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Post by magik on Jul 26, 2019 16:09:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the unneeded sarcasm. Any serious answers? |
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Post by kacpi on Jul 26, 2019 16:21:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the unneeded sarcasm. Any serious answers? I think it has a great chance of going #1. It just topped the US iTunes chart and still is top 5 on Spotify and Apple Music. Its views on Youtube keep rising (almost 1 million daily) and the song's gaining a lot on the radio. OTR would have to significantly decrease though, which may happen in a few weeks. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 26, 2019 16:28:22 GMT -5
Could Lizzo's "Truth Hurts" be the next #1? I think it'll peak at #2 behind Senorita. |
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Post by spicymapping on Jul 26, 2019 17:05:33 GMT -5
Could Lizzo's "Truth Hurts" be the next #1? Next? No. Get to #1 in general, sure, but Senorita's already higher and gaining faster on radio with only minimal differences in their sales and streams momentum, not to mention how close bad guy is and the unstoppability of a debut from adele/rihanna/kendrick, all of which are possible on the horizon. |
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Post by Mayman on Jul 26, 2019 21:40:06 GMT -5
The Sicko Mode post has been completed. Now we wait.
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Post by 85la on Jul 27, 2019 1:22:54 GMT -5
Music chart fan thing. Most no one cares except music chart following geeks like us. It'll get some articles written about it on mainstream sites but yeah, most people won't know or care. People (of every age) who know I'm a chart geek always ask me what "the biggest hit ever" is. When I say "One Sweet Day" and "Despacito" they're surprised...which goes to show they never saw stories about them setting the record at the time. Well Despacito only tied the record, so I'm not too surprised about that because obviously something that only ties might not necessarily get as much attention as something that breaks it (actually I remember the most mainstream news Despacito got was non-Billboard related, when it broke the Youtube views record, at like 4 billion or something). As for One Sweet Day, that was a while ago, and I'm not sure how old the people were who asked you, but they might not have been around or old enough to remember back then. Actually I'm just curious if you remember how much mainstream coverage OSD got at the time it broke the record? I think OTR will actually get quite a bit of mainstream coverage, at least from entertainment-related outlets and social media and stuff, for the most weeks at #1 record definitely seems to be the most news-worthy achievement for a Billboard hit, and especially so because OTR is already such a huge cultural phenomenon that everyone knows about. |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jul 27, 2019 1:35:06 GMT -5
Music chart fan thing. Most no one cares except music chart following geeks like us. I think I saw something on CNN? And if it’s on CNN then it’ll probably get covered around the world in every country. The biggest newspaper in Hungary already did an article about it last week, and it hasn’t even broken the record yet. Yeah and I saw a few tweets go viral about it with 50k+ retweets and I know they all aren’t chart stans. |
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 27, 2019 2:08:56 GMT -5
It's one of those interesting factoids or news clips used for the "on the brighter side" segments that millions of people will find interesting when they read it but completely forget about even hours later. But that's the case for anything chart related. The only people that will actually be interested in hearing more about it past the headline will be stans and chart fanatics/music industry enthusiasts.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 27, 2019 7:13:36 GMT -5
Final Spotify numbers for the week:
Old Town Road - 10,558,278 (-1,961,732)
bad guy - 10,342,869 (-2,462,009)
Senorita - 10,105,425 (-1,010,233)
Goodbyes - 9,395,904 (-1,366,946)
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Post by kacpi on Jul 27, 2019 8:02:40 GMT -5
Final Spotify numbers for the week: Old Town Road - 10,558,278 (-1,961,732) bad guy - 10,342,869 (-2,462,009) Senorita - 10,105,425 (-1,010,233) Goodbyes - 9,395,904 (-1,366,946) Do you have a data for Truth Hurts? |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jul 27, 2019 8:07:48 GMT -5
^The Spotify site has a weekly sum dated July 25 (I imagine it's July 19-25), with "Truth Hurts" at 8,936,681.
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Post by deepston on Jul 27, 2019 9:14:28 GMT -5
Maybe God exists and, in order to prevent a 17th week at the top for that song, Billboard will consider getting out of the Hot 100 formula those unofficial videos, memes and all that garbage. Official remixes, no matter how many they are, seem fair for the chart game, but the memes or all that UGC....what the ****, people?! As much as you might dislike UGC, it is necessary in this current landscape. Memes and music have gone hand in hand since the early 2000s. UGC helps those meme songs like Harlem Shake and others to actually chart, which they should be if they're popular enough. Memes generate interest on the songs and that's the reason they get sold and streamed in the first place. Counting all these stupid videos is unfair imo because it's just passive listening. They give exposure to the song and if people like it, they will stream it. There's no need to count them. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jul 27, 2019 9:48:53 GMT -5
Fifth day of airplay tracking:
Billie Eilish - bad guy - 120.08M (+0.13)
Lizzo - Truth Hurts - 96.70M (+2.21)
Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Senorita - 83.90M (+3.22)
Lil Nas X - Old Town Road - 64.54M (-0.69)
55.54M away from Billie
32.16M away from Lizzo
19.36M away from Shawn/Camila
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 27, 2019 9:52:13 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/07/2
1(=) Khalid - Talk 176.50(+1.18) 2(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 156.71(-0.20)
3(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 138.79(-1.06)
4(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 120.08(+0.13)
5(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 119.00(+0.44)
6(=) Panic! At the Disco - Hey Look Ma, I Made It 115.33(+0.41)
7(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 96.70(+2.21)
8(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 92.68(-1.00) 9(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 83.90(+3.22)
10(+1) Dan + Shay - Speechless 67.03(+0.76)
14(+2) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 59.86(+0.85) 20(+2) Maren Morris - GIRL 57.58(+1.41) 28(+1) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 50.47(+0.81) 41(+3) Drake - Money In The Grave (feat. Rick Ross) 34.44(+0.82)
50(+6) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 31.32(+1.29)
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Post by tanooki on Jul 27, 2019 16:25:44 GMT -5
As much as you might dislike UGC, it is necessary in this current landscape. Memes and music have gone hand in hand since the early 2000s. UGC helps those meme songs like Harlem Shake and others to actually chart, which they should be if they're popular enough. Memes generate interest on the songs and that's the reason they get sold and streamed in the first place. Counting all these stupid videos is unfair imo because it's just passive listening. They give exposure to the song and if people like it, they will stream it. There's no need to count them. Its not passive listening, people actively seek this stuff out... |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 27, 2019 20:37:44 GMT -5
Memes generate interest on the songs and that's the reason they get sold and streamed in the first place. Counting all these stupid videos is unfair imo because it's just passive listening. They give exposure to the song and if people like it, they will stream it. There's no need to count them. Its not passive listening, people actively seek this stuff out... Yes, but I think their point is that they seek it out for the joke of it, not the song itself. The philosophical debate about how much the popularity of memes featuring songs should count toward measures of the song’s success probably doesn’t have a definitive right answer. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 27, 2019 20:39:21 GMT -5
Music chart fan thing. Most no one cares except music chart following geeks like us. It'll get some articles written about it on mainstream sites but yeah, most people won't know or care. People (of every age) who know I'm a chart geek always ask me what "the biggest hit ever" is. When I say "One Sweet Day" and "Despacito" they're surprised...which goes to show they never saw stories about them setting the record at the time. Or just don’t remember the story. |
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Post by tanooki on Jul 27, 2019 21:54:41 GMT -5
Its not passive listening, people actively seek this stuff out... Yes, but I think their point is that they seek it out for the joke of it, not the song itself. The philosophical debate about how much the popularity of memes featuring songs should count toward measures of the song’s success probably doesn’t have a definitive right answer. Usually, the song IS the meme tho. Only on certain occasions does the song take a backseat to the meme. |
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Jul 27, 2019 21:58:11 GMT -5
Why are people still streaming Sunflower? This song is half a year old. Post Malone song, in a movie, and catchy as hell I ain't mad on the longevity of Sunflower. It is absolutely catchy, Post and Swae did so well. But I don't mind much of "Sunflower" being on the soundtrack of Spiderman: Into The Spider-verse. |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 27, 2019 22:55:25 GMT -5
Yes, but I think their point is that they seek it out for the joke of it, not the song itself. The philosophical debate about how much the popularity of memes featuring songs should count toward measures of the song’s success probably doesn’t have a definitive right answer. Usually, the song IS the meme tho. Only on certain occasions does the song take a backseat to the meme. What did the Mannequin Challenge have to do with “Black Beatles?” And people certainly didn’t like “Harlem Shake” because of the song. I recognize that you can make this argument about just about any song’s popularity; none of them exist in a vacuum. I’m just sayin’, is all. |
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Post by tanooki on Jul 27, 2019 23:24:26 GMT -5
Usually, the song IS the meme tho. Only on certain occasions does the song take a backseat to the meme. What did the Mannequin Challenge have to do with “Black Beatles?” And people certainly didn’t like “Harlem Shake” because of the song. I recognize that you can make this argument about just about any song’s popularity; none of them exist in a vacuum. I’m just sayin’, is all. Black Beatles is the song I thought of when I said "Only on certain occasions does the song take a backseat to the meme." For Harlem Shake, the song is pivotal to the meme. You can't make a Harlem Shake video without the actual song and the meme itself doesn't work without the song. When it was a popular meme, you needed the song and people were actively listening to it, mostly on YouTube. |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 27, 2019 23:27:14 GMT -5
What did the Mannequin Challenge have to do with “Black Beatles?” And people certainly didn’t like “Harlem Shake” because of the song. I recognize that you can make this argument about just about any song’s popularity; none of them exist in a vacuum. I’m just sayin’, is all. Black Beatles is the song I thought of when I said "Only on certain occasions does the song take a backseat to the meme." For Harlem Shake, the song is pivotal to the meme. You can't make a Harlem Shake video without the actual song and the meme itself doesn't work without the song. When it was a popular meme, you needed the song and people were actively listening to it, mostly on YouTube. What you’re saying is absolutely true! But it could have been a different song, right? If the meme had started and taken off with, say, “Sandstorm,” then that would have been the #1 hit. Does that make sense? The song is pivotal to the meme, but it’s arbitrary and any song could have been pivotal to the meme under different circumstances. |
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Post by tanooki on Jul 27, 2019 23:34:22 GMT -5
Black Beatles is the song I thought of when I said "Only on certain occasions does the song take a backseat to the meme." For Harlem Shake, the song is pivotal to the meme. You can't make a Harlem Shake video without the actual song and the meme itself doesn't work without the song. When it was a popular meme, you needed the song and people were actively listening to it, mostly on YouTube. What you’re saying is absolutely true! But it could have been a different song, right? If the meme had started and taken off with, say, “Sandstorm,” then that would have been the #1 hit. Does that make sense? The song is pivotal to the meme, but it’s arbitrary and any song could have been pivotal to the meme under different circumstances. Well, the "drop" in the song is part of the meme, but I don't see how your argument fits the original point that meme songs are "passive streams." |
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 28, 2019 11:11:48 GMT -5
What you’re saying is absolutely true! But it could have been a different song, right? If the meme had started and taken off with, say, “Sandstorm,” then that would have been the #1 hit. Does that make sense? The song is pivotal to the meme, but it’s arbitrary and any song could have been pivotal to the meme under different circumstances. Well, the "drop" in the song is part of the meme, but I don't see how your argument fits the original point that meme songs are "passive streams." I never said “passive streams” lol... I was saying that someone else was misusing the term and speculated that they may have meant something closer to what I’m saying. |
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 28, 2019 11:12:34 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
July 27, 1959 (For the week ending August 1)
01 01 Lonely Boy - Paul Anka (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Battle Of New Orleans - Johnny Horton
03 03 Tiger - Fabian
04 04 Waterloo - Stonewall Jackson
05 09 Big Hunk O' Love - Elvis Presley
06 06 My Heart Is An Open Book - Carl Dobkins Jr.
07 16 There Goes My Baby - The Drifters
08 08 Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis
09 12 Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy
10 05 Personality - Lloyd Price & His Orchestra
August 1, 1964
01 02 A Hard Day's Night - The Beatles (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Rag Doll - The Four Seasons
03 06 The Little Old Lady (From Pasadena) - Jan & Dean
04 11 Everybody Loves Somebody - Dean Martin
05 18 Where Did Our Love Go - The Supremes
06 09 Wishin' & Hopin' - Dusty Springfield
07 08 Dang Me - Roger Miller
08 03 I Get Around - The Beach Boys
09 04 Memphis - Johnny Rivers
10 05 The Girl From Ipanema - Stan Getz & Astrud Gilberto
August 2, 1969
01 01 In The Year 2525 - Zager & Evans (4th of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Crystal Blue Persuasion - Tommy James & The Shondells
03 03 Spinning Wheel - Blood, Sweat & Tears
04 04 My Cherie Amour - Stevie Wonder
05 05 What Does It Take - Jr. Walker & The All Stars
06 15 Ruby Don't Take Your Love To Town - Kenny Rogers & The First Edition
07 13 Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond
08 28 Honky Tonk Woman - The Rolling Stones
09 09 Baby I Love You - Andy Kim
10 08 The Ballad Of John & Yoko - The Beatles
20 42 A Boy Named Sue - Johnny Cash
August 3, 1974
01 01 Annie's Song - John Denver (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me - Elton John
03 06 Feel Like Makin' Love - Roberta Flack
04 05 Rikki Don't Lose My Number - Steely Dan
05 14 The Night Chicago Died - Paper Lace
06 07 The Air That I Breathe - The Hollies
07 03 Rock & Roll Heaven - The Righteous Brothers
08 09 Please Come To Boston - Dave Loggins
09 10 Call On Me - Chicago
10 11 Sideshow - Blue Magic
August 4, 1979
01 01 Bad Girls - Donna Summer (4th of 5 weeks at #1)
02 03 Good Times - Chic
03 02 Ring My Bell - Anita Ward
04 10 The Main Event / Fight - Barbra Streisand
05 06 Gold - John Stewart
06 18 My Sharona - The Knack
07 05 Makin' It - David Naughton
08 09 When You're In Love With a Beautiful Woman - Dr. Hook
09 04 Hot Stuff - Donna Summer
10 07 I Want You To Want Me - Cheap Trick
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Post by spicymapping on Jul 28, 2019 11:22:40 GMT -5
Walk Me Home is a +.7 update away from staying on the chart and if it somehow does than i'll cry tears of joy
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Post by Mayman on Jul 28, 2019 11:25:34 GMT -5
Would be nice to see "If I Can't Have You" re-enter the top 10 soon.
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 28, 2019 11:31:43 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
August 4, 1984
01 01 When Doves Cry - Prince (5th and final week at #1)
02 02 Ghostbusters - Ray Parker Jr.
03 04 State Of Shock - The Jacksons w/Mick Jagger
04 03 Dancing In The Dark - Bruce Springsteen
05 09 What's Love Got To Do With It - Tina Turner
06 06 Infatuation - Rod Stewart
07 07 Sad Songs (Say So Much) - Elton John
08 15 Stuck On You - Lionel Richie
09 11 Breakin'...There's No Stopping Us - Ollie & Jerry
10 13 I Can Dream About You - Dan Hartman
August 5, 1989
01 02 Batdance - Prince (1st and only week at #1)
02 05 On Our Own - Bobby Brown
03 04 So Alive - Love And Rockets
04 10 Right Here Waiting - Richard Marx
05 01 Toy Soldiers - Martika
06 08 Once Bitten Twice Shy - Great White
07 07 Lay Your Hands On Me - Bon Jovi
08 09 I Like It - Dino
09 13 Cold Hearted - Paula Abdul
10 06 If You Don't Know Me By Now - Simply Red
August 6, 1994
01 02 Stay (I Missed You) - Lisa Loeb & Nine Stories (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 I Swear - All-4-One
03 03 Fantastic Voyage - Coolio
04 05 Can You Feel The Love Tonight - Elton John
05 04 Any Time, Any Place / And On And On - Janet Jackson
06 07 Don't Turn Around - Ace Of Base
07 06 Regulate - Warren G & Nate Dogg
08 10 Wild Night - John Mellencamp w/Me'Shell NdegeOcello
09 08 Funkdafied - Da Brat
10 09 Back And Forth - Aaliyah
July 31, 1999
01 03 Genie In a Bottle - Christina Aguilera (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 01 Wild Wild West - Will Smith feat. Dru Hill & Kool Moe Dee
03 02 Bills, Bills, Bills - Destiny's Child
04 04 Last Kiss - Pearl Jam
05 05 If You Had My Love - Jennifer Lopez
06 06 I Want It That Way - The Backstreet Boys
07 09 All Star - Smash Mouth
08 10 Where My Girls At? - 702
09 07 It's Not Right But It's Okay - Whitney Houston
10 08 Livin' La Vida Loca - Ricky Martin
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Post by cassiuscasanova on Jul 28, 2019 11:42:58 GMT -5
It wasn’t even close lol still a hundred point gap
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