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Post by tinawina on Nov 12, 2019 13:40:09 GMT -5
On a sidenote a poster mentioned her not being able to get a hit w/out breaking up with Shawn. I don't agree she just needs a good song. She has a label that seems to be behind her and to the general public I doubt they noticed she released 4 songs that underperformed/didn't take off or never had any intentions of being a single. The girl is in her early 20's and is very driven. I don't think she needs to break up with anyone for attention to get a hit.. I don’t think that was about merely getting a hit though... I agree she’s a proven hit maker, she can certainly generate another hit with a good song. But if she’s going to launch an album in a few weeks, I can see where that poster was coming from in that’s she’d probably need more than a hit, she’d need a major attention getting stunt to pull of amassing that kind of instant buzz before December 6th. That was the way I took it anyway. If they push the album back however, then I don’t think any stunts would be necessary. She can sell a properly catchy song all on her own. ETA: I forgot to say I also think she could do it with a buzz worthy performance of a new song at the AMAs... something that goes viral.
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 12, 2019 22:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by Lumi on Nov 12, 2019 23:15:51 GMT -5
I've lowkey had this theory that Camila and/or her team wanted 'Shameless' to be the focus track of the two, and everything that's gone on since is one long, drawn out dummy spit over not getting her/their way. Like, would she have dropped another pair of tracks so soon to muddy the water if 'Shameless' had been the focus track? Would she have actually performed it on SNL instead of the two randomly-dropped non-singles? Of course, I get the 'it's been so long I wanna share as much new music with you as possible' angle but if she/they really wanted 'Shameless' to be the single they could've just released that on its own to live or die without providing radio/fans a second track as an alternative. I'm not sure if "Shameless" was the intended single honestly. Considering the "Liar" video had a much bigger budget, I feel like it was meant to be pushed from the start? Idk, it doesn't explain why the "Shameless" video was released first.
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Post by Chelsea Press 2 on Nov 13, 2019 4:12:17 GMT -5
Is she standing in a toxic waste dump?
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 13, 2019 4:15:41 GMT -5
Is she standing in a toxic waste dump?
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Post by Choco on Nov 13, 2019 4:35:56 GMT -5
That looks like an outtake from the Shameless video.
But it's better than the first image we got with the bad photoshop.
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Post by Taylor. on Nov 13, 2019 9:57:48 GMT -5
Plowing ahead with a album in less than a month with no hit single? Interesting.
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Post by kanimal on Nov 13, 2019 10:25:57 GMT -5
Plowing ahead with a album in less than a month with no hit single? Interesting. They're going with Señorita as the "hit single." It's confirmed as being part of the album, and it's still a Top 5 hit in the US. I do agree that it would have been preferable to have one of her solo songs stick, but I think they A) really wanted the album out for the holidays B) recognize that they may not get another hit like Señorita ... and if they delay the album to try, they risk further minimizing whatever benefit Señorita would bring to the opening week number.
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 13, 2019 14:49:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 17:45:30 GMT -5
Plowing ahead with a album in less than a month with no hit single? Interesting. They're going with Señorita as the "hit single." It's confirmed as being part of the album, and it's still a Top 5 hit in the US. I do agree that it would have been preferable to have one of her solo songs stick, but I think they A) really wanted the album out for the holidays B) recognize that they may not get another hit like Señorita ... and if they delay the album to try, they risk further minimizing whatever benefit Señorita would bring to the opening week number. Plus she gonna be busy fliming Cinderella, and after that done they can focus on writing the third album and trying to get some hits out of that one
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 13, 2019 17:51:30 GMT -5
She just announced that she is gonna be going on tour across the USA and Canada.The tour will be called the Romance tour.
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Post by Mayman on Nov 13, 2019 17:59:37 GMT -5
She just announced that she is gonna be going on tour across the USA and Canada.The tour will be called the Romance tour. Will you be attending?
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 13, 2019 20:59:59 GMT -5
She just announced that she is gonna be going on tour across the USA and Canada.The tour will be called the Romance tour. Will you be attending? I live 30 miles north of Boston MA. If Boston is a part of her tour, I will try to get tickets.
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Post by breathingrande on Nov 14, 2019 6:41:11 GMT -5
Plowing ahead with a album in less than a month with no hit single? Interesting. They're going with Señorita as the "hit single." It's confirmed as being part of the album, and it's still a Top 5 hit in the US. I do agree that it would have been preferable to have one of her solo songs stick, but I think they A) really wanted the album out for the holidays B) recognize that they may not get another hit like Señorita ... and if they delay the album to try, they risk further minimizing whatever benefit Señorita would bring to the opening week number. Everyone knows that's Shawn's song though.... Even here in spain they present the song as his. The label can add whatever they want on the album but that won't sell it
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Post by breathingrande on Nov 14, 2019 6:44:33 GMT -5
If they wanted to go with Señorita , why didn't they release the album a month ago? The song is pretty much done/burned , peaked on every format.
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 14, 2019 7:28:06 GMT -5
She's not gonna start the Romance tour until late June of 2020, so they they must be anticipating a couple more hits from the new album.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 14, 2019 7:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by leonagwen on Nov 14, 2019 7:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by tinawina on Nov 14, 2019 9:38:31 GMT -5
If they wanted to go with Señorita , why didn't they release the album a month ago? The song is pretty much done/burned , peaked on every format. I don't think they wanted to. They were counting on getting other hits but that didn't pan out. At this point, if they don't tack Senorita on the album she risks her project having dismal numbers. At least now it's streams can count towards her album total.
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Post by Maximillian on Nov 14, 2019 9:45:25 GMT -5
If they wanted to go with Señorita , why didn't they release the album a month ago? The song is pretty much done/burned , peaked on every format. I don't think they wanted to. They were counting on getting other hits but that didn't pan out. At this point, if they don't tack Senorita on the album she risks her project having dismal numbers. At least now it's streams can count towards her album total. Which, frankly, is fair. She was half of the songs success, she should get half the benefit.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 14, 2019 9:45:47 GMT -5
They're going with Señorita as the "hit single." It's confirmed as being part of the album, and it's still a Top 5 hit in the US. I do agree that it would have been preferable to have one of her solo songs stick, but I think they A) really wanted the album out for the holidays B) recognize that they may not get another hit like Señorita ... and if they delay the album to try, they risk further minimizing whatever benefit Señorita would bring to the opening week number. Everyone knows that's Shawn's song though.... Even here in spain they present the song as his. The label can add whatever they want on the album but that won't sell it This song is equally his and hers, it's only released on his YT channel (probably because he has more subs).
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Post by tinawina on Nov 14, 2019 9:50:00 GMT -5
Which, frankly, is fair. She was half of the songs success, she should get half the benefit. Yep. I ain't mad at it. I'm still kind of amazed this is happening. How in the world did they blow this? They were dealt a huge winning hand. All that time spent crafting her to this point... and then **poof** her second era rollout gets bothced. But I am speaking prematurely. The album hasn't dropped yet, maybe it will end up doing well. Ugh.
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Post by Az Paynter on Nov 14, 2019 9:53:30 GMT -5
If they wanted to go with Señorita , why didn't they release the album a month ago? The song is pretty much done/burned , peaked on every format. I don't think they wanted to. They were counting on getting other hits but that didn't pan out. At this point, if they don't tack Senorita on the album she risks her project having dismal numbers. At least now it's streams can count towards her album total. 'Senorita' is confirmed track #5 on 'Romance'. As for its streams contributing to her SPS or whatever, apparently it can only apply to one album and those numbers were already being used to fuel Shawn's self-titled deluxe re-release. Which means they can factor it into the numbers for 'Romance' but only by taking a sizable chunk out of Shawn's figures. We may have to settle for 'Senorita' being on there at all to fuel the album's performance.
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Post by tinawina on Nov 14, 2019 10:06:58 GMT -5
'Senorita' is confirmed track #5 on 'Romance'. As for its streams contributing to her SPS or whatever, apparently it can only apply to one album and those numbers were already being used to fuel Shawn's self-titled deluxe re-release. Which means they can factor it into the numbers for 'Romance' but only by taking a sizable chunk out of Shawn's figures. We may have to settle for 'Senorita' being on there at all to fuel the album's performance. Well let's hope it works then. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Ty on Nov 14, 2019 10:22:50 GMT -5
It reminds me of the situation with "Bang Bang" being included in both Ariana's and Jessie J's albums. My Everything was released slightly earlier, with "Bang Bang" being labelled as a 3rd single following the success of the first two ("Problem", "Break Free"); while Jessie J needed to leverage it as the lead and the only hit single after "Burnin' Up" flopped when her album was released.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Nov 14, 2019 13:23:42 GMT -5
I'm not surprised this is stalling. This song didn't sound like a hit the first time I heard it and it was released together with another song that is actually better than this one. And later two more album tracks from the same project were released.
All while 'Senorita' was still doing well.
Bad release strategy no matter where you look.
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