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Post by bigfan101 on Jul 2, 2020 15:06:42 GMT -5
That makes sense, I didn't realize labels had to go out of their way to certify a song with RIAA. It just seems absurd that, ten years into her career and with some moderate success, Lauren Alaina doesn't have an RIAA certification to her name aside from "What Ifs". RLT, LMMD, and even "Doin' Fine" are probably at at least gold status. Heck, Carly Pearce just got a plaque for "Hide the Wine". I think it goes back to Carly being the number one female priority for BMLG. I don’t think we can say the same thing about Lauren with UMG.
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Post by loveofmusic on Jul 2, 2020 16:23:37 GMT -5
I doubt Lauren having no certifications besides "What Ifs" has anything to do with being under multiple labels or Idol. I looked up Scotty McCreery's certifications. He has several singles certified from his first 2 albums & albums certified. At one time, they were both under 19/Mercury/Interscope.
I don't know why the label isn't certifying her singles because it seems like she has multiple singles that do reach at least gold.
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Post by jessy on Jul 2, 2020 17:13:48 GMT -5
Does the certification really matter I mean it’s still Gold or platinum. Regardless of certification right?
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 2, 2020 21:14:26 GMT -5
Does the certification really matter I mean it’s still Gold or platinum. Regardless of certification right? No, because again, it's a title that has to be bought by the label technically. So a song can be eligible for Gold or Platinum by reaching the threshold, but it has to be officially certified for it to actually be referred to as such.
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Post by dwindeezy on Jul 4, 2020 21:25:44 GMT -5
Honestly I think Lauren’s time is really coming. If they can get One Beer to get into the top 10, and work Getting Good into the top 15 (new duet, July 4th performances/promo), it could get her 3rd album released. Not to mention, her song with Riley Clemmons is rising on the CMM charts and if she can somehow get enough exposure there, I think The Other Side could do really well there. Plus her collab with BRELAND, if he breaks thru on pop, you never know what could happen with ‘In the woulds’ for her getting chr/had exposure. And finally, thought Dustin Lynch and Chris Young are promoting other singles, their collab with Lauren can still be future singles. All I’m saying is a lot is happening in her career right now and the stars may be aligning for her to finally get to that next level.
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Post by dwindeezy on Jul 4, 2020 21:27:25 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post.
Regarding the certifications, maybe they’re waiting for Getting Good to go gold to certify all the other singles. Might make kore impact having like 4 certifications than just one ya know.
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Post by jab820 on Jul 5, 2020 12:28:27 GMT -5
Honestly I think Lauren’s time is really coming. If they can get One Beer to get into the top 10, and work Getting Good into the top 15 (new duet, July 4th performances/promo), it could get her 3rd album released. Not to mention, her song with Riley Clemmons is rising on the CMM charts and if she can somehow get enough exposure there, I think The Other Side could do really well there. Plus her collab with BRELAND, if he breaks thru on pop, you never know what could happen with ‘In the woulds’ for her getting chr/had exposure. And finally, thought Dustin Lynch and Chris Young are promoting other singles, their collab with Lauren can still be future singles. All I’m saying is a lot is happening in her career right now and the stars may be aligning for her to finally get to that next level. I really appreciate this optimism. Being a Lauren Alaina fan can feel dreadful at times (mainly just due to radio). But, I do think the giant amount of duets/features was a coordinated and careful effort on her management's part. Lauren reminds me of Julia Michels in the sense that they are both seemingly featured on every song right now. This has been said before in the thread, but Lauren's management seems to work far harder for her than her label. How else would she have six duets/features (Lynch, Pardi, Young, Clemmons, BRELAND, HARDY) come out in the past year? Trisha McClanahan is a powerhouse manager in Nashville and she turned Lauren's career from truly nothing into something very respectable in just a few years. I imagine she has a clear vision for where to go from here. I hadn't thought about any potential on Christian radio. Currently, "Over and Over" is sitting at #35. "The Other Side" could absolutely work on the format. Great call. Thank you for the glimmer of hope!
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Post by dwindeezy on Jul 5, 2020 13:18:25 GMT -5
Honestly I think Lauren’s time is really coming. If they can get One Beer to get into the top 10, and work Getting Good into the top 15 (new duet, July 4th performances/promo), it could get her 3rd album released. Not to mention, her song with Riley Clemmons is rising on the CMM charts and if she can somehow get enough exposure there, I think The Other Side could do really well there. Plus her collab with BRELAND, if he breaks thru on pop, you never know what could happen with ‘In the woulds’ for her getting chr/had exposure. And finally, thought Dustin Lynch and Chris Young are promoting other singles, their collab with Lauren can still be future singles. All I’m saying is a lot is happening in her career right now and the stars may be aligning for her to finally get to that next level. I really appreciate this optimism. Being a Lauren Alaina fan can feel dreadful at times (mainly just due to radio). But, I do think the giant amount of duets/features was a coordinated and careful effort on her management's part. Lauren reminds me of Julia Michels in the sense that they are both seemingly featured on every song right now. This has been said before in the thread, but Lauren's management seems to work far harder for her than her label. How else would she have six duets/features (Lynch, Pardi, Young, Clemmons, BRELAND, HARDY) come out in the past year? Trisha McClanahan is a powerhouse manager in Nashville and she turned Lauren's career from truly nothing into something very respectable in just a few years. I imagine she has a clear vision for where to go from here. I hadn't thought about any potential on Christian radio. Currently, "Over and Over" is sitting at #35. "The Other Side" could absolutely work on the format. Great call. Thank you for the glimmer of hope! Yea I’m all about optimism. Also over and over is getting pretty good streams and they’re both young upcoming artists. Ccm has been crossing over lately (Lauren diagle, for king and country etc.) so maybe it can crossover and truly give Lauren the mainstream exposure she deserves.
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Post by jab820 on Jul 5, 2020 14:04:48 GMT -5
Does anyone know which version of "Over and Over" is being pushed to Christian radio right now? There are three versions of the song -- one with just Riley Clemmons alone, one with Lauren Alaina, and then a remix. There isn't a thread for the song over in the Christian & Gospel board, so I am curious.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 5, 2020 14:42:31 GMT -5
Does anyone know which version of "Over and Over" is being pushed to Christian radio right now? There are three versions of the song -- one with just Riley Clemmons alone, one with Lauren Alaina, and then a remix. There isn't a thread for the song over in the Christian & Gospel board, so I am curious. I went ahead and made one just now so that you (and anyone else who wants to) could discuss the song! pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/196838/riley-clemmons-over-lauren-alaina
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 5, 2020 20:22:02 GMT -5
"Getting Good" sets a new peak of #32 on Mediabase gaining 112 spins and 518k in audience. Before people think Top 30 will happen next week, the only song ahead of Lauren Alaina going recurrent is Scotty McCreery "In Between", and in order to stand a chance of hitting the Top 30 she would have to pass Jon Langston and hold off singles from Morgan Wallen, Rascal Flatts, and Eric Church which I doubt she will be able to do even with a solid week. She could, but I put no more than a 5% chance "Getting Good" is in the Top 30 next week. Would love to be proven wrong though.
But on the brightside, the past 2 weeks Lauren Alaina "Getting Good" has gained 256 spins and 886k in audience so it does seem like this song is starting to finally somewhat take off after spending so long in the 40s and 50s on the chart. Hopefully in the next few weeks this song can hang in there and get into the Top 30 sooner than later.
Also expect her to be at #34 or #35 depending if she is ahead of Jon Langston, and for "Getting Good" to either match or be one spot below the peak position of "Eighteen Inches".
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 6, 2020 14:04:08 GMT -5
"Getting Good" sets a new peak of #32 on Mediabase gaining 112 spins and 518k in audience. Before people think Top 30 will happen next week, the only song ahead of Lauren Alaina going recurrent is Scotty McCreery "In Between", and in order to stand a chance of hitting the Top 30 she would have to pass Jon Langston and hold off singles from Morgan Wallen, Rascal Flatts, and Eric Church which I doubt she will be able to do even with a solid week. She could, but I put no more than a 5% chance "Getting Good" is in the Top 30 next week. Would love to be proven wrong though. But on the brightside, the past 2 weeks Lauren Alaina "Getting Good" has gained 256 spins and 886k in audience so it does seem like this song is starting to finally somewhat take off after spending so long in the 40s and 50s on the chart. Hopefully in the next few weeks this song can hang in there and get into the Top 30 sooner than later. Also expect her to be at #34 or #35 depending if she is ahead of Jon Langston, and for "Getting Good" to either match or be one spot below the peak position of "Eighteen Inches". So yeah, that did not happen since Lauren Alaina looks to be at #38 on Billboard Link: www.billboard.com/music/lauren-alaina/chart-history/CSAI genuinely find it annoying that the day this song is at #30 on Mediabase (fingers crossed she holds it for another 6 days to make it official) she can be just barely inside the Top 40. I really hope that some (if not all) the stations that are Billboard only stations play this song because this is ridiculous.
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Post by dwindeezy on Jul 6, 2020 16:31:21 GMT -5
I’ve always said her audience was the only thing holding her back from moving up on mediabase so I’m guessing she got a really food audience update to shoot up 6 spots? She’s also rising on iTunes so all positive things happening now.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 6, 2020 19:59:02 GMT -5
She may be lagging behind in BB position a little compared to MB, but the fact that a couple months ago she had about half the audience on MB that she does now, I'd say things are looking up for "Getting Good." I think this one should at least reach the top 30 for her on BB, and if all it does is peak at #26, that's (sadly) all it would take for it to officially be her second biggest solo hit.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 6, 2020 21:12:01 GMT -5
I am just annoyed and confused on how this song can gain 167 spins and 770k in audience on Mediabase the past 7 days and NONE of that translates to Billboard at all with Lauren losing 15 spins and 70k in audience on Billboard. It is just annoying how different the Mediabase and Billboard chart position is, especially since this song just had it's best week on Mediabase in quite a while and yet somehow it is the only song on the chart that HAS to re-bullet on Billboard or it will 100% go recurrent next week, and after it having a really great couple of weeks on Mediabase I have doubts that she will be able to pull it off a third time with even less spins up for grabs.
I want to be optimistic, but tonight's Billboard chart completely deflated my hopes for this song.
Oh and also a solemn f**k you to every country radio station on the Billboard Panel that f**ked this song over this week. Complete sexist bulls**t that it takes this song 38 weeks to hit #38.
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Post by g8erboi on Jul 6, 2020 21:45:03 GMT -5
Don’t give up hope yet. I think this song still has a lot of life left in it! I could see them sticking with this until the wheels literally fall off (late fall/early winter) and getting this into the top 20 on BB (or even top 15 on Mediabase). With the way country radio is operating lately, it wouldn’t surprise me to see this end up in the top 10 in January or February lmao.
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Post by dwindeezy on Jul 7, 2020 3:04:10 GMT -5
Don’t give up hope yet. I think this song still has a lot of life left in it! I could see them sticking with this until the wheels literally fall off (late fall/early winter) and getting this into the top 20 on BB (or even top 15 on Mediabase). With the way country radio is operating lately, it wouldn’t surprise me to see this end up in the top 10 in January or February lmao. Yea raylatch, I feel ya. As big LA fans, were frustrated with how radio has treated her. BUT, this song got 3 adds this week (more than it’s gotten for weeks, maybe months) so I think this song might be in it for the long haul and actually peak decently and give her a nice sized hit. Things may be ‘getting good’ for her career. Pun intended lolz
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Post by jab820 on Jul 8, 2020 11:35:29 GMT -5
I know we are only half-way through the week, but this song is holding strong at #30 with a very healthy bullet. It's actually only four spins away from passing Russell Dickerson at #29. Additionally it is over 100 spins ahead of Old Dominion right behind it. Morgan Wallen will definitely pass this song in some time, but for now his bullet is nothing to worry about.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 8, 2020 12:20:17 GMT -5
I know we are only half-way through the week, but this song is holding strong at #30 with a very healthy bullet. It's actually only four spins away from passing Russell Dickerson at #29. Additionally it is over 100 spins ahead of Old Dominion right behind it. Morgan Wallen will definitely pass this song in some time, but for now his bullet is nothing to worry about. Yeah I am hopeful she will get officially into the Top 30 this Sunday (note the bullet will go down tomorrow because she gained 70 spins on the June 2nd update and I don't think tomorrow's update will be quite that good) as she just needs to hold off at least one of Old Dominion and Jon Langston for 4 more days and she is in the Top 30. I do hope if this does officially make the Top 30 this week, that country radio begins to convert it and audience juggernauts like KKBQ, WNSH, and other stations start playing this song more than just overnight spins as they are the main reason why Lauren's audience is so lagging. If Lauren Alaina had even just a little bit more audience I think she would be able to possibly even pass Russell Dickerson temporarily. The sad thing about country is I can see this song hanging on for a very long time because it seems like lately with country radio a song's chart run doesn't truly begin til it hits the Top 30 since it is not familiar with most radio listeners.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 10, 2020 6:32:28 GMT -5
Actually this song may be done since it has lost close to 100 spins the past 2 days on Mediabase and 130k in audience and has fallen all the way back to #33 on Mediabase so barring a huge rally I don't see it hitting the Top 30 this week or honestly for the next few weeks. I don't know maybe I am overreacting because I am a very paranoid person, but this song's chart run is beyond frustrating and I am kind of annoyed that all the momentum that seemed to be built in the last week or so is pretty much all gone at this point.
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Post by bdrm87 on Jul 10, 2020 9:13:03 GMT -5
Actually this song may be done since it has lost close to 100 spins the past 2 days on Mediabase and 130k in audience and has fallen all the way back to #33 on Mediabase so barring a huge rally I don't see it hitting the Top 30 this week or honestly for the next few weeks. I don't know maybe I am overreacting because I am a very paranoid person, but this song's chart run is beyond frustrating and I am kind of annoyed that all the momentum that seemed to be built in the last week or so is pretty much all gone at this point. I feel your frustration, but I don’t think we need to give up hope just yet. The song has had way bigger setbacks before and been able to bounce back. The label wants top 30 for this at the bare minimum and I think they’ll get it.
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Post by austin on Jul 10, 2020 11:45:53 GMT -5
I didn't see any signs this one was going to do anything other than hope it could pull a Maddie & Tae somehow, so I can see it being done.
I don't know if radio is ever going to really embrace her unless her team starts picking better singles. But she is going to be able to reach people with her music through other outlets! She is an amazing vocalist.
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Post by jessy on Jul 10, 2020 11:48:26 GMT -5
Only question I have is. I wonder if she’s making a profit for her label?
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Post by darko on Jul 10, 2020 13:10:21 GMT -5
Actually this song may be done since it has lost close to 100 spins the past 2 days on Mediabase and 130k in audience and has fallen all the way back to #33 on Mediabase so barring a huge rally I don't see it hitting the Top 30 this week or honestly for the next few weeks. I don't know maybe I am overreacting because I am a very paranoid person, but this song's chart run is beyond frustrating and I am kind of annoyed that all the momentum that seemed to be built in the last week or so is pretty much all gone at this point. I feel your frustration, but I don’t think we need to give up hope just yet. The song has had way bigger setbacks before and been able to bounce back. The label wants top 30 for this at the bare minimum and I think they’ll get it. I think its silly to live and die from day to day. That area of the chart is very close and they switch around each day. She already has an add for next week so not done yet. I would guess once she hits the 30's she will pick up somewhat. She does have some heavy hitters behind her so will see how that affects the run.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 10, 2020 13:28:34 GMT -5
Looking at today's daily update that fearlessarrow posted, I am just not seeing any evidence this one is done. She's suffered bigger losses than this and her bullet is still positive.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 11, 2020 21:12:44 GMT -5
I mean it is kind of hard not to be negative about how this song is doing when this songs bullet this past Wednesday was 251 and within 3 days it is down to a negative 31, and in order for this song to stay on Billboard it HAS to re-bullet, if it is even slightly negative than it is off the chart. Like I get what everyone is saying but 1. I am a freaking paranoid person about chart runs especially when it is songs/artists I like. 2. I suspect like "Ladies In The 90s" once this goes recurrent on Billboard this Monday (in order to stand a chance of staying on Billboard she needs to gain well over 150k in order to stand a chance and over 100 spins the next 2 days, which seems impossible to me) this will just stay recurrent despite the label promoting it ("Ladies In The 90s" was promoted for like 2 months after going recurrent on Billboard and despite some solid weeks on Mediabase, Billboard never budged on letting it back). As much as I love this song, UMG would be best off just sticking a fork in this one when they already have "One Beer" to play and maybe release something new when "One Beer" is done to build up some buzz with its chart run since "Getting Good" is not even connecting all that well since it can't sell worth a s**t on iTunes despite solid streaming which makes no sense to me how a song can be so strong on streaming and yet so pathetic on sales. But even then her country radio career as a solo artist is pretty much over, she will still see success with collaborations (for now) but with her own solo material she might be lucky and be able to marathon chart climb to Top 40 peaks. Sorry to sound negative but since Monday the updates for this song have left me kind of pissed off after such a great week on Mediabase that amounted to f**king nothing on Billboard but a grace week negative bullet and the following week when she has to re-bullet UMG does not give a f**k or is barely trying. Sorry that might make the chart watcher who is a huge Lauren Alaina fan a bit bitter. {Spoiler} Also I am hoping me hoping this song ends soon causes country radio to play it more.
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Post by jessy on Jul 11, 2020 21:18:55 GMT -5
I don’t know how much longer she has. with her current label to be honest. If she can’t get top 20s anymore. She’s probably be best served with a Indy label. Like triple Tigers or Black river entertainment or big loud records or some other small label. One that cares more about pushing her. I remember having a similar conversation years ago about kellie pickler. Unfortunately I don’t think Kellie cares to make music again anytime soon.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 13, 2020 6:31:13 GMT -5
While not done this song is going recurrent tonight on Billboard as it had to re-bullet and on Mediabase this morning she is sitting at a negative 130 bullet with 48 more spins lost and almost 300k in audience lost today alone. This song is expected to get a couple of adds on Mediabase but if I were the label if this week turns into yet another non event week or no bullet gained back I'd drop the single asap as country radio pretty much made it clear this week that this is as high as Lauren Alaina is going to get. I would love to be wrong (you hear that country radio if any of you higher ups are reading this play this song on daytime spins and prove me wrong, you have let this song be buried in overnight for 9 and a half months which is downright depressing). But I just have zero faith in country radio in regards to this song.
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Post by d3vin44 on Jul 13, 2020 13:42:29 GMT -5
This song has really been “pushed” on me by Spotify lately and I have to say, I now love it! I think it’s got some life left!
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Post by jab820 on Jul 13, 2020 18:32:38 GMT -5
According to Lauren Alaina's chart history page, this is #37 tonight on Billboard which is indeed a new peak and saved this song from the inevitable doom of going recurrent and never re-charting (see: LIT90s).
Let's pick this back up on Mediabase. It can do it. It can do it!
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