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Post by haven on Aug 22, 2023 18:03:16 GMT -5
I think it's a bit silly to insist that doing the bare minimum in terms of promotion would have made the #1 peak feel inorganic. Then again, its just people are trying to find the positives in a bad situation, I can't really blame anyone for coping when we're all so invested.
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Post by Grün on Aug 22, 2023 18:29:23 GMT -5
I think Taylor doesn't want to overexpose herself here. I bet she has 9 million tricks up her sleeve for 1989 and plans to cash on that later.
TBH, I would rather have no video than a tour video. I am okay with the non-number one peak. Some of her biggest hits never hit the top.
Part of me wonders if I Can See You was supposed to be the big pop hit to tide us over, but Cruel Summer stopped that from happening.
By October, Cruel Summer should be done and she can focus on the rerecord
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Post by 85la on Aug 22, 2023 18:31:45 GMT -5
I get the argument for leaving the purity of the song as it is... but dropping a quick remix and live version could've gotten the job done and then would've been quickly forgotten without tarnishing the original. Yep, I agree with this, and this is exactly what happened with Kill Bill. Knowing her and her team, I think it's likely that they do care and have been planning to push this all along (there was her insta post on July 21 and Taylor Nation's on Aug 14 heavily hinting at a video or some type of remix or special release, and then the iTunes discount most recently), it's just that different wrenches were probably put in the plan (Aldean, Oliver Anthony, etc.), or possible delays with shooting the video, and that they aren't quite sure of the best time to release the remixes and whether to align it the same week as the video, etc. I still strongly feel something is coming, definitely by mid-September, but even if not, I'm still very happy with a #3 peak and this will surely go down as one of her classics
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2023 18:34:09 GMT -5
I don’t think a slight push (that’s all that is needed) to get to number one would impact her level of exposure at all. The GP doesn’t care about the Hot 100.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 22, 2023 19:35:13 GMT -5
I think Taylor doesn't want to overexpose herself here. I bet she has 9 million tricks up her sleeve for 1989 and plans to cash on that later. TBH, I would rather have no video than a tour video. I am okay with the non-number one peak. Some of her biggest hits never hit the top. Part of me wonders if I Can See You was supposed to be the big pop hit to tide us over, but Cruel Summer stopped that from happening. By October, Cruel Summer should be done and she can focus on the rerecord Yeah I think this is exactly it. She's been absolutely everywhere. We know she's very cognizant of overexposure when highly visible and when it's much too much (hence her touching on overexposure in the infamous Kanye call) and with Midnights, the tour, Speak Now (TV), and "Cruel Summer" now being this huge hit on its own kind of blindsiding them I don't think she wants to go all out atm, especially when I think she has more pushing planned with the vault tracks of 1989 than possoibly any other re-recording yet with the way she's spoke of them which I think is the biggest factor. Like who knows, we may see a hit or two off the 1989 (TV) era if they're as good as she alluded to them being. Personally, at first I kinda wanted a #1 peak, but as you, I understand why they're not going all in and I am really happy with the success its had all in all. A top 3 hit is fantastic, especially for a 4yo song.
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Post by leonagwen on Aug 22, 2023 22:34:03 GMT -5
How significant is a Billboard #1 in 2023? Rich Men North of Richmond is #1 on the Hot 100 this week but we all know that Cruel Summer is a bigger hit.Jungkook had a Billboard #1 a few weeks ago but still, Cruel Summer is a bigger hit.
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Post by Choco on Aug 22, 2023 22:52:53 GMT -5
I think it might be some combination of her wanting to rest a bit between tour dates, overexposure and probably little to no budget on the table to promote a four year old album when she has a new one coming soon.
It's a little sad because it would truly be full circle for Lover after being a relative non event back when it came out, but tbh it has already done amazingly well.
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Post by musiclife on Aug 22, 2023 23:06:05 GMT -5
4 years ago today we heard Cruel Summer for the first time.
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Post by Choco on Aug 22, 2023 23:07:01 GMT -5
Ah 2019... we weren't ready for what the next few years were going to bring.
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Post by Rhythm Nation on Aug 22, 2023 23:21:43 GMT -5
Another reason may be that she didn’t want to be part of the ongoing left / right culture wars, if right wing media saw her pulling tricks to dethrone Oliver?
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Aug 23, 2023 0:26:03 GMT -5
Another reason may be that she didn’t want to be part of the ongoing left / right culture wars, if right wing media saw her pulling tricks to dethrone Oliver? Taylor has never shied away from that. YNTCD and Only the Young say hello ;)
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Post by Future Captain on Aug 23, 2023 2:18:54 GMT -5
Geez, not even a tweet acknowledging Lover's birthday... I guess that's it then on the dream of a Lover #1.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 23, 2023 6:15:34 GMT -5
POP: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 16568 16521 47 49.853
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HOT AC: 2 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5962 5363 599 22.663
+43 Spins -77 Bullet -0.016 Audience
AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 769 569 200 4.747
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Post by deepston on Aug 23, 2023 14:02:00 GMT -5
This would have needed the bare minimum to reach #1. A couple of random remixes and an Instagram story would have probably sealed the deal. I think she might want to lay low until 1989 TV. Which is fine but then again, that album got its own flowers (and big ones) a decade ago 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by sheerio on Aug 23, 2023 14:08:14 GMT -5
Oh... Are we getting something?
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Post by Rhythm Nation on Aug 23, 2023 14:13:53 GMT -5
Don’t play with my emotions like this
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Post by imbuemyblue on Aug 23, 2023 14:20:11 GMT -5
Oh... Are we getting something? ] No :'(
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Post by Choco on Aug 23, 2023 16:26:22 GMT -5
If it's Taylor Nation and not taylorswift13 then it's probably nothing :(
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 18:25:04 GMT -5
The OG's, Taylor, Taylor Nation and Republic remember this embarrassment all too well No wonder they're scared to push it.
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Post by zdm1998 on Aug 23, 2023 19:22:00 GMT -5
I’m sorry but I find it incredibly weird that she will do over the top pushes for Willow to hit #1, but she has a actual organic hit on her hands and her team doesn’t lift a finger. Like, a basic tour music video would seal that deal and I don’t even feel like a MV is a huge ordeal to make it seem like she’s trying to hard, as most all of her singles have one.
This the same Taylor that released like 5+ Willow remixes a few years ago? (I’m not sure how many it was but I do remember it was an excessive amount.)
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Aug 23, 2023 19:22:46 GMT -5
With how well they handled ATW, I’m greatly disappointed in their performance here. Literally did NOTHING but send it to radio.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2023 19:27:26 GMT -5
I’m sorry but I find it incredibly weird that she will do over the top pushes for Willow to hit #1, but she has a actual organic hit on her hands and her team doesn’t lift a finger. Like, a basic tour music video would seal that deal and I don’t even feel like a MV is a huge ordeal to make it seem like she’s trying to hard, as most all of her singles have one. This the same Taylor that released like 5+ Willow remixes a few years ago? (I’m not sure how many it was but I do remember it was an excessive amount.) Yeah and she was dragged multiple times for being desperate. Maybe she's trying to avoid that? The tour video is definitely the bare minimum tho and there wouldn't be any "backlash" from that. Maybe there's an exclusivity deal for the eventual tour movie which prevents them from releasing it? Just a thought.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Aug 23, 2023 19:47:01 GMT -5
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Post by avamaxstan on Aug 24, 2023 5:05:17 GMT -5
I think it might be some combination of her wanting to rest a bit between tour dates, overexposure and probably little to no budget on the table to promote a four year old album when she has a new one coming soon. It's a little sad because it would truly be full circle for Lover after being a relative non event back when it came out, but tbh it has already done amazingly well. Dropping a tour video and remixes would all be handled by her team and doesn’t require Taylor to lift a finger. And LMAO at “little to no budget” let’s please be serious
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Post by fearlessarrow on Aug 24, 2023 5:17:30 GMT -5
POP: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 16533 16526 7 49.698
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HOT AC: 2 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5977 5489 488 22.670
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AC: 8 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 787 600 187 4.973
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 24, 2023 6:52:44 GMT -5
Man, some of y’all are really pressed in here. Phew.
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Post by • Господин Умљеновић • on Aug 24, 2023 8:10:58 GMT -5
I heard Cruel summer last night for the 1st time. It is ok, but Karma is 1000 times better. Maybe even I can see you. Hopefully one august soon august will be that song.
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Post by Codex on Aug 24, 2023 12:10:29 GMT -5
This would have needed the bare minimum to reach #1. A couple of random remixes and an Instagram story would have probably sealed the deal. I think she might want to lay low until 1989 TV. Which is fine but then again, that album got its own flowers (and big ones) a decade ago 🤷🏻♂️ You’re famous sis
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2023 12:14:11 GMT -5
Omg lol
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Post by deepston on Aug 24, 2023 12:33:37 GMT -5
This would have needed the bare minimum to reach #1. A couple of random remixes and an Instagram story would have probably sealed the deal. I think she might want to lay low until 1989 TV. Which is fine but then again, that album got its own flowers (and big ones) a decade ago 🤷🏻♂️ You’re famous sis Not a deranged swiftie post being my breakthrough in the mainstream 💀
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