn't had any major success of his own at radio in a few years, but that was just me presenting facts as well. I quite like Puth, but it is not as if Gabby Barrett collaborated with one of the current hottest things on the pop music scene for an easy hit (examples of such: Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Post Malone, etc.), and it is a fact that he had not been a force on the charts as of late. Regardless of Puth's background in music, people are free to dislike him, just as you and I are entitled to enjoy his music. This hostile defense of Puth coupled with potshots at Gabby Barrett's backstory were totally unnecessary.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 19, 2020 21:36:54 GMT -5
For the record the post "above mine" that I was referring to is gone. I will also comment that commenting on an artist's education as a form of criticism is a) null, we all know most musicians did not go to college, it does not matter, and b) often done to question and undermine the success of women artists or artists of color. "Got knocked up" is also a blatantly sexist term. Moving on... I was making the point that Charlie Puth is not just some hack that he has been portrayed here. He is professionally trained, has a degree from the Berklee School of music - and is huge name in the industry. Why is that a bad thing? BTW, it's a stereotype that most musicians, women artists, artist of color aren't educated. Gabby didn't go to college, got married as a teenager, was pregnant soon after that. Those are all facts. And I said that I Hope is a good song.
I think you know that nobody's saying it's a bad thing that you are endorsing Charlie's musical training The bad thing is that you sound ignorant at best when belittling Gabby's success because of a perceived lack of education that you don't even know anything about (since you admitted you "don't know" if Gabby finished high school). If you don't know it, why use it in an argument as if it has any validity whatsoever? And then there's the fact that you're criticizing her for getting married as a teenager, getting knocked up soon after, etc... You make it sound like she got pregnant and dropped out of high school at the age of 15 or something. In fact, she got married at like 19 and 3/4, nearly 20 years old. Got "knocked up" by her lawfully wedded husband, while happily married. She's going to be 21 or nearly there by the time her baby comes. There is literally nothing weird about that. The "bad thing" is that you sound sexist af when you try to hold those things against her. There is plenty to criticize Gabby for, I'm sure. Her Twitter follows speak volumes imo. But to criticize her for getting married as an adult, getting pregnant while legally and happily married, etc. is sexist, plain and simple.
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Post by thesurf on Nov 19, 2020 22:23:04 GMT -5
I was making the point that Charlie Puth is not just some hack that he has been portrayed here. He is professionally trained, has a degree from the Berklee School of music - and is huge name in the industry. Why is that a bad thing? BTW, it's a stereotype that most musicians, women artists, artist of color aren't educated. Gabby didn't go to college, got married as a teenager, was pregnant soon after that. Those are all facts. And I said that I Hope is a good song.
I think you know that nobody's saying it's a bad thing that you are endorsing Charlie's musical training The bad thing is that you sound ignorant at best when belittling Gabby's success because of a perceived lack of education that you don't even know anything about (since you admitted you "don't know" if Gabby finished high school). If you don't know it, why use it in an argument as if it has any validity whatsoever? And then there's the fact that you're criticizing her for getting married as a teenager, getting knocked up soon after, etc... You make it sound like she got pregnant and dropped out of high school at the age of 15 or something. In fact, she got married at like 19 and 3/4, nearly 20 years old. Got "knocked up" by her lawfully wedded husband, while happily married. She's going to be 21 or nearly there by the time her baby comes. There is literally nothing weird about that. The "bad thing" is that you sound sexist af when you try to hold those things against her. There is plenty to criticize Gabby for, I'm sure. Her Twitter follows speak volumes imo. But to criticize her for getting married as an adult, getting pregnant while legally and happily married, etc. is sexist, plain and simple. Gabby did go not to college - that's a fact. I question she even finished high school - considering she can barely write a coherent sentence. She did marry as a teenager and got pregnant soon after that - all facts. I never said anything about it being illegal, and even if it was, who cares. You are twisting and deflecting. And it is a fact that in this day and age most women do have higher education. And most do not marry as teenagers or have kids that young. Carrie didn't marry until her late 20's, didn't have kids until her 30's. Even after all the success after Idol, she went back and completed her Bachelors degree. That's empowerment!
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Post by thesurf on Nov 19, 2020 22:33:20 GMT -5
I was making the point that Charlie Puth is not just some hack that he has been portrayed here. He is professionally trained, has a degree from the Berklee School of music - and is huge name in the industry. Why is that a bad thing? BTW, it's a stereotype that most musicians, women artists, artist of color aren't educated. Gabby didn't go to college, got married as a teenager, was pregnant soon after that. Those are all facts. And I said that I Hope is a good song.
You quoted my post saying Charlie Puth hadn't had any major success of his own at radio in a few years, but that was just me presenting facts as well. I quite like Puth, but it is not as if Gabby Barrett collaborated with one of the current hottest things on the pop music scene for an easy hit (examples of such: Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Post Malone, etc.), and it is a fact that he had not been a force on the charts as of late. Regardless of Puth's background in music, people are free to dislike him, just as you and I are entitled to enjoy his music. This hostile defense of Puth coupled with potshots at Gabby Barrett's backstory were totally unnecessary. Charlie Puth is still a much bigger star than Gabby Barrett - hardly the hack that he has been portrayed here. Barrett needs to check herself. The industry is filled with singers who had a hit song or two - than faded away.
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Post by jessy on Nov 19, 2020 22:36:08 GMT -5
Gabby will likely have a second #1 soon. Perhaps she’s not a star yet. But she’s off to a good start
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 19, 2020 22:36:52 GMT -5
I think you know that nobody's saying it's a bad thing that you are endorsing Charlie's musical training The bad thing is that you sound ignorant at best when belittling Gabby's success because of a perceived lack of education that you don't even know anything about (since you admitted you "don't know" if Gabby finished high school). If you don't know it, why use it in an argument as if it has any validity whatsoever? And then there's the fact that you're criticizing her for getting married as a teenager, getting knocked up soon after, etc... You make it sound like she got pregnant and dropped out of high school at the age of 15 or something. In fact, she got married at like 19 and 3/4, nearly 20 years old. Got "knocked up" by her lawfully wedded husband, while happily married. She's going to be 21 or nearly there by the time her baby comes. There is literally nothing weird about that. The "bad thing" is that you sound sexist af when you try to hold those things against her. There is plenty to criticize Gabby for, I'm sure. Her Twitter follows speak volumes imo. But to criticize her for getting married as an adult, getting pregnant while legally and happily married, etc. is sexist, plain and simple. Gabby did go not to college - that's a fact. I question she even finished high school - considering she can barely write a coherent sentence. She did marry as a teenager and got pregnant soon after that - all facts. I never said anything about it being illegal, and even if it was, who cares. You are twisting and deflecting. And it is a fact that in this day and age most women do have higher education. And most do not marry as teenagers or have kids that young. Carrie didn't marry until her late 20's, didn't have kids until her 30's. Even after all the success after Idol, she went back and completed her Bachelors degree. That's empowerment!
Nobody is disputing that you are using facts. But at the end of the day, you are using those facts to criticize an adult woman for getting married and having a child instead of going to college. That is why people are saying your opinions are sexist.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 19, 2020 22:44:03 GMT -5
You quoted my post saying Charlie Puth hadn't had any major success of his own at radio in a few years, but that was just me presenting facts as well. I quite like Puth, but it is not as if Gabby Barrett collaborated with one of the current hottest things on the pop music scene for an easy hit (examples of such: Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, Post Malone, etc.), and it is a fact that he had not been a force on the charts as of late. Regardless of Puth's background in music, people are free to dislike him, just as you and I are entitled to enjoy his music. This hostile defense of Puth coupled with potshots at Gabby Barrett's backstory were totally unnecessary. Charlie Puth is still a much bigger star than Gabby Barrett - hardly the hack that he has been portrayed here. Barrett needs to check herself. The industry is filled with singers who had a hit song or two - than faded away. And what does she need to check herself for exactly? Unless I missed it, I don't think anything has been said in this thread so far to indicate that Gabby is starting to get too full of herself
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 19, 2020 22:45:22 GMT -5
Burn this whole fucking thread to the ground. The amount of arguments this thread has caused is headache inducing
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