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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 5, 2019 21:59:29 GMT -5
It's crazy to think that label politics cost us a Lil Wayne x Drake x Post Malone song last year. Would have been earthshatteringly huge if it actually came out. I think they'll eventually collab. It's just not something Drake is going to rush. He's been cool wifh Cardi B for years now and they still don't have a song together. A lot of the hottest rappers and R&B singers that have come out in the past few years have all expressed wanting to work with Drake, but he always takes his time with collabs. Scooter Braun has been trying to make a collab with Ariana happen since 2016. Still, nothing. He works with people when he wants to. |
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Post by sirskimask on Oct 5, 2019 23:14:57 GMT -5
Does anyone know what HITN would need to hit #1? It’s streaming numbers are slightly ahead of Circles on Spotify which debuted number 4. Would need significantly better longevity, since it will have weaker sales and radio. Circles debuted at 7 not 4. It got to #4 a week later from the album bomb |
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Post by ddlz on Oct 6, 2019 6:34:42 GMT -5
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Post by earth on Oct 6, 2019 8:52:05 GMT -5
Wait, do songs usually gain a bunch of radio on weekends? Because Someone You Loved, Only Human, Circles, & Memories all gained more than 2 mil audience on kworb song estimates
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 9:11:26 GMT -5
Lol @ Ransom down to 32 on Spotify because of a bug/whatever you wanna call it.
Lil Tecca "re-released" his album with a new song, and if you have any track from the album without the new song, it doesn't play. So basically, anyone who has Ransom in their playlist under the "old album", can't stream the song.
Expect a big drop next week
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 6, 2019 9:38:04 GMT -5
2.9M for Travis Scott on Spotify, I'll cancel that "gonna debut at #1" lol
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 6, 2019 9:42:09 GMT -5
Wait, do songs usually gain a bunch of radio on weekends? Because Someone You Loved, Only Human, Circles, & Memories all gained more than 2 mil audience on kworb song estimates Normally, they don't. Memories isn't unexpected as Maroon 5 are loved by radio. The only other exception that's relatively common is for high profile songs during their first weekend out. You probably recall that Me! debuted at #100 based only radio airplay. |
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Post by Mayman on Oct 6, 2019 9:48:13 GMT -5
2.9M for Travis Scott on Spotify, I'll cancel that "gonna debut at #1" lol 10KH is down to 1.5 million so they both lost about 1 million streams. |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 6, 2019 9:49:29 GMT -5
But they are also fighting against Truth Hurts.
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Post by shaz196 on Oct 6, 2019 10:14:10 GMT -5
But they are also fighting against Truth Hurts. It still has a massive 1.4 million stream lead over the 2nd most streamed song on Spotify, and probably an even bigger lead on AM, according to All Access it is getting big spins on Rhythmic and Urban radio and most importantly it has bundles. I don't see how it's automatically out of contention because it had a pretty normal drop for a big debut on Saturday, one of Spotify's worst days for streaming. |
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Post by Dadude#0839 on Oct 6, 2019 10:41:53 GMT -5
Wait, do songs usually gain a bunch of radio on weekends? Because Someone You Loved, Only Human, Circles, & Memories all gained more than 2 mil audience on kworb song estimates Normally, they don't. Memories isn't unexpected as Maroon 5 are loved by radio. The only other exception that's relatively common is for high profile songs during their first weekend out. You probably recall that Me! debuted at #100 based only radio airplay. So Memories won’t flop? Aww man... |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 6, 2019 11:09:09 GMT -5
2.9M for Travis Scott on Spotify, I'll cancel that "gonna debut at #1" lol It all depends on how much he loses in streams when the update for Sunday comes in and how well he recovers on Monday. A #1 on Apple Music is only half the work that needs to be done to debut at #1. Lizzo is still gaining on radio and regardless of the push Travis gains on Rhythmic/Urban radio this week, he won't be crossing 25-30 million audience impressions (except he goes the DJ Khaled route and uses a radio deal). |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 6, 2019 11:27:21 GMT -5
So Memories won’t flop? Aww man... It might still flop in its current version. Radio might be the only thing keeping it afloat. |
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Post by shaz196 on Oct 6, 2019 11:53:08 GMT -5
2.9M for Travis Scott on Spotify, I'll cancel that "gonna debut at #1" lol It all depends on how much he loses in streams when the update for Sunday comes in and how well he recovers on Monday. A #1 on Apple Music is only half the work that needs to be done to debut at #1. Lizzo is still gaining on radio and regardless of the push Travis gains on Rhythmic/Urban radio this week, he won't be crossing 25-30 million audience impressions (except he goes the DJ Khaled route and uses a radio deal). HITR's Saturday losses are standard for such a large debut on Spotify, see Sucker, ME! and I Don't Care for comparison. Ofcourse those songs had huge audience impressions but the latter two competed against a 900 point monster for #1. A combination of 40 million on-demand, 15 million YouTube, 15 million AI and 40k sales would probably be enough for HITR to seriously compete against Truth Hurts. Nothing is set in stone but I dont think it's outside the realm of possibility. |
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Post by moonlite on Oct 6, 2019 11:59:08 GMT -5
^ Travis doesn't even need any radio. That many sales and streams would be enough for #1 alone
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Post by Crimsonio on Oct 6, 2019 12:13:30 GMT -5
Why are so many people rooting for Travis to get to #1 with an abysmal song? Take off your stan glasses and smell the roses.
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Post by shaz196 on Oct 6, 2019 12:26:35 GMT -5
^ Believing a song has a chance at debuting #1 based on its performance isn't fan bias, believing it doesn't have a chance because you don't like the song is.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 6, 2019 12:35:34 GMT -5
shaz196 you basically just repeated what I said. We have to wait and see how the song performs throughout this weekend at the very least to get a handle of where it might debut.
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Post by Mayman on Oct 6, 2019 12:43:03 GMT -5
Yeah the song isn't his best but it would be cool to see him get another #1.
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Post by shaz196 on Oct 6, 2019 12:43:27 GMT -5
shaz196 you basically just repeated what I said. We have to wait and see how the song performs throughout this weekend at the very least to get a handle of where it might debut. Fair enough. Also Summer Walker's projections has increased to 115-125k and is now expected to debut at #1. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 6, 2019 12:49:50 GMT -5
shaz196 you basically just repeated what I said. We have to wait and see how the song performs throughout this weekend at the very least to get a handle of where it might debut. Fair enough. Also Summer Walker's projections has increased to 115-125k and is now expected to debut at #1. I noticed that. I'm really happy for her especially because the album is a really good album and she stuck to her sound. She didn't try to chase hits and made really great R&B music. She really deserves it. |
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Post by lazer on Oct 6, 2019 13:43:51 GMT -5
Summer Walker deserves to be successful right now. We need more R&B jams.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 6, 2019 14:16:40 GMT -5
If there's one thing I love about the music industry, it's that trends always go around in circles. There was a time this decade when you could have easily made a case for R&B being dead. That has slowly shifted from 2015 till now. We've seen a resurgence of R&B in younger artists who also happen to be commercially successful.
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Post by violentdreams on Oct 6, 2019 16:16:33 GMT -5
Bandit's at #2 on AM now. Hopefully Juice gets another top 20 hit and NBA Youngboy gets his first.
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Post by higilo on Oct 6, 2019 16:45:38 GMT -5
Juice needs another hit
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Post by shaz196 on Oct 6, 2019 16:49:50 GMT -5
Bandit's at #2 on AM now. Hopefully Juice gets another top 20 hit and NBA Youngboy gets his first. It also remained very stable on Spotify despite it being Saturday. Hopefully Urban and Rhythmic pick up on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 18:34:43 GMT -5
ive been saying if youngboy really wanted a hit he could get one. he never drops songs on streaming platforms tho. just youtube
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Post by tanooki on Oct 6, 2019 19:25:53 GMT -5
It all depends on how much he loses in streams when the update for Sunday comes in and how well he recovers on Monday. A #1 on Apple Music is only half the work that needs to be done to debut at #1. Lizzo is still gaining on radio and regardless of the push Travis gains on Rhythmic/Urban radio this week, he won't be crossing 25-30 million audience impressions (except he goes the DJ Khaled route and uses a radio deal). HITR's Saturday losses are standard for such a large debut on Spotify, see Sucker, ME! and I Don't Care for comparison. Ofcourse those songs had huge audience impressions but the latter two competed against a 900 point monster for #1. A combination of 40 million on-demand, 15 million YouTube, 15 million AI and 40k sales would probably be enough for HITR to seriously compete against Truth Hurts. Nothing is set in stone but I dont think it's outside the realm of possibility. those numbers would be about 42,143 points, and last week rimetm had Truth Hurts at 36,216 points so yeah it's certainly possible |
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Post by 85la on Oct 6, 2019 20:53:27 GMT -5
anyone have HITR's radio numbers for the first two days?
Out of the crop of all these new songs I actually like The Bones the best by far. And Maren has the precedent for scoring a big crossover hit, so with Hozier's help, it would be great if she could do it again!
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 6, 2019 21:53:21 GMT -5
^It didn't appear in kworb's mediabase numbers. So, its audience was probably less than 5.
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