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Post by kingvavis on Nov 3, 2019 8:29:15 GMT -5
I think it's alot better than what we got with Vine like Nasty Freestyle or Lifestyle 🤢 Ok but "Lifestyle" is a masterpiece I would say Lifestyle is a masterpiece in the same way The Room is a masterpiece for Cinema.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Nov 3, 2019 8:45:00 GMT -5
Ok but "Lifestyle" is a masterpiece I would say Lifestyle is a masterpiece in the same way The Room is a masterpiece for Cinema. I used to think that, but now, I think it's a legitimately great song that serves as a great showcase of Young Thug's talents when it comes to his quirky and melodic rapping style that people have come to know and love from him.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 3, 2019 9:23:05 GMT -5
Looks like Hot won't get stuck in between years as the remix seems to be doing well, it's up to #6. It's growing on me so I'm happy Thugger's getting another hit.
Also the music video for 223's came out yesterday and can I just say how funny it is to have a music video featuring mostly white folks acting happy and dancing to a song about shooting and killing people from a convicted murderer who's currently awaiting trial and could be facing the death penalty?
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Post by Normi on Nov 3, 2019 9:56:48 GMT -5
^ Sounds fun!
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Post by spicymapping on Nov 3, 2019 10:28:10 GMT -5
Here's an early stab at top 25 predictions -
1. Circles 2. Someone You Loved 3. Lose You To Love Me 4. Good As Hell 5. Truth Hurts 6. Senorita 7. No Guidance 8. Highest In The Room 9. Hot 10. Memories 11. 10,000 Hours 12. Panini 13. Bad Guy 14. Ransom 15. Trampoline 16. Beautiful People 17. Bandit 18. Follow God 19. Only Human 20. On Chill 21. Ballin' 22. Old Town Road 23. I Don't Care 24. Goodbyes 25. One Man Band
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Post by lazer on Nov 3, 2019 10:37:46 GMT -5
Hot is #1 on Spotify combined.
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Post by chanman on Nov 3, 2019 11:19:13 GMT -5
@ sirskimask I have to so agree with you. This year was great, just like 2017. Last year (2018) was really dull and boring for me. I like the Lil Nas X run and number of songs that competed. I like how Billy Ray, Bastille, Panic at the Disco, Lady Gaga, Jonas and others rose back to the spotlight briefly. Would be interesting to see if anymore artists who hadn't had a top 10 hit in over 5 years, make a comeback in 2020. I don't understand what you mean about Gaga rising back to the spotlight "briefly". She's been in the spotlight since at least 2015 since the ARTPOP debacle. She's been doing Oscars Performances (Julie Andrew's Tribute, Til It Happens To You, Shallow w/Bradley Cooper), collecting numerous awards for her acting and music, she had the entire Joanne era and the Super Bowl where Million Reasons peaked at #4 and Perfect Illusion peaked at #15, then she filmed the critical darling A Star Is Born and collected her first #1 since Born This Way. Gaga is someone who will always be in the spotlight with her eras. I mean there's a reason she's collected at least one Top 4 hit from every era now. Now, she has a successful Vegas residency and is coming with LG6 next year hopefully. Hey, I so forgot about "A Million Reasons" - two years aback. The "briefly" was referring to artists who hadn't had a big top 10 hit in a while. So I will take her out of the list, you are correct. You know all this talk about Adele and Rihanna on the threads, there is room for Gaga and LG6 which should be a big album splash!!! Cant wait :sip2:
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Post by ddlz on Nov 3, 2019 11:27:22 GMT -5
There is so much wrong with what Gaga said here.
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Post by Crimsonio on Nov 3, 2019 11:35:57 GMT -5
There is so much wrong with what Gaga said here. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with what she's saying. My interpretation of it is that Spotify just pushes playlists like Today's Top Hits and RapCaviar and people listen to those because they're popular rather than alternative playlists being pushed.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 3, 2019 12:44:07 GMT -5
New Dua Lipa song might debut around 60-50 and die from there in America. Hmm...I think it may eventually reach Top 20 in the US. She'll probably perform at the AMAs and I imagine it going Top 20 on Pop. So a #1 for Selena tomorrow is pretty much confirmed huh? I must admit, I never saw this coming. Especially with a piano ballad. Happy for her.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 12:50:55 GMT -5
Not relevant for this week, but AIFCIY is already top 200 on AM.
Really hope it goes #1 this year.
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Post by 85la on Nov 3, 2019 16:45:34 GMT -5
There is so much wrong with what Gaga said here. What did she say exactly? Is this a statement from her herself? I'm having trouble knowing what to make of this.
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 3, 2019 18:22:51 GMT -5
Circles is definitely going #1 next week, it's gonna be in the Top 4 in every major category Gomez is dropping massively in sales and streams (Post will be above her on Spotify by Monday) and Circles' radio lead is too massive 4 #1s in two years King Posty! Hope it stays there for multiple weeks too
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 3, 2019 18:25:48 GMT -5
There is so much wrong with what Gaga said here. Funny how she didn't have anything to say early this decade when bubblegum pop was dominating the music industry. NOW she has a problem with the music that's popular and wants more variety, lmao.
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Post by NeRD on Nov 3, 2019 19:00:16 GMT -5
There is so much wrong with what Gaga said here. Funny how she didn't have anything to say early this decade when bubblegum pop was dominating the music industry. NOW she has a problem with the music that's popular and wants more variety, lmao. Hypocritical as hell. We been knew.
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Post by Choco on Nov 3, 2019 19:26:54 GMT -5
Not sure of what she said but early on this decade there were no spotify playlists.
The way a small group of Spotify employees can influence charts is kinda scary tbh. All it takes is the correct playlist placements and you have a hit. There was no equivalent tactic on iTunes. The best comparisons were promo banners (which also exist on Spotify) and discounts which still meant people had to actively search and pay for the song.
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Post by moonlite on Nov 3, 2019 20:12:14 GMT -5
If Circles goes #1 this week, that would make 5 straight weeks with a completely different song at #1.
The last time that happened was at the end of 2010 when we had 6 weeks in a row with a completely different song at #1 (We R Who We R, What's My Name, Like a G6, Only Girl, Raise Your Glass and Firework). Before THAT, the last that this happened was all the way back in 1990 when 8 completely different songs hit #1. So yea, interestingly rare feat.
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Post by dann on Nov 3, 2019 20:22:43 GMT -5
If Circles goes #1 this week, that would make 5 straight weeks with a completely different song at #1. The last time that happened was at the end of 2010 when we had 6 weeks in a row with a completely different song at #1 (We R Who We R, What's My Name, Like a G6, Only Girl, Raise Your Glass and Firework). Before THAT, the last that this happened was all the way back in 1990 when 8 completely different songs hit #1. So yea, interestingly rare feat. So many interesting things happening in 2019 and there are still people who think it was a boring year.
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Post by narp on Nov 3, 2019 20:33:31 GMT -5
Circles is definitely going #1 next week, it's gonna be in the Top 4 in every major category Gomez is dropping massively in sales and streams (Post will be above her on Spotify by Monday) and Circles' radio lead is too massive 4 #1s in two years King Posty! Hope it stays there for multiple weeks too I can see it considering the charts look really weak right now. I only really see Good as Hell going to number one after Circles.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 3, 2019 21:14:04 GMT -5
Not sure of what she said but early on this decade there were no spotify playlists. The way a small group of Spotify employees can influence charts is kinda scary tbh. All it takes is the correct playlist placements and you have a hit. There was no equivalent tactic on iTunes. The best comparisons were promo banners (which also exist on Spotify) and discounts which still meant people had to actively search and pay for the song. Playlists are just that - playlists. At most, they give you more visibility, but that's it. People make it seem like songs automatically get plays once they get added to the biggest playlists and that isn't true. People still have to listen to the song and in most cases, if a song gets playlisted, but doesn't get enough engagement, it gets pushed further and further down the playlist till it eventually gets taken off it. Just like iTunes banners didn't automatically equate to massive digital sales, playlists don't automatically equate to high streaming figures.
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Post by whales10268 on Nov 3, 2019 21:21:18 GMT -5
Not sure of what she said but early on this decade there were no spotify playlists. The way a small group of Spotify employees can influence charts is kinda scary tbh. All it takes is the correct playlist placements and you have a hit. There was no equivalent tactic on iTunes. The best comparisons were promo banners (which also exist on Spotify) and discounts which still meant people had to actively search and pay for the song. Playlists are just that - playlists. At most, they give you more visibility, but that's it. People make it seem like songs automatically get plays once they get added to the biggest playlists and that isn't true. People still have to listen to the song and in most cases, if a song gets playlisted, but doesn't get enough engagement, it gets pushed further and further down the playlist till it eventually gets taken off it. Just like iTunes banners didn't automatically equate to massive digital sales, playlists don't automatically equate to high streaming figures. So many people just put on TTH and don’t pay attention. It definitely has a far bigger impact than a banner. Banners don’t auto play.
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Post by moonlite on Nov 3, 2019 21:40:27 GMT -5
Roxanne is now - somehow - #4 on AM. Also just hit top 30 on the life support ridden iTunes
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Post by bbfan97 on Nov 3, 2019 23:30:45 GMT -5
I hope Roxanne gets to #1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 1:01:31 GMT -5
Not sure of what she said but early on this decade there were no spotify playlists. The way a small group of Spotify employees can influence charts is kinda scary tbh. All it takes is the correct playlist placements and you have a hit. There was no equivalent tactic on iTunes. The best comparisons were promo banners (which also exist on Spotify) and discounts which still meant people had to actively search and pay for the song. Gaga was performing and in between songs she started talking about streaming - “I wish we could listen to all different genres of music all at the same time....and it’s not just that one playlist where we’re fed and told what to hear. There was a time when there was Pop, Dance, Rock N’ Roll, Country, everything all out there. Everything all out there. I really wish that for the world. I love streaming, I just want more variety. ” She name-checked every genre except hip-hop and r&b (aka the most dominant genre in streaming and the genre that incorrectly gets lumped in with the most dominant genre like a package deal) so some people immediately read it a certain way. I saw the video this morning and less than an hour later the tweet was deleted. The guy who posted it is a Gaga stan and I guess his feed turned negative pretty quickly, bc he has another tweet (still up) saying "I have been a little monster since the very beginning and I’ve noticed a trend. Every single time Lady Gaga is on top of her career the other fan basis [sic] will literally attempt to do anything to bring her down, including spinning her words. It’s not a cute look." But it also wasn't a cute statement, so. She probably didn't mean any real harm by it, but it was a very shortsighted comment. Streaming providers can't make people be more active streamers/music consumers. Urban music fans as a whole seem to listen to music more frequently than fans of other genres, and if the Billboard 200 is any indication they hold on to songs/albums longer too. So if people want more 'diversity' in streaming then they need to...stream more. And I mean actually stream their favorite songs and albums, not just play the first 10 songs on TTH or Pop Rising (listens per song dwindle considerably the further down the list you go) or give a new album some streams the first month before moving on to whatever grabs their attention span next. In this sense it is ironic that people are bringing up how problematic playlists are - I don't disagree necessarily, but playlists are how pop artists have to game the system, otherwise they can't really get a leg up. Gaga would be one of the main artists to benefit from the current system if she were still at Fame/BTW levels. Hip-hop has its own playlists, but likely doesn't need them nearly as much, if at all, to thrive.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 4, 2019 1:58:46 GMT -5
In terms of years of mainstream music this decade, 2016 and 2018 are pretty much bottom of the barrel: they're basically both boring filler years but 2018 has a small edge in being a little more mildly interesting? Like there are more good songs on 2018 than 2016, it's easier to make a best hit songs lists in my opinion
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 4, 2019 2:06:39 GMT -5
I don't have much to comment about this Gaga thing (even if I am a stan) because she was clearly just chatting in the middle of a concert, it's not a proper statement etc but obviously she's versatile musically by heart and loves to do everything and the streaming platforms being more open to different genres would benefit her.
Shallow didn't need much of playlists though, I don't think it was never on top of any playlist and there it is approaching 1 billion streams on Spotify. So great songs will do very well even though they might not ever top the charts. Good example is 1950 by King Princess which has 300 million listens on Spotify but hasn't reached Hot 100.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 2:40:15 GMT -5
As far as the charts go 2017 is easily the worst year, but there where great albums that came out that year
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 4, 2019 3:47:00 GMT -5
As far as the charts go 2017 is easily the worst year, but there where great albums that came out that year Why was it the worst?
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Post by kimberly on Nov 4, 2019 4:49:35 GMT -5
Not relevant for this week, but AIFCIY is already top 200 on AM. Really hope it goes #1 this year. I really hope so, too. From what I recall, it gets an annual boost right after Halloween but slows down before picking back up around Thanksgiving. I don't see any song currently on the charts blocking it from #1 come December 25.
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Post by whales10268 on Nov 4, 2019 7:13:52 GMT -5
Mariah should hit number one as long as Adele doesn’t release. I don’t see any song as strong as thank u next blocking it like last year.
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