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Post by carriefan15 on May 26, 2020 22:06:30 GMT -5
^ I hope someone at the Fan Club Party next week will ask her about the Christmas album! Or maybe everyone can ask so she’ll know how bad we want one lol
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Post by daddy on May 27, 2020 5:14:05 GMT -5
So unnecessarily messy.
If there is a 5th single, then it should be “End Up With You”. But I think think ending here is the best option and her team should focus their efforts on the direction of the next era.
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Post by Crimsonio on May 27, 2020 5:19:44 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't want a Christmas album? I'd have no use for that personally.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2020 11:18:41 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't want a Christmas album? I'd have no use for that personally. No, I'm sure plenty of people agree with you because not everyone is a fan of Christmas music. The thing with Christmas albums and the promo surrounding them, they're here and gone over the course of about a 3 month period, and they typically sell well with minimal promotional effort and she could potentially establish a future classic with an original tune that gets held in a favorable light for years to come. In other words, even if you aren't personally jazzed about a Christmas album, it'd still be a pretty easy net positive for her even if not everyone wants it. Whether it's that or something else, I do think she needs something in between now and CU7, if she doesn't have the new album ready to go anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 11:40:45 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really doesn't want a Christmas album? I'd have no use for that personally. No, I'm sure plenty of people agree with you because not everyone is a fan of Christmas music. The thing with Christmas albums and the promo surrounding them, they're here and gone over the course of about a 3 month period, and they typically sell well with minimal promotional effort and she could potentially establish a future classic with an original tune that gets held in a favorable light for years to come. In other words, even if you aren't personally jazzed about a Christmas album, it'd still be a pretty easy net positive for her even if not everyone wants it. Whether it's that or something else, I do think she needs something in between now and CU7, if she doesn't have the new album ready to go anytime soon. Well, to be fair, I think Carrie’s recording of “Do You Hear What I Here” receives pretty decent yearly holiday airplay, but that may only be in my region.
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Post by Jaymiee on May 27, 2020 13:32:25 GMT -5
I also kind of think a Christmas album will help get her name more mainstream again. Besides BHC and maybe Blown Away i feel like a lot of the general public dont really listen to her anymore unless they listen to country music, a big Christmas album will get her back in the spotlight, not just country radio, and help the release of CU7 so im all for it
Not to mention I just love anything she sings she sounds so good so I absolutely want a full Christmas album. Then a classic country cover album down the road would be amazing too
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Post by carrieidol1 on May 27, 2020 14:07:03 GMT -5
No, I'm sure plenty of people agree with you because not everyone is a fan of Christmas music. The thing with Christmas albums and the promo surrounding them, they're here and gone over the course of about a 3 month period, and they typically sell well with minimal promotional effort and she could potentially establish a future classic with an original tune that gets held in a favorable light for years to come. In other words, even if you aren't personally jazzed about a Christmas album, it'd still be a pretty easy net positive for her even if not everyone wants it. Whether it's that or something else, I do think she needs something in between now and CU7, if she doesn't have the new album ready to go anytime soon. Well, to be fair, I think Carrie’s recording of “Do You Hear What I Here” receives pretty decent yearly holiday airplay, but that may only be in my region. That kind of lends itself to the point that a Christmas album from Carrie would almost definitely stick; her one-off CR bonus holiday tracks are still being played all these years later (with absolutely no promo or marketing) - they’re not even available to stream... Lol. Now imagine if Carrie and her team actually released an album of this stuff and promoted it annually? There’s absolutely nothing to lose and any gains could potentially be career defining. If Carrie could manage a crossover holiday hit, there’s no telling where her career could go from that kind of exposure. It would set an amazing stage for CU7, and Carrie could honestly use a bit of a career boost. Things are going amazingly well, obviously, but as stated above, she hasn’t really had a big hit since 2012 with “Blown Away”... big hits are magical in terms of what they can do for a career, they breathe life into careers for years. I think Carrie is well overdue for a major hit, and an Xmas album could potentially turn enough heads/ears back in Carrie’s direction to make it happen (whether it’s a holiday hit and/or a single from CU7 that follows). Wow... things are boring. But it’s always fun to speculate the future!
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 27, 2020 14:14:59 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, I think Carrie’s recording of “Do You Hear What I Here” receives pretty decent yearly holiday airplay, but that may only be in my region. That kind of lends itself to the point that a Christmas album from Carrie would almost definitely stick; her one-off CR bonus holiday tracks are still being played all these years later (with absolutely no promo or marketing) - they’re not even available to stream... Lol. Now imagine if Carrie and her team actually released an album of this stuff and promoted it annually? There’s absolutely nothing to lose and any gains could potentially be career defining. If Carrie could manage a crossover holiday hit, there’s no telling where her career could go from that kind of exposure. It would set an amazing stage for CU7, and Carrie could honestly use a bit of a career boost. Things are going amazingly well, obviously, but as stated above, she hasn’t really had a big hit since 2012 with “Blown Away”... big hits are magical in terms of what they can do for a career, they breathe life into careers for years. I think Carrie is well overdue for a major hit, and an Xmas album could potentially turn enough heads/ears back in Carrie’s direction to make it happen (whether it’s a holiday hit and/or a single from CU7 that follows). Wow... things are boring. But it’s always fun to speculate the future!
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Post by carrieidol1 on May 27, 2020 14:38:02 GMT -5
Also, I’m sure the label would be giddy with excitement if she approached them about releasing a holiday album. Sony missed their shot, but I’m sure UMG would throw everything they have behind a holiday album from Carrie for the first couple of years, relatively speaking (as promoting a holiday album is obviously not as costly or time consuming as a brand new album).
It’s easy money with a name like Carrie’s and with an obvious demand, even without a crossover holiday hit it would probably be successful. Martina McBride comes to mind - she didn’t score a major hit, per se, but she created a moment with her rendition of “O Holy Night”. It did amazing things for her career, and kept her relevant for many holiday seasons to follow within country music.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 16:25:37 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, I think Carrie’s recording of “Do You Hear What I Here” receives pretty decent yearly holiday airplay, but that may only be in my region. That kind of lends itself to the point that a Christmas album from Carrie would almost definitely stick; her one-off CR bonus holiday tracks are still being played all these years later (with absolutely no promo or marketing) - they’re not even available to stream... Lol. Now imagine if Carrie and her team actually released an album of this stuff and promoted it annually? There’s absolutely nothing to lose and any gains could potentially be career defining. If Carrie could manage a crossover holiday hit, there’s no telling where her career could go from that kind of exposure. It would set an amazing stage for CU7, and Carrie could honestly use a bit of a career boost. Things are going amazingly well, obviously, but as stated above, she hasn’t really had a big hit since 2012 with “Blown Away”... big hits are magical in terms of what they can do for a career, they breathe life into careers for years. I think Carrie is well overdue for a major hit, and an Xmas album could potentially turn enough heads/ears back in Carrie’s direction to make it happen (whether it’s a holiday hit and/or a single from CU7 that follows). Wow... things are boring. But it’s always fun to speculate the future! This is good perspective. They finally put the CR Christmas EP on Spotify awhile back, and I wonder how it did streaming-wise during the holiday season. Holy shit, am I beginning to think a full-length Christmas album would be a good idea? This is turning into an Orwellian nightmare. We gotta move onto a new single.
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Post by bboat11 on May 28, 2020 3:14:53 GMT -5
Also, I’m sure the label would be giddy with excitement if she approached them about releasing a holiday album. Sony missed their shot, but I’m sure UMG would throw everything they have behind a holiday album from Carrie for the first couple of years, relatively speaking (as promoting a holiday album is obviously not as costly or time consuming as a brand new album). It’s easy money with a name like Carrie’s and with an obvious demand, even without a crossover holiday hit it would probably be successful. Martina McBride comes to mind - she didn’t score a major hit, per se, but she created a moment with her rendition of “O Holy Night”. It did amazing things for her career, and kept her relevant for many holiday seasons to follow within country music. Yes, Martina is an excellent example of how successful a Christmas album can be even without a huge original hit! That's exactly what I've been thinking. Her album did not have an obvious "hit" at the time of release necessarily, but her versions of "O Holy Night", "Silver Bells", and "White Christmas" have pretty much become so ubiquitous around the holiday season that everybody has heard them on pretty much every station whether they realize it or not. But it's not just isolated to those three songs. Her versions of "Do You Hear What I Hear", "Silent Night", "Away In A Manger", "The Christmas Song", "Please Come Home For Christmas", etc. are all plenty popular. Out of the 16 songs on White Christmas, I would claim based on what I have personally heard on the radio that at least 13-14 of them get fairly substantial play around the holidays, even 20 years later. It seems like most artists get one or two big Christmas songs that everybody hears all the time, but her entire album has low-key come to be one of the gold standards for Christmas airplay, even outside of country radio. And it continues to sell pretty well every single year. You would be hard pressed to find a Christmas album with as strong of legs as hers. Of course, that doesn't mean the same thing would automatically happen for Carrie. But what it does mean is that even if she doesn't have a huge flashy original Christmas hit, making a Christmas album could still potentially be hella worthwhile for her. I would also wager that if she releases it now while she is still a huge name, she is more likely to get that heavy annual airplay. (I'm willing to bet that is why Martina's Christmas music has been so continuously popular, while somebody like Sara Evans' Christmas album was pretty much DOA despite also being great.) Not to mention Carrie has a strong, multi-genre voice just like Martina which could really make these classic songs sound emotional and great to all listeners, not just the country fans. With her current superstar status, her cross-genre appeal, and her voice, Carrie has the potential to have a hugely popular Christmas album, as long as the production ages well! Edit: **The Martina Stan goes on a rant about Martina just because she was merely brought up. How on-brand...**
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Post by someguy on May 28, 2020 8:01:41 GMT -5
Also, I’m sure the label would be giddy with excitement if she approached them about releasing a holiday album. Sony missed their shot, but I’m sure UMG would throw everything they have behind a holiday album from Carrie for the first couple of years, relatively speaking (as promoting a holiday album is obviously not as costly or time consuming as a brand new album). It’s easy money with a name like Carrie’s and with an obvious demand, even without a crossover holiday hit it would probably be successful. Martina McBride comes to mind - she didn’t score a major hit, per se, but she created a moment with her rendition of “O Holy Night”. It did amazing things for her career, and kept her relevant for many holiday seasons to follow within country music. Yes, Martina is an excellent example of how successful a Christmas album can be even without a huge original hit! That's exactly what I've been thinking. Her album did not have an obvious "hit" at the time of release necessarily, but her versions of "O Holy Night", "Silver Bells", and "White Christmas" have pretty much become so ubiquitous around the holiday season that everybody has heard them on pretty much every station whether they realize it or not. But it's not just isolated to those three songs. Her versions of "Do You Hear What I Hear", "Silent Night", "Away In A Manger", "The Christmas Song", "Please Come Home For Christmas", etc. are all plenty popular. Out of the 16 songs on White Christmas, I would claim based on what I have personally heard on the radio that at least 13-14 of them get fairly substantial play around the holidays, even 20 years later. It seems like most artists get one or two big Christmas songs that everybody hears all the time, but her entire album has low-key come to be one of the gold standards for Christmas airplay, even outside of country radio. And it continues to sell pretty well every single year. You would be hard pressed to find a Christmas album with as strong of legs as hers. Of course, that doesn't mean the same thing would automatically happen for Carrie. But what it does mean is that even if she doesn't have a huge flashy original Christmas hit, making a Christmas album could still potentially be hella worthwhile for her. I would also wager that if she releases it now while she is still a huge name, she is more likely to get that heavy annual airplay. (I'm willing to bet that is why Martina's Christmas music has been so continuously popular, while somebody like Sara Evans' Christmas album was pretty much DOA despite also being great.) Not to mention Carrie has a strong, multi-genre voice just like Martina which could really make these classic songs sound emotional and great to all listeners, not just the country fans. With her current superstar status, her cross-genre appeal, and her voice, Carrie has the potential to have a hugely popular Christmas album, as long as the production ages well! Edit: **The Martina Stan goes on a rant about Martina just because she was merely brought up. How on-brand...**Not to derail this further, but I think that Sara's Christmas album was DOA because it was a store exclusive. I believe it was only available for purchase at US Walmart stores, and couldn't be purchased (physically, at least) anywhere else. Personally, I love the idea of a Carrie Underwood Christmas album. I actually find it really surprising that she hasn't done one yet. I think that she could do the classics justice, have broad multi-format appeal, and if she happened to have an original song that took off, her album could be a year after year favourite. Carrie is one of the few (country) artists who have the potential to do this, imo. With album sales being so down, Christmas albums actually are a bigger seller (percentage wise) now than before, when they hit, and I think Carrie certainly has the potential to hit with one. As for "Drinking Alone", it continues to chug along nicely, which is great to see. I'm expecting it to go at least top 5, and wouldn't be shocked if it gets an artificial push (like so many songs do), depending on what the top 5 looks like when it makes it there. I think that if this quarantine situation has severely delayed her next album, than a fifth single (maybe "End Up With You"? "Ghosts On The Stereo"?) could work to keep her on the radio. I think it all depends on how far away new music is when "Drinking Alone" peaks.
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Post by Jaymiee on May 28, 2020 19:30:02 GMT -5
I wish Ghosts on the Stereo had the chance to be single!(in place of LW maybe?) One of my favorites off the album. I just feel like country radio would either have eaten it up or it would've peaked at 30 something no in-between. Guess we will never know...although she was "ghost" hunting on her tik tok the other day..was that a clue??
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Post by taylor on May 28, 2020 20:07:24 GMT -5
I wish Ghosts on the Stereo had the chance to be single!(in place of LW maybe?) One of my favorites off the album. I just feel like country radio would either have eaten it up or it would've peaked at 30 something no in-between. Guess we will never know...although she was "ghost" hunting on her tik tok the other day..was that a clue?? In "Ghosts On The Stereo," she's literally throwing a party by herself by turning on her old favorite records and singing along. Perfect song to relate to these times, should a 5th single actually go ahead and happen. For single 5, this and EUWY are the best options imo.
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Post by Jaymiee on May 31, 2020 20:07:43 GMT -5
^ I agree if a 5th single were happening Ghosts or EUWY are the best choices although Backsliding is my favorite song off the album i think, I just dont see country radio playing it. The problem with Carrie albums is there are TOO many good songs that the token 4 singles each era isnt enough! @ Choctaw County Affair
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 8:55:09 GMT -5
Is this more speculation or do we have implicating evidence that there may be a fifth single? I figured the consensus was four-and-done, and everything else was just a hypothetical discourse.
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Post by taylor on Jun 1, 2020 9:47:06 GMT -5
Is this more speculation or do we have implicating evidence that there may be a fifth single? I figured the consensus was four-and-done, and everything else was just a hypothetical discourse. This is a music discussion board. Speculation is bound to happen and that's what this is. If we didn't speculate and only talked about the current single, there'd hardly be anything to talk about.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 9:59:00 GMT -5
Is this more speculation or do we have implicating evidence that there may be a fifth single? I figured the consensus was four-and-done, and everything else was just a hypothetical discourse. This is a music discussion board. Speculation is bound to happen and that's what this is. If we didn't speculate and only talked about the current single, there'd hardly be anything to talk about. I apologize if my question came off as adversarial or looking to incite chaos—I wasn’t sure if I had missed an announcement or anything that would strongly suggest that the label is considering single #5. I have been out-of-the-loop. I’m not trying to negate any speculation, but questioning if we had any evidence that shows we are getting another single. I’m happy to discuss either way.
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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 1, 2020 11:48:46 GMT -5
Is this more speculation or do we have implicating evidence that there may be a fifth single? I figured the consensus was four-and-done, and everything else was just a hypothetical discourse. This is a music discussion board. Speculation is bound to happen and that's what this is. If we didn't speculate and only talked about the current single, there'd hardly be anything to talk about. Just a gentle reminder that it can be easy to misinterpret tone on an online forum. I interpreted your response to Stephanie's question as being rather rude. I don't think you meant it to be that way, but I do feel the need to point it out. Nothing has been confirmed or denied by Team Carrie other than "Drinking Alone" is the current single. I stand by my previously stated opinion that a 5th single isn't the way to go. I think she's better off regrouping and getting something else together for a fall 2020 release--whether that be a Christmas album/song or something else. I also still don't think we are getting CU7 until 2021 at the earliest. If they were to go with a 5th single, EUWY is the obvious choice albeit rather safe. Personally, I'm a big fan of TSTWUTMLT as well. If she's going to release a 5th single, may as well take a risk and see what happens. That Song...would be risky, but could pay off for her big time I think. GOTS is a song I'm not a huge fan of myself, but I do see that others are a fan of it. I'm not convinced that it would do much for her though.
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Post by taylor on Jun 1, 2020 12:22:00 GMT -5
I apologize if that post came out rude in tone as that was not my intention. I should've responded more calmly.
I will say I don't think a fifth single will be released at this point, considering we have the "Tears of Gold" duet to look forward to. Knowing the past eras (four singles, month of silence, one-off duet, mass silence, new era), it wouldn't surprise me if "Tears of Gold" would be coming out in the middle of July or possibly right at the beginning of August.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 1, 2020 12:46:42 GMT -5
This is a music discussion board. Speculation is bound to happen and that's what this is. If we didn't speculate and only talked about the current single, there'd hardly be anything to talk about. Just a gentle reminder that it can be easy to misinterpret tone on an online forum. I interpreted your response to Stephanie's question as being rather rude. I don't think you meant it to be that way, but I do feel the need to point it out. Nothing has been confirmed or denied by Team Carrie other than "Drinking Alone" is the current single. I stand by my previously stated opinion that a 5th single isn't the way to go. I think she's better off regrouping and getting something else together for a fall 2020 release--whether that be a Christmas album/song or something else. I also still don't think we are getting CU7 until 2021 at the earliest. If they were to go with a 5th single, EUWY is the obvious choice albeit rather safe. Personally, I'm a big fan of TSTWUTMLT as well. If she's going to release a 5th single, may as well take a risk and see what happens. That Song...would be risky, but could pay off for her big time I think. GOTS is a song I'm not a huge fan of myself, but I do see that others are a fan of it. I'm not convinced that it would do much for her though. I did not take her post as rude at all. This was someone asking a question asking if they missed anything posted in here. From her last post in this thread to the post asking if an announcement was made, there were only 5 posts in between. It would not have taken long to look through those posts and see this wasn't the case. Also, this poster is on multiple Carrie boards and I see her all over her social media. She knew that there wasn't an announcement so I have no clue why she asked
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Post by bigd79 on Jun 1, 2020 20:21:57 GMT -5
Well i see y'all drove her to the point to delete her account. Can't say i'm surprised, some of you could stand to be a little nicer and not so condescending...
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Post by raylatch98 on Jun 1, 2020 20:27:59 GMT -5
Okay wow, I did not expect her to delete her account, and in which case I feel so sorry that she did as she seemed pretty nice. Also I feel incredibly guilty if I played a part in her leaving.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 1, 2020 20:30:19 GMT -5
Well i see y'all drove her to the point to delete her account. Can't say i'm surprised, some of you could stand to be a little nicer and not so condescending... She was actually really nice. She didn’t deserve this at all, she has a right to her opinion and always posted eloquent posts and explanations. Not calling anyone out, but in the Carrie threads particularly she was unfairly ganged up on a few times - I don’t blame her for leaving, but it’s sad to see a true Carrie supporter be chased away by fellow fans. I think everyone’s a little on edge, especially with what’s going on in the world, but we’ve gotta try and be nicer - we need love and support now more than ever!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jun 1, 2020 21:35:10 GMT -5
Down one place to #14 with a bullet on Billboard.
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Jun 1, 2020 22:03:50 GMT -5
Top 10 is looking less and less attainable on Billboard unfortunately. I won't worry about it too much though, since this era has been hugely successful in other regards and this did reach #9 on Mediabase.
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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 1, 2020 22:24:58 GMT -5
How much longer do we think this has before it starts falling? It feels like it's been FOREVER. This debuted in the second week of November. Surely 7+ months of chart activity is unusual?
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Post by raylatch98 on Jun 1, 2020 22:28:52 GMT -5
How much longer do we think this has before it starts falling? It feels like it's been FOREVER. Didn't this come out in like October? Late October, but yeah. I think this lasts for about another month, maybe month and a half since while it is gaining slower than it's competition "Drinking Alone" is still gaining on the chart okay enough. I do think the label's best bet is to max push this when they were within shot of the Top 10 on Billboard similar to "Cry Pretty".
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Post by bigd79 on Jun 1, 2020 23:27:42 GMT -5
Well i see y'all drove her to the point to delete her account. Can't say i'm surprised, some of you could stand to be a little nicer and not so condescending... She was actually really nice. She didn’t deserve this at all, she has a right to her opinion and always posted eloquent posts and explanations. Not calling anyone out, but in the Carrie threads particularly she was unfairly ganged up on a few times - I don’t blame her for leaving, but it’s sad to see a true Carrie supporter be chased away by fellow fans. I think everyone’s a little on edge, especially with what’s going on in the world, but we’ve gotta try and be nicer - we need love and support now more than ever! I thought so too. Totally agree with you! We can all stand to be better to one another, especially in these tough times going on in the world, so hopefully we will😊
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Post by bboat11 on Jun 2, 2020 5:35:46 GMT -5
See, I don’t believe anyone was unfairly targeted in this thread. She was eloquent, but lacked the ability to identify when her input was actually needed. Leading to her responding to every single person in this thread, saying the same things over and over again, as if people adding their thoughts to the discussion was a personal challenge to her own opinions and thereby forced her to reclarify and get defensive, when in reality people were merely trying to respond to topics that she herself brought up for discussion... The effect was that 90% of her posts read like the start of an argument, and she felt like people were out to get her. Now we all can finally have the breathing room to share our thoughts without it being received as a personal attack!
I don’t want to harp on about the character of somebody who is no longer posting here, but I had to put my opinion out there as somebody who might have been perceived as being “hard on her” a few days ago. The issue is not just people not being “nice enough“ to her. Nobody ever tried to draw her into a discussion that she didn’t already start herself.
That’s all I’ll say on the matter. I certainly don’t mean to derail the thread further. Just felt like I had to clear the air a bit, before we all start becoming TOO nice up in here 😂
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