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Post by king_billboard_100 on Oct 30, 2019 3:04:38 GMT -5
We got a Lalala remix with Carly Rae Jepsen and Enrique Iglesias for some f**kin reason, I could see it getting memed into oblivion so maybe lalala gets a second wind? just heard it and it sounds bad. |
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Post by Naos on Oct 30, 2019 3:07:10 GMT -5
We got a Lalala remix with Carly Rae Jepsen and Enrique Iglesias for some f**kin reason, I could see it getting memed into oblivion so maybe lalala gets a second wind? just heard it and it sounds bad. Will not tolerate the slander. |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 30, 2019 3:17:01 GMT -5
'Lalala' did not need salvaging. Because it cannot be salvaged. Not even Carly is that good. :sip2:
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Post by violentdreams on Oct 30, 2019 4:36:27 GMT -5
Lalala is a weird song for Carly to hop on. However, she is the queen therefore I am not going to question her decision making, I am merely going to stream.
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Oct 30, 2019 6:37:56 GMT -5
Lalala is a weird song for Carly to hop on. However, she is the queen therefore I am not going to question her decision making, I am merely going to stream. sorry queen of what? She only has two hits |
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Post by Zeebz on Oct 30, 2019 6:45:35 GMT -5
sorry queen of what? She only has two hits Queen of pop, critical acclaim, remixes, phones, the gays, apparently now queen of rap, etc etc  |
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Oct 30, 2019 7:29:14 GMT -5
sorry queen of what? She only has two hits Queen of pop, critical acclaim, remixes, phones, the gays, apparently now queen of rap, etc etc no queen of pop is britney |
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Oct 30, 2019 7:30:32 GMT -5
I really like Call me Maybe and Good Time but she didnt pull anything since then.
So she is not the queen of pop, do you understand?
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Post by Sambalada on Oct 30, 2019 8:00:43 GMT -5
See? This is what happens when Queen Carly charts again. People only remember her for her 2012 hits when her output since 2015 are the ones that was acclaimed and legitimately good.
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Post by tanooki on Oct 30, 2019 8:09:20 GMT -5
Yeah, if you know you know.
Carly hasn't had great chart success outside of 2012 but her outputs since have been highly praised
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Post by violentdreams on Oct 30, 2019 8:32:31 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure if you were handing the title Queen of Pop to any artist purely based off chart success and sales, that title would not go to Britney Spears. She also would not have that title in a competition of quality. Overall, Britney is just not the Queen of Pop in any metric. Toxic is a good song though.
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 30, 2019 8:45:23 GMT -5
This is pretty interesting IMO. For the first six weeks, Try Again was distinctly ahead, gaining more ground overall and entering the top 20 first. But in week seven, He Wasn't Man Enough suddenly jumped to #3 because of the physical single selling 102k on its first official week of release (mentioned in Billboard's Hot 100 Highlights for the week dated 4/29/2000). TA would not enter the top ten until three weeks later - and in that short three week climb, HWME had already peaked. When TA finally hit #1, HWME had already exited the top 10, save for one brief re-entry in their 20th week.Β TA stayed ahead of HWME for 20 of its 32 weeks on the chart. The first six weeks Toni spent in the top 10 and the final six weeks of HWME's run, when its fall accelerated, were the remaining weeks where HWME was ahead. On Hot 100 Airplay, Try Again debuted and stayed ahead of HWME for 26 straight weeks, nine of those weeks at #1, but it finally fell behind the same week it fell behind HWME on the Hot 100.Β Sales no doubt contributed to Toni's slightly higher year-end points (HWME sold 600k overall), but it is interesting that in terms of longevity she also ended up outlasting Aaliyah on the airplay chart, seemingly by virtue of just not being massively played to the extent that Try Again was at its peak. Super interesting analysis! On paper, "Try Again" looks like the bigger hit but I guess those extra sales made a huge difference because "Try Again" was a significantly bigger airplay hit Itβs also worth noting that βTry Againβ topped the Hot 100 with a mere 92M listener impressions. To this date, itβs one of the airplay number-one songs with the lowest AI total since the Soundscan era started. The Hot 100 was extremely weak during the Summer of 2000, starting from the latter half of βMaria Mariaβsβ run at number one in May and numbers didnβt really pick up until late August/early September when Janet Jacksonβs βDoesnβt Really Matterβ hit number one. |
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 30, 2019 8:47:40 GMT -5
Super interesting analysis! On paper, "Try Again" looks like the bigger hit but I guess those extra sales made a huge difference because "Try Again" was a significantly bigger airplay hit Well, Try Again was the first airplay-only #1 to occur on the Hot 100, so you/the paper stats aren't necessarily wrong that it was the bigger hit. It was inherently disadvantaged by the fact that other artists were still releasing singles for sale and I can't help but wonder how many more weeks it would have had at the top if there had been a physical single to accompany it. Five other songs reached #1 while Aaliyah was ruling on airplay, and all five of those singles had CD singles (while none of them topped airplay). The Romeo Must Die soundtrack sold a million+ with Try Again being the only notable hit from it, which is probably a pretty good indicator that TA would have sold pretty well on its own. Itβs also worth noting that βTry Againβ topped the Hot 100 with a mere 92M listener impressions. To this date, itβs the airplay number-one song with the lowest AI total since the Soundscan era started. The Hot 100 was extremely weak during the Summer of 2000, starting from the latter half of βMaria Mariaβsβ run at number one in May and didnβt really pick up until late August/early September when Janet Jacksonβs βDoesnβt Really Matterβ hit number one. Ultimately, I do believe βTry Againβ would have lasted longer at number one/on the Hot 100 had a CD single been issued. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 30, 2019 8:49:35 GMT -5
Super interesting analysis! On paper, "Try Again" looks like the bigger hit but I guess those extra sales made a huge difference because "Try Again" was a significantly bigger airplay hit Itβs also worth noting that βTry Againβ topped the Hot 100 with a mere 92M listener impressions. To this date, itβs the airplay number-one song with the lowest AI total since the Soundscan era started. The Hot 100 was extremely weak during the Summer of 2000, starting from the latter half of βMaria Mariaβsβ run at number one in May and numbers didnβt really pick up until late August/early September when Janet Jacksonβs βDoesnβt Really Matterβ hit number one. Wow, that is low. βDreamloverβ got a record in 1993 with 89 million impressions, and thatβs when R&B and other genres werenβt included! |
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Post by wavey. on Oct 30, 2019 8:56:52 GMT -5
sorry queen of what? She only has two hits Queen of pop, critical acclaim, remixes, phones, the gays, apparently now queen of rap, etc etc They sleepin on Carly. Just cause she isn't out here full mainstream, bih is pulling HEAT. |
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 30, 2019 9:03:52 GMT -5
Itβs also worth noting that βTry Againβ topped the Hot 100 with a mere 92M listener impressions. To this date, itβs the airplay number-one song with the lowest AI total since the Soundscan era started. The Hot 100 was extremely weak during the Summer of 2000, starting from the latter half of βMaria Mariaβsβ run at number one in May and numbers didnβt really pick up until late August/early September when Janet Jacksonβs βDoesnβt Really Matterβ hit number one. Wow, that is low. βDreamloverβ got a record in 1993 with 89 million impressions, and thatβs when R&B and other genres werenβt included! It is INCREDIBLY low. Hereβs the quote from the Billboard article: βAgainβ takes advantage of the current barren singles market and large jump in audience to seize the top of a soft Hot 100 chart, gaining a solid 5.5M listeners to reach a total of 92M listener impressionsβ. The article also stated/predicted that the βnext few weeks should see several songs take the top spot given the fact that no song is currently the most dominant in airplay and sales, and that βeven the heavyweight acts are either releasing too little physical units to make large jumps to number one or their airplay numbers are laggingβ. Whatβs ironic is that βDreamloverβ would have easily crossed the 100M AI mark at the time had R&B airplay been included. The first songs to do so overall would have LIKELY been Jacksonβs βBlack Or Whiteβ which peaked with 82M AI or Houstonβs βI Will Always Love Youβ which peaked with 86M AI and that was, again, without the inclusion of R&B airplay. Adamsβ βEverything I Doβ peaked with 79M AI. brady47 |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 30, 2019 9:36:55 GMT -5
To any one who doubts Our Lord and Saviour Carly Rae Jepsen, please listen to Run Away with Me, Cut to the Feeling and then listen listen to her two albums since 2012. They're a more spiritually enlightening experience than whatever Kanye's been doing.
And may the Holy Trinity of Pop Queens who Deserved Better bless you all: The Father (Carly Rae Jepsen), The Son (Lorde) and the Holy Spirit (Charli XCX). Go out in peace and spread the good word.
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Oct 30, 2019 10:18:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure if you were handing the title Queen of Pop to any artist purely based off chart success and sales, that title would not go to Britney Spears. She also would not have that title in a competition of quality. Overall, Britney is just not the Queen of Pop in any metric. Toxic is a good song though. πππππππ i am talking about queen of pop chart...... |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 30, 2019 10:19:58 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/30
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 148.74(-1.78)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - SeΓ±orita 137.42(-1.50)
3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 135.94(-0.79)
4(=) Post Malone - Circles 102.22(+1.53)
5(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 99.95(-0.48)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 95.59(+1.47)
7(=) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 94.21(+0.46)
8(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 86.90(-0.48)
9(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 84.93(-1.12)
10(=) SHAED - Trampoline 81.66(+1.65)
12(=) Lizzo - Good as Hell (feat. Ariana Grande) [Remix] 73.76(+2.61)
16(+1) Maroon 5 - Memories 61.96(+1.36) 18(=) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 57.72(+1.69)
23(+2) Russell Dickerson - Every Little Thing 52.46(+1.08) 28(=) Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 49.87(+0.74) 32(+2) Chris Brown - Heat (feat. Gunna) 40.21(+0.73) 36(+3) Thomas Rhett - Remember You Young 39.06(+0.96) 70(+11) Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 24.27(+3.06) 81(+2) Sam Hunt - Kinfolks 21.10(+0.71) -(-) Luke Bryan - What She Wants Tonight 15.37(+1.22)
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Oct 30, 2019 10:34:26 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/30
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 148.74(-1.78)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - SeΓ±orita 137.42(-1.50)
3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 135.94(-0.79)
4(=) Post Malone - Circles 102.22(+1.53)
5(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 99.95(-0.48)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 95.59(+1.47)
7(=) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 94.21(+0.46)
8(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 86.90(-0.48)
9(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 84.93(-1.12)
10(=) SHAED - Trampoline 81.66(+1.65)
12(=) Lizzo - Good as Hell (feat. Ariana Grande) [Remix] 73.76(+2.61)
16(+1) Maroon 5 - Memories 61.96(+1.36) 18(=) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 57.72(+1.69)
23(+2) Russell Dickerson - Every Little Thing 52.46(+1.08) 28(=)Β Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 49.87(+0.74) 32(+2) Chris Brown - Heat (feat. Gunna) 40.21(+0.73) 36(+3) Thomas Rhett - Remember You Young 39.06(+0.96) 70(+11) Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 24.27(+3.06) 81(+2) Sam Hunt - Kinfolks 21.10(+0.71) -(-) Luke Bryan - What She Wants Tonight 15.37(+1.22)
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Post by 13 on Oct 30, 2019 10:48:36 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/30
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 148.74(-1.78)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - SeΓ±orita 137.42(-1.50)
3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 135.94(-0.79)
4(=) Post Malone - Circles 102.22(+1.53)
5(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 99.95(-0.48)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 95.59(+1.47)
7(=) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 94.21(+0.46)
8(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 86.90(-0.48)
9(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 84.93(-1.12)
10(=) SHAED - Trampoline 81.66(+1.65)
12(=) Lizzo - Good as Hell (feat. Ariana Grande) [Remix] 73.76(+2.61)
16(+1) Maroon 5 - Memories 61.96(+1.36) 18(=) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 57.72(+1.69)
23(+2) Russell Dickerson - Every Little Thing 52.46(+1.08) 28(=)Β Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 49.87(+0.74) 32(+2) Chris Brown - Heat (feat. Gunna) 40.21(+0.73) 36(+3) Thomas Rhett - Remember You Young 39.06(+0.96) 70(+11) Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 24.27(+3.06) 81(+2) Sam Hunt - Kinfolks 21.10(+0.71) -(-) Luke Bryan - What She Wants Tonight 15.37(+1.22)
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 30, 2019 11:13:10 GMT -5
Y'know Juice WRLD is such an easy punching bag for whiny emo rap that I forgot YUNGBLUD also exists and oh my God, can we please not make YUNGBLUD a thing? I'll even take Hobo Johnson over him.
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Post by Albie on Oct 30, 2019 11:34:56 GMT -5
Not "do you understand" I'm dedd!
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Post by narp on Oct 30, 2019 11:47:34 GMT -5
Y'know Juice WRLD is such an easy punching bag for whiny emo rap that I forgot YUNGBLUD also exists and oh my God, can we please not make YUNGBLUD a thing? I'll even take Hobo Johnson over him. People donβt listen to rock music at the moment. Rock = no chart success sadly. |
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Post by renfield75 on Oct 30, 2019 11:49:48 GMT -5
Carly Rae Jepsen is like Robyn...some people only know them for their early pop chart hits and others know them more for their critically acclaimed later work. Cultivating that later fanbase is what will keep both of them from ever having to do oldies nostalgia tours playing their top ten hits.
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Post by xyz on Oct 30, 2019 12:11:55 GMT -5
LYTLM lost 200K streams (1.7M) but raises to #1 on Spotify. And #2 on AM
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Post by kacpi on Oct 30, 2019 12:27:43 GMT -5
Keeping my fingers crossed for Selena, imo it would be great if she got at least one week at #1. That would be another really strange thing happening in 2019. Also I wonder if she'll rise to #1 on Apple Music again - defeating Follow God definitely won't be easy but I think the song is able to make that happen, especially since it's still ahead of HIGHEST IN THE ROOM.
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 30, 2019 12:43:38 GMT -5
Keeping my fingers crossed for Selena, imo it would be great if she got at least one week at #1. That would be another really strange thing happening in 2019. Also I wonder if she'll rise to #1 on Apple Music again - defeating Follow God definitely won't be easy but I think the song is able to make that happen, especially since it's still ahead of HIGHEST IN THE ROOM. It's not as if 2019 hasn't been full of other strange happenings, so this would be a very 2019 thing, yes. |
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Post by lazer on Oct 30, 2019 12:44:44 GMT -5
Iβm not too huge on LYTLM but Iβm happy for Selena Gomez that sheβll most likely get her first #1 hit.
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Post by dann on Oct 30, 2019 12:45:18 GMT -5
Keeping my fingers crossed for Selena, imo it would be great if she got at least one week at #1. That would be another really strange thing happening in 2019. Also I wonder if she'll rise to #1 on Apple Music again - defeating Follow God definitely won't be easy but I think the song is able to make that happen, especially since it's still ahead of HIGHEST IN THE ROOM. Don't worry, she still has sales and YT in her favor. |
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