53rd Annual CMA Awards

[StillTheSame]

A few comments:

I didn't have much faith in the voters to give EOTY to Carrie, but I'm still ticked off.

Brad was missed, but Carrie, Reba & Dolly were great.

The opening performance was awesome, & I'm so glad that Loretta was able to make it.

Was surprised that "Girl" didn't win Single or Song.

Loved the "Girl Crush" collaboration. Wish that LBT could've gotten a chance to perform their new song, though.

And if anyone cares, Jennifer Nettles went all the way off on country radio for their sexism with her red carpet outfit. Have a feeling some here might be interested.

[austin]

I love the Cry Pretty album and while I totally think she deserved it, I am not stunned considering she has never won it from the CMA and her singles this era so far are very low impact, but I totally thought it was going to Eric. I think any of us here, fan of his or not, would have been fine with Church winning as he too is overdue for this award and tours his ass off with the longest set in the genre.

Garth winning is absolutely a devastating result for a has-been who as mentioned before lip synced at this same awards show and hasn't had a big impact singles-wise in some time.

[carrieidol1]

theboot.com/2019-cma-awards-entertainer-of-the-year-carrie-underwood-garth-brooks/

The 2019 CMA Awards stage could not have been more perfectly set for Carrie Underwood to be crowned Entertainer of the Year: After three hours of what largely felt like a true celebration of country music's women, and a night during which younger artists were getting their due, actor Reese Witherspoon opened the category envelope and ...

It was Garth Brooks' name coming out of Witherspoon's mouth.

The show ended rather abruptly from there, with Underwood and her co-hosts, Reba McEntire and Dolly Parton, simply wishing the crowd at Bridgestone Arena and viewers watching at home a good night. Online, though, fans were outraged, saying that Underwood was "robbed," and calling voters' decision "some major garbage."


Indeed, 2019 felt like Underwood's year to win CMA Entertainer of the Year, a victory that would have been her first in the category and the first for a female artist since 2011. Miranda Lambert and Runaway June, among others, were stumping for her. In an informal poll of artists conducted by Taste of Country in the days leading up to Wednesday night's (Nov. 13) ceremony, Underwood garnered 33 percent of the vote (second to Eric Church, who earned 44 percent; Brooks came in third, well behind them both, with 14 percent). And yet ...

On Twitter, up-and-coming artist Adam Hambrick (who was "pulling hard" for Church to win) tried to offer some perspective: "The biggest response in the arena last night was during the commercial break when people saw Garth walk onto the stage," Hambrick shared. "He still has that effect on people. He’s still selling out stadiums on multiple nights in a few minutes. He’s somehow still a cultural phenomenon.

"I still think Church or Carrie should’ve won," he added. "but let’s not act like what Garth does doesn’t still matter or that he didn’t work for it or whatever. That’s silly."

Plenty of artists will say that it's an honor simply to be nominated at an event like the CMAs; after all, even a nomination means your work is the cream of the country music crop. All five 2019 CMA Entertainer of the Year nominees (Brooks, Church, Chris Stapleton, Keith Urban and Underwood) put out great music, sell out tours and will leave an incredible legacy. But Brooks' category victory -- his third in four years, and his seventh overall -- makes plain two major flaws within the country music industry.

[carrieidol1]

Nov 14, 2019 11:34:08 GMT -5 14887fan said:

“The fact that it’s number seven and the fact that it came on the tribute to women night, being married to one of the greatest female singers ever, being the father of three daughters...this is very special.” -Garth Brooks, Entertainment Tonight

Uncomfortably tone deaf.

AKA: "I'm married to a woman and have three daughters so I deserve it... seven times over".

f**k off, Garth.

[brinkeronline]

I mean, Loretta won entertainer at about 40 years old, so there's hope for the next couple years for Carrie?

All other female winners were in their late 20s, very early 30s (except Taylor).

[jenglisbe]

Nov 14, 2019 11:47:09 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

theboot.com/2019-cma-awards-entertainer-of-the-year-carrie-underwood-garth-brooks/

The 2019 CMA Awards stage could not have been more perfectly set for Carrie Underwood to be crowned Entertainer of the Year: After three hours of what largely felt like a true celebration of country music's women, and a night during which younger artists were getting their due, actor Reese Witherspoon opened the category envelope and ...

It was Garth Brooks' name coming out of Witherspoon's mouth.

The show ended rather abruptly from there, with Underwood and her co-hosts, Reba McEntire and Dolly Parton, simply wishing the crowd at Bridgestone Arena and viewers watching at home a good night. Online, though, fans were outraged, saying that Underwood was "robbed," and calling voters' decision "some major garbage."


Indeed, 2019 felt like Underwood's year to win CMA Entertainer of the Year, a victory that would have been her first in the category and the first for a female artist since 2011. Miranda Lambert and Runaway June, among others, were stumping for her. In an informal poll of artists conducted by Taste of Country in the days leading up to Wednesday night's (Nov. 13) ceremony, Underwood garnered 33 percent of the vote (second to Eric Church, who earned 44 percent; Brooks came in third, well behind them both, with 14 percent). And yet ...

On Twitter, up-and-coming artist Adam Hambrick (who was "pulling hard" for Church to win) tried to offer some perspective: "The biggest response in the arena last night was during the commercial break when people saw Garth walk onto the stage," Hambrick shared. "He still has that effect on people. He’s still selling out stadiums on multiple nights in a few minutes. He’s somehow still a cultural phenomenon.

"I still think Church or Carrie should’ve won," he added. "but let’s not act like what Garth does doesn’t still matter or that he didn’t work for it or whatever. That’s silly."

Plenty of artists will say that it's an honor simply to be nominated at an event like the CMAs; after all, even a nomination means your work is the cream of the country music crop. All five 2019 CMA Entertainer of the Year nominees (Brooks, Church, Chris Stapleton, Keith Urban and Underwood) put out great music, sell out tours and will leave an incredible legacy. But Brooks' category victory -- his third in four years, and his seventh overall -- makes plain two major flaws within the country music industry.

In re: to Adam, Garth wasn’t selling out stadiums night after night during this eligibility year, though. Irrelevant point.

[Sugar Rush]

Nov 14, 2019 11:34:42 GMT -5 StillTheSame said:

A few comments:

I didn't have much faith in the voters to give EOTY to Carrie, but I'm still ticked off.

Brad was missed, but Carrie, Reba & Dolly were great.

The opening performance was awesome, & I'm so glad that Loretta was able to make it.

Was surprised that "Girl" didn't win Single or Song.

Loved the "Girl Crush" collaboration. Wish that LBT could've gotten a chance to perform their new song, though.

And if anyone cares, Jennifer Nettles went all the way off on country radio for their sexism with her red carpet outfit. Have a feeling some here might be interested.

Outside Kacey winning female vocalist of the year, finally, I think that was my favourite thing. She went balls out, and the sad thing is nobody can be upset with her for her vulgarity because new women artist are literally drowning among a sea of white guys with guitars who all sound the same. (Really, the only 'unique' new male artist to come out recently is Luke Combs')

[stanches2318]

Nov 14, 2019 14:01:25 GMT -5 Sugar Rush said:

Nov 14, 2019 11:34:42 GMT -5 StillTheSame said:

A few comments:

I didn't have much faith in the voters to give EOTY to Carrie, but I'm still ticked off.

Brad was missed, but Carrie, Reba & Dolly were great.

The opening performance was awesome, & I'm so glad that Loretta was able to make it.

Was surprised that "Girl" didn't win Single or Song.

Loved the "Girl Crush" collaboration. Wish that LBT could've gotten a chance to perform their new song, though.

And if anyone cares, Jennifer Nettles went all the way off on country radio for their sexism with her red carpet outfit. Have a feeling some here might be interested.

Outside Kacey winning female vocalist of the year, finally, I think that was my favourite thing. She went balls out, and the sad thing is nobody can be upset with her for her vulgarity because new women artist are literally drowning among a sea of white guys with guitars who all sound the same. (Really, the only 'unique' new male artist to come out recently is Luke Combs')

What was up with Lambert's face after Kacey won female. It didn't look promising.

[carrieidol1]

Nov 14, 2019 13:00:26 GMT -5 brinkeronline said:

I mean, Loretta won entertainer at about 40 years old, so there's hope for the next couple years for Carrie?

All other female winners were in their late 20s, very early 30s (except Taylor).

Carrie certainly isn't done doing major tours and the whole shebang, it's just hard to imagine her ever winning if she couldn't get the votes this year. They pushed crazy hard for this and Carrie did absolutely everything she could career wise; not to mention the whole hosting/female theme thing. If she was ever going to win, this year was it. She could come back with the most successful album and tour of her career, but I don't know that it would make a difference, she had more support than ever it seemed and still lost. As much as I want to believe it's possible, at this point it would take a miracle. She isn't getting any younger and her radio dominance is fading. She is at the peak of her career now in terms of being an "entertainer", and I think she's still got a few years left, but as the years go by it will only get harder (sexism, ageism, rising superstars - Combs, Morris, Rhett, etc), and of course she isn't the only one waiting; Church, Bentley, and Stapleton are all in the similar boat one way or another... In any case, only the future will tell, but I am no longer hopeful that it will ever happen.


Watch, a woman will win next year and it won't be Carrie.

[Troublemaker]

Nov 14, 2019 14:28:51 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Watch, a woman will win next year and it won't be Carrie.

That’s the sad part of this situation. As much as I wanted Carrie to win, I don’t want someone who has done half of what Carrie has done to win.
It's almost like voters have an issue with voting for Carrie. 

[Sugar Rush]

Nov 14, 2019 14:36:25 GMT -5 Troublemaker said:

Nov 14, 2019 14:28:51 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Watch, a woman will win next year and it won't be Carrie.

That’s the sad part of this situation. As much as I wanted Carrie to win, I don’t want someone who has done half of what Carrie has done to win.
It's almost like voters have an issue with voting for Carrie. 

Silly, Miranda is already destined to sweep every category next year (love Miranda, she jus hasn’t accomplished 1/2 as much as Carrie).

Knowing the CMAs, they probably couldn’t reward Carrie EoTY before rewarding their absolute favourite living female artist of all time.

[loveofmusic]

Nov 14, 2019 14:36:25 GMT -5 Troublemaker said:

Nov 14, 2019 14:28:51 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Watch, a woman will win next year and it won't be Carrie.

That’s the sad part of this situation. As much as I wanted Carrie to win, I don’t want someone who has done half of what Carrie has done to win.
It's almost like voters have an issue with voting for Carrie. 

On Carrie's Cry Pretty album thread, there's a post that talks about how Hunter Hayes said in the past that Carrie has her fair share of haters & people who love her. The same post also thought someone (possibly windmills?) stated that there isn't as much respect with Carrie as with some other artists.

Is this a big part of the issue? If she is somewhat polarizing to voters, I'm not sure if she can change that enough for voters to eventually award her.

[carrieidol1]

Honestly, I don't think it's "respect". Most in the genre know how hard Carrie works are what her contributions are. It comes down to timing, being against Garth in a category which he dominates, and fans continually counting him out using logic, which clearly doesn't work when predicting CMAs - it never has, but last night made that glaringly obvious.

[14887fan]

Nov 14, 2019 14:53:10 GMT -5 Sugar Rush said:

Nov 14, 2019 14:36:25 GMT -5 Troublemaker said:

That’s the sad part of this situation. As much as I wanted Carrie to win, I don’t want someone who has done half of what Carrie has done to win.
It's almost like voters have an issue with voting for Carrie. 

Silly, Miranda is already destined to sweep every category next year (love Miranda, she jus hasn’t accomplished 1/2 as much as Carrie).

Knowing the CMAs, they probably couldn’t reward Carrie EoTY before rewarding their absolute favourite living female artist of all time.

I know Carrie stans *love* turning things into a pissing match (esp. when bringing in unnecessary comparisons to Lambert), but let’s not. The majority are in agreement that CU was unjustly shut out last night; no need to start projecting anger on next year’s possible outcomes.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 14, 2019 15:04:32 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Honestly, I don't think it's "respect". Most in the genre know how hard Carrie works are what her contributions are. It comes down to timing, being against Garth in a category which he dominates, and fans continually counting him out using logic, which clearly doesn't work when predicting CMAs - it never has, but last night made that glaringly obvious.

Carrie has to fight to even get nominated in EOTY, so let’s not act like this was a random loss.

I’ve heard a theory some of it has to do with her open support of LGBTQ community.

[14887fan]

Nov 14, 2019 15:11:26 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 14, 2019 15:04:32 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Honestly, I don't think it's "respect". Most in the genre know how hard Carrie works are what her contributions are. It comes down to timing, being against Garth in a category which he dominates, and fans continually counting him out using logic, which clearly doesn't work when predicting CMAs - it never has, but last night made that glaringly obvious.

Carrie has to fight to even get nominated in EOTY, so let’s not act like this was a random loss.

I’ve heard a theory some of it has to do with her open support of LGBTQ community.

I have a difficult time buying that theory when they awarded two openly queer artists last night, one of whom is also a person of color.

[carrieidol1]

Nov 14, 2019 15:11:26 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 14, 2019 15:04:32 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Honestly, I don't think it's "respect". Most in the genre know how hard Carrie works are what her contributions are. It comes down to timing, being against Garth in a category which he dominates, and fans continually counting him out using logic, which clearly doesn't work when predicting CMAs - it never has, but last night made that glaringly obvious.

Carrie has to fight to even get nominated in EOTY, so let’s not act like this was a random loss.

I’ve heard a theory some of it has to do with her open support of LGBTQ community.

But they awarded a gay black man and a lesbian last night, so that literally cannot be it.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 14, 2019 15:14:21 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Nov 14, 2019 15:11:26 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Carrie has to fight to even get nominated in EOTY, so let’s not act like this was a random loss.

I’ve heard a theory some of it has to do with her open support of LGBTQ community.

But they awarded a gay black man and a lesbian last night, so that literally cannot be it.

Sure, but those could also be one offs. I mean, there are people who say because we’ve had a black President in the U.S. racism clearly is no longer an issue.
carrieidol1

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TIL Lil Nas X is gay.

[carrieidol1]

Nov 14, 2019 15:29:13 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 14, 2019 15:14:21 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

But they awarded a gay black man and a lesbian last night, so that literally cannot be it.

Sure, but those could also be one offs. I mean, there are people who say because we’ve had a black President in the U.S. racism clearly is no longer an issue.
carrieidol1

Fair enough, but the same voters voted for two LGBTQ people. So to not vote for Carrie because she openly supports equality doesn’t add up. I don’t think it’s anything personal like that... Just timing and circumstantial things like being nominated against the king of the category (who said last night “7 is my number” so he wanted it) - whatever the fuck that means?...

[jenglisbe]

[liza]

Nov 14, 2019 11:34:08 GMT -5 14887fan said:

“The fact that it’s number seven and the fact that it came on the tribute to women night, being married to one of the greatest female singers ever, being the father of three daughters...this is very special.” -Garth Brooks, Entertainment Tonight

Uncomfortably tone deaf.

He couldn't possibly have expected to win because nobody in the world has ever made such a bad statement.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 14, 2019 17:01:39 GMT -5 liza said:

Nov 14, 2019 11:34:08 GMT -5 14887fan said:

“The fact that it’s number seven and the fact that it came on the tribute to women night, being married to one of the greatest female singers ever, being the father of three daughters...this is very special.” -Garth Brooks, Entertainment Tonight

Uncomfortably tone deaf.

He couldn't possibly have expected to win because nobody in the world has ever made such a bad statement.

Speaking of, I am so tired of the “I have a wife/daughters” line. For one, you shouldn’t need a daughter to know to respect and value women as equals/humans. For another, having them doesn’t automatically mean you aren’t sexist. Look at Trump.

[carrieidol1]

Watching this performance back, I paid close attention to the audience. The producers panned to primarily women in the audience, but if you look around and behind them, you’ll find an overwhelming amount of unamused male faces. This is why Carrie lost. Plain and simple.


youtu.be/zPacGAykVQg

[bornfearless2000]

youtu.be/zh-2kK_9-OE

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Nov 14, 2019 17:30:17 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Watching this performance back, I paid close attention to the audience. The producers panned to primarily women in the audience, but if you look around and behind them, you’ll find an overwhelming amount of unamused male faces. This is why Carrie lost. Plain and simple.


youtu.be/zPacGAykVQg

I didn’t think Keith Urban or Michael Ray looked bored—the latter was even singing along! 😃

[carrieidol1]

Nov 14, 2019 17:51:10 GMT -5 @stephanie said:

Nov 14, 2019 17:30:17 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Watching this performance back, I paid close attention to the audience. The producers panned to primarily women in the audience, but if you look around and behind them, you’ll find an overwhelming amount of unamused male faces. This is why Carrie lost. Plain and simple.


youtu.be/zPacGAykVQg

I didn’t think Keith Urban or Michael Ray looked bored—the latter was even singing along! 😃

With a few exceptions and I wasn’t referring to the artists as much as the unknowns around and behind them. Likely CMA members but just not known in the public eye.

[desertfloods]

Nov 14, 2019 17:35:19 GMT -5 bornfearless2000 said:

youtu.be/zh-2kK_9-OE

He nailed it! 100% true that to people outside of the country world, it seems that the women are the more successful ones. Shockingly isn't true the moment you take a close look inside the closed-minded country bubble.

And I love the honest reactions of Huh Garth is still active?!

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Nov 14, 2019 17:54:52 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Nov 14, 2019 17:51:10 GMT -5 @stephanie said:

I didn’t think Keith Urban or Michael Ray looked bored—the latter was even singing along! 😃

With a few exceptions and I wasn’t referring to the artists as much as the unknowns around and behind them. Likely CMA members but just not known in the public eye.

Yes, I definitely noticed that too. Some plain looked like they didn’t want to be there.

[countryisking]

Nov 14, 2019 17:30:17 GMT -5 carrieidol1 said:

Watching this performance back, I paid close attention to the audience. The producers panned to primarily women in the audience, but if you look around and behind them, you’ll find an overwhelming amount of unamused male faces. This is why Carrie lost. Plain and simple.


youtu.be/zPacGAykVQg

I don’t think so. There were numerous males enjoying that performance. There were also numerous people who looked unamused during other performances throughout the night.

Carrie lost because the CMA loves Garth and he campaigned hard. I think everybody agrees he should NOT have won but he also won over 3 other more deserving males. The gender bias plays no part in him winning or not. Plus, Maren and Jenee won in their categories.

The problem with EOTY is that they voted Garth, not that they didn’t vote Carrie. To me, Eric Church had just as deserving a year as Carrie and it’s equally frustrating he lost too. Now considering the show last night honored women so well, it would have been great to see Carrie win it of course. At the end of the day, we all agree CMA blew it big time. But random dudes in the audience have nothing to do with why.