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Post by M1tchD on Jun 13, 2023 23:49:08 GMT -5
For anyone who has heard this on the radio - how do they introduce it? A new single, an album cut? Chatted about this with a friend I have whoβs a syndicated night host, hopefully this gives you at least a little bit of insight.
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Post by born on Jun 14, 2023 2:43:05 GMT -5
In my head, this and βAnti-Heroβ are pretty much in the same league. Itβs kind of a signature sound for her, this energetic, mid-tempo, heavy on the synths, pop track.
I also wanna say that I donβt think βCruel Summerβ wouldβve been as big of a hit in 2019, as it has the potential to be in 2023. The wait was long but I believe itβs going to be worth it. And Iβm elated, as itβs also one of my top 10 favorite songs from her ever.
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Post by π Eloquent β’ on Jun 14, 2023 4:25:40 GMT -5
I also wanna say that I donβt think βCruel Summerβ wouldβve been as big of a hit in 2019, as it has the potential to be in 2023. The wait was long but I believe itβs going to be worth it. And Iβm elated, as itβs also one of my top 10 favorite songs from her ever. I don't know what y'all hear, because some people were saying the same thing back then. "Cruel Summer" had huge hit single written on it from the get-go and even non-fans were saying it should've been released. If it's reputation since release and subsequent success afterward (and especially this year) is any indication, it's been a potential caged monster of a single since it made its way into that tracklist. If anything I think had it been released in 2019 I have no doubt it would've been another multi-week, multi-format #1 for her. Let's just hope it can reach its full potential now given it's 4 years old.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 14, 2023 6:39:49 GMT -5
#13 (+2) on US Spotify, which I believe is its peak
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 14, 2023 6:50:46 GMT -5
50 37 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 998 300 698 4.932
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Post by james518 on Jun 14, 2023 6:58:37 GMT -5
Can I ask why people keep saying things like Taylor must be fuming..? lol did I miss an interview, comment, etc.?
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Post by zdm1998 on Jun 14, 2023 7:08:45 GMT -5
Can I ask why people keep saying things like Taylor must be fuming..? lol did I miss an interview, comment, etc.? Because she is the one who has actively not put it out as a single. If she truly wanted it out Republic would've obliged. But she had other things she wanted to do; in summer 2020, when she originally was going to make it a single, she scraped it and put out folklore instead. Now, she is about to put out SN(TV) this summer and probably didn't want to take any attention away from that release, with no plans on releasing CS. But the people have decided that we will be blowing up CS whether she is on board or not lol.
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Post by samoπ¦ on Jun 14, 2023 7:22:04 GMT -5
i think part of it is how hard they've been pushing Karma, only for this to seriously compete with it without ever being made a single
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Post by NeRD on Jun 14, 2023 7:30:12 GMT -5
Doesn't look like this will impact Karma's journey to the summit of Pop radio so I'm good.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 14, 2023 7:37:00 GMT -5
I love that yesterdayβs update wasnβt a fluke, it actually gained more today! Hopefully after Karma gets to #1, it sinks like a rock and this will steal all of its spins
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Post by born on Jun 14, 2023 8:22:14 GMT -5
I don't know what y'all hear, because some people were saying the same thing back then. "Cruel Summer" had huge hit single written on it from the get-go and even non-fans were saying it should've been released. If it's reputation since release and subsequent success afterward (and especially this year) is any indication, it's been a potential caged monster of a single since it made its way into that tracklist. If anything I think had it been released in 2019 I have no doubt it would've been another multi-week, multi-format #1 for her. Let's just hope it can reach its full potential now given it's 4 years old. No need to do all this lol. I was here back then too and I was one of the people begging for this to be released. I just believe that the long build-up, the rise of Taylorβs popularity on the Internet to massive numbers, all combined with this iconic tour performance made the song an even bigger deal than it ever couldβve been. I know this wouldβve been a hit in 2019 as well but now itβs like a grenade ready to explode.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 8:22:48 GMT -5
Can I ask why people keep saying things like Taylor must be fuming..? lol did I miss an interview, comment, etc.? It's mostly just a joke. She pushed ME! and YNTCD during the Lover era when there were multiple songs that may have been better choices (not just Cruel Summer). It's not like she hates Cruel Summer or something, but its just interesting that the fans and now the general public are messing with her plans. She's very strategic about her career so its kind of funny how things are getting messed up a bit (in a good way). Karma is still rising on radio and Speak Now TV is coming soon.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 14, 2023 9:35:58 GMT -5
Thereβs no way Taylor can deny this any longer. Almost top 10 Spotify, taking off on radioβ¦ give the people what they want Blondie!
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Post by Ace on Jun 14, 2023 12:50:32 GMT -5
No need to do all this lol. I was here back then too and I was one of the people begging for this to be released. I just believe that the long build-up, the rise of Taylorβs popularity on the Internet to massive numbers, all combined with this iconic tour performance made the song an even bigger deal than it ever couldβve been. I know this wouldβve been a hit in 2019 as well but now itβs like a grenade ready to explode. 100%. The Lover campaign had lost a lot of steam after Lover the single. Between reputation and Lover she didn't have the massive momentum and goodwill she has now post folklore/evermore/Midnights, Anti-Hero smashing, and dominating the Billboard Hot 100 top 10. Songs weren't going viral and becoming smashes because of TikTok and the like as much as they do now. I think it might have done well, but with the tour hype and the aforementioned factors, it's in a much better spot to finally get the shine that it deserves.
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Post by zdm1998 on Jun 14, 2023 16:17:08 GMT -5
IMPACTS POP RADIO JUNE 20TH AS LOVERβS FIFTH SINGLE. JUST ANNOUNCED
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 14, 2023 16:18:26 GMT -5
At least she did one thing right.
I wonder if she has a video from 2019 in the vault she can release⦠at the very least hope we get a tour video.
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Post by rnb on Jun 14, 2023 16:21:17 GMT -5
finally!
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Post by nightshade on Jun 14, 2023 16:32:53 GMT -5
Pretty insane. Is she really going to have 3 different eras going at the same time?
I hope they hold off on Enchanted if it's to be a single at all.
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Post by franklin on Jun 14, 2023 16:38:20 GMT -5
Song of the summer
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 14, 2023 16:40:20 GMT -5
She could really help this explode more by even just tweeting/posting an Instagram story about it
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Post by sheerio on Jun 14, 2023 16:42:32 GMT -5
IT'S HAPPENING!!!! Wow, I really lost my hope for this being released as a single.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 14, 2023 16:46:13 GMT -5
I love y'all, but some of this stuff is completely illogical! I'll play though.
Yeah, Taylor wanted to suppress CS so much that she not only includes it on the tour, but also literally makes it the *first* full length track that kicks the audience into an even higher frenzy.
C'mon, have ppl really forgotten Genius Taylor? She must be absolutely thrilled that via CS, 'Lover' has both been revisited and discovered by a whole legion of fans!
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Post by sheerio on Jun 14, 2023 17:01:40 GMT -5
This recovers my hope for a Getaway Car single treatment or who knows, august?
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Post by enwhy on Jun 14, 2023 17:02:19 GMT -5
June 20 is interesting timing... summer starts on the 21st. I'm curious how long ago this was decided.
Also, do people think there's any way she would have time to film a MV for this? I know the tour most be absolutely exhausting but a video could easily launch this into the Top 20 at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 17:05:43 GMT -5
I think she will find time for one. Has she ever had a single that did not have a video? Even if it was just a tour video?
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Post by sheerio on Jun 14, 2023 17:08:54 GMT -5
I think she will find time for one. Has she ever had a single that did not have a video? Even if it was just a tour video? exile, betty, coney island,nbnc were all released as singles though exclusive to either alt or country radio. All of them never had a music video.
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Post by Choco on Jun 14, 2023 17:22:18 GMT -5
So, no single has gone to Pop without a video.
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Post by justlurkingaround on Jun 14, 2023 17:27:13 GMT -5
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Post by irice22 on Jun 14, 2023 17:32:23 GMT -5
So, no single has gone to Pop without a video. Message in a Bottle?
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Post by suburbandreams on Jun 14, 2023 17:37:08 GMT -5
So, no single has gone to Pop without a video. However, her music videos aren't doing great anymore (karma remix only has 18 million views on youtube) so I wouldn't be surprised if she skips creating one. But I think there is a good chance for a tour video. She released her tour video for red midway through the red tour.
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