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Post by thewp on Aug 28, 2019 13:13:55 GMT -5
"Burning Man" was nominated last year in the Event Category and lost to Kenny Chesney and David Lee Murphy's "Everything's Gonna Be Alright". Since it was nominated last year, it was ineligible for the category this year (pretty sure without digging into my copy of the voting rules).
Tequila is nominated for Song of the Year for a second year in a row (they lost to 'Broken Halos' last year). CMA rules make no sense The billboard surprise/ snub article mentioned this and the rules. It is kinda crappy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 13:27:23 GMT -5
As long as album doesn’t go to center point road or dan + shay, I’m fine I don't think you have to worry about that. Those two probably have the least shot at winning, especially Rhett. I feel that Maren Morris is probably the favorite with Carrie and Eric not too far off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 13:31:29 GMT -5
I hope Carrie wins Entertainer of The Year, I feel she's earned it this year the most.
Wow at Old Town Road getting in, that's big progress for this award show.
Good nominees overall. Can't wait to see the show.
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Post by collinkottke on Aug 28, 2019 14:06:59 GMT -5
"Burning Man" was nominated last year in the Event Category and lost to Kenny Chesney and David Lee Murphy's "Everything's Gonna Be Alright". Since it was nominated last year, it was ineligible for the category this year (pretty sure without digging into my copy of the voting rules).
Tequila is nominated for Song of the Year for a second year in a row (they lost to 'Broken Halos' last year). CMA rules make no sense Musical Event is based on release date. Song of the Year is based on chart positioning during the eligibility period. MUSICAL EVENT OF THE YEAR
This Award goes to each artist and producer. An event is defined as a collaboration of two or more people either or all of whom are known primarily as a Country artist. They must have performed together, as a unit, on a Country single or Country album initially released domestically during the eligibility period with each artist prominently featured and credited on the initial recording as a collaboration. Live performance events and background vocals are not eligible. SONG OF THE YEAR This Award goes to the songwriter(s) and is for artistic achievement in songwriting. Any Country Music song with original words and music is eligible based upon the song's Country singles chart activity during the eligibility period. In this category, the Second Ballot will contain the eligible nominations from the First Ballot and the Top 5 songs from the combined tabulation of the Country Singles Charts from Billboard’s Country Airplay Chart, Billboard’s Hot Country Songs Chart, and Country Aircheck Chart. The 2017 Winner is ineligible for nomination in 2018.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 28, 2019 14:07:53 GMT -5
Album will likely be a three-way-race between Maren, Eric, and D+S. Maren’s output clearly resonated w/ voters this year, as she’s leading the whole pack by a significant margin. D+S have massive inside support by the voting community, and this album has been huge for them. It’s home to some of the year’s biggest hits. And, because I think Carrie will win EOTY, they’ll want to ensure Eric is recognized in some capacity.
In my perfect world, things would play out like this: EOTY - Carrie FVOTY - Maren MVOTY - Thomas Album - Eric Duo - Dan + Shay New Artist - Ashley McBryde Song - “Rainbow” Single - “GIRL” (but it’ll probs be “God’s Country” or “Speechless”) Video - “Rainbow” Event - “Old Town Road” Musician - Jenee Fleenor
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Aug 28, 2019 14:17:24 GMT -5
Album will likely be a three-way-race between Maren, Eric, and D+S. Maren’s output clearly resonated w/ voters this year, as she’s leading the whole pack by a significant margin. D+S have massive inside support by the voting community, and this album has been huge for them. It’s home to some of the year’s biggest hits. And, because I think Carrie will win EOTY, they’ll want to ensure Eric is recognized in some capacity. In my perfect world, things would play out like this: EOTY - Carrie FVOTY - Maren MVOTY - Thomas Album - Eric Duo - Dan + Shay New Artist - Ashley McBryde Song - “Rainbow” Single - “GIRL” (but it’ll probs be “God’s Country” or “Speechless”) Video - “Rainbow” Event - “Old Town Road” Musician - Jenee Fleenor
They have a really good chance this year to spread the love among females. Finishing the night with 4 female winners would be awesome and a huge contrast to the past few years
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 28, 2019 14:42:20 GMT -5
Album will likely be a three-way-race between Maren, Eric, and D+S. Maren’s output clearly resonated w/ voters this year, as she’s leading the whole pack by a significant margin. D+S have massive inside support by the voting community, and this album has been huge for them. It’s home to some of the year’s biggest hits. And, because I think Carrie will win EOTY, they’ll want to ensure Eric is recognized in some capacity. In my perfect world, things would play out like this: EOTY - Carrie FVOTY - Maren MVOTY - Thomas Album - Eric Duo - Dan + Shay New Artist - Ashley McBryde Song - “Rainbow” Single - “GIRL” (but it’ll probs be “God’s Country” or “Speechless”) Video - “Rainbow” Event - “Old Town Road” Musician - Jenee Fleenor More or less how I’d like it to play out as well. I’d be fine with Eric taking entertainer as well but it does feel like Carrie’s time for sure. I’ll be submitting my votes soon and this should be what I follow 😁
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Post by bigd79 on Aug 28, 2019 18:08:40 GMT -5
Entertainer...a little surprised Keith got in over Thomas or Luke Combs. Same, although I guess it makes sense since he...toured and won it last year? IDK. I think Rhett earned it, and while I’m still in the “it’s-too-early-for-Combs” camp, I understand the case that could’ve been made. In any case, it just would’ve been nice to see some extra shake-up in there this year. Musical Event...OLD TOWN ROAD over Burning Man?!? come on CMA. I mean, it *was* the biggest song of the year, across all genres, and look at how cool it is to see an openly gay black man nominated for a CMA! That’s honestly incredible. Win or lose, that’s a huge step in the right direction. It didn't even occur to me when I was thinking about my predictions to include this one, but it makes total sense to me. Well, maybe the biggest rap/pop song, but most definitely not in the country genre BECAUSE ITS NOT A COUNTRY SONG! Definitely NOT a step in the right direction, as this actually a HUGE EMBARRASSMENT for the country genre that this trash of a song was even let to be eligible to be nominated. And then to make it to be a finalist? The CMA's should absolutely be ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES for allowing this travesty to take place. you know what this going to do, don't you? This is going to encourage future similar-ish songs and artists to put out more crap like OTR and feel like they have a chance at an award too. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR COUNTRY MUSIC....AT ALL. rant over.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Aug 28, 2019 18:39:23 GMT -5
*** Shot in the dark prediction, but calling it that Brad Paisley presents Entertainer of the Year ***
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Aug 28, 2019 18:39:53 GMT -5
Same, although I guess it makes sense since he...toured and won it last year? IDK. I think Rhett earned it, and while I’m still in the “it’s-too-early-for-Combs” camp, I understand the case that could’ve been made. In any case, it just would’ve been nice to see some extra shake-up in there this year. I mean, it *was* the biggest song of the year, across all genres, and look at how cool it is to see an openly gay black man nominated for a CMA! That’s honestly incredible. Win or lose, that’s a huge step in the right direction. It didn't even occur to me when I was thinking about my predictions to include this one, but it makes total sense to me. Well, maybe the biggest rap/pop song, but most definitely not in the country genre BECAUSE ITS NOT A COUNTRY SONG! Definitely NOT a step in the right direction, as this actually a HUGE EMBARRASSMENT for the country genre that this trash of a song was even let to be eligible to be nominated. And then to make it to be a finalist? The CMA's should absolutely be ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES for allowing this travesty to take place. you know what this going to do, don't you? This is going to encourage future similar-ish songs and artists to put out more crap like OTR and feel like they have a chance at an award too. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR COUNTRY MUSIC....AT ALL. rant over. To say this is a "huge embarrassment" and they should be "ashamed of themselves" is quite the reach... "Old Town Road" was without a doubt a huge event to the point that people who usually don't listen to hip hop/trap music, such as many country fans, knew about it and loved it. Even though it's not a country song in my eyes, I think the fact that so many people from different walks of life were able to enjoy it gives a lot of merit to its nomination. And lol at the bolded part, I don't think anyone is copying OTR to have a chance at winning a CMA award, there are countless better reasons why they would do that ($$$$$$$$).
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 28, 2019 19:05:53 GMT -5
*** Shot in the dark prediction, but calling it that Brad Paisley presents Entertainer of the Year *** Brad Paisley WILL figure prominently at the awards. You don't host them for a decade and then get quickly forgotten.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 28, 2019 19:06:22 GMT -5
Same, although I guess it makes sense since he...toured and won it last year? IDK. I think Rhett earned it, and while I’m still in the “it’s-too-early-for-Combs” camp, I understand the case that could’ve been made. In any case, it just would’ve been nice to see some extra shake-up in there this year. I mean, it *was* the biggest song of the year, across all genres, and look at how cool it is to see an openly gay black man nominated for a CMA! That’s honestly incredible. Win or lose, that’s a huge step in the right direction. It didn't even occur to me when I was thinking about my predictions to include this one, but it makes total sense to me. Well, maybe the biggest rap/pop song, but most definitely not in the country genre BECAUSE ITS NOT A COUNTRY SONG! Definitely NOT a step in the right direction, as this actually a HUGE EMBARRASSMENT for the country genre that this trash of a song was even let to be eligible to be nominated. And then to make it to be a finalist? The CMA's should absolutely be ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES for allowing this travesty to take place. you know what this going to do, don't you? This is going to encourage future similar-ish songs and artists to put out more crap like OTR and feel like they have a chance at an award too. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR COUNTRY MUSIC....AT ALL. rant over. A bad take.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 28, 2019 19:12:03 GMT -5
Old Town Road is too huge to be ignored. At least it wasn't nominated in the Single of the Year category. At least Lil Nas X did not get a New Artist nod. If any of that happened, I think it would be safe to say ALL of us would jump off the country bandwagon.
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Post by raylatch98 on Aug 28, 2019 19:14:10 GMT -5
Old Town Road is too huge to be ignored. At least it wasn't nominated in the Single of the Year category. At least Lil Nas X did not get a New Artist nod. If any of that happened, I think it would be safe to say ALL of us would jump off the country bandwagon. Speak for yourself, I wouldn't really care either way.
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Post by seak05 on Aug 28, 2019 19:23:57 GMT -5
I think you either qualify it as country, and then admit it's the biggest song of the year...or just say it's not country & doesn't qualify.
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Post by desertfloods on Aug 28, 2019 19:34:57 GMT -5
*** Shot in the dark prediction, but calling it that Brad Paisley presents Entertainer of the Year *** This would be the most ideal! (assuming Carrie wins)
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Post by straitouttanashville on Aug 28, 2019 20:16:13 GMT -5
Old Town Road is too huge to be ignored. At least it wasn't nominated in the Single of the Year category. At least Lil Nas X did not get a New Artist nod. If any of that happened, I think it would be safe to say ALL of us would jump off the country bandwagon. Speak for yourself, I wouldn't really care either way. I would because its not a song in the country genre. Pretty simple.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 28, 2019 21:37:09 GMT -5
Country purists continue to withhold this genre from ever becoming greater, or discovering even more potential.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 23:28:46 GMT -5
Country purists continue to withhold this genre from ever becoming greater, or discovering even more potential. After over a decade spent largely lurking this site, through many an album era and award season, this may be one of my favorite posts of all-time. Succinct, honest, and so damn sad.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Aug 29, 2019 0:18:43 GMT -5
I mean, nominating a joke song by a pop artist while ignoring actual black country artists is not a great look.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 29, 2019 1:48:16 GMT -5
I mean, nominating a joke song by a pop artist while ignoring actual black country artists is not a great look. I don’t see it as a joke song. I see it as the biggest song of the year, that also happens to contain country elements. BUT, you make an excellent point in that they do need to start acknowledging black country artists / other artists of color. Mickey Guyton, Rhiannon Giddens, Jimmie Allen, Priscilla Renea...they’re all ready.
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Post by bboat11 on Aug 29, 2019 2:17:17 GMT -5
I mean, nominating a joke song by a pop artist while ignoring actual black country artists is not a great look. I don’t see it as a joke song. I see it as the biggest song of the year, that also happens to contain country elements. BUT, you make an excellent point in that they do need to start acknowledging black country artists / other artists of color. Mickey Guyton, Rhiannon Giddens, Jimmie Allen, Priscilla Renea...they’re all ready. Didn't Little Nas X basically admit that he was just using the flawed methodology of the Hot Country Songs chart to troll the country charts, or was that just some clickbait idea that was going around? Or maybe I imagined it, lol. But if that's the case, it is absolutely a "joke song". That doesn't negate its popularity or multi-genre impact though!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 29, 2019 9:37:29 GMT -5
I don’t see it as a joke song. I see it as the biggest song of the year, that also happens to contain country elements. BUT, you make an excellent point in that they do need to start acknowledging black country artists / other artists of color. Mickey Guyton, Rhiannon Giddens, Jimmie Allen, Priscilla Renea...they’re all ready. Didn't Little Nas X basically admit that he was just using the flawed methodology of the Hot Country Songs chart to troll the country charts, or was that just some clickbait idea that was going around? Or maybe I imagined it, lol. But if that's the case, it is absolutely a "joke song". That doesn't negate its popularity or multi-genre impact though! Pretty sure he or his manager did just that. It's basically common knowledge at this point that he made an attempt to troll the country charts with iTunes labeling, not because Lil Nas X wanted to be a country rap artist. I can understand why it was nominated for the award because it's something that will create buzz, but it was rejected by country radio (rightfully so imo) and did little to nothing for the country genre. It'd be cool if we saw a gay black man nominated for a country music award for an actual legitimate country music performance. Slapping a banjo and Billy Ray Cyrus on a trap song about horseys isn't something that needed to be celebrated at the CMAs imo (Musical Event is one of the least important awards of the show though anyway lbr), and that's coming from someone who enjoyed "Old Town Road" for what it was.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 29, 2019 9:40:16 GMT -5
^ Huh. Had no idea about that info RE: OTR. Will read more into it. Thank you both!
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 29, 2019 10:13:17 GMT -5
Think about this, they had to nominate Lil Nas X. If they didn't people would complain that they nominated a pretty young white R&B/Pop (Bebe Rexha) (who is one of my favorites) last year, and not a Black rap artist like Lil Nas X. After this song, draw the line. Make a new rule that says no non labeled country artists will be nominated unless the song they sing on is a country artist labeled song with that non country artist joining in. That's my opinion.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 29, 2019 10:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by daddy on Aug 29, 2019 18:46:28 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see Carrie, Kacey and Maren all walk away with an award!
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Post by Sugar Rush on Aug 29, 2019 19:31:08 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see Carrie, Kacey and Maren all walk away with an award! Imagine if Carrie took Entertainer, Maren took album and Kacey took song? They could even live Kelsea the FVoTY and that’d make me happy.
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Post by bigd79 on Aug 29, 2019 20:48:07 GMT -5
Sorry, not sorry, country music should NEVER, EVER evolve into rap music. Y'all that actually think OTR deserves any kind of recognition in the country genre outta have your country fan cards taken away, cuz you obviously don't care about. If i wanted to hear rap music, i would listen to a rap channel.
OTR is about as deserving of a CMA Award as the heavy metal band Slayer.
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Post by recordyear on Aug 29, 2019 22:00:08 GMT -5
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