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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Dec 21, 2019 22:43:38 GMT -5
Also, and this is coming from a fan of all three acts, we can’t discount the fact that the ones still having easy pop success are males. I think it’s less about strategic choices and more about what’s swinging between their legs. Men are simply not subject to the same rules about aging and long term success in this business as women are. *plays The Man* To be fair, other than Maroon 5, what older male pop act is still having success? JT struggled quite a bit recently, and I can’t think of any others who are even candidates. Bruno is 34 now, but he also got a late start, so we’ll see how his next album fares. I honestly think it’s less overt sexism and more competition. Female pop acts are more likely to establish this type of loyal fanbase, so it becomes more obvious when they start to get phased out for newer artists. www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-47232677Maybe what I’m feeling is more about this...as a larger problem.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 22, 2019 19:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 23, 2019 21:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 24, 2019 20:21:54 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 25, 2019 21:33:15 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 26, 2019 15:22:21 GMT -5
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 26, 2019 15:41:49 GMT -5
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Post by xykes on Dec 27, 2019 14:13:11 GMT -5
ugh, could this just peak already so i can pretend Maroon 5 don't exist Meanwhile Pulse is like "OMG that one Maroon 5 stan is so toxic" Yes, I'M the toxic one here. #VictoryLap still in full swing over here!
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 27, 2019 15:41:33 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 27, 2019 20:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by SwiftlySheeran on Dec 27, 2019 21:56:42 GMT -5
Before I start, let me just say that I am a big Maroon 5 fan and that I have been for as long as I can remember. What can I say, Songs About Jane and It Won't Be Soon Before Long really hooked me in. The hatred for Maroon 5 mainly stems from the fact that "they used to be good," but now fail to make anything that is deeper than a kiddie pool. Now, I'm not arguing with this point because one can easily go from Sunday Morning to Memories and wonder if it is in fact the same band. However, I must point out that Maroon 5's purpose for making music has also drastically changed. They went from this hungry band trying to infuse their own sound in the music world to more realizing who they are when they look in the mirror (a bunch of 40 year old dudes trying to make it big in a pop world dominated by teenagers and stars in their twenties) and doing anything they can just to remain at the top and not get lost in the mix. Though they can be blamed for that as a whole, I feel as though the point becomes moot when one complains about this theory each and every time they make another song. It's as if a chef decided to go from making the best steak in the world to making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Sure, you can blame the chef for changing their style, but you can't exactly keep blaming them for the taste of the sandwich every single time. What do you expect? In essence, Maroon 5 changes their ways because they believe all people want are those peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Sure, you and I may believe they could be great sellers if they went back to their steak, and we all wish they did, but they are making money with their new sandwich. It's not the greatest thing in the world, but honestly, for what we expect, they're doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing. It's safe, non-harmful stuff. The worst that could happen after listening to their song is you saying you wasted three minutes of your life, which is probably what you would say if all you ate was peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Once again, I'm not trying to argue that Maroon 5 are great. I'm not even trying to argue that they're good. But they're not harmful and those peanut butter and sandwiches are just plain, but you never spit them out. I would listen to Maroon 5 every second of every day over something that degrades women or encourages violent or just overall evil behavior. Once again, all Maroon 5 might encourage you to do is think about what you could have been doing with those 3 minutes you just wasted. They're not harmful. And that's not a high bar, I know. And we can kill them for setting that bar of the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, but we can't kill them every time they decide to make another one. It's the road they chose to drive on in order to survive. Hands All Over flopped before Moves Like Jagger. That song propelled them into a new career the public, including you and I, were never ready for, but we have to accept that without that song they may not be around today. For better or worse is an argument for another day, but I'm pretty sure they are happy just to be around and have those Memories (okay I had to do it!!!!).
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 27, 2019 23:13:56 GMT -5
very smart of them to put the song on discount during this holiday season. And bloop! #1 on itunes they are again. Great marketing strategy.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 28, 2019 12:15:41 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 28, 2019 23:08:22 GMT -5
This is actually one of their better songs. It’s so melodic it’s crazy. I don’t know how they continue to do it, but this definitely is NOT a channel changer in anyway. I understand its iTunes position. It’s great.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 29, 2019 16:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 30, 2019 21:14:01 GMT -5
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Post by Koochie on Dec 30, 2019 22:39:21 GMT -5
I made the mistake of relistening to their debut and sophomore albums. My god, they were so good before Max Martin started sucking off Adam.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 31, 2019 16:01:51 GMT -5
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Post by SwiftlySheeran on Dec 31, 2019 16:13:23 GMT -5
I made the mistake of relistening to their debut and sophomore albums. My god, they were so good before Max Martin started sucking off Adam. The fact that their first album came out over 17 years ago and they are going to re-enter the top 5 of the Billboard and possible even hit a new peak of 3, it's just absolutely incredible to me. Hate then or not to have the #3 song in America 17 years after your first album is quite the accomplishment.
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Post by Choco on Dec 31, 2019 19:01:29 GMT -5
I made the mistake of relistening to their debut and sophomore albums. My god, they were so good before Max Martin started sucking off Adam. The fact that their first album came out over 17 years ago and they are going to re-enter the top 5 of the Billboard and possible even hit a new peak of 3, it's just absolutely incredible to me. Hate then or not to have the #3 song in America 17 years after your first album is quite the accomplishment. Sure but none of that denies his claim that their quality went down after the first few albums.
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Post by SwiftlySheeran on Dec 31, 2019 19:07:29 GMT -5
The fact that their first album came out over 17 years ago and they are going to re-enter the top 5 of the Billboard and possible even hit a new peak of 3, it's just absolutely incredible to me. Hate then or not to have the #3 song in America 17 years after your first album is quite the accomplishment. Sure but none of that denies his claim that their quality went down after the first few albums. Oh...no doubt. You should see my other post where I go into detail about that. I'm not denying that fact. Though I will fight tooth and nail that Hands All Over was a good pop album. But...once again, the quality has gone down. I don't know why, but that almost makes it stranger. If I told you that a band would get worse over time but more popular and successful and this would go on for over a decade, you would call me crazy.
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Post by Choco on Dec 31, 2019 19:09:37 GMT -5
I liked Hands All Over and I thought Overexposed was good. Their laziness only started bothering me around "Don't Wanna Know". I still more or lees enjoy all of their singles as playlist filler but I know not to expect anything close to "This Love" or "Won't Go Home Without You".
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Post by SwiftlySheeran on Dec 31, 2019 19:28:26 GMT -5
I freaking love both of those songs so so much!!! And I agree. I never thought they got awful. Just less good to the point where they got bland. I too heard Don't Wanna Know and was like "Oh nah...this ain't them." Hopefully they'll surprise us with their next album.
You never know...
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 1, 2020 19:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by SwiftlySheeran on Jan 1, 2020 22:23:00 GMT -5
Will they move on to another single before the album release? Or will it just be promos from here?
I personally could definitely see them releasing this album for the summer so I could see one more single and a few promos before that time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 0:13:05 GMT -5
Will they move on to another single before the album release? Or will it just be promos from here? I personally could definitely see them releasing this album for the summer so I could see one more single and a few promos before that time. i think they will go the post Malone route and release new singles though out the year and track them all on a album in 2021
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 2, 2020 17:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by xykes on Jan 3, 2020 3:39:31 GMT -5
Pretty wild that this is still #2 on itunes currently...
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 3, 2020 14:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by insen_13 on Jan 4, 2020 6:38:47 GMT -5
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