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Post by moonlite on Nov 1, 2019 12:29:55 GMT -5
Roxanne reachin top 10 in less than a week is impressive
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 12:33:01 GMT -5
Does anyone remember βPlease Meβ? lol I wouldn't think the song would be forgotten that soon; I've still got to put it on my worst list.
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 1, 2019 13:56:38 GMT -5
In that case, do you have the sales data of Whitney Houstonβs βI Will Always Love Youβ during its 14 week run? Or at least some of its run? Here's what was covered in the Spotlight columns for IWALY's sales: 11/21 30,000 (sales debut) 11/28 120,000 (first week at #1 on the Hot 100) 12/05 200,000 12/12 350,000 12/19 400,000 12/26 450,000 01/02 520,000 (guesstimate based on math given 1/23's total scans)Β 01/09 630,000 (christmas week) 01/16 310,000 01/23 190,000 (also indicated 3.2 million scans total) 01/30 N/A (RIAA certified shipments of 4 million) 02/06 140,000 02/13 <100,000 02/20 <100,000 02/27 100,000 For each of its first 10 sales weeks, it averaged 320k. This is fantastic. Do you have βCandle In The Windβsβ weekly sales during its time at number one? Also, Toni Braxtonβs βUnbreak My Heartβ? Please... and Thank You so much, Bill. I may ask for more if youβre happy to share! ππΏ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:06:41 GMT -5
Does anyone remember βPlease Meβ? lol It's amazing how a song can be completely forgotten the same year it was released and became a Top 5 hit.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 15:09:40 GMT -5
Does anyone remember βPlease Meβ? lol It's amazing how a song can be completely forgotten the same year it was released and became a Top 5 hit. With so few top 5 hits at present, it's amazing that any of them could be forgotten quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:09:52 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/31
25(+3) Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 50.58(+0.70)
Nashville, please let Even Though I'm Leaving stick around long enough to make 2020's Year-End list.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 15:11:02 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/31
25(+3) Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 50.58(+0.70)
Nashville, please let Even Though I'm Leaving stick around long enough to make 2020's Year-End list. Does country have its own winter freeze? If so, this song could benefit from some solid airplay for a few weeks and stay on the charts into Feb/Mar.
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Post by Exclusive on Nov 1, 2019 15:13:34 GMT -5
Does anyone remember βPlease Meβ? lol It's amazing how a song can be completely forgotten the same year it was released and became a Top 5 hit. I mean..those who actually care(d) about the song remembers it.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 15:15:57 GMT -5
It's amazing how a song can be completely forgotten the same year it was released and became a Top 5 hit. I mean..those who actually care(d) about the song remembers it. Aside from those who dislike the song, though, it doesn't appear as if there was a groundswell of popularity for this song aside from radio payola.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:17:17 GMT -5
Nashville, please let Even Though I'm Leaving stick around long enough to make 2020's Year-End list. Does country have its own winter freeze? If so, this song could benefit from some solid airplay for a few weeks and stay on the charts into Feb/Mar. Let's hope that it can have a similar chart run to Beautiful Crazy and get a good four months on the charts in 2020's chart year, which should allow it to just scrape by onto the Year-End list. Still, I've got to question why they released it as a single in September, rather than releasing it in July or August (which would've probably been enough time for it to make 2019's list) or waited until October or November, in which it would peak in January/February and easily make 2020's list. Instead, it's gonna be a nail biter as to whether it scrapes onto 2020's list or gets caught between years.
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 1, 2019 16:56:51 GMT -5
I mean..those who actually care(d) about the song remembers it. Aside from those who dislike the song, though, it doesn't appear as if there was a groundswell of popularity for this song aside from radio payola. It's still inside Cardi's top 5 popular song on Spotify and it wasn't even that big on radio. If they used large amount of "payola," then it clearly didn't work.
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Post by Choco on Nov 1, 2019 18:35:10 GMT -5
You're all mistaking name recognition for payola. It was Cardi and Bruno, of course it was gonna get some attention... until people heard it and found out it wasn't that great.
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Post by lights on Nov 1, 2019 19:13:51 GMT -5
Has anyone got the data / know where it can be found for All I want for Christmas is you's Spotify streams per day for last year?
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 1, 2019 19:25:36 GMT -5
I was just observing on the retro chart..... Janet Jackson Mariah Carey Madonna Tina Turner Celine Dion Whitney Houston Toni Braxton and more... all present and accounted for. Good times. It says βAgainβ debuted on Sales that chart, but it had been charting for weeks. I thought songs had to be available commercially to chart at that time?
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Post by lazer on Nov 1, 2019 19:28:32 GMT -5
Payola or not, Finesse is still objectively better than Please Me.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 1, 2019 19:45:05 GMT -5
Payola or not, Finesse is still objectively better than Please Me. Finesse was a really good song (if not quite as good as "Versace On The Floor" and Mars' other singles from the 24K Magic era. "Please Me," though was not a very pleasing song to the ears. Neither Bruno nor Cardi B had really good songs on the charts this year.
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Post by xyz on Nov 1, 2019 21:02:35 GMT -5
Payola or not, Finesse is still objectively better than Please Me. Finesse was a really good song (if not quite as good as "Versace On The Floor" and Mars' other singles from the 24K Magic era. "Please Me," though was not a very pleasing song to the ears. Neither Bruno nor Cardi B had really good songs on the charts this year. The video was better than the song. 280M views on YT
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Post by spoons on Nov 1, 2019 21:06:40 GMT -5
Is Roxanne the next big rap hit? I think so, it slaps pretty hard but from what i heard other than roxanne Arizona zervas is a pretty trash artist so I hope he doesn't stay around
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 1, 2019 21:09:33 GMT -5
Payola or not, Finesse is still objectively better than Please Me. No, that's literally the opposite of what "objectively" means.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 1, 2019 23:48:25 GMT -5
Does anyone remember βPlease Meβ? lol It's amazing how a song can be completely forgotten the same year it was released and became a Top 5 hit. Get ready to say "who?" when talking about Lil Tecca and Ransom a few months from now.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 2, 2019 0:02:23 GMT -5
It's amazing how a song can be completely forgotten the same year it was released and became a Top 5 hit. Get ready to say "who?" when talking about Lil Tecca and Ransom a few months from now. That's true; I try not to get too mad at the not very talented trap one-hit wonders since they won't stick around long enough to remember. It will not be too long before "Mo Bamba" and "Ransom" are consigned to oblivion, and no one will ever know why Lil Baby and YK Osiris were ever a thing.
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Post by lazer on Nov 2, 2019 0:42:20 GMT -5
Get ready to say "who?" when talking about Lil Tecca and Ransom a few months from now. That's true; I try not to get too mad at the not very talented trap one-hit wonders since they won't stick around long enough to remember. It will not be too long before "Mo Bamba" and "Ransom" are consigned to oblivion, and no one will ever know why Lil Baby and YK Osiris were ever a thing. Yep, I'll never understand Lil Baby's appeal. 6ix9ine and Lil Pump at least stood out from other rappers of their visible terribleness. Lil Baby, however, is bland and boring as a pottery store.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 2, 2019 1:30:40 GMT -5
Get ready to say "who?" when talking about Lil Tecca and Ransom a few months from now. That's true; I try not to get too mad at the not very talented trap one-hit wonders since they won't stick around long enough to remember. It will not be too long before "Mo Bamba" and "Ransom" are consigned to oblivion, and no one will ever know why Lil Baby and YK Osiris were ever a thing. I mean at least Mo Bamba has the meme factor of being so weird and different, and Sheck Wes has presence behind the microphone (I actually listened to MUDBOY and it wasn't bad actually, it was pretty fun). But with Lil Tecca, Lil Baby and other trap rappers and "melodic rappers", they're middle-of-the-road mediocrity. Too many rap fans give these guys way too much credit for just having melodies.
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 2, 2019 1:31:26 GMT -5
That's true; I try not to get too mad at the not very talented trap one-hit wonders since they won't stick around long enough to remember. It will not be too long before "Mo Bamba" and "Ransom" are consigned to oblivion, and no one will ever know why Lil Baby and YK Osiris were ever a thing. Yep, I'll never understand Lil Baby's appeal. 6ix9ine and Lil Pump at least stood out from other rappers of their visible terribleness. Lil Baby, however, is bland and boring as a pottery store. Also 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are huge memes whereas Lil Baby has zero meme factor
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Post by lights on Nov 2, 2019 9:32:26 GMT -5
Seems like lose you to love me fell off pretty hard in the last couple of days of the week. We still thinking that's going to be #1?
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 2, 2019 10:44:44 GMT -5
Yep, I'll never understand Lil Baby's appeal. 6ix9ine and Lil Pump at least stood out from other rappers of their visible terribleness. Lil Baby, however, is bland and boring as a pottery store. Also 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are huge memes whereas Lil Baby has zero meme factor Agreed. I think that people will remember 6ix9ine and Lil Pump a little longer because of those memes, "Snitch Nine" in particular. But Lil Baby inexplicably has multiple hits without bringing anything to the table as a lyricist or rapper or personality, mostly thanks to collabs with Drake ("Yes Indeed") and DaBaby ("Baby"). It's quite baffling how someone so devoid of charisma or personality can manage to gain the support of other artists in order to create a career that rises out of one-hit wonderdom.
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Post by Mayman on Nov 2, 2019 10:55:22 GMT -5
Also 6ix9ine and Lil Pump are huge memes whereas Lil Baby has zero meme factor Agreed. I think that people will remember 6ix9ine and Lil Pump a little longer because of those memes, "Snitch Nine" in particular. But Lil Baby inexplicably has multiple hits without bringing anything to the table as a lyricist or rapper or personality, mostly thanks to collabs with Drake ("Yes Indeed") and DaBaby ("Baby"). It's quite baffling how someone so devoid of charisma or personality can manage to gain the support of other artists in order to create a career that rises out of one-hit wonderdom. Lmao what are you even talking about? 6ix9ine won't be remembered because of "memes"... he will be remembered for his career collapsing right before his eyes for his legal issues and everything after that. Lil Pump is virtually nonexistent in 2019, he hasn't had a hit since "I Love It" which came and went. But yes, "memes" (which most people forget about quickly because they're talking about the next one) will be the reason those two are remembered right? Lil Baby is making hit after hit after hit and is one of the biggest names in rap music right now. Why he needs to have "meme factor" (what even is that i-) is beyond me.
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Post by lazer on Nov 2, 2019 11:02:08 GMT -5
Agreed. I think that people will remember 6ix9ine and Lil Pump a little longer because of those memes, "Snitch Nine" in particular. But Lil Baby inexplicably has multiple hits without bringing anything to the table as a lyricist or rapper or personality, mostly thanks to collabs with Drake ("Yes Indeed") and DaBaby ("Baby"). It's quite baffling how someone so devoid of charisma or personality can manage to gain the support of other artists in order to create a career that rises out of one-hit wonderdom. Lmao what are you even talking about? 6ix9ine won't be remembered because of "memes"... he will be remembered for his career collapsing right before his eyes for his legal issues and everything after that. Lil Pump is virtually nonexistent in 2019, he hasn't had a hit since "I Love It" which came and went. But yes, "memes" (which most people forget about quickly because they're talking about the next one) will be the reason those two are remembered right? Lil Baby is making hit after hit after hit and is one of the biggest names in rap music right now. Why he needs to have "meme factor" (what even is that i-) is beyond me. Even ringtone rappers of the mid-late 2000s have more personality and charisma than Lil Baby. I honestly prefer Soulja Boy over Lil Baby.
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Post by narp on Nov 2, 2019 11:10:22 GMT -5
Seems like lose you to love me fell off pretty hard in the last couple of days of the week. We still thinking that's going to be #1? I think itβs still predicted to be ahead by a bit but I may be wrong.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 2, 2019 11:53:10 GMT -5
Lmao what are you even talking about? 6ix9ine won't be remembered because of "memes"... he will be remembered for his career collapsing right before his eyes for his legal issues and everything after that. Lil Pump is virtually nonexistent in 2019, he hasn't had a hit since "I Love It" which came and went. But yes, "memes" (which most people forget about quickly because they're talking about the next one) will be the reason those two are remembered right? Lil Baby is making hit after hit after hit and is one of the biggest names in rap music right now. Why he needs to have "meme factor" (what even is that i-) is beyond me. Even ringtone rappers of the mid-late 2000s have more personality and charisma than Lil Baby. I honestly prefer Soulja Boy over Lil Baby. Even 50 Cent has more personality than Lil Baby, and that's not something I say lightly.
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